Franklin Graham Quitting Republican Party

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The preacher son of Billy Graham is quitting because they voted to fund Planned Parenthood.

…Graham has announced he is abandoning the Republican Party in disgust over the move by the GOP-led Congress last week to pass a budget that Graham said was “wasteful” and provided funding for Planned Parenthood, which he compared to the Nazis.

Graham has previously said he has no faith in any political party, but his apparent renunciation of his Republican affiliation is an indication of anger on the right and the strong interest many disaffected evangelicals have shown in populist outsiders such as Donald Trump.

Graham himself has expressed admiration for Trump, the surprise front-runner in the Republican presidential field, and has voiced support for some of Trump’s more controversial positions — such as his call to ban Muslims from the U.S. — which have drawn condemnation from more mainstream evangelical leaders.

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301 responses to Franklin Graham Quitting Republican Party

  1. anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 16:51

    Let that be a lesson to you republtards

  2. aNYYANKEEinQueenHaleysCourt December 22nd, 2015 at 16:52

    One down….

  3. xxSJWxx December 22nd, 2015 at 16:53

    The fact that he “admires” Trump should tell you that this guy has ZERO moral character… like the MAJORITY of Evangelical wingnuts.

  4. Gindy51 December 22nd, 2015 at 16:58

    WAH, poor little man child can’t have what he wants so he takes his ball and goes home. Good.

  5. anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 17:05

    Republitards beware.

    If you scew up, people that god talks to will not like you anymore.

    And you know what that means…..don’t ya.

    • rg9rts December 22nd, 2015 at 17:15

      SHE is pissed

      • anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 17:21

        God is watching the republitards.

  6. rg9rts December 22nd, 2015 at 17:15

    Its not nazi enough for him LOL

    • tracey marie December 22nd, 2015 at 17:23

      go home and talk to richard!!!

  7. Budda December 22nd, 2015 at 17:30

    Who cares? He’s a nobody and the only people he may have influence on are dorks too.

  8. Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 17:35

    Good for Franklin Graham. Establishment elitist Republicans betrayed their base again with this move… just like Obama and Pelosi betrayed their base by:

    1. supporting congressional candidates who were ideologically pro-business and pro-war.

    2. failed to speak out against the pro-corporate and pro-Wall Street ethos of the Bush administration.

    3. failed to champion the interests of Blacks.

    4. failed to challenge the greed and materialism on Wall Street. Instead, he bailed out Wall Street but gave almost nothing to those losing their homes to avaricious financial lenders.

    5. Rather than ending the war in Afghanistan, he escalated it and left 50,000 troops as “advisers” in Iraq, publicly justifying his reliance on preemptive military force.

    6. He refused to push for a public option for health care and forced tens of millions of people to buy expensive health insurance.

    7. refused to punish those in the U.S. intelligence community who engaged in torture;

    8. invoked a “state secrets” rationale to allow U.S. executive branch leaders to unilaterally assassinate any American citizen they want without redress or due process (the al-Aulaqi case),

    9. appointed friends of the worst big agricultural firms to run his Department of Agriculture.

    Many progressives will make the foolish mistake of voting Democratic in November, despite all this.

    Rabbi Michael Lerner is right when he says:

    “What is actually needed is a third party that combines the kind of vision articulated in the Environmental and Social Responsibility Amendment (ESRA) to the U.S. Constitution, the policy directions of our Spiritual Covenant with America, the foreign policy direction shown in the Global Marshall Plan, and the love, compassion, generosity, and non-religiophobic discourse we’ve sought to develop in Tikkun. Lacking such a party, many progressives will find no other option for themselves but to grudgingly support the Democratic Party. Obama may be able to slip into office a second time in 2012 if the Republicans nominate one of their more horrendous leaders, but until the Democrats and Obama really atone for the directions they’ve taken, and embrace a spiritual progressive worldview, they are unintentionally but powerfully helping to build the kind of resentment and humiliation that has in the past become the psychological underpinning for the emergence of powerful fascistic movements from the right.”

    http://www.tikkun.org/nextgen/will-obama-stop-betraying-his-progressive-base

    • anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 17:46

      Does the rabbi sell indulgences?

      • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 18:12

        Are you an anti-religious bigot?

        • anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 18:14

          You fucking bet I am!

          • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 18:23

            i could tell you were a bigoted hater just by your tone, plus most other Maoist trolls on this site are also anti-religious bigoted haters, so its pretty obvious. You trolls running around preaching Chairman Mao’s ‘religion is poison’ hate propaganda don’t realize that your atheistic Cult of State is the most poisonous ‘religion’ of them all.

            • anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 18:25

              Who is chairman moa?

              • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 18:29

                Your daddy.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd0aW-4mV68

                • anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 18:31

                  Religious create way more problems than they solve. Look to the mideast lad. And then look to the deep south.

                  • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 18:35

                    Some religions do – atheism and Wahhabist Islam for example. some don’t – christianity for example. you are overgeneralizing and stereotyping. because that’s what haters like you do.

                    • arc99 December 22nd, 2015 at 18:38

                      So when Christians were burning people alive 500 years ago, or slaughtering each other in the streets of northern Ireland a few decades ago, it was not a problem?

                    • anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 18:49

                      It is not a problem because they were burning muslims and jews.

                    • FatRat December 22nd, 2015 at 18:51

                      Don’t forget the Pagans and bring some marshmallows. lol

                      http://dailygrindhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Wicky-Wicky-Why.jpg

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 18:59

                      on net Christianity has done more good than harm. sure some misguided Christians have done lots of harm. atheists under Stalin Mao and Polt did lots more harm – killing about 77 million people in less than 40 years.

                    • arc99 December 22nd, 2015 at 19:17

                      I would wager that the Lakota, Sioux, Cheyenne, Cherokee and numerous other tribes have a different opinion of the “net good” of Christianity

                      http://www.history.com/topics/native-american-history/trail-of-tears

                      At the beginning of the 1830s, nearly 125,000 Native Americans lived on millions of acres of land in Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, North Carolina and Florida–land their ancestors had occupied and cultivated for generations. By the end of the decade, very few natives remained anywhere in the southeastern United States. Working on behalf of white settlers who wanted to grow cotton on the Indians’ land, the federal government forced them to leave their homelands and walk thousands of miles to a specially designated “Indian territory” across the Mississippi River. This difficult and sometimes deadly journey is known as the Trail of Tears.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 20:47

                      “Many Christian missionaries, most notably missionary organizer Jeremiah Evarts, protested against passage of the Act. In Congress, New Jersey Senator Theodore Frelinghuysen and Tennessee Congressman Davy Crockett spoke out against the legislation. The Removal Act passed only after bitter debate in Congress.[15]” – wiki

                      “Daniel Webster and Henry Clay opposed the Indian Removal Bill, but its most bitterly outspoken opponent was Davy Crockett.”

                      https://www.apstudynotes.org/us-history/topics/indian-removal/

                      all 3 men were Christians.

                    • arc99 December 22nd, 2015 at 19:20

                      so Christians who do wrong are merely “misguided” ?

                      interesting that you extend that benefit of the doubt to Christians only.

                    • Dwendt44 December 22nd, 2015 at 19:56

                      While Hitler and Mussolini were misguided, they were christians in good standing and were sure they were doing gods work here on earth.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 20:26

                      uh not sure about Mussolini but its pretty clear from reading Mein Kampf that Hitler was cynically using Christianity and didn’t really believe it.

                    • anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 20:39

                      Oh, you mean like todays republicans?

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 21:34

                      over generalizing again… Yes some like McCain are definitely cynical users. some like Trey Gowdy are the real deal.

                    • Dwendt44 December 24th, 2015 at 00:02

                      Trey Gowdy is a fraud and a fake. He, like most of the rabid right wing nut jobs, use what ever works at getting him elected and re-elected.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 24th, 2015 at 06:56

                      source?

                    • EmilyEnso December 24th, 2015 at 07:12

                      I know you don’t like Trump.
                      But go to What Really Happened and scroll down to Trump on Serbia.
                      I haven’t posted the link because you need the English on WRH.
                      I have to hand it to him on this one!!!

                    • tracey marie December 24th, 2015 at 07:33

                      seems your another brietbart freak and bigot, do the 3 of you follow each other and upvote each others hate.you southern cross and aldous really need to reflect on your behavior and words, so much hate and ignorance is probably what caused your car accident.

                    • EmilyEnso December 24th, 2015 at 07:45

                      Another nasty little neo liberal nut case with a loathing of free speech.
                      Just get lost.
                      You are a total waste of space.
                      Stop snooping on others and find something constructive to write.
                      Though I doubt you are capable of rational thought.
                      Spite seems to be your forte.

                    • tracey marie December 24th, 2015 at 07:17

                      what is wrong with you? I have avoided responding to all your petty and angry comments, but damn…you really need to self evaluate and maybe mom will let you out of the basement.

                    • Bunya December 22nd, 2015 at 22:40

                      Although Hitler did not practice religion in a churchly sense,
                      he certainly believed in the Bible’s God.

                      “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance
                      with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself
                      against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”
                      – Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 20:25

                      I can show you the Christian doctrine that shows they were in fact, misguided. Can you show me atheist doctrine that shows Mao was misguided?

                    • Carla Akins December 22nd, 2015 at 20:26

                      Mao did not commit his atrocities in the name of Atheism.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 20:50

                      wrong.

                    • Carla Akins December 22nd, 2015 at 21:15

                      Did you attend high school?

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 22:27

                      so bitter.

                    • Bunya December 22nd, 2015 at 22:37

                      I find it interesting that someone who was indoctrinated to believe all Atheists are hate-filled Mao sympathizers, would cast aspersions on others.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 22:48

                      I never said all atheists are…. Just the anti-religious bigoted partisan hack hate filled atheists on this website who daily fill this comment section with their hate filled dribble. people like you (thanks for not hiding your comments so I could double check that you are indeed one of the haters)..

                    • Bunya December 22nd, 2015 at 23:01

                      Interesting, a hate-filled theist, with his hate-filled dribble, accusing someone else of being a hate-filled atheist. How very “Christian” of you.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 23:08

                      I’m not hate filled. I’m just calling a spade a spade. Come on are you seriously trying to deny you spew name calling diatribes daily??? Why should I tolerate that?

                    • Bunya December 23rd, 2015 at 10:11

                      Yes. I AM denying I “spew name calling diatribes” daily. You’re the only one here spewing the hatred. But that’s okay. You’re not the only “Christian” on this site who starts by insulting others, then when they return the favor, you cry “Christian persecution!”.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 23rd, 2015 at 10:30

                      Again, you said:

                      “Rick “man on dog” Santorum

                      “Trump is taking advice on how to deceive his fan base from Bill O’Reilly.

                      “Rubio… you are too chicken to take a stand.

                      “Hastert’s a puke, and deserves to suffer.

                      ” i thought that after Palin and Bachmann quit, that was the end of stupid women in government.

                      “I hope he’s sent, for years, to a “pounding in the ass” prison.”

                      hate-filled BS spewed daily.

                      I never cried ‘Christian persecution’ LIAR.

                    • Bunya December 23rd, 2015 at 12:07

                      That is my opinion. Rick Santorum wants to restrict women’s rights, Bill O’Reilly always misleads his viewers with incorrect videos (see OWS), Rubio IS too chicken to take a stand, which is why he was a no show, Hastert’s a pedophile, Palin and Bachmann are stupid (and Palin is a quitter). That’s not hate filled. That’s fact.
                      .
                      You didn’t have to cry “Christian persecution”. It’s only a common assumption with you hate-filled “Christians”. You attack others and when they respond, Christians respond with “you hate all Christians”. We don’t. We just hate the idiotic Christians who like to visit left wing sites and start spewing vitriol without provocation.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 23rd, 2015 at 00:02

                      Why does anyone here tolerate the name calling hate-filled diatribes spewed on this website daily???

                      crickets.

                      you all tolerate it daily because you are all haters daily.

                    • Bunya December 23rd, 2015 at 10:30

                      You poor dear. Why does everyone hate you? Why are liberals constantly casting aspersions upon you? What did you possibly do to deserve such ungodly treatment? It must be your impeccable “Christian” attitude that we find so abhorrent. Why are Christians so vilified? So maligned?

                    • Aldous Huxley December 23rd, 2015 at 10:34

                      actually it’s mostly partisan hatred you and others here spew, with a significant minority of anti-religious hatred.

                    • Bunya December 23rd, 2015 at 12:11

                      You poor dear. Are we upsetting you with our anti-religious comments? I have a cure for that. Stop coming here and instigating arguments with your hate-filled, unsubstantiated accusations. Perhaps you’d like to visit O’Reilly’s site, or Breitbart’s site. I’m sure you’ll find their brand of vitriol more to your liking.

                    • whatthe46 December 22nd, 2015 at 23:04

                      please enlighten us on how painful it is to be stupid. seriously, you’re so good at it.

                    • Bunya December 22nd, 2015 at 22:35

                      Really? Where does it say Mao committed his atrocities in the name of Atheism? I’d really like to know what Atheist “god” he praised.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 23:02

                      atheist propaganda was all over Mao’s China. on the walls of schools, orphanages. in his speeches. on the you really lost any intellectual credibility when you try to divorce the 2.

                      here are a couple links on the Mao Cult.

                      http://chineseposters.net/themes/mao-cult.php

                      http://www.truefreethinker.com/sites/default/files/images/communism%2C%20atheism%2C%20imagine%20no%20religion%2C%20Joseph%20Stalin%2C%20Martin%20Niem%C3%B6ller%2C%20Mao%20Zedong.jpg

                      “Millions of people in China were violently persecuted during the Cultural Revolution. Those identified as spies, “running dogs”, “revisionists”, or coming from a suspect class such as landlords or rich peasants were subject to measures such as beating, imprisonment, rape, torture, sustained and systematic harassment and abuse, seizure of property and erasure of social identity. At least hundreds of thousands of people were murdered, starved or worked to death.Millions more were forcibly displaced. Young people from the cities were forcibly moved to the countryside, where they were forced to abandon all forms of standard education in place of the propaganda teachings of the Communist Party of China..”

                      http://histomil.com/viewtopic.php?t=11400

                      Here’s another good collection of propaganda posters inciting violence and showing Mao as a godlike figure presiding over:

                      https://www.pinterest.com/billmatyskela/a-century-of-revolution/

                    • Dwendt44 December 23rd, 2015 at 23:59

                      I see no indication or avocation of Atheism in any of those pictures.

                      All they seem to do is brag up Mao and his revolution. And the above picture of Stalin is a phony, he never used that phrase.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 24th, 2015 at 07:27

                      like this one with the giant atheism smashing the tiny crucifix???

                      https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mao's+atheist+propaganda+posters+reliogion&iax=1&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m5flzhX4HW1rubozqo1_400.png

                    • Carla Akins December 24th, 2015 at 09:55

                      The one from a website titled “Most ineffective propoganda”. Communism doesn’t recognize religion – we get it. It still is just a means to an end, not the reason for his actions. Atheism did not drive him to commit these acts.

                      By the same token you can say Sharia law which has no tolerance for other religions has led to atrocities. (fact) As long as you continue to push the idea of your religion being the “only correct religion” and your “one true god” is somehow the answer – rational, thinking folks will push back.

                      Extremists of all stripes are bad news and right now, that includes you. Seriously, your obsession on this thread bears the hallmarks of someone that truly needs to seek mental health care.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 28th, 2015 at 10:09

                      I’m the extremist? I’m not the one trying to create a false dichotomy between the communism and the atheism of Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, and Pol Pot. Carla – You are.

                      When your fellow Liberland posters daily write hate-filled rants against republicans and non-atheists, they are the ones pushing the “only correct worldview” and “one true godless universe” ideology.

                      Get some mental help for you schizophrenic projection issues Carla.

                    • Carla Akins December 28th, 2015 at 14:24

                      Right…because I am still ranting about this subject

                    • whatthe46 December 28th, 2015 at 14:30

                      LOL

                    • Aldous Huxley December 28th, 2015 at 15:16

                      actually yes, you are.

                    • Carla Akins December 28th, 2015 at 17:35

                      Comprehension, it’s a thing. I have not commented on the story in days, I’ve only replied to your direct comment. You do understand the difference, right?

                    • F_cons December 28th, 2015 at 17:47

                      You do know you’re tilting at windmills with these “people” right?

                    • Carla Akins December 28th, 2015 at 19:54

                      Yeah, mostly I ignore but every once in a while I feel the need to push back against the lies.

                    • F_cons December 28th, 2015 at 19:56

                      And your comments are appreciated and hoped for!

                    • Mark Johnson December 29th, 2015 at 07:59

                      “I expected the bad behavior from the sociopaths stalking and harassing me but I honestly expected more from my local news..” Stalking and harassing – I push back against these lies.

                    • Carla Akins December 29th, 2015 at 08:41

                      Hmmm, I may be at the mercy of the moderators at KMBC but that’s not the case here. I am stunned at the pathetic level folks will go to in order to call names, attempt to demean and besmirch one’s reputation for what I can only determine is no valid reason.

                      I guess being unemployed leaves you folk with a tremendous amount of free time. It’s unfortunate you don’t put the time to good use helping others less fortunate. Regardless, you are done here – at least in your current incarnation. Don’t come back, find a job, a hobby, god, I don’t care but harassing women online, following them from website to website is called stalking and in Missouri – illegal.

                    • whatthe46 December 28th, 2015 at 15:26

                      looks like you’ve got a stalker. geez.

                    • Carla Akins December 28th, 2015 at 17:37

                      You do not have any understanding on projection, schizophrenia or you wouldn’t make those statements. Keep it up and you’ll be blacklisted. I am done with the conversation – don’t address me directly again on this topic.

                    • arc99 December 22nd, 2015 at 20:43

                      since Christian doctrine is based on books written centuries ago, it matters little what your opinion of that doctrine is.

                      the Christians who committed atrocities were reading the very same Old and New Testament as you. in their opinion, they were not misguided at all and were following god’s law.

                      here, a sitting judge uses his religion to justify his 1965 decision upholding a verdict that convicted two people of a felony for the heinous crime of interracial marriage.

                      this judge certainly did not think he was misguided.

                      other than lack of belief in a supernatural deity, there is no atheist doctrine. an atheist serial killer and an atheist pacifist who would harm no one are both atheists. asking for an atheist “doctrine” is like asking for a doctrine common to all people who have decided not to get married. other than not having a spouse, there is no doctrine.

                      http://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/opinion_of_judge_leon_m_bazile_january_22_1965

                      Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his [arrangement] there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.

                    • Bunya December 22nd, 2015 at 22:32

                      Atheists don’t have a “doctrine”. Common sense guides them. And common sense shows that Mao was an evil dictator. It doesn’t take an imaginary god to prove that.

                    • Jack E Raynbeau December 23rd, 2015 at 09:38

                      Atheist doctrine? Not too bright, eh?

                    • Dwendt44 December 22nd, 2015 at 19:53

                      Nice exaggeration. Many of those died due to drought and starvation due to war. Stalin did attend seminary and studied for the priesthood.
                      Those authoritarian regimes used atheism as a tool not as a guide or as an incidental think process.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 20:22

                      Those were largely man made famines created by stupid communist policies.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 21:36

                      wrong. both atheism and anti-theism were part and parcel with communist doctrine from the days of Karl Marx. Atheism’s nihilism justified their brutality.

                      Atheistic Communists like Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were the ones who tried to force their atheistic beliefs on ‘the collective’ thru state prisons, public executions of priests, propaganda, and atheistic indoctrination in mandatory public schools and massive State orphanages. The Communists allegedly even had public school teachers push students to indoctrinate their parents, and report resistive parents to communist Party officials, who would then imprison the parents. today the Left has half a million trolls running around the internet pushing Chairman Mao’s “Religion is poison” propaganda meme.

                      The Right’s alleged much over hyped ‘War on Women’ isfar less real than the Left’s ‘War on Religion.’ Both so-called ‘wars’ are hyperbole propaganda memes in the information war. But as a result of the Left’s war on religion in the US alone, they have ‘successfully’ killed 57 million living babies, eliminated prayer from school, changed the definition of marriage which is a fundamental building block of society, weakened the family structure, brainwashed a generation into believing we are more closely related to monkeys than we are created in God’s image, and all but chased religious symbols out of the public square.

                      This quote by Stalin about Lenin is the most one of the most troubling of many i could cite:

                      “There were some queer people at that time in our Party who thought that Lenin had come to realise the necessity of combating the Church only in 1921 (laughter) — that he had not realised it until then. That, of course, was silly, comrades. Lenin, of course, realised the necessity of combating the Church before 1921 too. But that was not the point. The point was to link a broad mass anti-religious campaign with the struggle for the vital interests of the masses, and to conduct it in such a way that it was understood by the masses and supported by them.”

                      Obviously not everyone on the left is an atheist or a communist, and not all atheists are communists – that’s not what I’m trying to say at all. But the raw partisan hatred and unapologetic anti-religious bigotry evinced in the comment section of this site day after day makes it pretty clear you leftists are a lot closer to Chairman Mao than to George McGovern.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 20:37

                      Atheistic Communists like Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were the ones who tried to force their atheistic beliefs on ‘the collective’ thru Gulags, public executions of priests, propaganda, and atheistic indoctrination in mandatory public schools and massive State orphanages. The Communists allegedly even had public school teachers push students to indoctrinate their parents, and report resistive parents to communist Party officials, who would then imprison the parents. today the Left has half a million trolls running around the internet pushing Chairman Mao’s “Religion is poison” propaganda meme.

                      The Right’s alleged much over hyped ‘War on Women’ isfar less real than the Left’s ‘War on Religion.’ Both so-called ‘wars’ are hyperbole propaganda memes in the information war. But as a result of the Left’s war on religion in the US alone, they have ‘successfully’ killed 57 million living fetuses, eliminated prayer from school, changed the definition of marriage which is a fundamental building block of society, weakened the family structure, brainwashed a generation into believing we are more closely related to monkeys than we are created in God’s image, and all but chased religious symbols out of the public square.

                      This quote by Stalin about Lenin is the most one of the most troubling of many i could cite:

                      “There were some odd people at that time in our Party who thought that Lenin had come to realise the necessity of combating the Church only in 1921 (laughter) — that he had not realised it until then. That, of course, was silly, comrades. Lenin, of course, realised the necessity of combating the Church before 1921 too. But that was not the point. The point was to link a broad mass anti-religious campaign with the struggle for the vital interests of the masses, and to conduct it in such a way that it was understood by the masses and supported by them.”

                      Obviously not everyone on the left is an atheist or a communist, and not all atheists are communists – that’s not what I’m trying to say at all. But the raw partisan hatred and unapologetic anti-religious bigotry evinced in the comment section of this site day after day makes it pretty clear you leftists are a lot closer to Chairman Mao than to George McGovern.

                    • Carla Akins December 22nd, 2015 at 20:44

                      there is no “atheistic view” to push off anyone. You are speaking of narcissists, sociopaths intent on total domination. If they’d had a plan to use religion to accomplish their goals – they would have. There is simply no way to indoctrinate someone into a belief, because there is none. Every atheist lives their life differently, the only common thread among us is the fact that we do not believe gods exist. Not yours, not theirs, no ones. Other than that single fact we may or may not share any additional traits but there is no way to measure it because we don’t have a doctrine. I have no idea how to make it any clearer to you. You are either blinded by you bias or not capable of logical thought.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 20:59

                      “there is no “atheistic view” to push off anyone.”

                      –wrong. Indoctrination continues into atheism continues today in leftist colleges… first they tell there is no concrete proof for god, then the pull out the ‘no crows in box’ fallacy, then

                      “You are speaking of narcissists, sociopaths intent on total domination.”

                      –Yep! Sounds like a perfect description of Clinton, Pelosi, Bush and Obama to me.

                      “If they’d had a plan to use religion to accomplish their goals – they would have. There is simply no way to indoctrinate someone into a belief…”

                      –They did. It’s a historical fact you are simply ignorant of:
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism

                      “Every atheist lives their life differently, the only common thread among us is the fact that we do not believe gods exist. Not yours, not theirs, no ones.”

                      –then how come every time I debate an atheist I get the same exact BS arguments?

                      “You are either blinded by you bias or not capable of logical thought.”

                      –I’d suggest you are the one here who is blinded.

                    • Carla Akins December 22nd, 2015 at 21:15

                      Please. Now you’re just embarrassing yourself. Clinton, Pelosi, Obama have attempted world domination. They haven’t executed those that simply disagree with their philosophy….

                      Schools are not indoctrinating folks into atheism. If your religion is so absolute it should stand up to scrutiny. I was Baptist until I read the entire bible and took precept classes at the church I was a member of. Schools offer the opportunity to gain knowledge, it’s not a conspiracy to turn folks into atheists – it simply happens when you know all the facts. Actual scientific, observable, repeatable facts.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 21:54

                      “Clinton, Pelosi, Obama have attempted world domination.”

                      –then explain why they sit at the head of country that has over 638 military in over 150 foreign nations and territories? You can’t because you are wrong. Obama too believes in “American Exceptionalism with every fiber of [his] being” just like the NeoCons you rightly hate so much. This is thinly veiled fascist imperialism.

                      “They haven’t executed those that simply disagree with their philosophy….”

                      –except a US citizen named Awlaki.

                      “Schools are not indoctrinating folks into atheism.”

                      –then who taught you the ‘you can’t prove a negative’ fallacious tenet of atheism I encounter every time I debate an atheist? You are scared to answer the question.

                      “If your religion is so absolute it should stand up to scrutiny.”

                      –it does.

                      “I was Baptist until I read the entire bible and took precept classes at the church I was a member of.”

                      –you must have read it wrong.

                      “Schools offer the opportunity to gain knowledge…”

                      — of course, why to think christians have founded so many?

                      “t’s not a conspiracy to turn folks into atheists”

                      –i never said it was. but individual professors can easily insert their biases into certain classes…

                      “Actual scientific, observable, repeatable facts”

                      –what scientific, observable, repeatable facts demonstrate there are no gods? none. you have no proof and zero evidence to back up your silly faith in the godless universe. NONE.

                    • whatthe46 December 22nd, 2015 at 23:04

                      you write a whole lotta shit and say absolutely nothing.

                    • FatRat December 22nd, 2015 at 22:03

                      He is confabulating a scenario with an imaginary (and evolving diety) vs. “the opposition group/diety”. Or as Groucho Marx would sing “I’m against it”.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHash5takWU

                      [Groucho]
                      I don’t know what they have to say,
                      It makes no difference anyway,
                      Whatever it is, I’m against it.
                      No matter what it is or who commenced it,
                      I’m against it.

                      Your proposition may be good,
                      But let’s have one thing understood,
                      Whatever it is, I’m against it.
                      And even when you’ve changed it or condensed it,
                      I’m against it.

                      I’m opposed to it,
                      On general principle, I’m opposed to it.

                      [chorus] He’s opposed to it.
                      In fact, indeed, that he’s opposed to it!

                      [Groucho]
                      For months before my son was born,
                      I used to yell from night to morn,
                      Whatever it is, I’m against it.
                      And I’ve kept yelling since I first commenced it,
                      I’m against it!

                      Satan (Hebrew: שָּׂטָן satan, meaning “adversary”;[1] Arabic: شيطان shaitan, meaning; “astray”, “distant”, or sometimes “devil”) is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions[2][3] who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray.

                      “Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but more frequently than not struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.” Martin Luther

                    • anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 18:41

                      So when is god going to show up and give us an update?

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 19:25

                      every. single. day. faithfully. god is right here for us.

                    • anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 19:38

                      Oh I see. Just like millions and millions of Chinese saw Mao as a god. Every.single.day.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 20:06

                      then Mao died, his policies all failed, and he was proven an evil fraud. And many Chinese followers became disillusioned.

                    • anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 20:08

                      He was a fraud. Just like all gods are frauds.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 21:08

                      The real fraudsters are those hyping up the so called ‘War on Women’ which is far less real than the Left’s ‘War on Religion.’ Both so-called ‘wars’ are hyperbole propaganda memes in the information war. But as a result of the Left’s war on religion in the US alone, they have ‘successfully’ killed 57 million living fetuses, eliminated prayer from school, changed the definition of marriage which is a fundamental building block of society, weakened the family structure, brainwashed a generation into believing we are more closely related to monkeys than we are created in God’s image, and all but chased religious symbols out of the public square.

                    • anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 21:26

                      If you want to find out why the religious right is rapidly deminishing look to folks like Palins daughter or the Dugars.

                      It is fundies like this that is a big part of your peoples downfall.

                      A big reason why the milinials just aint buying your bullshit anymore.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 22:04

                      I agree fundamentalist interpretations are pretty thin.

                      they ain’t buying the atheist BS much anymore either. you simply can’t prove there are no gods.

                    • Bunya December 22nd, 2015 at 22:29

                      And you simply can’t prove gods exist, either.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 23:11

                      true. finally we can agree on something.

                    • anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 22:49

                      Almost as thin as your Mao is an atheist rant.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 23:44

                      It’s a fact that Mao was an atheist. but keep on denying and acting as an apologist for his atrocities.

                    • Bunya December 22nd, 2015 at 19:59

                      Let’s see your proof.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 20:51

                      lets see your proof no gods exist.

                    • Carla Akins December 22nd, 2015 at 21:09

                      You must know that a negative can’t be proven, regardless the onus is on the one claiming existence, not the other way around.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 21:17

                      Actually that is debanked fallacious atheist tenet you foolishly believed. look it up. whoever taught you that was probably also responsible for indoctrinating you into atheism.

                    • Carla Akins December 22nd, 2015 at 21:20

                      Again, no one teaches atheism. It’s not a tenet. It’s not an indoctrination because the absence of something is not a unifying force.

                    • FatRat December 22nd, 2015 at 21:21

                      Check the pendings.

                    • Carla Akins December 22nd, 2015 at 21:25

                      I got nothing in pending. :-/

                    • FatRat December 22nd, 2015 at 21:26

                      Thanks, the Krampus must’ve eaten it all up or the Langoliers.

                    • Carla Akins December 22nd, 2015 at 21:30

                      Every time I get on a plane, the Langoliers go through my head. I found it.

                    • FatRat December 22nd, 2015 at 21:31

                      Watch out I made a second one. A doppelganger. lol

                    • Carla Akins December 22nd, 2015 at 21:34

                      No sweat, I’m clearing everything out now, but won’t still be online to to push any new ones that get stuck. Just a heads up.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 22:01

                      If ‘a negative can’t be proven’ isn’t a tenet then how come every dumb atheist I encounter believes it?

                      The reality is that the negative “i did not commit that crime” is proven to a standard of reasonable doubt every day in courtrooms.

                      here are severla websites that teach atheism:

                      http://atheism.about.com/od/atheismatheiststheism/a/BecomeAtheist.htm

                      http://www.wikihow.com/Become-an-Atheist

                      http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Why%3F:Become_an_atheist

                      You’re WRONG.

                      I never said all atheists are unified.

                    • Bunya December 22nd, 2015 at 22:27

                      If someone is claiming that he “did not commit the crime” even as the evidence is stacked up against him, it is up to him or his lawyers to prove that he is innocent.

                    • Carla Akins December 23rd, 2015 at 10:22

                      How can they operate as a group, as you keep insisting if they are not unified?

                    • FatRat December 23rd, 2015 at 14:18

                      Give it up Carla, this Frank Burns impersonator knows the score. We are card carrying members of the Unorganized Unincorporated Unaffiliated Union of Commie Pinko Atheists. And we lease our HQ from The Legion of Doom. lol

                      https://41.media.tumblr.com/6f78b0f29680b0fc48cfcc8da6b55c88/tumblr_mzkykrYP8T1t0okfgo1_500.png

                      https://i.ytimg.com/vi/oDtMS6dWllg/hqdefault.jpg

                    • Bunya December 22nd, 2015 at 22:23

                      Where is your proof that it’s a debunked fallacious Atheist tenet? It seems to me you’ve been indoctrinated and you’re projecting your hatred onto others.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 22:31

                      http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Negative_proof

                    • Bunya December 22nd, 2015 at 22:56

                      LOL! Thank you for proving my point!

                      “X is true because there is no proof that X is false.”
                      Now replace “X” with “god”

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 23:37

                      oh your point was “A common saying in pseudologic is “You can’t prove a negative.” That saying is not true. ” ??? gee I thought that was my point. LIAR.

                    • Bunya December 23rd, 2015 at 00:03

                      No, my point is your claim, “god must be true because there is no proof that god is false”. That is an argument from ignorance.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 23rd, 2015 at 00:37

                      i never claimed that you LIAR.

                    • Bunya December 23rd, 2015 at 10:38

                      “… god is right here for us.” – Aldous Huxley, 15 hours ago.
                      LIAR!

                    • Aldous Huxley December 23rd, 2015 at 10:58

                      not the same!

                    • Bunya December 23rd, 2015 at 12:17

                      I’m through with you. Your “I know you are, but what am I” attitude is way too childish for me. You are a hate-filled liar and It’s beneath me to play that game.

                    • Dwendt44 December 23rd, 2015 at 13:02

                      Of course it’s the same. Any reference to god/about god makes the assumption that such a thing as god exists.

                    • Dwendt44 December 23rd, 2015 at 13:09

                      In any philosophical discussion or argument, the burden of proof rests with the one making the claim.
                      The statement that that is not valid or is somehow debunked is nonsense.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 24th, 2015 at 07:38

                      prove your claim the are no gods anywhere in the universe.

                    • Bunya December 22nd, 2015 at 22:21

                      Since you’re the one claiming there exists a deity controlling everything, the burden is on you to produce the proof. And by the way, quoting the bible is not proof.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 22:38

                      oh here we go again. the same BS fallacious tenets I encounter every time I debate an atheist… lots of dumb excuses why you don’t have any proof or any evidence to substantiate your baseless invented worldview. never any evidence.

                      I never agreed to these ‘burden of proof’ rules you are citing. Public debates don’t have universal set rules.

                      Courtrooms have burden of proof rules. We are not in a courtroom.

                      We are all under and EQUAL BURDEN of proof to substantiate our beliefs with the best evidences and proofs available to justify to ourselves why we believe to disbelieve X ro Y belief.

                      The godless universe is a claim. By your own fallacious rules of debate the burden of proof is also on you.

                      next you’ll be citing ‘spaghetti monster’ and ‘no crows in box.’ That these memes have name we both recognize (or can look up) demonstrates they are tenets.

                    • Bunya December 22nd, 2015 at 22:47

                      Okay. How do I prove something that doesn’t exist? You’re the one making the claim that a god exists, yet you can produce no evidence. By the way,I don’t believe in the spaghetti monster, but if you do, I’d like to see your proof that he/she/it exists.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 23:47

                      how do I prove there no crows exist in this measurable box? I look in it. I weigh it. I feel around. Crows are black and have a mass of 2 to 5 pounds. You can feel them.. duh.

                    • Bunya December 23rd, 2015 at 10:15

                      That’s how I know crows exists. I’ve seen them. That still doesn’t prove your god exists. What color is he/she/it? Where does one find he/she/it? How much does he/she/it weigh?

                    • Dwendt44 December 23rd, 2015 at 12:45

                      I can’t prove unicorns or fairies don’t exist but since there’s no evidence that they do, I’ll stick with a big ‘NO’ they don’t exist.
                      Same goes for the >3000 gods man has created.

                    • Dwendt44 December 23rd, 2015 at 13:13

                      The problem, your problem, is that there is no, none, nada, zippo proof that gods, any gods, exist. There is no evidence.
                      The burden of proof lies with those that claim god or gods exist.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 24th, 2015 at 07:37

                      The problem, your problem, is that there is no, none, nada, zippo proof that gods, any gods, don’t exist. There is no evidence.
                      The burden of proof lies with those that claim god or gods don’t exist.
                      fixed that for ya.

                    • Dwendt44 December 24th, 2015 at 11:02

                      You fixed nothing. The burden of proof is on those that claim that gods exist. Pick a god, any god, of the more than 3000 that mankind has created over the ages and prove that it or any other deity is real. Any proof at all.

                    • Carla Akins December 22nd, 2015 at 20:29

                      I can tell…by your Christian-like behavior.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 21:10

                      both atheism and anti-theism were part and parcel with communist doctrine from the days of Karl Marx. Atheism’s nihilism justified communist brutality.

                      Atheistic Communists like Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were the ones who tried to force their atheistic beliefs on ‘the collective’ thru Gulags, public executions of priests, propaganda, and atheistic indoctrination in mandatory public schools and massive State orphanages. The Communists allegedly even had public school teachers push students to indoctrinate their parents, and report resistive parents to communist Party officials, who would then imprison the parents. today the Left has half a million trolls running around the internet pushing Chairman Mao’s “Religion is poison” propaganda meme.

                    • Carla Akins December 22nd, 2015 at 21:18

                      Bullshit. Atheism has no brutal component. You either have a moral compass or not. Religion allows an out, a reason for killing others. Atheism does not, you either are good and do good or your just not a good person. Just stop. No one, and I do mean no with even the tiniest open mind does not buy into your ridiculous claims.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 22:26

                      Can I flag the moderator for swearing? LOL

                      “Atheism has no brutal component. You either have a moral compass or not.”

                      –That moral compass is one of God’s many gifts to you. atheism gives you no reason listen to your moral compass. atheism allowed Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot’s minions to become killing machines.

                      “Religion allows an out, a reason for killing others.”

                      –Islam does, true. Christianity and most other religions teach against killing others. you are deliberately over-generalizing.

                      “Atheism does not, you either are good and do good or your just not a good person.”

                      –what is ‘good.’ You have no basis for your assertion that good and evil even exist. These are concepts you swiped from theism.

                      “Just stop. No one, and I do mean no with even the tiniest open mind does not buy into your ridiculous claims.”

                      –You don’t have an open mind. If you did you wouldn’t be so afraid to answer my questions honestly.

                    • anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 22:53

                      You need a god or some invented moral authority to tell you what is right and what is wrong.

                      The rest of us don’t.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 23:39

                      no I have the gift of a conscience for that. But the Bible reinforces the laws of conscience we all know to be true.

                    • Dwendt44 December 23rd, 2015 at 12:54

                      Common everyday morality existed long before the Hebrews wrote the bible. It’s common to most all religions. BUT the religion part isn’t necessary for being moral or ethical. Religions just like to adopt or incorporate popular or accepted values and CLAIM them for the religion.

                    • Carla Akins December 23rd, 2015 at 10:21

                      You can try and flag me for swearing, you can email Alan, I don’t care. If you would like to see swearing that would be worthy of flagging, I can accommodate you.

                      You can believe god gave you your moral compass, I do not. Your saying it does not make it so.

                      The bible has 3 times more justifications of killing others than the Q’ran

                      You do not have to be religious, or believe in god to know the difference between right and wrong.

                      I have answered your questions honestly, you just don’t like my answers. I grew up in a southern baptist home and considered myself a Christian until my early 40’s. At that time, I immersed myself into the church and the bible in an effort to find this peace and contentment I was always told I would achieve. After all of the classes, bible meetings, prayer meetings, reading every religious text I could put my hands on that I discovered it was all bunk. There may be a god, but she is certainly not connected to any religion.

                      I understand the need for some to have religion, and I am fine with it. Some of my best friends, have a religious faith and I am happy to respect their beliefs. They also do not push it off onto others, try to legislate it or place it into public schools and offices. I have no problem with your faith – you are the one not respecting my beliefs.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 22:04

                      I can tell by your Mao-like behavior.

                    • Glen December 22nd, 2015 at 22:33

                      I’m going to challenge you on that – in what way was Carla behaving even remotely like Mao? Incidentally, you do realise that she was mocking you and claiming that your behaviour wasn’t Christian-like, right? She’s asserting that, if you were really a Christian, you wouldn’t be speaking the way that you do.

                    • Carla Akins December 23rd, 2015 at 03:56

                      Tolerance, inclusiveness, providing safety net programs for our poor, disabled and elderly, wanting an education and healthcare available to everyone – if this makes me a Maoist – great.

                      You and I both you and I know there is nothing in my behavior that is even remotely Mao-like in reality. You should know that your repeated efforts at name calling by calling me “leftist”, yeah, I don’t see that as an insult.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 23rd, 2015 at 10:03

                      you run/’moderate’ a comment section full of intolerant anti-religious propaganda, atheist bigotry, rampant name calling, and anti-inclusive partisan hate mongering … it also happens to be left wing extremist… it all smacks of Maoism to me.

                    • Carla Akins December 23rd, 2015 at 10:37

                      then why are you here, nobody is forcing you.

                    • tracey marie December 22nd, 2015 at 21:42

                      the way you judge, lie and name call shows you never hear any god, just ignorance

                    • Bunya December 23rd, 2015 at 00:18

                      To be fair, we really don’t know who/what god Aldous Huxley worships. It could be the dark lord, aka Satan. And given by his hate-filled rants and his penchant for projecting, I’m almost certain it is.

                    • tracey marie December 23rd, 2015 at 00:23

                      He is a lonely troll and a very silly one at that

                    • FatRat December 22nd, 2015 at 18:49

                      Atheism is not a religion. Theism would be a belief in a god or gods.
                      Think of asymmetry and atypical, take note of the letter a.

                      http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/theunitedgamers/images/9/97/The-princess-bride-inconceivable.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131019043504

                      If Atheism is a religion I want to be able to write off stuff. lol

                    • anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 18:51

                      I hope this guy didn’t leave.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 19:03

                      when it’s practiced at part of a cult of state it is, as in Mao, Stalin, and Pol Pot’s case.

                    • FatRat December 22nd, 2015 at 19:06

                      You can’t quantify something that doesn’t exist, reality doesn’t work that way. If it did we would have anti-Krampus societies.

                      http://i.cdn.turner.com/adultswim/big/video/punishing-the-wicked/venture_ep014xmas_08.jpg

                    • anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 19:13

                      In that case Maoism, Stalinism and any other “ism” is also a religion.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 19:17

                      just as Calvinism is a school of theological and political thought within Christianity, I would say Maoism, Stalinism are schools of thought within atheism. .. Which is why i called you Maoist for being such a blatant anti-religious hater… because you share that left-wing hate filled ‘thinking’ with the other Maoist haters here. DUH.

                    • arc99 December 22nd, 2015 at 19:25

                      no one on this site is a Maoist. at least none of the regulars whose comments I am familiar with.

                      in any event, you can say Maoism and Stalinism are schools of thought within atheism. you can say whatever you want. you can repeat it ad infinitum. does not make it true whatsoever.

                      the only hate I detect in this discussion is the hatred and bogus generalizations about the left, coming from you.

                      my wife is an ordained minister. she is an avowed socialist who thinks I am too conservative. your “left-wing hate filled thinking” does not apply to anyone in this house, nor to anyone I know.

                      turn off FOX or whatever source is filling your head with nonsensical BS.

                    • Gina Bousquet December 22nd, 2015 at 20:06

                      There are no Maoists here you a$$hole. Or Stalinists by that matter. I wonder where you would find them these days.

                    • The Original Just Me December 22nd, 2015 at 21:54

                      Aldous The Troll” is getting a pretty good run off from this isn’t he ?

                    • fahvel December 22nd, 2015 at 22:18

                      only because you all are paying attention to him.

                    • The Original Just Me December 22nd, 2015 at 22:24

                      Not ME, I didn’t do it.

                    • Gina Bousquet December 23rd, 2015 at 12:23

                      He’s not only the word salad nutjob, he’s the thinking salad right-wing kind.

                    • Gina Bousquet December 23rd, 2015 at 14:36

                      He is the right-wing thinking salad kind.

                    • Carla Akins December 22nd, 2015 at 20:33

                      You can think whatever you choose, but by the very definition of atheism you are wrong. Atheism does not recruit, have a dogma and come from all walks of life and cultures. There are no tests or requirements for atheism – it does not meet the definition.

                      Feel free to assign whatever motives you feel necessary to prop up your god and reliance on religion – but don’t include me. Signed, an Atheist.

                    • FatRat December 22nd, 2015 at 20:40

                      I still want the chocolate bunnies.

                      http://liberalbias.com/images/content/Christian-Easter-bunny.jpg

                    • Carla Akins December 22nd, 2015 at 20:46

                      Me too. Dark chocolate.

                    • maggie December 22nd, 2015 at 22:49

                      ;O

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 22:03

                      Marxism and Communism were atheist ideologies. Stalin and Mao weren’t dictators who happened to be atheist; atheism was part of their official doctrine.

                      It was no accident, as the Marxists liked to say, that they shut down the churches and persecuted the clergy.

                    • fahvel December 22nd, 2015 at 22:16

                      like aldous’ stupidism?

                    • Carla Akins December 22nd, 2015 at 20:28

                      Wrong

                    • anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 18:57

                      It seems like you are the guy doing all the”hating” and name calling.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 19:23

                      I’m not calling you any names you haven’t admitted apply to you. If the shoe fits you gotta wear it.

                    • anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 19:39

                      So you won’t mind me calling you a religious zealot then.

                    • fahvel December 22nd, 2015 at 22:15

                      why are you so polite to this mindless thing?

                    • Dwendt44 December 22nd, 2015 at 19:48

                      No distortion there aye? Atheism is not a religion and christianity has a rather bloody history. Give it a lot of power again and it will soon become as destructive as Islam.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 21:14

                      Stalin said

                      “Lenin, of course, realised the necessity of combating the Church before 1921 too. But that was not the point. The point was to link a broad mass anti-religious campaign with the struggle for the vital interests of the masses, and to conduct it in such a way that it was understood by the masses and supported by them.”

                      Which is why one can’t ever trust leftist atheists with power ever again. They haven’t apologized for, or come to terms with the atrocities committed under Mao and Stalin. You are still defending them. You are still attacking us.

                    • Carla Akins December 22nd, 2015 at 21:24

                      No one here has ever defended Mao or Stalin. No one here has to accept ownership for their deeds. A communist may have call to defend their political philosophy but atheism is not a political philosophy, nor a religion. No one has attacked you or Christians. Franklin is no Christian, not by any measure of the bible. He’s an intolerant, bully – and deserves to be called out any time he makes a public statement or calls for others to act or feel the way he does.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 22:15

                      this false dichotomy you are trying to create between yourself as a modern leftist atheist anti-religious bigot, and Mao and Stalin who were leftist atheist anti-religious bigots too, does not stand up to scrutiny. you simply share too much of your ideology with those evil men.

                    • The Original Just Me December 22nd, 2015 at 21:51

                      Christian Religion Bloody ? Reference Mountain Meadows Massacre. Utah 9/11/1857.

                    • Dwendt44 December 22nd, 2015 at 22:47

                      That was the militant arm of the Mormons, not christians. But you still on point.
                      The million, mostly women, that were tortured and killed supposedly for being witches (they weren’t) the Crusades, the point of the sword ‘christianizing’ of most of Europe by Constantine, the attempted genocide of the Native Americans, the list could go on for a long time.

                    • The Original Just Me December 22nd, 2015 at 23:19

                      Actually, Mnt. Meadows was pushed by an over Zealous Stake President and Bishop from Cedar City and Brigham did nothing to discourage them. John Lee got caught up in it because he was an officer in the Mormon Militia. But, you are correct, many Bloody Incidents have been perpetrated in the name of Christianity. Constantine was the reason for the Norsemen to start raids on the Monks in Monasteries off the coast of Scotland and so began the Legend of the Vikings.

                    • Carla Akins December 22nd, 2015 at 20:28

                      Atheism is not a religion

                    • The Original Just Me December 22nd, 2015 at 21:48

                      Shssss, that’s our secret. :+)

                    • Bunya December 22nd, 2015 at 22:13

                      Who taught you that Atheists are haters?

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 22:41

                      atheists. by their actions.

                    • Bunya December 22nd, 2015 at 22:50

                      No, I know it wasn’t the Atheists, because I used to be just like you. I was taught, through religion, to prejudge others. Then I reached the age of reason.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 23:42

                      you’re prejudging me by saying I’m prejudging others, even after I just told you I’m post-judging name calling haters based on their actions. i believe that’s called… hypocrisy??

                    • Bunya December 22nd, 2015 at 23:59

                      Look at your above posts. You automatically accuse us of being hate-filled bigots and Mao sympathizers with no proof whatsoever, and then accuse me of prejudging you. I believe that’s called … hypocrisy?

                    • Aldous Huxley December 23rd, 2015 at 00:04

                      to repeat:

                      Look back at you posting history. The left wing hate-filled BS you spew daily is my proof you are a Maoist and a hater. You are are a living testament of your own evilness.

                    • Bunya December 23rd, 2015 at 00:08

                      Really? Where did I say I was a Maoist? Where did I specifically say that I hated someone? I’ll wait.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 23rd, 2015 at 00:37

                      You said:

                      “Rick “man on dog” Santorum

                      Trump is taking advice on how to deceive his fan base from Bill O’Reilly.

                      Rubio… you are too chicken to take a stand.

                      Hastert’s a puke, and deserves to suffer.

                      I thought that after Palin and Bachmann quit, that was the end of stupid women in government.

                      I hope he’s sent, for years, to a “pounding in the ass” prison.”

                      hate-filled BS spewed daily.

                    • Bunya December 23rd, 2015 at 10:37

                      So? That doesn’t prove I’m a Maoist. Did I say I hate Santorum? O’Reilly? Rubio, etc.?
                      Why don’t you take your vile insults over to a right wing site. If you think we’re hate-filled, we pale in comparison to the right wing “Christians”.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 23rd, 2015 at 10:57

                      I proved you were an hater. Isn’t that enough? (Not to mention proving you had not a clue on how Clinton, Bush and Obama all collaborated to destroy Iraq and build ISIS)

                      oh yeah, I occasionally tackle right wing hater sites too, don’t worry about that.

                    • Bunya December 23rd, 2015 at 12:13

                      My question was how does that prove I’m a Maoist? I’ve also proved you’re a hater, so does that make you a Maoist?

                    • whatthe46 December 23rd, 2015 at 00:17

                      wanna know what’s funny? sometimes we like to play with our food. you’re the perfect troll. dumb, stupid, ignorant, racist, bigot, asshat, sheep and completely uninformed. the GOPissers perfect idiot.

                    • tracey marie December 23rd, 2015 at 00:24

                      You make me laugh out loud!

                    • whatthe46 December 23rd, 2015 at 00:29

                      i finally did it! yes! my tracey marie laughed. love you sister girl.

                    • tracey marie December 23rd, 2015 at 00:37

                      You always make me smile, laugh and feel good.

                    • whatthe46 December 23rd, 2015 at 00:58

                      awe, cheeks red.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 23rd, 2015 at 00:45

                      so now your admitting you are a cannibal, as well as a hater. perfect.

                      Of course the race card had to come out. I said absolutely nothing remotely racist. But you had to play your last card…. because its what you evil trolls always do. it’s all you know.

                    • Budda December 23rd, 2015 at 10:41

                      Oh, you really nailed it!!

                    • anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 22:57

                      Have you looked to the christians and the way the anti PP act? That is some real hate.

                      Do you see them hanging around the front of these clinics harassing woman going in?

                      That is some serious hate going on there.

                      And don’t tell me that Robert Dear is not a right wing nut job.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 23:36

                      “Have you looked to the christians and the way the anti PP act? That is some real hate.”

                      –killing babies is pretty hateful too.

                      “Do you see them hanging around the front of these clinics harassing woman going in?”

                      –nope. every protest I’ve been to has been very respectful.

                      “That is some serious hate going on there.”

                      –according to leftwing propaganda spinning what is likely a few isolated incidents into something terrible… nothing remotely on par with 77 million killed by the Asian Atheistic communists. .

                      “And don’t tell me that Robert Dear is not a right wing nut job.”

                      –who?

                    • Bunya December 22nd, 2015 at 23:57

                      “–killing babies is pretty hateful too.”
                      If you know someone who is killing babies, I would report them to the authorities pronto.

                      “–nope. every protest I’ve been to has been very respectful.”
                      LOL! Then apparently you haven’t seen them in front of PP clinics.

                      “…. nothing remotely on par with 77 million killed by the Asian Atheistic communists. .”
                      Or like the millions killed during the crusades, the inquisition and the witch burnings – not to mention those killed in Iraq.

                    • Dwendt44 December 22nd, 2015 at 23:12

                      Atheists offer tacts, evidence, reason, logic, and common sense, christian activists just jump up and down and point to the bible. Though the bible is largely copied from other older religions. Very little original stuff there.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 23:27

                      Militant Maoist atheists:

                      http://www.internationalviewpoint.org/local/cache-vignettes/L320xH230/tetexecution-9ea14.jpg

                      http://unitedweblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/guerilla_girl_without_gun1.jpg?w=474

                      http://i1.wp.com/www.kractivist.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/jungle_maoists20130526.jpg

                    • Bunya December 23rd, 2015 at 01:03

                      It is true that Mao Zedong was an atheist,. the primary influences that led to his atrocities was not atheism, but his dogmatic Marxism and communist ideas. In other words, he did not kill in the name of Atheism.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 23rd, 2015 at 01:10

                      still acting as an apologist for Mao. You can’t divorce Mao’s communism from his atheism.. they are forever inextricably linked. If they aren’t linked then why where Stalin and Pol Pot, and to a lesser extent Hoxha also murderous atheist communists? just a funny coincidence? i don’t think so. anti-religious bigots have always inhabited the extremist left wing. always will… till you die out and everyone finally repudiates your evil hate filled nihilistic ideology.

                    • Bunya December 23rd, 2015 at 01:29

                      Their lack of belief in a deity didn’t drive them to commit horrendous crimes against humanity. It was their selfish thirst for power. Just like theism, the thirst for power compels organized religions to preach hate and divisiveness. However, preaching this bunk in the name of their god absolves them of their hatred by shifting the blame from themselves onto their imaginary being. For example, Christians don’t hate gays/Muslims/Jews/Atheists, etc.. God does.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 23rd, 2015 at 01:38

                      I dunno about your Cult of State god but my God loves gays/Muslims/Jews/Atheists so much He died for their salvation, to absolve them of punishment for sins we ALL commit. No preaching of ‘hate and divisiveness’ here. That’s all on you.

                    • bpollen December 23rd, 2015 at 06:41

                      Your God, as you describe him, is a product of your imagination. There is no objective proof that Jebus even existed, let alone died for anybody’s salvation. I can prove that government exists. Can you prove that God exists?

                    • Bunya December 23rd, 2015 at 11:09

                      I thought you just called me of being a liar for accusing you of believing in a god. LOL! A liar accusing someone else of lying! If you don’t believe in a god, how could he love gays (“If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB) so much he died for their salvation? Nice god you have there, calling for the death of his creation.

                    • Dwendt44 December 23rd, 2015 at 12:10

                      Except that jesus didn’t come to save the heathens, the gentiles, the Romans, the Pagans, or anyone other than the Hebrews.

                    • Bunya December 23rd, 2015 at 10:59

                      Then I guess by your logic, all atrocities inflicted upon this country by evil people (Paul Hill, Timothy McVeigh, Dylann Roof, etc.) can be forever inextricably linked to Christianity?
                      .
                      Why does anybody kill? Christians don’t corner the market on murder, you know.
                      .
                      Unfortunately for you, we will never die out. The only thing dying out is a belief in an evil, vindictive, hate-filled, nihilistic Christian god. People nowadays are opting for a more peaceful, tolerant society, free of a belief in an invisible deity, hell bent on sending its “children” in a hell full of torture and anguish for all eternity.

                    • Jack E Raynbeau December 23rd, 2015 at 10:06

                      Have you read the hatred spewed by the religious on sites like Breitbart?

                    • Carla Akins December 23rd, 2015 at 04:01

                      Christians. See, I can do it too.

                    • Dwendt44 December 23rd, 2015 at 12:06

                      Most clergy are spouting that nonsense, especially right wing bible pounders.

                    • Bunya December 23rd, 2015 at 12:21

                      I don’t think this Aldous Huxley is here to rationally discuss anything. He’s here to try and convince us how hate-filled we are by proving how hate-filled he is.

                    • fahvel December 22nd, 2015 at 22:14

                      stop before you get fired from the species tank no matter how close to the bottom you already are.

                    • bpollen December 23rd, 2015 at 06:37

                      Atheism is not a religion. Way to redefine words to fit your agenda.

              • The Original Just Me December 22nd, 2015 at 21:47

                He’s a Big Fat Dude in Hawaii .

            • Bunya December 22nd, 2015 at 19:55

              Holy cow! You’re onto us! Not only are we anti-religious, bigoted haters who run around quoting Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Foghorn Leghorn, Pol Pot and all sorts of hate propaganda, we’re also commie, socialists, members of the Muslim Brotherhood, who are in the process of boycotting McDonalds because they refuse to put pictures of Krishna on their Big Mac boxes.
              And we also eat babies. Yum!

            • fahvel December 22nd, 2015 at 22:13

              you are a truly sad example of the human species. Do you lap water too?

              • whatthe46 December 22nd, 2015 at 22:31

                better believe it. a fk’n dog.

              • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 22:41

                ad hominem attacks only prove you are wrong and evil, and that I’m right.

                • anothertoothpick December 22nd, 2015 at 23:00

                  You have a lot of posts on this website and so far I have not seen even one where you were not wrong.

                • bpollen December 23rd, 2015 at 06:32

                  You are mistaken.

                  Ad-hominem attacks don’t prove someone wrong (if I say you are an idiot and that water is wet, does that somehow make water dry???)

                  And ad-hominem don’t prove someone evil Evil is an entirely subjective determination and so not provable.

                  And ad-hominem attacks don’t prove you right. There is no tangible proof that any person here is preaching Chairman Mao’s propaganda, nor that anyone is a member of an atheistic “Cult of State” (atheism is the antithesis of religion, so claims that it is the most poisonous religion is a null statement.)

                  But hey, where’s that DD214?

            • bpollen December 23rd, 2015 at 06:22

              Good thing you don’t make snap judgement and generalize or anything… And what is this Bromance of yours with Mao?

        • Anomaly 100 December 23rd, 2015 at 08:16

          Are you a troll? Don’t do that here please.

    • maggie December 22nd, 2015 at 22:59

      re; atheism not having a moral compass, believers …etc….according to your other post you assert that god gave believers a moral compass…no where in the bible does it say that god endowed anyone with a moral compass…it says “he” (if you are a believer) gave people free will…that is not the same thing …as proof of this I offer up jesus and his temptation in the desert.god left him out there to duke it out with the devil alone…sort of like throwing someone in the ocean and saying sink or swim..there is not a single instance in the bible of God acting as a moral compass and forcing anyone to do anything….as a believer the GOD that you have chosen to believe in gives you no moral advantage over others….it is all too apparent that he has left you to wrestle with your demons….and that you are losing …we pity you…we are positive your suffering is tremendous….maybe someday you will tire of your temptations and join the rest of the world in embracing humanity…..Cheers, Maggie

      • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 23:33

        ‘acting as a moral compass’ and ‘forcing anyone to do anything’ are obviouslt 2 different things.

        Romans 2:15 ESV :

        “They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them”

        You’re wrong.

        • maggie December 22nd, 2015 at 23:35

          another non sequitur….my advice…take your meds….crawl back in your coffin….;)

          • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 23:50

            how can you expect me to answer a question that is completely wrong, false, and bassackwards.

            my answer was not a non-sequitur. your questions was.

        • bpollen December 23rd, 2015 at 06:15

          “The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open. (Hosea 13:16)

          “Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us. He who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” (Psalms 137:8-9)

          That is one screwy moral compass. The bible supports abortion and infanticide.

  9. Chris December 22nd, 2015 at 18:22

    Meaningless gesture.

    It won’t keep anyone (including himself) from voting for Republicans.

    • The Original Just Me December 22nd, 2015 at 21:43

      Crack, Crack, Tumble, Tumble, the Tower is falling down.

  10. amersham46 December 22nd, 2015 at 18:31

    The best news the RNC has gotten all week

    • The Original Just Me December 22nd, 2015 at 21:42

      And even that is WEAK as far as what that Party needs.

  11. veggiedude December 22nd, 2015 at 19:13

    Someone tell him the bible supports abortion http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eliyahu-federman/the-bible-is-not-prolife-_b_1207222.html

  12. Carla Akins December 22nd, 2015 at 21:08

    No, no they aren’t. They are political philosophies. They simply do not include a religious component, this component is not the driving force of the philosophy, it’s a by-product.

    a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.

    • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 21:43

      “No, no they aren’t. They are political philosophies.”

      –political philosophies of atheists.

      “They simply do not include a religious component. this component is not the driving force of the philosophy, it’s a by-product.”

      –you are playing dumb semantic games. you admit atheism is a component of communism. you just classify it as a worldview instead of religion.

      Karl Marx said:

      “Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people” because he was an anti-religious bigot who inserted his bigotry as a key component into his politics. 77 million dead.

      when will you give up defending Karl Marx and anothertoothpick’s hateful bigotry?

      • Glen December 22nd, 2015 at 22:31

        “because he was an anti-religious bigot who inserted his bigotry as a key component into his politics. 77 million dead.” – you seem to confuse “he was an atheist” with “he was driven by atheism”. And Marx had nothing to do with “77 million dead” – he was a philosopher, he didn’t run a country, or in any other way implement his ideas. Perhaps you’re confusing him with Mao, Stalin, etc.

        And he had a view on religion. His lack of belief in god did not guide his politics, his philosophy, or his actions.

        If we move our attention to Stalin, Mao, etc… they also weren’t guided by their lack of belief. Instead, they viewed religion as a power structure that they didn’t control, and thus wanted to eliminate it. Their desire to destroy religion wasn’t driven by their atheism, but by their desire for power. Which is why, for instance, when Stalin saw an opportunity to make use of religion once the Germans attacked in 1941, he had no qualms about doing so – his government worked with the Russian Orthodox Church. Why? Because he was able to leverage it in order to increase his power and get more people to fight against the Germans.

        In other words, the reason why those communists (actually, socialists – neither Stalin nor Mao were truly communists, their governments never stopped being socialist – in Marxist theory, socialism is just a stepping stone to communism) wanted to instate atheism was because atheism doesn’t, itself, give people anything to rally around, doesn’t give them anything to guide their actions, and thus it becomes easier to maintain their power over the people.

        And that’s why atheists don’t have anything to apologise for when it comes to these governments – expecting atheists to apologise for it is roughly the equivalent of expecting all people who aren’t American to apologise for the actions of all non-Americans. Or expecting all people who aren’t golfers to apologise for the actions of all non-golfers. Because you can’t unify around nothing.

        • Aldous Huxley December 22nd, 2015 at 23:19

          I don’t expect you to apologize for Mao and Stalin. I just want you to show how you are different from them…. perhaps by refuting anothertoothpick for his unabashed anti-religious bigotry once in awhile. that never seems to happen on this site. but if you have done so then kudos.

          • Glen December 22nd, 2015 at 23:55

            Again, why should I need to show that? Would you go up to a random Christian and ask them to show that they’re different from the KKK or from the Westboro Baptist Church? Or would you assume that they’re different until they show otherwise?

            And I wouldn’t call anothertoothpick’s attitude “anti-religious bigotry”. Why? Because bigotry is when you have a bad attitude towards people for who they are, not what they do. Religion isn’t a person, and anothertoothpick’s comments haven’t actually been against religious people as a general, sweeping claim. He (and I’m assuming it’s a “he”) agreed to being an “anti-religious bigot”, but I sense that that was intended sarcastically. I could be mistaken. I’m fairly confident that anothertoothpick’s attitude is aimed at the negative effects of religion on society (I’m not denying some positives – whether the net impact is positive or negative is up for debate), and at the actions of “Christians” such as Franklin Graham.

            And if you pay closer attention to the responses you’ve been getting from people in this thread of discussion, you’ll find that there’s actually a subtle thing you’re missing along the way. Just about all of them have been saying “there’s no dogma in atheism, nothing to rally around, nothing in common except the absence of a certain kind of belief”. It’s not just a comment in response to your points about Stalin and Mao, but also to the idea that people like anothertoothpick are necessarily representative in any way.

            • Aldous Huxley December 23rd, 2015 at 00:16

              “Would you go up to a random Christian and ask them to show that they’re different from the KKK or from the Westboro Baptist Church?”

              –atheists do it all the time. But I didn’t go up to random website. I found 1 that was filled with hate filled partisan bigotry and anti religious bigotry daily.

              “Or would you assume that they’re different until they show otherwise?”

              –i didn’t assume jack. I watched how many people here behave (yourself NOT included – you actually make reasonable posts).

              “anothertoothpick’s … agreed to being an “anti-religious bigot”, but I sense that that was intended sarcastically.”

              –his posts before and after he admitted it belie that he is a genuine anti-religious bigot. you fail. but keep on acting as apologist for haters. you are proving my point.

              “I could be mistaken. I’m fairly confident that anothertoothpick’s attitude is aimed at the negative effects of religion on society.”

              — I’m pretty sure you are mistaken.

              • Glen December 23rd, 2015 at 01:04

                “atheists do it all the time” – news to me. I’m an atheist, and I have quite a lot of atheist friends (oddly enough, it’s purely by happenstance), and I don’t know anybody who would assume that religious people are like the KKK or the WBC just because they’re religious. And you’re confusing criticism with bigotry – it is not bigoted to call out the religious right for their insanities in both partisan and religious contexts. It’s not bigoted to criticise the current state of the republican party (most here would point to certain exceptions within the party as examples of what the party should be like). And it’s not bigoted to criticise attitudes in general.

                You are most certainly assuming guilt until innocence is proven by asking me, and others, to prove that we’re not like Stalin or Mao. Remember, you asked ME to do it. Even as you claim that my behaviour hasn’t sparked any kind of suspicion for you, you said you wanted me to “show how you are different from them”.

                Bigots don’t claim to be bigots and celebrate their bigotry. They couch it in language that asserts reasonability. The term “bigot” has an inherent negative connotation. So if anothertoothpick says “I’m definitely a bigot”, it’s likely to be sarcasm. What you perhaps haven’t noticed is that people have a tendency to counter-troll those who they believe are trolls. A common troll action would be to assert that someone on the forum is a bigot (or other, similar assertions). A counter-troll would treat it as a positive, because it saps the original troll of their power and lets the counter-troll mess with the original troll. Of course, I can’t say it for certain, as I said, but I have observed that sort of behaviour on this forum quite a bit – the tone changes when someone posts something inflammatory, usually to a more mocking attitude.

                And that’s why I think you might be mistaken about it. It’s not “acting as apologist”, it’s commenting on my personal viewpoint. I didn’t say you shouldn’t believe otherwise. I just stated what I think, and provided my basis for thinking it. Considering the context – an internet forum – the statements you’re basing your opinion on aren’t nearly as inflammatory as you think they are. The internet tends to be full of people who use exaggeration and sarcasm, thinking that they’re being witty. And unfortunately, the internet tends to be a poor vehicle for subtlety and wit, so those comments often start flame wars. Which is basically what has happened here – on both sides – in my opinion. Take from that what you will.

                • Aldous Huxley December 23rd, 2015 at 01:17

                  As a result of the Left’s “flame wars” on religion in the US alone, they have ‘successfully’ feticide 57 million living fetuses, eliminated prayer from school, changed the definition of marriage which is a fundamental building block of society, weakened the family structure, brainwashed a generation into believing we are more closely related to monkeys than we are created in God’s image, and all but chased religious symbols out of the public square. I respectfully suggest there is a little bit more to it than ‘exaggeration and sarcasm.’

                  • Glen December 27th, 2015 at 14:35

                    Ah, see, now I understand. You wanted to appear reasonable, but what you’ve just done is shown yourself to be nothing more than a religious crusader.

                    Or maybe I’m mistaken, and you just had a fit.

                    Either way, you might like to try viewing things from a perspective other than your own. It might just be enlightening.

                    • Aldous Huxley December 28th, 2015 at 09:47

                      I absolutely agree, you should try viewing things from a perspective other than your own.

  13. Carla Akins December 22nd, 2015 at 21:32

    I’m off to bed, feel free to duke it out but there may not be a mod to push comments through. Please do not repeatedly post the same item multiple times, if I can’t see it the first time, sorting through a dozen of identical comments does not help your cause. Unless of course, your cause is to piss off the mods.

    • maggie December 22nd, 2015 at 22:50

      wish I’d been here to be part of the dog pile team sorry I wasn’t …next time…

  14. rostee67 December 22nd, 2015 at 21:40

    GOD gave women an intellect, and it is their own decision. Who are these republicans to judge anyone, they condemn abortion but still use the “Pill ” to prevent conception! They support the 2nd Amendment, but conveniently FORGET the 6th COMMANDMENT! By the way, for those that do not believe there is a GOD… you had better be right!

  15. The Original Just Me December 22nd, 2015 at 21:41

    HALLELUJAH ! There’s IS a Glimmer of Hope for the Republican Party. Now IF he would just take a few million Fruitcakes out the door with him .

  16. jybarz December 22nd, 2015 at 22:26

    Here’s a very religious man with a very evil heart!

  17. maggie December 22nd, 2015 at 23:01

    Graham is the Nazi

    • Louise Prange December 23rd, 2015 at 03:09

      I am getting a salary of more than 3800 dollars each week , that is awesome. Over a year ago I was in a horrible condition , jobless and Bank account with only few bucks . Thank one of my friends showed me a way where I was able to gather my self and making average of 85 d/h. So it can change your life as it has changed mine.

      http://www.gostraight.g.gy

      ggh…

    • The Original Just Me December 23rd, 2015 at 14:52

      He is absolutely NOT his Fathers son.

      • maggie December 23rd, 2015 at 15:01

        ;O

      • thinkingwomanmillstone December 23rd, 2015 at 16:00

        Yes, he is….his father is just as bad as he is.

        • The Original Just Me December 24th, 2015 at 12:07

          I was never a follower of his father but this Loud Mouth is just Rich Spoiled Brat that is Over Using and Abusing is fathers reputation.

          • thinkingwomanmillstone December 24th, 2015 at 12:12

            Listen to the Nixon Graham tapes. They’ll sound very familiar.

  18. William December 23rd, 2015 at 10:54

    97 percent of what planned parenthood does has nothing to do with abortion. Further, no federal money is used to fund abortion.
    The reason the GOP lead legislature voted to fund planned parenthood is a bit more personal for republicans.

  19. cvryder2000 December 23rd, 2015 at 14:27

    Don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya, Frankie!

    • Progressive Republican December 26th, 2015 at 05:29

      Nah.

      Let it.

    • Roadrash548 December 27th, 2015 at 21:59

      Oh, sorry, I should’ve checked.

  20. Texdakota December 23rd, 2015 at 18:08

    If today’s Republican party isn’t right wing enough for him I shudder to think what party he will join next.

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