DISASTER IN YEMEN: Ban on all further US antiterrorist operations
Yemen’s government has pulled permission for US troops to undertake antiterrorist operations in the aftermath of a catastrophically inept operation that killed a large number of women and children – including an 8-year-old American girl:
Angry at the civilian casualties incurred last month in the first commando raid authorized by President Trump, Yemen has withdrawn permission for the United States to run Special Operations ground missions against suspected terrorist groups in the country, according to American officials.
Grisly photographs of children apparently killed in the crossfire of a 50-minute firefight during the raid caused outrage in Yemen. A member of the Navy’s SEAL Team 6, Chief Petty Officer William Owens, was also killed in the operation.
While the White House continues to insist that the attack was a “success” — a characterization it repeated on Tuesday — the suspension of commando operations is a setback for Mr. Trump, who has made it clear he plans to take a far more aggressive approach against Islamic militants.
It also calls into question whether the Pentagon will receive permission from the president for far more autonomy in selecting and executing its counterterrorism missions in Yemen, which it sought, unsuccessfully, from President Barack Obama in the last months of his term.
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By: dave-dr-gonzo
David Hirsch, a.k.a. Dave "Doctor" Gonzo*, is a renegade record producer, video producer, writer, reformed corporate shill, and still-registered lobbyist for non-one-percenter performing artists and musicians. He lives in a heavily fortified compound in one of Manhattan's less trendy neighborhoods.
* Hirsch is the third person to use the pseudonym, a not-so-veiled tribute to journalist and author Hunter S. Thompson, with the permission of his predecessors Gene Gaudette of American Politics Journal (currently webmaster and chief bottlewasher at Liberaland) and Stephen Meese at Smashmouth Politics.
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mea_mark February 8th, 2017 at 10:01
America should be banned. With tRump as president and with our military we will be the worst terrorist on the planet. The entire world should ban us, we now deserve it for electing an idiot to the highest level of government.
halfwayin February 8th, 2017 at 14:03
Great idea, asshole!
Are you going to ban me for disagreeing with you?
Gina Bousquet February 8th, 2017 at 14:07
You shouldn’t disrespect Mark just because you disagree. He’s as much against this government as you are.
halfwayin February 8th, 2017 at 15:43
It is impossible for me to respect a power hungry mod like asshole mark.
You see Gina, I am one of those guys that your mother warned you about.
I don’t believe that morons that do not want to want the truth to be heard should have power over us.
And I will bet you agree with me.
3 ”””2””’ 1 ……post deleted by mea.
mea_mark February 8th, 2017 at 15:48
I did warn you, good bye.
oldfart February 9th, 2017 at 01:15
“He’s as much against this government as you are”
I engage tRump supporters all the time. Everyone of them speak of how they hate the government. when I tell them, so do I,
DESPITE the fact they know I do not support Trump, they seem more willing to “talk”. many of them do not buy into what he is doing, many say they’re giving him a chance but lord help him if he blows it.
I see a potential commonality, despite political polarization, worthy of exploring.
But I still fear we’re ALL going to get F’ed over one way or the other, in the mean time. SBT
Gina Bousquet February 9th, 2017 at 06:28
Hi dear friend! I actually only said that because I was under the impression he was a Hills supporter who had a feud with Mark because of Sanders or Mark’s decision to vote for Jill Stein. He wrote on another thread about his ban from Alan. com. I did not see him as a Trump supporter. :)
oldfart February 10th, 2017 at 08:51
Hello Gina, yes I understood that to be the case. I was addressing your other point you had made. My wife and I just recently joined Facebook and I have been amazed how many of my very old friends from high school are tRump supporters. Your comment had reminded me of the many conversations I have been having lately.
(I did not want to get into the feud with either mark or the person formerly known as anothertoothpick.)
Gina Bousquet February 10th, 2017 at 10:42
Oh my god!! Our dear anothertoothpick was banned????!!!! I didn’t know it was him! That’s unbelievable!! I’m so sorry!! Did he have a feud with Mark?! I would never have spoken against him. I have tears in my eyes. Thank you
for telling me.
oldfart February 10th, 2017 at 12:31
Disclaimer note !!
at least that is what I believe to be the person. I had caught several comments from him, albeit from another name, in other topics, asking to be allowed back in Alan’s site with his original name. I would go back and try to find the comments to assure both myself and you of it’s factuality but the ultimate outcome will remain the same.
There was bad blood and too much snark during the primaries and general. He was warned and crossed the line anyway…
I am sorry if I have made you upset. Please know that that was not my intention and please accept my apologies if this has been a very bad case of confusion on my part.
Gina Bousquet February 10th, 2017 at 13:51
You were very helpful my friend, anothertoothpick is a dear friend as well and I talked to him as ‘halfwayin’ without knowing who it was him, thus carelessly, as if to a stranger. I’d like to help him.
oldfart February 10th, 2017 at 12:37
found one here you go
Get well soon Alan.
I am anothertoothpick and I have been banned from this website.
Even though I have thousands of upvotes and have been here for many years.
Gina Bousquet February 10th, 2017 at 13:44
Oh, thank you so much dear, I’ll try to put a good word for him, I’ll email it to Alan, if possible.
mea_mark February 8th, 2017 at 15:28
No, but I will delete your comment.
halfwayin February 8th, 2017 at 15:37
Just like McConnel huh?
You have too much miss displaced power.
Buford2k11 February 8th, 2017 at 15:59
ummm…nope, wrong…not mark…so, halfwayin’, don’t be so republican…
mea_mark February 8th, 2017 at 16:18
Those on the right of the democratic party just can’t handle the fact that their candidate lost. If the democratic party is going to survive, they are going to have to take care of the people, not the oligarchy and the corporations. It’s time for the party re orient itself. The McGovern loss was a long time ago. The progressive ideas back then are more doable and acceptable now. If the dems want to win, it’s time to get back to that and to take care of the people.
Buford2k11 February 8th, 2017 at 18:28
that seems to be the Democratic Party Platform…while not perfect, is way better then the republican party platform…It is not even close…and yes, this is about the people, us, you, me, and the morons who voted for trump…
I was thinking about these folks who we always talk about, “voting against their best interests”, we know who they are, but not, Why they are…the problem seems to be the candidate/office holder who always votes against his/her constituents best interests….it is here where the problem resides…and it is here, where the media has failed us…we now know just how, ummm, ahhh, stupid the gop base is…they are easily mislead and fooled…so, logic dictates the problem is the gop leadership/party as a whole…
I suppose my long winded point is…the gop has taken cynical advantage of an easily fooled, and easily mislead electorate…to all of our dismay…
Robert M. Snyder February 9th, 2017 at 00:16
“I was thinking about these folks who we always talk about, “voting against their best interests””
What makes you so certain that you know what is in their best interests? People’s interests and concerns go way beyond economics. I live in rural America, in coal country as it happens. We get all of the major news channels, and we watch them. We also have high-speed internet, and we use it. At any demonstration or counter-demonstration you are likely to find some people who confirm the ugly stereotypes about rural people. But those people are not representative of rural America. You need to look beyond the stereotypes. If you spent any time with my friends and neighbors, I think you would find them reasonably well-informed and not easily duped. Just because you don’t like their voting decisions doesn’t mean that they haven’t put as much thought into the process as you.
Buford2k11 February 9th, 2017 at 07:59
I am a retired coal miner of 27 years…I live in coal country as well…
your question of how do I know what is in their best efforts, is a typical troll question, but I am assuming you are not a troll…I don’t know what these folks are thinking…but I can make a very good guess, because I do live, and work with coal miners, as to what is in our best interests…I know what would be good for me, I know will be good for them…Tax breaks for the wealthy? that does not do one good thing for us…period…yet they voted for a republican agenda, that hurts all of us, not just them…I have found the folks around here have been duped by Fox not the news…the last of the big mines has been partially reclaimed and will never be reopened…My son is a coal miner, and he sees the truth of the gop, but he just shakes his head at his co-workers still voting against their best interests…so, getting back to stereotypes, what did you mean?
Robert M. Snyder February 9th, 2017 at 09:17
Every time I drive from my house to town, I pass the old company store that is now a beer distributor, and I pass dozens and dozens of deteriorating structures. Our local economic development authority has been trying for years to convince businesses to move to our region. It is a very difficult problem.
In 2006 I started an engineering club at my local school. We created an annual robotics contest that drew dozens of students from other districts in our region. It was moderately successful, but not a home run, and after eight years I had to stop because I wasn’t paying enough attention to my small business.
There are hundreds of small towns like mine that grew up around mining, timber, and other resources. If you say that coal is not the future, I would agree. But people need an alternative.
I run a software business. All I need is a good electricity supply and a good internet connection. Everyone in my region has both. So it seems to me that any high-tech company that is in the software business, or electronics, could easily relocate to a rural area. The big problem is finding workers with the right skill set.
I have wrestled for years with the question of how to stimulate young people in my region to take an interest in fields like engineering and science that will provide them with marketable skills. My own son is a CAD designer, but he had to move to a metro area to find job opportunities.
Is that the only solution? Does the government expect everyone living in rural areas to move to the cities and suburbs, and just let the rural areas wither on the vine?
It’s similar to the way many people look at Mexico and Guatemala. People assume that the problems in these areas are insurmountable, so the only solution they see is for the population to immigrate to America.
Maybe rural folks moving to American cities should be given refugee status.
Buford2k11 February 9th, 2017 at 09:31
we have one mine still operating, but the end is in sight…there is nothing being offered by anyone other than a weak government re-training program…otherwise, we are on our own…there are no corporate training centers, there are no private training centers, there is only what un-employment offers, or a some small government program that is limited in scope, and funding…
Hillary covered this, but not in the way that some of the less educated could understand…and the gop is dead set against anything that is good to help the folks who have lost their jobs to market forces, not the fake war on coal…coal is still needed to make steel…there are products made from coal, but that is limited…they are hanging their hopes on a false entity in trump and the gop….they lied to get votes, and the folks around here are finally starting to see that…I asked a couple of older, retired miners why they voted for trump…they told me because he was going to bring back coal mining…I said HUH? then I asked them how their Black Lung benefits are going…they are worried that there is talk of eliminating the BLB…so, then I pointed out, that it was the GOP majority in congress who wants to get rid of it, and the Democrats are trying to save it…they didn’t believe me…That is what I find to be a standard response to our political mess right now…
Obewon February 9th, 2017 at 09:56
Do you think fossil fuel Bob Synder knows Solar and wind turbines are the fastest growing businesses? Thin film solar generates power on rainy and cloudy days. Solar employs twice as many as coal & oil. http://www.thesolarfoundation.org/national/ https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1ab880d54cc84f667006ebee79656d12382f748b55384e1efba704025e2a5a21.jpg
bpollen February 8th, 2017 at 16:29
I think your record is stuck…
Robert M. Snyder February 8th, 2017 at 19:12
If you’re going to classify this raid as “terrorism”, then how would you classify Obama’s use of drone strikes?
http://yalejournal.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Drone-470×320.png
Obewon February 8th, 2017 at 19:26
Loser Bush Jr launched very few strikes. You’ve been proven this before e.g GWB / Cheney’s collateral damage (Civilian KIA’s were up to 50% per strike.) BHO44’s collaterals were 5% to 10% per strike with Many more EKIA’s e.g “Geronimo EKIA” – Enemy Killed In Action. Bin Laden Dead. Snyder soon to follow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pzcsVNVvDo
Obewon February 8th, 2017 at 20:06
Robert Synder debunked again via my source, now R.S.’ source: Bush launched about 60 strikes in Somalia, Pakistan and Yemen, according to data from the New America Foundation, killing a maximum of about 400 militants. Obama, on the other hand, has launched more than 500 strikes in those three countries, killing anywhere between 2,700 and 4,000 militants.
The heaviest covert drone warfare has taken place in Afghanistan, with about 1,000 strikes there as of 2014, according to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism. In 2015 and 2016, the Air Force reported more than 500 strikes combined. Via nonpartisan Pulitzer Prize winner PolitiFact. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/apr/18/who-killed-more-terrorists-obama-or-bush/
mea_mark February 8th, 2017 at 20:30
Questionable. At least he tried to think things through to see what the end result would be. In general we need to get away from tearing other countries and cultures down and start building them up. We need more friends and less enemies.
Robert M. Snyder February 8th, 2017 at 21:30
“we need to get away from tearing other countries and cultures down and start building them up”
I searched using Google for the following phrases (with the quotes):
“Muslim culture” – 481,000 hits
“Christian culture” – 510,000 hits
“Jewish culture” – 557,000 hits
“urban culture” – 492,000 hits
“rural culture” – 278,000 hits
“liberal culture” – 157,000 hits
“conservative culture” – 125,000 hits
It would appear that large numbers of people consider Christian, rural, and conservative to be cultures.
I agree with you. I am truly in favor of building up other countries and cultures. But doesn’t that suggest that alan.com (and conservative sites of the same ilk) are part of the problem, and not part of the solution?
Maybe it’s time for some new blogs that take a different approach. Instead of tearing down the opposition, maybe it’s time to acknowledge that within America there are many subcultures. Each one surely has its faults. But instead of amplifying and mocking those differences, maybe we should be building up one another. I am serious about this.
mea_mark February 8th, 2017 at 21:35
One of the reasons I campaign for basic income is because it is exactly that. It lifts all people and all cultures. I keep hoping the democratic party will get behind that as a unifying force. If they do, I think they can win and win big. The oligarchy and the .001% may not like it, but the people will.
Robert M. Snyder February 8th, 2017 at 22:24
I would be willing to have that discussion. I have reservations about it, but I also recognize that the world is changing. A century ago, my grandfather grew up on a dairy farm where many tasks required human muscle power. He didn’t have a farm of his own, but when he retired, he bought a house along the edge of a working farm. He often commented on how much less manual work was needed today. That shift was mainly due to mechanization.
But mechanization only replaced human muscle power. It did not replace human brain power. We still needed people to operate the machines. Now that, too, is changing.
The biggest question in my mind is not whether it is possible to provide a basic income. I am intrigued by the thought of robots performing most of the work, and people having lots more free time to pursue their interests.
But we carry within us a lot of behaviors and proclivities that have been shaped by evolution, and are not likely to change. A lot of elderly folks say that they need a sense of purpose. They have an emotional need to be useful to other people. In the old days, work fulfilled that need for most people. As work become increasingly optional, will people feel as if they have anything useful to offer?
Of course it is easy to say that people just have to get creative. But I have had that conversation with several elderly relatives. What I have found is that people are not infinitely flexible. If a person is good at knitting and likes to do it, they may derive great satisfaction from knitting sweaters for grandchildren and friends. But if their vision fails or they get terrible arthritis, and you suggest that they find other ways to make themselves useful, they may be reluctant.
It is hard for people to make big changes. People are not infinitely flexible, and learning new skills is hard work. That’s part of the reason why out-of-work coal miners would prefer to keep mining instead of learning how to program a computer. It’s just too big of a leap.
We’ve got big challenges ahead. Trump scares me. But what scares me even more is the animosity between some people on the right and left, between some rural and urban folks, and between some people of different religions.
My wife is an RN and we live and work in a semi-rural part of PA. I recently asked her whether she ever observed coworkers arguing about politics. She couldn’t remember ever seeing that. She works in the neighboring county. In that county, Romney beat Obama by a mere 20 votes, and Clinton beat Trump by a couple of percentage points. So there is a lot of political diversity. If you make five good friends at work whom you respect, chances are pretty good that one or two of them belong to the opposite political party.
I read that some voting precincts in Philadelphia and Cleveland had exactly zero Republican votes. If you don’t know any Muslims personally, it may be harder to see beyond the stereotypes. Likewise, if you don’t know any Republicans personally…
mea_mark February 9th, 2017 at 08:04
I thought this was a really good read about the subject … Why the Left’s Next Best Step Is a Basic Income
https://medium.com/basic-income/why-the-lefts-next-best-step-is-a-basic-income-2f39cc102ba7#.4hms1kd2m Highly recomend it.
Obewon February 8th, 2017 at 10:08
This is what happens when dumb people vote for you, and you puritans don’t vote for either of the two parties, in our two party winner system.
Anarchists enabled dimmest Trump’s catastrophically inept operation that killed a large number of women and children – including an 8-year-old American girl and SEAL Team 6 William Owens. Next-up: some clown describes how this is great for ending Americas constitutional democracy. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/05c0eb3f467504cd0f0fcd5d276353b84f363ae9b89b2306353e29acc2e7258f.jpg
mea_mark February 8th, 2017 at 10:28
What we have is more like a constitutional representative republic. The constitution protects the people but our democracy is limited to representation. Direct voting by the public for laws does not exist. Our representatives through a republic cast our votes for us.
Obewon February 8th, 2017 at 10:34
Switzerland had Direct democracy via the town square voting system. You don’t. U.S. Government type: “constitutional federal republic”
Switzerland Government type: “federal republic (formally a confederation)”
U.S. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html
Swiss https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sz.html
mea_mark February 8th, 2017 at 11:09
Maybe a better description is, ‘constitutional federal (representative) republic.
wpadon February 8th, 2017 at 12:30
President Pussy Grabber will forget what he was talking about by the time he uttered “constitutional federal representative republic”. Hehe you said re-pubic. ;)
The Original Just Me February 8th, 2017 at 12:42
Very well understood.
halfwayin February 8th, 2017 at 14:01
What we have here is America’s fascination for goofy politicians.
A loon reality host is now president.
Who did YOU cast your vote for?
Please remind us.
mea_mark February 8th, 2017 at 15:29
All I will say is, I didn’t vote for the evil one.
The Original Just Me February 8th, 2017 at 12:41
But the Coal Miners Voted in Block Force.
Willys41 February 8th, 2017 at 18:39
Talking about people who can’t see the writing on the wall . . .
The Original Just Me February 8th, 2017 at 22:51
Mine wall or Colon Wall ???
robert February 8th, 2017 at 18:06
I’m waiting for Afghanistan to drop out and decline help from the USA.
They did it twice to gwb after some of our troops were ambushed
The Original Just Me February 8th, 2017 at 12:40
Do you think that means anything to Prickident Trump ???
Gina Bousquet February 9th, 2017 at 06:30
Not really! :)
The Original Just Me February 9th, 2017 at 10:56
In Prickident Trump’s case that would be Not Reality. Good Morning
Gina Bousquet February 9th, 2017 at 14:20
Good one!! Good morning O.! :)
The Original Just Me February 9th, 2017 at 15:40
52 F. today WhooWee !!!!!
Gina Bousquet February 9th, 2017 at 15:56
No idea, I’m used to Celsius. Is it a bit like Spring?
The Original Just Me February 9th, 2017 at 20:32
about 12 C Feels GOOD
Gina Bousquet February 9th, 2017 at 23:11
During a snowy winter season must feel real good. Is it sunny?
The Original Just Me February 10th, 2017 at 01:07
It’s still cloudy and raining some but the temp feels nice. Now, it seems there is another bad storm coming our way from California. We have been having quite a bit of flooding but nothing real bad YET.
Gina Bousquet February 10th, 2017 at 08:52
I hope the storm coming from California won’t reach you, enjoy your taste of Spring dear! :)
The Original Just Me February 10th, 2017 at 14:01
If you will come and visit Me, we will jump in My Motor Home and run away from all of this . :+)
Gina Bousquet February 10th, 2017 at 15:09
Deal! :)
The Original Just Me February 11th, 2017 at 04:17
Oh, if only my life was different. I wish my wife no ill but it would be nice to have someone I could just sit down and talk with. Her dementia is beyond that now days.
Gina Bousquet February 11th, 2017 at 10:11
I’m very sorry O., both for her condition amd for what it mrams to you. But I’ll tell you one thing– if it’s any consolation– I also live knowing the best days are already gone. That’s tough.
The Original Just Me February 11th, 2017 at 12:56
The best days are not always gone. Those were just Good days. The best thing about being human is knowing there is another bend in the road ahead and being curious enough to peek around the corner to find out what is there. :+)
Gina Bousquet February 11th, 2017 at 13:01
Then I lost this….:)
The Original Just Me February 11th, 2017 at 14:58
Here, I’ll give you a couple of mine :+) :+) plus a little Tickle Tickle. There did that help ? :+)
Gina Bousquet February 11th, 2017 at 15:16
It did, thank you! :)
Gina Bousquet February 8th, 2017 at 14:05
They are going to seek permission for more autonomy despite the foreign country decision to withdraw permission for the missions?!
Mike February 8th, 2017 at 14:23
Yemen has walked this claim back …
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/yemen-denies-ban-us-military_us_589b2736e4b0c1284f2990bf?kt2srg1e9p2vuz0k9&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
Gina Bousquet February 8th, 2017 at 16:20
Would they have received a phone call??
Willys41 February 8th, 2017 at 18:44
The military should start running bogus missions. Choppers lift off, fly around a couple of hours, return to base. Oh yeah, Mr. President, total success! Look at the videos!! We’ve got’em on the run!!! Trump’s pack of hyenas would never know the difference.