Trump: ‘I believe in free speech but [flag burning] is a special case
Which is why it needs to be protected, Mr. Trump.
Click here for reuse options!…Trump today again brought up his issues with flag-burning and why he’s not particularly convinced by the free speech argument.
He continued, “You can say what you want––free speech, it’s all wonderful, I’m a big believer in free speech––but maybe we’re gonna be putting something in to see if we can do something about it, because this is a special case.”
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17 responses to Trump: ‘I believe in free speech but [flag burning] is a special case
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Larry Schmitt December 9th, 2016 at 18:08
He’s right. It’s so special, the Supreme Court already decided it’s protected speech. So you can go f*ck yourself too, trump.
amersham1046 December 9th, 2016 at 18:12
How many other ‘special cases’ will there be
Robert M. Snyder December 9th, 2016 at 20:34
I don’t know. Is it okay to burn the Rainbow flag? Is it okay to put a cartoon of the Prophet Mohammed along a busy highway? Or are these special cases?
Obewon December 9th, 2016 at 20:41
We know. You just can’t wait until your tiny hands Führer tanks USA!
Q3-16 U.S. Record $18.65 T current dollar GDP grew +4.4%.
Unem 4.4%. Hei’ll crater America in 10 months, just as Bush Jr did.
Robert M. Snyder December 9th, 2016 at 22:04
Dude. What are you talking about? You’re a tech-savvy kind of guy, and my Disqus profile is completely public. Please find one post in which I said anything good about Trump. Take your time. I’ll wait.
Obewon December 9th, 2016 at 22:48
Snyder posted ‘I’m proud of my state (PA) for doing the right thing’-After the November 8th election.
Snyder also posts ‘I can’t wait until Obama is out of office.’-Nov 2016. It’s obvious why DT is the least popular PEOTUS. Even Robert Snyder throws him under the bus already.
Robert M. Snyder December 9th, 2016 at 22:55
Hah! I forgot about those. But I didn’t actually praise Trump, did I? The only thing you can fairly conclude is that I like Obama and Clinton LESS than Trump.
And in all fairness, didn’t you also come across a few unflattering comments about Trump made by me prior to the election?
oldfart December 10th, 2016 at 00:17
Oops.
That okay bob, only Herr tRumpster is perfect.
Just ask him, he’ll tell you so. /s
It’s gonna be sooooo great… /s
bpollen December 11th, 2016 at 01:26
Can you say the “n-word?” Yes. Should you? Probably not. But, the VERY FIRST AMENDMENT, the VERY FIRST thing the founding fathers felt needed to be added to the Constitution, says you have that right.
There is one whole HELL of a lot of difference between not engaging in speech that might offend and NOT BEING ALLOWED TO. To equate them is sophism. Like saying there is no difference between dieting and BEING DENIED FOOD. Like badmouthing journalists is just like KILLING THEM, right?
Robert M. Snyder December 11th, 2016 at 02:06
I think we are both in agreement with the Supreme Court, but it concerns me that a lot of college campuses are punishing students for so-called “hate speech”. Suppose a student publically burned a Rainbow flag on the UC Berkeley campus. Would the administration defend the student’s right to free speech, or would they seek to punish or expel her? The original question was about exceptions. I suspect that the Rainbow flag is such an exception. I suspect that burning the US flag or a Bible is okay on just about every campus, but burning the Rainbow flag or a Koran is NOT okay. I don’t like double standards. If we really believe in the first amendment, then there should not be exceptions for certain groups.
bpollen December 11th, 2016 at 16:10
Please, show me examples of this punishment for “hate crimes” that aren’t hate crimes. I’m not aware of this epidemic of bogus hate crimes on campus. When did this happen, where, to who, for what? Vague statements about “a lot of college campuses” really isn’t something I can address UNLESS I HAVE EXAMPLES.
And as far as what you “suspect” they, as opposed to you, think is inappropriate, that’s neither here nor there. Your opinion is your opinion, and in no way does it substitute for reality. “A lot of college campuses” is a pretty friggin’ broad brush, so somewhere in there you should be able to provide a SLEW of examples if true. I don’t believe it is. I think you made it up.
Robert M. Snyder December 11th, 2016 at 16:30
Here are two articles from FIRE and the ACLU that may help you to become better informed about this issue:
“FIRE (Foundation for Individual Rights in Education) surveyed 440 schools for this report and found that 49.3 percent maintain severely restrictive, “red light” speech codes—policies that clearly and substantially prohibit protected speech. Moreover, despite the dramatic reduction in speech codes over the past eight years, FIRE continues to find an unacceptable number of universities punishing students and faculty members for constitutionally protected speech and expression.”
https://www.thefire.org/spotlight-on-speech-codes-2016/
“Many universities, under pressure to respond to the concerns of those who are the objects of hate, have adopted codes or policies prohibiting speech that offends any group based on race, gender, ethnicity, religion or sexual orientation. That’s the wrong response, well-meaning or not. The First Amendment to the United States Constitution protects speech no matter how offensive its content. Speech codes adopted by government-financed state colleges and universities amount to government censorship, in violation of the Constitution. And the ACLU believes that all campuses should adhere to First Amendment principles because academic freedom is a bedrock of education in a free society.”
https://www.aclu.org/other/hate-speech-campus
bpollen December 11th, 2016 at 17:21
Well, thank you so much for answering my call for examples by providing me with MORE vague statements.
You know, the vast majority of employers have non-discrimination policies. Do people work at colleges and universities? Are colleges and universities supposed to provide as safe an environment as they can for their students? Usually, institutes of higher learning are down with the free exchange of ideas. Is a cross-burning a free exchange of ideas? Or is it intimidation and/or psychological warfare? Was the abuse heaped on the Little Rock Nine for the crime of going to school under federal court order a free exchange of ideas? Was it supportive of academic freedom?
Colleges have to try to walk a tightrope – you have to balance the protection of your students with that free exchange of ideas. Is there ever any over-reaction? Only when there are humans involved. And that is one thing you can be pretty sure of in reference to universities – there are PEOPLE involved.
Suzanne McFly December 9th, 2016 at 22:07
Well that is rumps golden ticket. Every time I see political commentators talking about the antics being conducted by the rump team, they have the same response every single time “well rump is new to politics and he doesn’t know how things work so we may as well get used to it”. I say BS, when has anyone else ever started a new job and was allowed to eff up daily but get away with it because we were new?
Tommie December 9th, 2016 at 23:20
Hope that applies to all races of people and not a “special” group!
Willys41 December 10th, 2016 at 21:18
People should start burning blonde hair pieces.
bpollen December 11th, 2016 at 01:19
When he wants your opinion, he’ll give it to you.