Indiana Police Smash Car Window, Taze Black Man Because Profiling Didn’t Work Out
According to Lisa Mahone, she was on her way to visit her dying mother when she was pulled over for a seatbelt violation, and when cops asked her passenger, Jones, to show ID, he explained that he didn’t have it, but reached into a backpack to show them a ticket he’d recently gotten. That’s when the cops pulled their guns, Mahone called the police station, and her son started taping. The police account, at least the part that’s shown on the video, does not match the plainly obvious facts. For example, they say they smashed the window because Jones kept reaching “towards the rear seats of the vehicle,” but his hands are visible throughout the tape.
As this amazing video shows, passenger Jamal Jones presented no threat to police when they smashed through the car window, pulled him out, and tased him. This is the full version of the video, which also features the driver, Lisa Mahone, calling the Hammond Police to explain the situation, as her two children look on from the back seat…READ MORE
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By: Tommy Christopher
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Tammy Minton Haley October 7th, 2014 at 17:20
hey, ya’ll! big doins’ in Ferguson this weekend!
make a difference, teach the kids about justice, see America in a Chevrolet!
fergusonoctober.com
greenfloyd October 8th, 2014 at 08:19
It’s so heart warming to see this outpouring of love and resistance. Beatutiful web site as well. Thanks for the link.
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 16:07
did you see the protest at the symphony?
it was beautiful!
greenfloyd October 8th, 2014 at 22:49
Beautiful and very ingenuous, bringing the street into the concert hall and polite society can’t look away! Reminds me of the “Emperor’s New Clothes.”
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 22:51
“Which side are you on, Man? Which side are you on?”
i was, like, spiritually uplifted by that–it was all goose-bumpy…
Tammy Minton Haley October 7th, 2014 at 17:20
hey, ya’ll! big doins’ in Ferguson this weekend!
make a difference, teach the kids about justice, see America in a Chevrolet!
fergusonoctober.com
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org October 8th, 2014 at 08:19
It’s so heart warming to see this outpouring of love and resistance. Beatutiful web site as well. Thanks for the link.
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 16:07
did you see the protest at the symphony?
it was beautiful!
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org October 8th, 2014 at 22:49
Beautiful and very ingenious, bringing the street into the concert hall and polite society can’t look away! Reminds me of the “Emperor’s New Clothes.”
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 22:51
“Which side are you on, Man? Which side are you on?”
i was, like, spiritually uplifted by that–it was all goose-bumpy…
William October 7th, 2014 at 17:42
Thank you supreme court. Maryland v. Wilson, No. 95-1268
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/20/us/for-their-own-safety-police-can-order-people-cars-routine-stops-court-rules.html
greenfloyd October 8th, 2014 at 08:53
February 20, 1997 was not a good day for freedom in America, that’s for sure. While we’re at it, thank Bill Cllnton and Janet Reno also…
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 09:02
SCOTUS: ”interest in officer safety is present regardless of whether the occupant of the stopped car is a driver or passenger”
It was a 7-2 decision so not just along ideological lines.
greenfloyd October 8th, 2014 at 09:37
It’s a decession that needs to be revisited… waiting for an “occupant” to call a taxi. :)
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 16:25
i remember in the 80’s “probable cause” came to mean–“if a cop says he smells pot, he can search you”…
William October 7th, 2014 at 17:42
Thank you supreme court. Maryland v. Wilson, No. 95-1268
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/20/us/for-their-own-safety-police-can-order-people-cars-routine-stops-court-rules.html
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org October 8th, 2014 at 08:53
February 20, 1997 was not a good day for freedom in America, that’s for sure. While we’re at it, thank Bill Cllnton and Janet Reno also…
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 09:02
SCOTUS: ”interest in officer safety is present regardless of whether the occupant of the stopped car is a driver or passenger”
It was a 7-2 decision so not just along ideological lines.
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org October 8th, 2014 at 09:37
It’s a decession that needs to be revisited… waiting for an “occupant” to call a taxi. :)
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 16:25
i remember in the 80’s “probable cause” came to mean–“if a cop says he smells pot, he can search you”…
StoneyCurtisll October 7th, 2014 at 17:45
Shocking video clip..
I dont understand why the police were questioning the passenger..
And why a simple summons wasn’t written for the alleged seat belt violation and allow them to go on their way.
Larry Schmitt October 7th, 2014 at 17:49
In some states, it’s a ticketable offense. That doesn’t change the fact that what they did to the passenger was way over the top.
StoneyCurtisll October 7th, 2014 at 17:55
It’s a ticket able offense here too…
I guess maybe it was the passenger who they were attempting to cite and wanted some sort of ID?..
Either way it is over the top..
The police can and do write tickets all the time without anyone having to show an ID..
Parking Tickets..
Red light camera tickets..
Speed camera tickets..
This over the top breaking of the window and Tasing is just off the hook abuse of authority..(IMO)
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 07:47
no–it was the driver who was not wearing a seatbelt, that was reportedly the cause for the stop…the adult male in the front passenger seat was wearing his
asking for the passenger’s i.d. was a “profiling” move–the cop wanted to run his name, see if he had a warrant–so, he could make an arrest at the stop…plain and simple
the cop figured he had a warrant, ’cause he was black–and when i.d. wasn’t immediately produced…well, then–that’s “proof” he’s hiding something! now, he’s moving! oh, hell no!
this man just might be lucky as hell, that he’s still alive…
that’s just how cops think–at least, the ones that are on the job for awhile–at least a good number of them…they seem to lose objectivity, approach everyone as a stereotype, and assume immediate guilt…
we are slowly building ourselves a fascist force of armed, scared, uniformed fat guys…what the hell?
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 08:24
“Police officers who make legal traffic stops are allowed to ask passengers inside of a stopped vehicle for identification and to request that they exit a stopped vehicle for the officer’s safety without a requirement of reasonable suspicion. When the passenger displayed movements inside of the stopped vehicle that included placing his hand in places where the officer could not see, officers’ concerns for their safety were heightened.”
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 16:06
so? that’s not what was asked…
StoneyCurtisll October 8th, 2014 at 15:55
Right On Tammy~!
If the police are this afraid or paranoid doing their jobs..
Maybe they need to find a less threatening job where they do not put the public in danger.
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 16:22
it’s been proven, time and again, that these small towns get tons of revenue from traffic stops, and fines, and court costs–it’s a pyramid scheme…the only purpose these guys have is to write enough tickets to pay the light bill at the courthouse…and, the beginning of the farce is the traffic stop…and, maybe somebody’s got a warrant–jackpot!
StoneyCurtisll October 8th, 2014 at 16:28
Bingo~!
whatthe46 October 7th, 2014 at 17:49
because that would make sense. something some police officers just don’t possess.
Skydog2 October 7th, 2014 at 22:35
“I dont understand why the police were questioning the passenger.”
Me either.
I don’t understand why the passenger didn’t get out of the car when ordered to do so by the police.
greenfloyd October 8th, 2014 at 00:15
Because it was an illegal order, not to mention extremely rude. These thugs with badges were clearly motivated by something other than a seatbelt.
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 02:43
How was order illegal?
The Hammond police said:
“Police officers who make legal traffic stops are allowed to ask passengers inside of a stopped vehicle for identification and to request that they exit a stopped vehicle for the officer’s safety without a requirement of reasonable suspicion. When the passenger displayed movements inside of the stopped vehicle that included placing his hand in places where the officer could not see, officers’ concerns for their safety were heightened.”
fahvel October 8th, 2014 at 03:35
chicken cop lies to cover their asses.
Carla Akins October 8th, 2014 at 04:42
We are also told that if we are in fear, or doubt the veracity of the command to immediate call 911 – which she did. The passenger had been reasonable and respectful they never offer any reasonable to cause to ask him to get out of the vehicle – and if I were a black man today in Indiana I would be afraid as well. Police are shooting a black man every 28 hours – that you give you pause.
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 08:21
There was no reason to be in fear (at least until the situation escalated).
Carla Akins October 8th, 2014 at 08:36
Clearly they were – she called 911 for a reason. She did not dispute the ticket, why were they not allowed to move on?
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 16:47
my theory, is the cop wanted an “outstanding warrant arrest”–and figured—“hmm, black guy…not driving…no i.d.—must have a warrant!…how bad can i show my ass?”
then, he showed his ass…
Carla Akins October 8th, 2014 at 17:03
I wholeheartedly agree, it was stop and frisk by car.
greenfloyd October 8th, 2014 at 08:43
From the video it appears to be just as the OP states in the title, “…until it became clear profiling didn’t work.” When these cops encountered non-violent resistance is when the situation escalated.
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 08:54
There’s zero proof the police were motivated by “profiling”.
For the sake of the kids in the back seat, I would have shown no resistance and the situation would have never escalated.
And let’s not pretend the second he resisted they smashed his window, the conversation went on for a couple of minutes, he had every opportunity to comply and de-escalate the situation but choose not to do so.
NW10 October 8th, 2014 at 09:18
There’s zero proof the police were motivated by “profiling”.
So explain how an open carry white dude can threaten to shoot police, and the police don’t so much as flinch and actually TALK to the suspect, whereas a black person in a vehicle doesn’t do a thing wrong, gets his window smashed, and then gets tazed. Or a black person sitting, waiting for his children gets arrested for no reason. You’re full of chit!
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 10:59
“open carry white dude can threaten to shoot police”
Citation? I’d be surprised to see a person with a gun threaten to shoot a cop and not get arrested.
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 16:44
it’s a story, right here on this website…anybody got the link? i remember reading it…
nobody’s lying about it, dog…we don’t have to lie to you–since you seem determined to become our token regressive–then you need to show us a little more respect than that…we don’t have to lie, dog…just flat-out don’t have to…
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 22:38
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greenfloyd October 8th, 2014 at 22:38
Yeah, it’s called “suicide by cop.”
greenfloyd October 8th, 2014 at 09:26
Profiling is not a motivation, it’s a tactic, motivated by rewards for things like how many arrests, drugs, houses and cars you can squeeze out of a seatbelt violation.
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 16:28
exactly–these small towns get way too much revenue from over-policing, over-ticketing…
pauly October 8th, 2014 at 12:49
Obviously EVERYBDY has a right to fear the police now.
greenfloyd October 8th, 2014 at 08:08
Please see Sec. 3.1(a) above…
StoneyCurtisll October 8th, 2014 at 16:14
It’s real simple…
the police could have written a ticket for the “seat belt” violation..
And allowed the people to go about their business..
The police escalated the situation by needlessly demanding identification of a passenger…
Two of the police officers in the lawsuit have had prior complaints of civil rights violations, and abuse of power complaints.
fahvel October 8th, 2014 at 03:34
what gives a police the right to arbitrarily order anything or anyone??????? His fkn gun?
rg9rts October 8th, 2014 at 06:45
Cause he was black???
StoneyCurtisll October 8th, 2014 at 16:06
Because he doesn’t have to “get out of the car” or “show us your ID” as a passenger during a seat belt violation stop without probable cause as to suspect the passenger of some criminal activity.
greenfloyd October 7th, 2014 at 23:55
This is from the Banter…
StoneyCurtisll October 7th, 2014 at 17:45
Shocking video clip..
I dont understand why the police were questioning the passenger..
And why a simple summons wasn’t written for the alleged seat belt violation and allow them to go on their way.
Larry Schmitt October 7th, 2014 at 17:49
In some states, it’s a ticketable offense. That doesn’t change the fact that what they did to the passenger was way over the top.
StoneyCurtisll October 7th, 2014 at 17:55
It’s a ticket able offense here too…
I guess maybe it was the passenger who they were attempting to cite and wanted some sort of ID?..
Either way it is over the top..
The police can and do write tickets all the time without anyone having to show an ID..
Parking Tickets..
Red light camera tickets..
Speed camera tickets..
This over the top breaking of the window and Tasing is just off the hook abuse of authority..(IMO)
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 07:47
no–it was the driver who was not wearing a seatbelt, that was reportedly the cause for the stop…the adult male in the front passenger seat was wearing his
asking for the passenger’s i.d. was a “profiling” move–the cop wanted to run his name, see if he had a warrant–so, he could make an arrest at the stop…plain and simple
the cop figured he had a warrant, ’cause he was black–and when i.d. wasn’t immediately produced…well, then–that’s “proof” he’s hiding something! now, he’s moving! oh, hell no!
this man just might be lucky as hell, that he’s still alive…
that’s just how cops think–at least, the ones that are on the job for awhile–at least a good number of them…they seem to lose objectivity, approach everyone as a stereotype, and assume immediate guilt…
we are slowly building ourselves a fascist force of armed, scared, uniformed fat guys…what the hell?
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 08:24
“Police officers who make legal traffic stops are allowed to ask passengers inside of a stopped vehicle for identification and to request that they exit a stopped vehicle for the officer’s safety without a requirement of reasonable suspicion. When the passenger displayed movements inside of the stopped vehicle that included placing his hand in places where the officer could not see, officers’ concerns for their safety were heightened.”
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 16:06
so? that’s not what was asked…
StoneyCurtisll October 8th, 2014 at 15:55
Right On Tammy~!
If the police are this afraid or paranoid doing their jobs..
Maybe they need to find a less threatening job where they do not put the public in danger.
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 16:22
it’s been proven, time and again, that these small towns get tons of revenue from traffic stops, and fines, and court costs–it’s a pyramid scheme…the only purpose these guys have is to write enough tickets to pay the light bill at the courthouse…and, the beginning of the farce is the traffic stop…and, maybe somebody’s got a warrant–jackpot!
StoneyCurtisll October 8th, 2014 at 16:28
Bingo~!
whatthe46 October 7th, 2014 at 17:49
because that would make sense. something some police officers just don’t possess.
Skydog2 October 7th, 2014 at 22:35
“I dont understand why the police were questioning the passenger.”
Me either.
I don’t understand why the passenger didn’t get out of the car when ordered to do so by the police.
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org October 8th, 2014 at 00:15
Because it was an illegal order, not to mention extremely rude. These thugs with badges were clearly motivated by something other than a seatbelt.
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 02:43
How was order illegal?
The Hammond police said:
“Police officers who make legal traffic stops are allowed to ask passengers inside of a stopped vehicle for identification and to request that they exit a stopped vehicle for the officer’s safety without a requirement of reasonable suspicion. When the passenger displayed movements inside of the stopped vehicle that included placing his hand in places where the officer could not see, officers’ concerns for their safety were heightened.”
fahvel October 8th, 2014 at 03:35
chicken cop lies to cover their asses.
Carla Akins October 8th, 2014 at 04:42
We are also told that if we are in fear, or doubt the veracity of the command to immediate call 911 – which she did. The passenger had been reasonable and respectful they never offer any reasonable to cause to ask him to get out of the vehicle – and if I were a black man today in Indiana I would be afraid as well. Police are shooting a black man every 28 hours – that you give you pause.
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 08:21
There was no reason to be in fear (at least until the situation escalated).
Carla Akins October 8th, 2014 at 08:36
Clearly they were – she called 911 for a reason. She did not dispute the ticket, why were they not allowed to move on?
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 16:47
my theory, is the cop wanted an “outstanding warrant arrest”–and figured—“hmm, black guy…not driving…no i.d.—must have a warrant!…how bad can i show my ass?”
then, he showed his ass…
Carla Akins October 8th, 2014 at 17:03
I wholeheartedly agree, it was stop and frisk by car.
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org October 8th, 2014 at 08:43
From the video it appears to be just as the OP states in the title, “…until it became clear profiling didn’t work.” When these cops encountered non-violent resistance is when the situation escalated.
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 08:54
There’s zero proof the police were motivated by “profiling”.
For the sake of the kids in the back seat, I would have shown no resistance and the situation would have never escalated.
And let’s not pretend the second he resisted they smashed his window, the conversation went on for a couple of minutes, he had every opportunity to comply and de-escalate the situation but choose not to do so.
(((NW10,PATRIOT! ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ))) October 8th, 2014 at 09:18
There’s zero proof the police were motivated by “profiling”.
So explain how an open carry white dude can threaten to shoot police, and the police don’t so much as flinch and actually TALK to the suspect, whereas a black person in a vehicle doesn’t do a thing wrong, gets his window smashed, and then gets tazed. Or a black person sitting, waiting for his children gets arrested for no reason. You’re full of chit!
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 10:59
“open carry white dude can threaten to shoot police”
Citation? I’d be surprised to see a person with a gun threaten to shoot a cop and not get arrested.
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 16:44
it’s a story, right here on this website…anybody got the link? i remember reading it…
nobody’s lying about it, dog…we don’t have to lie to you–since you seem determined to become our token regressive–then you need to show us a little more respect than that…we don’t have to lie, dog…just flat-out don’t have to…
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 22:38
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.personal.psu.edu%2Fafr3%2Fblogs%2Fsiowfa13%2Fyawning.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.personal.psu.edu%2Fafr3%2Fblogs%2Fsiowfa13%2F2013%2F12%2Fcaution-yawns-ahead.html&h=1280&w=853&tbnid=ktDfVcWemv8T5M%3A&zoom=1&docid=2fUiFzRrqIdmDM&ei=1PQ1VJnvBOXbsASx7YGgDw&tbm=isch&ved=0CCAQMygCMAI&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=1352&page=1&start=0&ndsp=16
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org October 8th, 2014 at 22:38
Yeah, it’s called “suicide by cop.”
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org October 8th, 2014 at 09:26
Profiling is not a motivation, it’s a tactic, motivated by rewards for things like how many arrests, drugs, houses and cars you can squeeze out of a seatbelt violation.
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 16:28
exactly–these small towns get way too much revenue from over-policing, over-ticketing…
pauly October 8th, 2014 at 12:49
Obviously EVERYBDY has a right to fear the police now.
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org October 8th, 2014 at 08:08
Please see Sec. 3.1(a) above…
StoneyCurtisll October 8th, 2014 at 16:14
It’s real simple…
the police could have written a ticket for the “seat belt” violation..
And allowed the people to go about their business..
The police escalated the situation by needlessly demanding identification of a passenger…
Two of the police officers in the lawsuit have had prior complaints of civil rights violations, and abuse of power complaints.
fahvel October 8th, 2014 at 03:34
what gives a police the right to arbitrarily order anything or anyone??????? His fkn gun?
rg9rts October 8th, 2014 at 06:45
Cause he was black???
StoneyCurtisll October 8th, 2014 at 16:06
Because he doesn’t have to “get out of the car” or “show us your ID” as a passenger during a seat belt violation stop without probable cause as to suspect the passenger of some criminal activity.
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org October 7th, 2014 at 23:55
This is from the Banter…
Denise October 7th, 2014 at 19:03
Protect and serve my a**! It makes me wonder why African-Americans even join the military. Its not like this country has treated black people with respect. So why die for this country?
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 07:27
i, too, am awed by this…and most thankful, these Americans see beyond this shabby treatment, to a “more perfect” union…
Denise October 7th, 2014 at 19:03
Protect and serve my a**! It makes me wonder why African-Americans even join the military. Its not like this country has treated black people with respect. So why die for this country?
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 07:27
i, too, am awed by this…and most thankful, these Americans see beyond this shabby treatment, to a “more perfect” union…
Skydog2 October 7th, 2014 at 22:31
“reached into a backpack ……. that’s when the cops pulled their guns”
Sounds like a reasonable reaction by the police.
Carla Akins October 8th, 2014 at 04:37
Except he was not driving, was not given the instruction to keep his hands on the wheel (he wasn’t driving) nor was he told to even keep his hands in view – he was told to get his ID. He was calm, reasonable and requested to speak with a Lt after they pulled their guns on him after he reached for the ID they asked for. Did you bother to watch the video?
rg9rts October 8th, 2014 at 06:43
Waste of time talking to the wasted
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 08:16
The police asked for ID, he didn’t have any. They asked him to get out, he refused. He continued to move about including placing his hand in places where the officer could not see causing the officers to fear for their safety.
Carla Akins October 8th, 2014 at 08:38
Watch the video, he not move his hands anywhere except towards the driver when she handed him the ticket. If the officer asks for something – you move your hands to get the damn thing. What do they expect? After they pulled their guns on him he did not move his hands outside of their view.
NW10 October 8th, 2014 at 09:14
Why would the police ask for the ID of the PASSENGER? Was the PASSENGER the one driving without a seatbelt?
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 11:00
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/20/us/for-their-own-safety-police-can-order-people-cars-routine-stops-court-rules.html
pauly October 8th, 2014 at 12:47
Don’t care what the cops want or ask for. If it’s against
the constitution then fuck em!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 16:39
nope…
rg9rts October 8th, 2014 at 06:44
If those thugs had body cams there would be no issue
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 08:09
In general body cameras are helpful; in this instance it all on tape so body cameras would make no difference.
rg9rts October 8th, 2014 at 09:30
And YOU know this HOW???? Xray Vision I suppose
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 10:54
Because it’s already on tape. Have you seen the video?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-hammond-police-taser-story.html
Skydog2 October 7th, 2014 at 22:31
“reached into a backpack ……. that’s when the cops pulled their guns”
Sounds like a reasonable reaction by the police.
I’ve been advised when pulled over by the police to turn on the interior light (if at night) and keep both hands on the steering wheel (or in clear sight). Do you best to make sure the man with a gun isn’t nervous.
fahvel October 8th, 2014 at 03:32
lock stock and barrel – you’ve fallen for the fear syndrome that has turned your police into chicken shit cretins afraid of their own shadows – comply, and each time you do a piece of freedom goes down your toilet.
Carla Akins October 8th, 2014 at 04:37
Except he was not driving, was not given the instruction to keep his hands on the wheel (he wasn’t driving) nor was he told to even keep his hands in view – he was told to get his ID. He was calm, reasonable and requested to speak with a Lt after they pulled their guns on him after he reached for the ID they asked for. Did you bother to watch the video?
rg9rts October 8th, 2014 at 06:43
Waste of time talking to the wasted
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 08:16
The police asked for ID, he didn’t have any. They asked him to get out, he refused. He continued to move about including placing his hand in places where the officer could not see causing the officers to fear for their safety.
Carla Akins October 8th, 2014 at 08:38
Watch the video, he not move his hands anywhere except towards the driver when she handed him the ticket. If the officer asks for something – you move your hands to get the damn thing. What do they expect? After they pulled their guns on him he did not move his hands outside of their view.
(((NW10,PATRIOT! ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ))) October 8th, 2014 at 09:14
Why would the police ask for the ID of the PASSENGER? Was the PASSENGER the one driving without a seatbelt?
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 11:00
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/20/us/for-their-own-safety-police-can-order-people-cars-routine-stops-court-rules.html
pauly October 8th, 2014 at 12:47
Don’t care what the cops want or ask for. If it’s against
the constitution then fuck em!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
Tammy Minton Haley October 8th, 2014 at 16:39
nope…
rg9rts October 8th, 2014 at 06:44
If those thugs had body cams there would be no issue
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 08:09
In general body cameras are helpful; in this instance it all on tape so body cameras would make no difference.
rg9rts October 8th, 2014 at 09:30
And YOU know this HOW???? Xray Vision I suppose
Skydog2 October 8th, 2014 at 10:54
Because it’s already on tape. Have you seen the video?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-hammond-police-taser-story.html
rg9rts October 8th, 2014 at 06:44
Roll the tape
rg9rts October 8th, 2014 at 06:44
Roll the tape
ericpedersen October 8th, 2014 at 10:01
American citizens are not required to identify or show ID to Police
unless there is a reasonable suspicion that a crime is or has occured.
That is the law. These police are abusing their authority. They will
be found guilty in court and a large sum of money will be paid and some
of these officers will lose their jobs. Our police have become fascist
military nut jobs. There will come a day when we stand up and fight
back, you can count on that. We are watching, and we don’t forget. We outnumber the police 1000’s to one. They know it and we know it.
ericpedersen October 8th, 2014 at 10:01
American citizens are not required to identify or show ID to Police
unless there is a reasonable suspicion that a crime is or has occured.
That is the law. These police are abusing their authority. They will
be found guilty in court and a large sum of money will be paid and some
of these officers will lose their jobs. Our police have become fascist
military nut jobs. There will come a day when we stand up and fight
back, you can count on that. We are watching, and we don’t forget. We outnumber the police 1000’s to one. They know it and we know it.
Guest October 8th, 2014 at 13:08
We have some people here (and we know who he is) who believe
that cops are infallible and any order given, is a divine request straight from
God herself! If a cop tell you to bend over and drop your shorts, to some the
only proper response if to comply.
The Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution is
the part of the Bill of Rights that prohibits unreasonable searches and
seizures and requires any warrant to be judicially sanctioned and supported by
probable cause. Cops now day have subverted the Constitution on many levels but
none as much as the 4th.
The arguments used by people who will willing suck a cops
dick of so ordered is; “Don’t they have the right to do this so they can be
able to go home to their families.” My
answer is NO!!!!!!!!!
You put on a uniform than your duty is to the citizens of
America FIRST! You are a civil servant, weather you like it or not. Servants
serve the public. Now day’s you can’t just say “a few bad apples”.
Mr. 200 credits will tell you that because you are not a cop
like he used to be than you can’t possible know what life is like for a cop.
Again I call BULL!!! Most of us have friends, family, spouse or children who
are/were cops. We read autobiography’s and see true experience movies. Article
after article of whistle blowers have been published. It’s NOT rocket science…its
service with a gun…well…it used to be.
Cops KNOW who’s a bad cop. They all know. And by that fact alone
they all look the other way when the bad cops commit crimes…or…they actively
defend them either because of the “Blue Shield” crap or out of plain fear.
Either way, they indifference or inability to act MAKES them bad cops as well. They
are accessories…and they know it.
In today’s world, you have better be afraid of cops. And if you’re
a minority, or poor, your life depends upon that fear.
Guest October 8th, 2014 at 13:08
We have some people here (and we know who he is) who believe
that cops are infallible and any order given, is a divine request straight from
God herself! If a cop tell you to bend over and drop your shorts, to some the
only proper response if to comply.
The Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution is
the part of the Bill of Rights that prohibits unreasonable searches and
seizures and requires any warrant to be judicially sanctioned and supported by
probable cause. Cops now day have subverted the Constitution on many levels but
none as much as the 4th.
The arguments used by people who will willing suck a cops
dick of so ordered is; “Don’t they have the right to do this so they can be
able to go home to their families.” My
answer is NO!!!!!!!!!
You put on a uniform than your duty is to the citizens of
America FIRST! You are a civil servant, weather you like it or not. Servants
serve the public. Now day’s you can’t just say “a few bad apples”.
Mr. 200 credits will tell you that because you are not a cop
like he used to be than you can’t possible know what life is like for a cop.
Again I call BULL!!! Most of us have friends, family, spouse or children who
are/were cops. We read autobiography’s and see true experience movies. Article
after article of whistle blowers have been published. It’s NOT rocket science…its
service with a gun…well…it used to be.
Cops KNOW who’s a bad cop. They all know. And by that fact alone
they all look the other way when the bad cops commit crimes…or…they actively
defend them either because of the “Blue Shield” crap or out of plain fear.
Either way, they indifference or inability to act MAKES them bad cops as well. They
are accessories…and they know it.
In today’s world, you have better be afraid of cops. And if you’re
a minority, or poor, your life depends upon that fear.
pauly October 8th, 2014 at 13:24
We have some people here (and we know who he is) who believe that cops are infallible and any order given, is a divine request straight from God herself! If a cop tell you to bend over and drop your shorts, to some the only proper response if to comply.
The Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution is the part of the Bill of Rights that prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures and requires any warrant to be judicially sanctioned and supported by probable cause. Cops now day have subverted the Constitution on many levels but none as much as the 4th.
The arguments used by people who will willing suck a cops dick of so ordered is; “Don’t they have the right to do this so they can be able to go home to their families.” My answer is NO!!!!!!!!!
You put on a uniform than your duty is to the citizens of America FIRST! You are a civil servant, whether you like it or not. Servants serve the public. That mean they average law abiding citizen gets to go home before cops do. That’s why we have cops .Problem is that we NOW need a new police force to protect us (the average citizen) from todays cops.
Cops now act, dress and assume they are in a war zone, that everybody is an immediate threat to their very lives…and act accordingly. The act like they are at war…but…one distinction. The threat to their lives is minimal. That the advisories they are fighting in this war are (for the most part) unarmed, unprepared for the fight, not allowed to even fight back or even ask questions. It’s like a video game war. They know at the end of the day they will be going home but some poor sap who “reached into his backpack” after being told to get his ID may not.
Mr. 200 credits will tell you that if you are/were not a cop like he used to be than you can’t possible know what life is like for a cop. And again you should comply with any and all orders. Again I call BULL!!! Most of us have friends, family, spouse or children who are/were cops. We read autobiography’s and see true experience movies. Article after article of whistle blowers have been published. It’s NOT rocket science…its service with a gun…well…it used to be.
Know your rights, exercise them and get ready to be punished for that knowledge. If you survive your encounter with the cops you may come out much, much wealthier. The problem is, the bill gets flipped to the tax payers…us. The BEST thing you can do is to install cameras in your car and have a camera on your person at all times. A camera may be the only thing that saves your life.
In today’s world, you have better be afraid of cops. And if
you’re a minority, or poor, your life depends upon that fear.
greenfloyd October 8th, 2014 at 22:28
Fantastic post. IMO, out of a 100, 98! I would only add that as smart as having a camera is the real problem is with the political establishment who created this “war” senario in the first place… Thank you.
pauly October 8th, 2014 at 13:24
We have some people here (and we know who he is) who believe that cops are infallible and any order given, is a divine request straight from God herself! If a cop tell you to bend over and drop your shorts, to some the only proper response if to comply.
The Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution is the part of the Bill of Rights that prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures and requires any warrant to be judicially sanctioned and supported by probable cause. Cops now day have subverted the Constitution on many levels but none as much as the 4th.
The arguments used by people who will willing suck a cops dick of so ordered is; “Don’t they have the right to do this so they can be able to go home to their families.” My answer is NO!!!!!!!!!
You put on a uniform than your duty is to the citizens of America FIRST! You are a civil servant, whether you like it or not. Servants serve the public. That mean they average law abiding citizen gets to go home before cops do. That’s why we have cops .Problem is that we NOW need a new police force to protect us (the average citizen) from todays cops.
Cops now act, dress and assume they are in a war zone, that everybody is an immediate threat to their very lives…and act accordingly. The act like they are at war…but…one distinction. The threat to their lives is minimal. That the advisories they are fighting in this war are (for the most part) unarmed, unprepared for the fight, not allowed to even fight back or even ask questions. It’s like a video game war. They know at the end of the day they will be going home but some poor sap who “reached into his backpack” after being told to get his ID may not.
Mr. 200 credits will tell you that if you are/were not a cop like he used to be than you can’t possible know what life is like for a cop. And again you should comply with any and all orders. Again I call BULL!!! Most of us have friends, family, spouse or children who are/were cops. We read autobiography’s and see true experience movies. Article after article of whistle blowers have been published. It’s NOT rocket science…its service with a gun…well…it used to be.
Know your rights, exercise them and get ready to be punished for that knowledge. If you survive your encounter with the cops you may come out much, much wealthier. The problem is, the bill gets flipped to the tax payers…us. The BEST thing you can do is to install cameras in your car and have a camera on your person at all times. A camera may be the only thing that saves your life.
In today’s world, you have better be afraid of cops. And if
you’re a minority, or poor, your life depends upon that fear.
floyd[@]greenfloyd.org October 8th, 2014 at 22:28
Fantastic post. IMO, out of a 100, 98! I would only add that as smart as having a camera is the real problem is with the political establishment who created this “war” senario in the first place… Thank you.