Trump ‘voter fraud’ lies – a beard for a national crackdown?
It all started Monday, with what even the usually-restrained New York Times called a “lie“:
During a private meeting with congressional leaders on Monday, President Trump asserted that between three million and five million unauthorized immigrants had voted for his Democratic opponent and robbed him of a victory in the national popular vote.
There is no evidence to support the claim, which has been discredited repeatedly by numerous fact-checkers.That did not stop Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, from standing by the president’s words on Tuesday during a briefing with reporters at the White House. “As I said, I think the president has believed that for a while based on studies and information he has,” Mr. Spicer said.
It’s starting to look like Trump is using a lie to drive for nothing less than a national voter purge targeting anyone to his left:
[H]e will ask for a “major investigation” into “VOTER FRAUD” (his capitalizations) to determine whether his administration needs to “strengthen up voting procedures,” he announced on Twitter through a series of tweets early Wednesday morning.
I will be asking for a major investigation into VOTER FRAUD, including those registered to vote in two states, those who are illegal and….
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 25, 2017
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/824228768227217408
Wesley Lowery points out the obvious:
Trump didn't say, for ex, "ppl who voted in 2 states" or "dead ppl who voted" – he said to target names ~registered~ twice/dead registered
— Wesley Lowery (@WesleyLowery) January 25, 2017
Outdated voter registrations, which appear to make up the scope of the investigation, are a common occurrence, but they in no way prove any voter fraud resulted. Out of date registration records occur because people move, or passed away. For some, this announced investigation was just a “false flag” from Republicans who are hoping to suppress the vote.
There are already solutions to all of the issues Trump is ginning up. For example, Oregon has instituted voting by mail, which can be a very effective way to track and remove out-of-date registrations.
The problem for the hard right is that these solutions nurture more voting.
The solution? Democrats and liberals should steal the issue of outdated voter rolls and promote solutions that increase registration and participation.
‘Nuff said.
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15 responses to Trump ‘voter fraud’ lies – a beard for a national crackdown?
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Red Eye Robot January 25th, 2017 at 13:37
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379414000973
oldfart January 25th, 2017 at 13:45
NO clicks for you…
arc99 January 25th, 2017 at 14:51
It links to a study done by professors at Old Dominion University in 2014. There is a Washington Post article behind a pay wall about the study.
The Post follow up article also notes that the study was flatly contradicted by subsequent peer reviewed studies.
RJ over at freakoutnation provided the same study as “proof” of illegal voting.
Here is a link to the discussion at freakoutnation if you are interested.
https://disqus.com/home/discussion/freakoutnation/trump_continues_repeating_debunked_claim_3_million_voted_illegally_for_clinton/#comment-3118163177
Hirightnow January 25th, 2017 at 14:50
Getting tired of your sh*t…why not link to Quora, Andy?
arc99 January 25th, 2017 at 14:52
according to the peer reviewed analysis of the study that YOU cite.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2014/10/24/could-non-citizens-decide-the-november-election/?utm_term=.873524363c6d
Note: The post occasioned three rebuttals (here, here, and here) as well as a response from the authors. Subsequently, another peer-reviewed article argued that the findings reported in this post (and affiliated article) were biased and that the authors’ data do not provide evidence of non-citizen voting in U.S. elections.
William January 25th, 2017 at 14:54
He won’t respond. He’s a hit and run troll without the courage to engage anyone, especially if facts are involved.
Obewon January 25th, 2017 at 19:35
Kellyanne Edgar Hoover Conway: ‘Bannon’s Double voting is double-plus good!’ We now return you to the alternative reality Ameriklans are now stuck in. http://www.alan.com/2017/01/25/white-house-voter-fraud-steve-bannon-registered-to-vote-in-2-states/
Buford2k11 January 25th, 2017 at 14:03
Colorado is still working the kinks out of our MIB…but overall it worked great…
Suzanne McFly January 25th, 2017 at 17:12
I hope that goes nationwide.
William January 25th, 2017 at 15:06
Has it occurred to anyone else that the Tangerine-clown simply utters outrageous bullsh*t to distract from the stuff that can impeach him? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2bdff199af867070854773190f063afcb361f96df146d4a399ee959403178c81.jpg
libpatriot January 25th, 2017 at 15:51
I think that’s EXACTLY it, William: he’s trying to distract the people and the media from what he’s doing in the meanwhile.
William January 26th, 2017 at 10:53
Each day his bullsh*t mountain gets higher. The tactic of using something more crazy today to distract from yesterdays story will run out at some point.
Larry Schmitt January 25th, 2017 at 18:37
“…I think the president has believed that for a while…” So now merely believing something for a while makes it true? Kids believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny, but that don’t make them real. Though on second thought, they are both more real than trump.
labman57 January 25th, 2017 at 19:00
The evidence is as follows:
Clinton earned more votes than Trump. Ergo, massive fraud occurred.
Donnie says so, and Sean concurs …. so it must be true.
Trump should just cut to the chase and sign an Executive Order declaring that only registered Republicans are eligible to vote in federal elections.
Because when you get to the core of the GOP’s true motivations, that what all of this massive voter fraud nonsense and continuing calls for Voter ID legislation is really about.
The Original Just Me January 25th, 2017 at 21:21
trump should know all about Voter Fraud. Everyone that has been caught was a Republican/Trump supporter.