Of Course President Obama Was Bullshitting On Gay Marriage, Or We Wouldn’t Have Any
“I’m just not very good at bullshitting,” Obama told Axelrod, after an event where he stated his opposition to same-sex marriage, according to the book.
…“Opposition to gay marriage was particularly strong in the black church, and as he ran for higher office, he grudgingly accepted the counsel of more pragmatic folks like me, and modified his position to support civil unions rather than marriage, which he would term a ‘sacred union,’”
“…Yet if Obama’s views were “evolving” publicly, they were fully evolved behind closed doors. The president was champing at the bit to announce his support for the right of gay and lesbian couples to wed—and having watched him struggle with this issue for years, I was ready, too.”
As we all know now, the president eventually did come out in favor of legalizing gay marriage, but only after Vice President Joe Biden kind of let the horse out of the barn, and too long after his declaration that his views were “evolving” on the subject. In that historic ABC News interview, the president went a long way toward explaining himself, telling Robin Roberts, “I have always been adamant that gay and lesbian Americans should be treated fairly and equally,” listing a series of his administration’s accomplishments.
He said he “hesitated” on gay marriage because…READ MORE
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John Tarter February 10th, 2015 at 13:27
And we can also add that he was lying about his Christian faith. At a forum with Pastor Rick Warren in 2008 Obama said this: political beliefs, Obama declared: “I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian–for me–for me as a Christian, it is also a sacred union. God’s in the mix.”
Hirightnow February 10th, 2015 at 13:55
Tell the class again where Jesus mentions homosexuality, Johnny?
John Tarter February 11th, 2015 at 10:13
Let’s see, he talks about one man having one wife and what God has brought together should not be torn asunder. Since we know that marriage at that time was only between a male and a female we can be assured that Jesus did not have same sex marriage in mind. How’s that, close enough?
William February 11th, 2015 at 10:44
Your point?
burqa February 11th, 2015 at 11:19
Uh oh.
The law of the land.
Hey William, the other day we were talking about jets and stuff and I mentioned the Soviets had stolen our jet technology. I loged off, but then spent a good chunk of time looking it up in my notes and then put up a post the next day listing about a dozen of their spies and what they stole here.
I don’t know if you saw it or not.
William February 11th, 2015 at 13:40
Sorry I didn’t see it.
burqa February 11th, 2015 at 13:49
Ok, well I’ll post it in the Wednesday Open thread. I don’t want to clutter this one up. Gimme a couple minutes and it’ll be there.
burqa February 11th, 2015 at 11:18
Jesus Christ did come out and clearly command us to love our neighbor as ourselves.
How can you oppose equality for your neighbor and follow the commandment to love him?
It’s outside of love to insist someone not have the same rights you do.
arc99 February 10th, 2015 at 13:56
He was not lying at all. You are.
Did candidate Obama say that his personal religious views should carry the force of law?
And I suppose the faith of these Israeli rabbis is not as rock solid as they make it out to be either?
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/conservative-movement-sanctions-same-sex-marriage-1.433911
Conservative Movement sanctions same-sex marriage
The Jewish movement’s central authority on Jewish law votes 13-0 to approve new guidelines for holding same-sex marriage ceremonies.
OldLefty February 10th, 2015 at 14:03
And we can also add that he was lying about his Christian faith.
______
And yet, he is a better Christian than his critics.
Go figure.
Red Mann February 10th, 2015 at 22:04
You mean the All-Amurican(TM) gay hatin’, mooslin hatin’, abortion hatin’, lazy welfare slob hatin’ Christians that make up God’s Own Party, the True Christians(TM)?
Hirightnow February 10th, 2015 at 13:54
OH NOES!!! OBAMA LIED AND…AND…and people who love each other gained the right to marry.
The end of the world, I suppose.
Hirightnow February 10th, 2015 at 14:54
OH NOES!!! OBAMA LIED AND…AND…and people who love each other gained the right to marry.
The end of the world, I suppose.
Hirightnow February 10th, 2015 at 14:55
Tell the class again where Jesus mentions homosexuality, Johnny?
John Tarter February 11th, 2015 at 11:13
He doesn’t come right out and mention it, but he alludes to it’s sinful nature and the people he chose to pick up the mantle of the new faith after him expounded on the way to live a holy life. As for marriage, Jesus talks about one man having one wife and what God has brought together should not be torn asunder. Since we know that marriage at that time was always only between a male and a female, we can be assured that Jesus did not have same sex marriage in mind.
William February 11th, 2015 at 11:44
Your point?
burqa February 11th, 2015 at 12:19
Uh oh.
The law of the land.
Hey William, the other day we were talking about jets and stuff and I mentioned the Soviets had stolen our jet technology. I loged off, but then spent a good chunk of time looking it up in my notes and then put up a post the next day listing about a dozen of their spies and what they stole here.
I don’t know if you saw it or not.
William February 11th, 2015 at 14:40
Sorry I didn’t see it.
burqa February 11th, 2015 at 14:49
Ok, well I’ll post it in the Off Topic Wednesday thread. I don’t want to clutter this one up. Gimme a couple minutes and it’ll be there.
burqa February 11th, 2015 at 12:18
Jesus Christ did come out and clearly command us to love our neighbor as ourselves.
How can you oppose equality for your neighbor and follow the commandment to love him?
It’s outside of love to insist someone not have the same rights you do.
arc99 February 10th, 2015 at 14:56
He was not lying at all. You are.
Did candidate Obama say that his personal religious views should carry the force of law?
And I suppose the faith of these Israeli rabbis is not as rock solid as they make it out to be either?
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/conservative-movement-sanctions-same-sex-marriage-1.433911
Conservative Movement sanctions same-sex marriage
The Jewish movement’s central authority on Jewish law votes 13-0 to approve new guidelines for holding same-sex marriage ceremonies.
OldLefty February 10th, 2015 at 15:03
And we can also add that he was lying about his Christian faith.
______
And yet, he is a better Christian than his critics.
Go figure.
OldLefty February 10th, 2015 at 14:04
That is what he SHOULD do. For all this “leadership” hooey, we vote for representatives, and that is exactly what Obama was in this case.
OldLefty February 10th, 2015 at 15:04
That is what he SHOULD do. For all this “leadership” hooey, we vote for representatives, and that is exactly what Obama was in this case.
Apocalypse February 10th, 2015 at 19:29
I’m happy to know that he was always for gay marriage, I suspected he was that smart. I’m not al all shocked to learn that a politician modulated his personal views for political reasons, they all pretend to be religiously devout to get elected IMHO.
Apocalypse February 10th, 2015 at 20:29
I’m happy to know that he was always for gay marriage, I suspected he was that smart. I’m not al all shocked to learn that a politician modulated his personal views for political reasons, they all pretend to be religiously devout to get elected IMHO.
jasperjava February 10th, 2015 at 21:44
President Obama will be remembered as the one who made marriage equality possible. In 2008 it was still toxic politically. Attitudes changed so quickly that when President Obama came out in favor in 2011 it opened the floodgates.
jasperjava February 10th, 2015 at 22:44
President Obama will be remembered as the one who made marriage equality possible. In 2008 it was still toxic politically. Attitudes changed so quickly that when President Obama came out in favor in 2011 it opened the floodgates.
Red Mann February 10th, 2015 at 23:04
You mean the All-Amurican(TM) gay hatin’, mooslin hatin’, abortion hatin’, lazy welfare slob hatin’ Christians that make up God’s Own Party, the True Christians(TM)?
burqa February 10th, 2015 at 22:14
It’s one thing to get bullshat once, but to get a second dose on the same subject is a tad much.
Ok, so the man lied to get elected. This is not uncommon. I think we all pretty much knew it at the time, and there was an understandable argument to leave it to the states.
But let’s not bullshit about the bullshit.
burqa February 10th, 2015 at 23:14
It’s one thing to get bullshat once, but to get a second dose on the same subject is a tad much.
Ok, so the man lied to get elected. This is not uncommon. I think we all pretty much knew it at the time, and there was an understandable argument to leave it to the states.
But let’s not bullshit about the bullshit.