Cruz’s ‘Amnesty’ Lie Causes Politifact Truth-O-Meter Meltdown
Only slightly.
Ted Cruz says Barack Obama has promised amnesty to illegal immigrants. Well, guess what? It’s beyond “pants on fire”:
Click here for reuse options!Cruz, addressing reporters a week before Obama asked Congress for more money and authority to make it easier to deport recent border crossers, said a survey showed that 95 percent of the immigrants were saying “we are coming because we’ve been promised amnesty.” We rated this Half True; the statistic was right, but the use of the word “amnesty” wasn’t. The survey and respondents used the word “permiso,” which is a notice given to unaccompanied children enabling them to stay in the country until their cases get a review. That doesn’t amount to amnesty.
After mentioning such expectations of amnesty, Cruz went on to say: “That’s the message that’s being heard. And the reason these children are coming in staggering numbers is because the president has been promising amnesty.”
Wait: Has the Democratic president been promising amnesty? …
[Janet] Napolitano had said the government would use “prosecutorial discretion” not to deport certain children living in the U.S. without authorization, specifying the policy would apply only to individuals who came to the United States before they turned 16 and before June 2007–plus there were other conditions.
“This is not amnesty,” Obama said. “This is not immunity. This is not a path to citizenship. It’s not a permanent fix. This is a temporary, stopgap measure that lets us focus our resources wisely while giving a degree of relief and hope to talented, driven, patriotic young people. It is the — it is the right thing to do.” …
We suppose the government’s 2012 declaration it wouldn’t deport certain young residents already here by 2007 might be misinterpreted as an everlasting amnesty signal by some. But Obama hasn’t offered amnesty to anyone.
Other factors in children streaming north from Central America include home-country conditions and a policy reaffirmed by Congress before Obama became president enabling unaccompanied children from places other than Canada and Mexico to settle here with family members or others while waiting for immigration cases to be heard.
We rate this statement as False.
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By: dave-dr-gonzo
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* Hirsch is the third person to use the pseudonym, a not-so-veiled tribute to journalist and author Hunter S. Thompson, with the permission of his predecessors Gene Gaudette of American Politics Journal (currently webmaster and chief bottlewasher at Liberaland) and Stephen Meese at Smashmouth Politics.
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Shades July 21st, 2014 at 09:12
Let me know when Ted Cruz doesn’t lie. That will be news.
Obewon July 21st, 2014 at 09:26
Cruz retains his single true statement earning him a 3% Truth rating! http://www.politifact.com/personalities/ted-cruz/
granpa.usthai July 21st, 2014 at 18:51
” hi, my name is ted cruz”?
(well, jeepers, Shades, just because he don’t have a US birth certificate to prove it doesn’t necessarily mean he’s LYING – unless he’s a Cuban sleeper spy planted by Fidel a long time ago?).
Shades July 21st, 2014 at 09:12
Let me know when Ted Cruz doesn’t lie. That will be news.
Obewon July 21st, 2014 at 09:26
Cruz retains his single true statement earning him a 3% Truth rating! http://www.politifact.com/personalities/ted-cruz/
granpa.usthai July 21st, 2014 at 18:51
” hi, my name is ted cruz”?
(well, jeepers, Shades, just because he don’t have a US birth certificate to prove it doesn’t necessarily mean he’s LYING – unless he’s a Cuban sleeper spy planted by Fidel a long time ago?).
William July 21st, 2014 at 09:26
“And the reason these children are coming in staggering numbers is because the president has been promising amnesty.”
Well?
He’s correct. Good for Ted Cruz. He’s pretty well versed in American History for a Canadian eh?
granpa.usthai July 21st, 2014 at 18:47
dang bright younguns if you ask me.
Some ain’t even left the diaper stage yet
and already speaking two languages!
William July 21st, 2014 at 09:26
“And the reason these children are coming in staggering numbers is because the president has been promising amnesty.”
Well?
He’s correct. Good for Ted Cruz. He’s pretty well versed in American History for a Canadian eh?
granpa.usthai July 21st, 2014 at 18:47
dang bright younguns if you ask me.
Some ain’t even left the diaper stage yet
and already speaking two languages!
Anomaly 100 July 21st, 2014 at 09:40
I’m wearing my shocked face.
M D Reese July 21st, 2014 at 12:01
Trolls have been thick lately. I wonder if Redstate just graduated a new bunch and sent them over here to practice…
Anomaly 100 July 21st, 2014 at 12:09
It could be Vanderboegh again. I haven’t checked his site for a couple of days.
M D Reese July 21st, 2014 at 23:01
I like that you folks keep on them. Thanks!
Shades July 21st, 2014 at 13:39
If so, they need a refresher course.
granpa.usthai July 21st, 2014 at 18:43
graduated?
I thought Redstates
OOZED?
M D Reese July 21st, 2014 at 22:50
…or suck–federal dollars that is. Texas breaks even, but that will change.
granpa.usthai July 21st, 2014 at 18:40
it’s every bit as beautiful as your complacent face, An, only your eyes sparkle more.
Anomaly 100 July 21st, 2014 at 19:20
Ruh roh. I owe you money, right?
ShelleysLeg July 21st, 2014 at 20:10
LOL….when anything comes out about Cruz, it causes me to wear my ‘resting bitch’ face!
Anomaly 100 July 21st, 2014 at 20:14
LOL!
ShelleysLeg July 21st, 2014 at 20:17
Hey I unfortunately live only 30 miles from San Antonio and can only pray the Eagle Ford shale swallows him whole!
You can be SURE I did not vote for him!
Anomaly 100 July 21st, 2014 at 09:40
I’m wearing my shocked face.
M D Reese July 21st, 2014 at 12:01
Trolls have been thick lately. I wonder if Redstate just graduated a new bunch and sent them over here to practice…
Anomaly 100 July 21st, 2014 at 12:09
It could be Vanderboegh again. I haven’t checked his site for a couple of days.
M D Reese July 21st, 2014 at 23:01
I like that you folks keep on them. Thanks!
Shades July 21st, 2014 at 13:39
If so, they need a refresher course.
granpa.usthai July 21st, 2014 at 18:43
graduated?
I thought Redstates
OOZED?
M D Reese July 21st, 2014 at 22:50
…or suck–federal dollars that is. Texas breaks even, but that will change.
granpa.usthai July 21st, 2014 at 18:40
it’s every bit as beautiful as your complacent face, An, only your eyes sparkle more.
Anomaly 100 July 21st, 2014 at 19:20
Ruh roh. I owe you money, right?
ShelleysLeg July 21st, 2014 at 20:10
LOL….when anything comes out about Cruz, it causes me to wear my ‘resting bitch’ face!
Anomaly 100 July 21st, 2014 at 20:14
LOL!
ShelleysLeg July 21st, 2014 at 20:17
Hey I unfortunately live only 30 miles from San Antonio and can only pray the Eagle Ford shale swallows him whole!
You can be SURE I did not vote for him!
John Tarter July 21st, 2014 at 10:20
But amnesty is just what Obama and many Dems have in mind, that’s why he continues to let all these new illegals come in, it’s overwhelm the system time for the Alinskyites. As for President Reagan he admitted afterwards that his policy was a mistake and we are now reaping the whirlwind of that disastrous idea.
Obewon July 21st, 2014 at 10:36
There is no “amnesty” bill in Boehner’s congress, nor is there any vote planned either. Any bill’s cite 20 years before conveying U.S. citizenship to undocumented immigrants. If you comprehend the article and link, then you’d see why everyone is always laughing at Limbots like Cruz’ and your latest delusions de jour.
Dwendt44 July 21st, 2014 at 12:16
Of course, with a shrinking jobs and the trend to low wages and zero benefits, we could use a declining population.
to bad the world population isn’t shrinking. We cannot sustain 7 billion people forever.
William July 21st, 2014 at 11:00
“But amnesty is just what Obama and many Dems have in mind”.
Good ‘ol Tater (or whatever LL I.D. he’s using today). Playing that tired ‘ol Limbaugh shtick telling us what people “think”.
M D Reese July 21st, 2014 at 12:00
Indeed! Geez–you’d think that this country was BUILT by immigrants! Oh wait…
BanditBasheert July 21st, 2014 at 13:22
Limpballs has “schtick”? Seriously? I thought it took Viagra and Oxycontin and his rages were acted out on his little boy sex trips to the Dominican Republic – I thought that’s the only time his “schtick” could work.
William July 21st, 2014 at 13:34
Not true. Rush is a big supporter of traditional marriage…..
granpa.usthai July 21st, 2014 at 18:32
THANK YOU AMERICAN GRANPAWIL, and I’d also like to add:
FREEZE ALL OFFSHORE BANK ACCOUNTS HELD BY US CITIZENS UNTIL A FULL PUBLIC DISCLOSURE IS POSTED.
not my bank account
not my f’ing problem.
arc99 July 21st, 2014 at 11:11
your post pure unadulterated lying bullsh*t.
so now you know what Dems “have in mind”? you have psychic mind-reading powers? there is no public record of President Regan admitting any error. There is only unconfirmed second-hand information from Ed Meese.
and what the f*ck is an Alinksyite?
William July 21st, 2014 at 13:19
Reagan….the great myth of the right wing Fox sheeple.
BanditBasheert July 21st, 2014 at 13:19
It’s almost funny, how the lunatic haters have all their panties in a wad imagining waves of BROWN people overwhelming their WHITE country. Who cares what color or ethnicity people are? This hatred is directed at people of color, no matter how they deny it.
Cruz is the worst – his father came here in 1978 and refused to take citizenship until 2005 when his screwball son managed to get elected. But the Cruz family would deny even political refugees (sort of “do as I say but not as I did”) – the whole family is filled with nuts.
ShelleysLeg July 21st, 2014 at 20:07
NO his father came in 1957 and took OUR money to go to UT then migrated to Canada for DECADES! He didn’t even apply for US citizenship until 2004/2005.
That was AFTER he fought side by side with the scourge of Cuba, Fidel Castro, that ‘commie’ we have sanctioned since the 1960s.
granpa.usthai July 21st, 2014 at 18:23
infinity to 1 any “new illegal” that has made it to the border of Libertyland has endured more dangers and hardship than any groups of the white trash that has gathered along the border to face combat with pre K children – and yet these children are still willing to come to OUR schools, live in OUR racist society, work to be producers not REDUCERS!
NEVER! in OUR HISTORY has there ever been a more dedicated and loyal to the principles of these United States than those standing at our southern gateway today.
Let some of them in?
HELL!
I say roll out a red carpet 2,500 miles wide by 1,000 miles long!!!
If we start to get crowded, we could always throw the overly spoiled do nothing worthless white racist republican privileged class out on their lazy behinds! They’ll be much happier with their half naked half pint former KGB chipmunk wider or overly plump PDRK bestest friend anyway.
BanditBasheert July 21st, 2014 at 13:15
Wow – you sure have a whole lotta hate going on in that comment. “New illegals” really chaps you – could it possibly be the color of their skin?
I love it when racist haters let their true feelings out. It smells so bad and they stink so much more.
granpa.usthai July 21st, 2014 at 18:03
some of the “new illegals” may possibly just be old US CITIZENS, John.
not you kid, not your problem may be OK with you,
but then,
you and the entire white racist gop corpse ain’t the entire Constitution.
Tear the Wall down, just like in Berlin, reunite families – we got a whole big legal system that has plenty of time to work things out.
or, you could always go back to Russia and start on a ‘new wall’.
Obewon July 21st, 2014 at 10:36
There is no “amnesty” bill in Boehner’s congress, nor is there any vote planned either. Any bill cites 15+ to 20 years before conveying U.S. citizenship to undocumented immigrants with required measurements verifying Border control. If you read the article and link, then you’d see why everyone is always laughing at Limbots like Cruz’ latest delusions de jour.
Reagan’s Amnesty to 12 million never secured the border as promised. Why? Your handlers won’t tell you census facts that the US birthrate is far less than the required 2.1 birth-replacement rate, therefore requiring immigrants for economic uplift and population stability, or growth. “data from the National Center for Health Statistics show that the TFR dropped to 1.9 in 2010—well below the replacement level of 2.1.” http://www.prb.org/Publications/Datasheets/2012/world-population-data-sheet/fact-sheet-us-population.aspx
2, “Immigrants make up 15% of all workers and even larger shares of certain occupations such as construction, food services and health care. Approximately 40% of Ph.D. scientists working in the United States were born abroad. (Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics; American Community Survey)”
3. “immigrants and their descendants would contribute about $80,000 more in taxes (in 1996 dollars) than they would receive in public services. (Source: Smith and Edmonston)”-Via GWB that Tarter voted for twice. http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/cea/cea_immigration_062007.html
Dwendt44 July 21st, 2014 at 12:16
Of course, with a shrinking jobs and the trend to low wages and zero benefits, we could use a declining population.
to bad the world population isn’t shrinking. We cannot sustain 7 billion people forever.
William July 21st, 2014 at 11:00
“But amnesty is just what Obama and many Dems have in mind”.
Good ‘ol Tater (or whatever LL I.D. he’s using today). Playing that tired ‘ol Limbaugh shtick telling us what people “think”.
M D Reese July 21st, 2014 at 12:00
Indeed! Geez–you’d think that this country was BUILT by immigrants! Oh wait…
BanditBasheert July 21st, 2014 at 13:22
Limpballs has “schtick”? Seriously? I thought it took Viagra and Oxycontin and his rages were acted out on his little boy sex trips to the Dominican Republic – I thought that’s the only time his “schtick” could work.
William July 21st, 2014 at 13:34
Not true. Rush is a big supporter of traditional marriage…..
granpa.usthai July 21st, 2014 at 18:32
THANK YOU AMERICAN GRANPAWIL, and I’d also like to add:
FREEZE ALL OFFSHORE BANK ACCOUNTS HELD BY US CITIZENS UNTIL A FULL PUBLIC DISCLOSURE IS POSTED.
not my bank account
not my f’ing problem.
arc99 July 21st, 2014 at 11:11
your post pure unadulterated lying bullsh*t.
so now you know what Dems “have in mind”? you have psychic mind-reading powers? there is no public record of President Regan admitting any error. There is only unconfirmed second-hand information from Ed Meese.
and what the f*ck is an Alinksyite?
William July 21st, 2014 at 13:19
Reagan….the great myth of the right wing Fox sheeple.
BanditBasheert July 21st, 2014 at 13:19
It’s almost funny, how the lunatic haters have all their panties in a wad imagining waves of BROWN people overwhelming their WHITE country. Who cares what color or ethnicity people are? This hatred is directed at people of color, no matter how they deny it.
Cruz is the worst – his father came here in 1978 and refused to take citizenship until 2005 when his screwball son managed to get elected. But the Cruz family would deny even political refugees (sort of “do as I say but not as I did”) – the whole family is filled with nuts.
ShelleysLeg July 21st, 2014 at 20:07
NO his father came in 1957 and took OUR money to go to UT then migrated to Canada for DECADES! He didn’t even apply for US citizenship until 2004/2005.
That was AFTER he fought side by side with the scourge of Cuba, Fidel Castro, that ‘commie’ we have sanctioned since the 1960s.
granpa.usthai July 21st, 2014 at 18:23
infinity to 1 any “new illegal” that has made it to the border of Libertyland has endured more dangers and hardship than any groups of the white trash that has gathered along the border to face combat with pre K children – and yet these children are still willing to come to OUR schools, live in OUR racist society, work to be producers not REDUCERS!
NEVER! in OUR HISTORY has there ever been a more dedicated and loyal to the principles of these United States than those standing at our southern gateway today.
Let some of them in?
HELL!
I say roll out a red carpet 2,500 miles wide by 1,000 miles long!!!
If we start to get crowded, we could always throw the overly spoiled do nothing worthless white racist republican privileged class out on their lazy behinds! They’ll be much happier with their half naked half pint former KGB chipmunk wider or overly plump PDRK bestest friend anyway.
BanditBasheert July 21st, 2014 at 13:15
Wow – you sure have a whole lotta hate going on in that comment. “New illegals” really chaps you – could it possibly be the color of their skin?
I love it when racist haters let their true feelings out. It smells so bad and they stink so much more.
granpa.usthai July 21st, 2014 at 17:57
Presidente del Senor
Los Estados Unidos de America
TIRE ABAJO ESTE MURO!
granpa.usthai July 21st, 2014 at 17:57
Presidente del Senor
Los Estados Unidos de America
TIRE ABAJO ESTE MURO!
granpa.usthai July 21st, 2014 at 18:03
some of the “new illegals” may possibly just be old US CITIZENS, John.
not you kid, not your problem may be OK with you,
but then,
you and the entire white racist gop corpse ain’t the entire Constitution.
Tear the Wall down, just like in Berlin, reunite families – we got a whole big legal system that has plenty of time to work things out.
or, you could always go back to Russia and start on a ‘new wall’.