False patriotism: House Republicans have bill to defund colleges that remove American flag
House Republicans have introduced a bill that would prevent colleges that have banned the American flag from receiving federal funding. It started as a petition to defund schools that remove the flag, and on Friday, Rep. Mike Turner (R-Ohio) and 52 other House GOP members officially put forward legislation to do just that, calling it the…
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meherenow December 7th, 2016 at 06:48
Good. America has been embroiled in WAR for 15 years. People should start acting like it, and that includes not hurting this country during such a fragile time.
Budda December 7th, 2016 at 07:00
If in fact we are at war perhaps we should impose a war tax to pay for it. And how exactly is this ‘hurting’ this country? Perhaps you were mistakenly referring to your fragile, sensitive little sense of ‘patriotism’??
Red Mann December 7th, 2016 at 19:29
You mean like not attacking the President in the time of war? Oh that’s right, that only counts for Republican presidents. If you think this is a fragile time, wait until tRump is done with the country.
We are at war because of the RW impulse to attack first, ask questions later.
Carla Akins December 7th, 2016 at 06:49
“I am proud to introduce legislation that will protect the American flag from censorship across the country,”
No, it’s exactly the opposite. Perhaps a definition of censorship is in order here. What you are proposing is Nationalism.
Budda December 7th, 2016 at 06:57
Spot on! Nationalism indeed.
80HD December 7th, 2016 at 07:09
If you are willing to accept federal funds, shouldn’t you be willing to support who its from?
80HD December 7th, 2016 at 07:12
Just to clarify. All this spite isn’t helping anyone, doesn’t matter who is dishing it.
whatthe46 December 8th, 2016 at 03:01
you’ve gotta be white to make that comment. entitled much?
80HD December 8th, 2016 at 05:16
You should re read your comment, let me know if everything is correct.
whatthe46 December 8th, 2016 at 05:20
respond to this one:
you should care! why do you think we’re where we are? why don’t you explain to us, what is “petty nowadays.”
80HD December 8th, 2016 at 05:28
What is the goal of all of this?
And what do we need to actually do to fix things?
I don’t know, but what’s going on isn’t working.
Empathy is seriously lacking in the world today. Ridicule and spite are not the answer.
whatthe46 December 8th, 2016 at 05:53
i am not concerned about a flag in as much as i am concerned about what’s going on in our country. if the flag is so much of a big deal to you, then the state we’re in means nothing considering the violence. the flag is supposed to be representative of all Americans. but now, it’s only if you’re a bigot, racist and wealthy white man. and to go against it means you’re un-American. Obama is one of the greatest presidents to serve the people and who has respected the office and he gets no credit. and now, all of a sudden we’re suppose to bow down to the establishment that undermined him and the will of the people, by accepting and working with the likes of tRump? his cabinet and the GOPissers are full of racist and bigots and the truly hypocritical. so, tell me please, what is it that you find “petty?”
80HD December 8th, 2016 at 06:04
” the flag is supposed to be representative of all Americans.” This is correct, so to take it down seems counter productive.
The problem is society is more complex than the 2 teams you have to be placed in, I don’t know why, but we are moving away from unity.
“Obama gets no credit” that is through the narrow scope of media opinions, and the problem is that sensationalized click bait is easy for people to digest.
I think if you disagree with someone on one subject, it doesn’t mean that they are against everything you are, that is a big fallacy of today as well.
I myself see the flag as for all Americans.
My intention wasn’t to sound condescending or snide, I’m just frustrated that things are the way they are.
whatthe46 December 8th, 2016 at 06:17
“…so to take it down seems counter productive…” i disagree, in that it hasn’t been representative of everyone. unarmed American POC murdered by cops and get off scot free. a white cop shot an unarmed man in the back yards away from him, it’s a mistrial. that flag didn’t represent the victims. they received no justice. but, everyone will be up in arms if a minority sits or take a knee.
“it doesn’t mean that they are against everything you are,…”
and neither am i against everything they are for. but, in the case of the repukes, in 2016, i’m 100% certain, i’m against everything they are for. they are for acceptance of ignorance, bigotry, racism, etc., etc. and i am too, frustrated. 8 years we’ve had of a man who respected his job and this country. and now, here we have an ass who couldn’t give a damn about anyone unless they could contribute to his bank account. so, yeah, i’m a little pissed and i won’t apologize for it. if i read you wrong, that, i will apologize for.
80HD December 8th, 2016 at 06:31
I don’t take things to heart(This is the internet after all).
I am just here for the convo, I am not too much into politics and news( I am at work killing time).
Just like to see different perspectives.
whatthe46 December 8th, 2016 at 06:44
well, i do take things to heart. especially in this climate. 8 years of Obama and there were never any minority groups, parading around this country shouting at motorist that this is Obama land. no one ever spray painted derogatory messages on peoples cars or homes or businesses that said “black power.” no one ever decided that because we have a black president, that we’re going to start hanging white people. but, now we have this sick twisted imbecile who has followers that have murdered in his (trumps) name, assaulted in his name, etc. so, you don’t have to be involved in politics to know this is wrong. that he is wrong for this country. hell, for the entire world. when you say different perspectives, that, in my opinion, means looking over a cliff with a 1000 ft drop. it may look terrifying me, but, from your perspective, it looks like fun to fall that far. what perspective do you have regarding tRump? forget the politics of it. how about the humanity of it?
80HD December 8th, 2016 at 06:47
I only mean perspective as in I visit a lot of different sites.
Some are way out there, some are not.
The only thing that’s hard to tell is how real some of the people are.
whatthe46 December 8th, 2016 at 06:56
and you’ve gathered what thus far? here’s the thing about me, i don’t cater to racism, bigotry, or ignorance. i don’t care what religion you follow, as long as you respect others. i don’t care about the color of ones skin. i don’t care where you’re from. i don’t care who you love. but, if one has voted for tRump, i have absolutely NO respect for that person at all.
80HD December 8th, 2016 at 07:04
I gather you are fiery(I mean that as a positive).
But in all honesty I don’t know a whole lot about you.
whatthe46 December 8th, 2016 at 07:11
understood. that is, that you don’t know a lot about me. and i, don’t know a lot about you as well. know this though, i don’t like seeing people harmed for no reason. and i will stand up for anyone i see being disrespected. and a lot of the regulars here are the same. we’re good people. i hope you are as well.
80HD December 8th, 2016 at 07:16
If I was disrespectful I apologize. I do see the flag a representing us all.
But I can see the other side too, maybe that’s where the disconnect is.
StoneyCurtisll December 7th, 2016 at 07:16
So you think the flag represents the federal government?
80HD December 7th, 2016 at 07:31
I’m just saying a lot of things are petty nowadays. And I don’t really care either way. But yes that is the countries flag.
whatthe46 December 8th, 2016 at 03:00
you should care! why do you think we’re where we are? why don’t you explain to us, what is “petty nowadays.”
bpollen December 8th, 2016 at 00:12
In case you missed it, the flag is a cloth item, the country is not. Nor is the government or the flag the country we live in, the country I served and continue to serve. Nor is allegiance to your country a matter of how you treat the flag nor is allegiance to your country denied by the very exercising of the rights that country says you are entitled to.
You imply dissent or opposition isn’t supporting your government. Patrick Henry said “One opposes tyranny, or one enables it. There is no middle ground and time is not an ally. Wrapping tyranny in the flag and calling it security makes it no less evil..”
When you claim that supporting constitutional rights is NOT supporting the country BUILT on those principles, and that criticism of the government is somehow unpatriotic, you are a Groupthink supporter in favor of a denial of rights to those who hold unpopular opinions.
80HD December 8th, 2016 at 00:49
All I am saying is if someone is trying to prove a point, they may receive the same.
bpollen December 8th, 2016 at 00:55
The context you said it in is in response to making it ILLEGAL to prove your point. Free speech rights don’t mean that you are protected against other’s free speech rights, and that works both ways. You can express your disagreement with another American’s speech, but the gubmint deciding WHAT you can say is TYRANNY, not an American value.
80HD December 8th, 2016 at 02:10
I didn’t say it was right, all I meant was what is the purpose of banning the flag? and if you deal in nonsense you will get it in return.
My point is all of this is unnecessary. Now I don’t know the whole story but is the flag banned as in not allowed by anyone or just not put up by the school?
bpollen December 8th, 2016 at 02:29
The college campus GAVE their reason for doing so. You may nor agree with it, as you have amply demonstrated, but it is THEIR right to decide whether or not they would fly the flag AS a university. You know, one of the things about institutions of learning is that they place a premium on THINKING. If your battles are over symbols, you aren’t thinking about the issues, you’re bogged down in symbolism. When you spend all your time having fainting spells over HOW someone expresses a passionate opinion, there ain’t no time left to contemplate WHAT they are expressing and WHY they might think that.
StoneyCurtisll December 7th, 2016 at 07:19
Whats next?
Are we going to be forced to fly the flag from our front porch or suffer the consequences.
Dcbos December 7th, 2016 at 23:07
Reminds one of Sinclair Lewis’ quote “When socialism comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag carrying a cross”and Here we are and we can’t notice it because of all the SHINNEY objects thrown at us by the propagandizing bought off press.
bpollen December 7th, 2016 at 23:25
“…to protect the American flag from censorship…”
Your solution to “censorship” by individuals against the flag is to censor the free speech rights of those individuals? Defend our country by abridging the 1st Amendment cuz you don’t like what’s being said? Protect a SYMBOL at the cost of the civil rights of citizens who that symbol represents?
I’m sure the ACLU is already planning for the upcoming challenge.