Jim Bob Duggar Claimed ‘A Lot Of Families…Had Similar Things’ Happen
This raises the questions of whether more families than acknowledged have molestation issues among siblings and/or whether this is more of an issue among fundamentalist families.
As the Duggars explained why they didn’t seek professional help for teenaged son Josh after he admitted to molesting five young girls – four of them his sisters, including one who was reportedly only 5 at the time — they said they reached out to their church and friends for advice.
That was when Jim Bob offhandedly mentioned the feedback he received from other parents –presumably from within their inner circle — as they attempted to keep the potential scandal under wraps.
“It was a very difficult situation,” Jim Bob explained. “But as we talked to other parents and different ones since then, a lot of families have said that they have had similar things that happened in their families.”
According to John V. Caffaro, a professor at the California School of Professional Psychology, Los Angeles and author of Sibling Abuse Trauma, sibling sexual abuse is more common than people believe, saying it is almost at epidemic levels.
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donnabella77 June 7th, 2015 at 21:03
Regardless of how hard they try to normalize pedophilia, it’s not going to happen. Molestation for the victims brings a lifetime of psychological issues.
Robert M. Snyder June 8th, 2015 at 13:23
Do you know what else causes a lifetime of psychological issues for children?
Divorce.
Some marriages are truly bad, and divorce is the best option for everyone. But far too often, parents of young children walk away from reasonably good marriages. The children think everything is okay, and then one day them come home from school to discover that mommy or daddy is gone. This is devastating to the children, because they never saw it coming.
Millions of young divorce victims (i.e. children) suffer every day. But nobody seems to notice, because divorce has been normalized.
If two people with no children, or grown children, decide to end a marriage, I have no problem with that. But I have personally known parents of young children who have walked away from good marriages because they were bored (and they said so). I have seen some of the pain and harm that this causes children, and I detest it.
Larry Schmitt June 8th, 2015 at 14:22
So you would rather they stayed together and put the children through a different type of suffering? And what does that have to do with pedophilia?
Robert M. Snyder June 8th, 2015 at 14:45
Did you read what I wrote? I am talking about people who, by their own admission, left a decent relationship because they were bored. They put their own need for something new ahead of their children’s needs.
Pedophilia hurts children. Divorce and abandonment hurt far more children. Pedophilia is shameful. Divorce is more shameful.
Larry Schmitt June 8th, 2015 at 15:03
Divorce is worse than pedophilia? Wow. I don’t know what to say to that.
Robert M. Snyder June 8th, 2015 at 15:31
Ask a child psychologist which causes more harm: a 14-yr old brother fondling his sister on one or two occasions, or a parent who abandons the family because they are looking for “fulfillment”. It’s not even close. Abandonment hurts kids, whether through divorce or simply not being there in the first place (i.e. fatherlessness).
A child can understand why a parent was taken from them by a fatal disease or by a car accident. But when a parent abandons them by choice, it is devastating. The fact that I have to point this out just shows how “normal” divorce and fatherlessness have become. Kids are hurt deeply by these things. Ask any kid whether they would rather have their older brother fondle them for a few minutes or one of their parents abandon them forever. I’m pretty sure most kids would find the thought of abandonment infinitely worse.
Having said that, I recognize that there are some truly bad marriages where the kids might want the parents to separate. I’m not talking about truly dysfunctional marriages. I’m talking about the ones I have witnessed where one partner admits that there were no major problems in the marriage, but they left anyway because they wanted something different.
tracey marie June 8th, 2015 at 15:58
still protecting pedophilia, incest and sexual assault, yuck.
Robert M. Snyder June 8th, 2015 at 16:13
Not in the least. Just wondering why liberals like yourself, who claim to care about children, never seem to notice the massive harm being done to children by pig-headed parents who put their own self-indulgent need for fun and excitement ahead of their children’s needs. It’s not what you’re saying that bugs me. It’s what you (liberals) are NOT saying. Same-sex marriage and same-sex adoption are fine with me. I can get used to a lot of new things. But I will NEVER get used to people hurting children, and nothing hurts them more than parental neglect.
tracey marie June 8th, 2015 at 16:18
pedophilia, incest and sexual assault are always protected and excused by your kind, you deflect and then whine.
Robert M. Snyder June 8th, 2015 at 16:39
My kind? I see the primitive tribal instinct is strong in you.
I’ll let my words speak for themselves. Any fair-minded reader would see that I am not defending pedophilia, but advocating for parental responsibility.
cecilia June 8th, 2015 at 21:18
just admit he’s an idiot
whatthe46 June 8th, 2015 at 21:30
hell why don’t he just go all out and say divorce is worst than hanging in there while the mother gets her ass kicked on a daily basis.
whatthe46 June 8th, 2015 at 21:32
hell why don’t he just go all out and say divorce is worst than hanging in there while the mother gets her ass kicked on a daily basis..
tracey marie June 8th, 2015 at 15:38
divorce is not the same. But going with your stupidity, let’s make pedophilia normal just like divorce.
Robert M. Snyder June 8th, 2015 at 15:43
I’ve got a better idea. Let’s make walking away from obligations to children as shameful as pedophilia.
tracey marie June 8th, 2015 at 15:52
rotflmao, except you deflected and protected a pedophile.
cecilia June 8th, 2015 at 21:17
I’ve got a better idea. How about you mind your own damn business
Robert M. Snyder June 8th, 2015 at 21:35
Why do you have so little regard for the welfare of children who suffer when parents fail to fulfill their obligations?
cecilia June 8th, 2015 at 21:52
since I was raised by a family that thought about MY welfare (and my brother’s) and MY future, I have a much better idea of good parenting than you ever will imagine.
divorce is not the problem.
the worse thing you can do to your child is be totally UNPREPARED to be a parent.
You DON’T jump into it because your private parts are desperate to mate
You DON’T do it because you want some little bundle to love YOU.
You DON’T do it because some ancient fairy tale tells you to procreate until you run out of eggs
No, you become a parent because you want to GIVE a child the love, PERSONAL attention, education, RESPECT, privacy, space, and all the tools THEY need to make their own lives the creative wonder it’s supposed to be.
and you can do all that – even if there’s a divorce – because staying together in the same house isn’t some magic formula. THAT isn’t the important ingredient in parenting.
If you don’t understand that please don’t spawn
Robert M. Snyder June 8th, 2015 at 22:50
I heartily agree with everything you wrote. I know divorced couples who love their young children very much and who do a pretty good job of parenting. And I know that some of those divorces are for the best.
But the fact remains that most divorce results from the selfishness of one or both partners and a lack of concern for the welfare of the children. And in those cases, the children suffer because they feel a sense of betrayal.
My wife and I will be celebrating our thirtieth anniversary in August and we have two grown children. We have witnessed numerous cases in which children we knew have suffered because mommy or daddy got bored with the whole marriage/family thing and just wanted to be single and free again, or had an affair because they craved the attention that their too-tired wife couldn’t muster at the end of a long day.
These people ignored their obligations to their children (and spouses) and put their own needs first.
If two people without children want to split up, that’s fine with me and I agree it’s none of my business. But when someone is raising children and they find it tiresome or boring, they need to deal with it in ways that do not harm the children. I always told my kids to never have sex with someone they would not want to marry, because no birth control is 100% effective and every kid deserves to be tucked into bed by two parents.
Kids can understand when a fatal disease or an accident take one parent away. But when one parent simply loses interest in the child and walks away, that is devastating to the child.
Imagine a 12 year old boy talking with his buddy at school. He asks his friend “What are you doing this weekend?”, and the friend replies “My dad’s taking me fishing. Then we’re going to help my mom paint the living room. What are you doing?”. Answer: “My mom’s working all weekend at the convenience store. I’m staying at my grandma’s house again. She’s nice and all, but there’s nothing to do. When mom gets home, she never wants to do anything because she’s too tired.”.
Every time that boy hears about his friend’s weekends, it hurts.
cecilia June 8th, 2015 at 23:18
again, you’re missing the point.
NO ONE should get married just because they can.
marriage should actually be more unusual than it is. No one should just assume they will get married. It shouldn’t be as common as breathing.
way too many morons are getting married because they are too stupid to do anything else and then they make ANOTHER horrible mistake and make children who deserve better than these idiots for parents.
People should plan for children the exact same way athletes prepare for their Olympic events. They should train physically and make their bodies healthy. They should train their minds and get educated.
I’m not kidding.
I think they should have to pass tests before having children.
having kids should NOT be like whelping pups.
Adults who take raising children as a CAREER (and not a hobby) will be way more serious about it. If there are divorces it won’t be for frivolous reasons and the effect on children will be minimal.
If I ruled the world this is how I’d do it
Robert M. Snyder June 8th, 2015 at 23:40
“I think they should have to pass tests before having children.”
Evolution had other plans. We are descended from distant ancestors who were very successful at procreating because they were very horny and very fertile. We can’t change our genes. We can only change our culture, but it seems to be changing for the worse in some ways.
The percentage of children growing up in single-parent households continues to rise. Take Baltimore for example. In 1970, about one in three children grew up in single-parent households. Today it is about two in three. In the vast majority of cases, that single parent is a woman, and in many cases she is working long hours for low pay while her mother watches the kids. Raising her wages would help, but let’s not kid ourselves. Unless someone is wealthy, it takes two people to support and raise a family.
Kids don’t just need material things. They need their parents’ love. They need parents who would rather spend time with their kids than sit in a bar.
My son’s best friend in high school was raised by his single mom. His father wanted absolutely nothing to do with him or his mom. Fortunately he had a few uncles who took him hunting, camping, etc. One day he drove to his dad’s house and introduced himself. He was hoping to establish some kind of connection. The man told him to get lost. He was devastated.
Guys like that are jerks, and their kids really suffer. It makes me soooo mad. I am in no way defending what Josh Duggar did. But what these deadbeat dads do is far, far worse.
Evolution has programmed males to spread their seed far and wide. Only culture can teach them how to be responsible. Cultural forces include sticks and carrots. We can reward good behavior. We can also shame bad behavior. At least let’s stop making excuses for it.
cecilia June 9th, 2015 at 09:24
Evolution makes no “plans”.
Humans did evolves with large brains….and while some of us don’t use their brains, others do.
When I was young (and supposedly full of hormones) I used MY intellect to realize there is a population problem on this planet. I decided not to have children.
I am not a slave to my body or my biological heritage. Anyone who IS should feel a bit of shame.
The population since I was a child has doubled – come on, people, get your act together.
Robert M. Snyder June 9th, 2015 at 10:09
“The population since I was a child has doubled – come on, people, get your act together.”
The world is getting its act together. This video by the GapMinder Foundation explains how.
http://www.gapminder.org/videos/dont-panic-the-facts-about-population/
Robert M. Snyder June 9th, 2015 at 11:20
“I used MY intellect to realize there is a population problem on this planet. I decided not to have children. I am not a slave to my body or my biological heritage.”
Biological urges such as the urge to have sex & reproduce are not necessarily evil, and intellect will only get you so far. You can try to work with nature, or try to work against it.
Did you know that breast cancer risk decreases by 7% with each live birth, and overall, women who have had children have a 30% lower breast cancer risk than nulliparous women?
I’m not criticizing your decision. It was probably the right choice for you. But it’s not necessarily the right choice for everyone.
Source:
http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics/statistics-by-cancer-type/breast-cancer/risk-factors#heading-Seven
Click on Reproductive Factors: Lower Parity
whatthe46 June 7th, 2015 at 21:16
these people are so twisted. see, it’s ok, cause we’re not alone. how many are too many for it NOT to be ok? more than 10. as far as we know, 5 is all they are willing to cop to.
granpa.usthai June 7th, 2015 at 22:55
-and nobody wanted to report it in a timely manner?
WTF!?!
whatthe46 June 7th, 2015 at 23:27
soemthing is really wrong with these people. fk their family values. mines are better.
Obewon June 7th, 2015 at 23:15
Jim Bob Duggar said ‘A lot of Conservative families…had similar hillbilly Incest child molester felonies’ happen. It’s their hillbilly way!
tracey marie June 7th, 2015 at 23:18
Disgusting piece of lying trash.
CandideThirtythree June 7th, 2015 at 23:44
That sh*t didn’t happen in my family!! I don’t ever recall anyone ever saying that happened in their family!!
My mother didn’t make me raise my brother and I didn’t make my daughter raise her brother. And we went to school so we were not isolated, we got to interact with other kids like normal people.
Those people sound like the Donner Party, isolation makes people go insane!
fahvel June 8th, 2015 at 02:21
perfectly said!!!!!!!!!!!! there is a disease, a true maladie, resting in the guts of fanatic predatory types like these dugger things.
rg9rts June 9th, 2015 at 05:16
Did you get it??ABP
Gindy51 June 8th, 2015 at 06:49
True in my family as well but then again neither of our mothers were a functioning brood mare. They had brains and they used them to think for themselves rather than let some egotistical moron do it for them.
CandideThirtythree June 8th, 2015 at 10:18
true
cecilia June 8th, 2015 at 21:14
damn straight!
MY mother has a graduate degree, can speak AND teach at least six languages – and I mean she took TESTS to qualify to teach them so she knows them extensively. She also taught many other subjects because she’s JUST that smart….
Here’s the secret to having smart kids: have an effing brilliant mother
damn, I’m lucky
(ps, mom had TWO kids…that’s plenty )
rg9rts June 9th, 2015 at 05:16
And they eat their young…~~~(^.,.^)
CandideThirtythree June 9th, 2015 at 05:46
LOL
Suzanne McFly June 8th, 2015 at 06:13
Birds of a feather. Seems like his fellow parishioners have too much in common, glad the Church I grew up in wasn’t like that. The world was bad enough for us to deal with, the Church is always a place where I felt comfort, safety and solace when needed.
Warman1138 June 8th, 2015 at 06:16
Birds of a feather…..
Gindy51 June 8th, 2015 at 06:48
To use an analogy my mother did back in the day…. just because everyone else jumps off a bridge doesn’t mean you should too. Stupid fucking idiots.
Larry Schmitt June 8th, 2015 at 08:54
In my family the cliché was the Empire State Building.
Larry Schmitt June 8th, 2015 at 09:41
“…a lot of families have said that they have had similar things that happened in their families.” Maybe it’s a common occurrence among ultra right wing “Christian” families, but I don’t think it is with most families.
allison1050 June 8th, 2015 at 21:37
There ya go!
cecilia June 8th, 2015 at 21:11
this is common is wacko, lunatic families.
crap like this doesn’t happen in MY family
sheesh!
whatthe46 June 8th, 2015 at 21:24
in their fake ass religion it is common.
rg9rts June 9th, 2015 at 05:14
Did you get it??
whatthe46 June 9th, 2015 at 09:48
???
rg9rts June 9th, 2015 at 05:12
Like everyone has a son that Duggared 5 little girls