Ben Carson Did Research On Aborted Fetal Tissue

Posted by | August 13, 2015 13:00 | Filed under: Andrew Bradford Contributors News Behaving Badly Politics


2016 GOP Presidential contender Dr. Ben Carson, who has been a vocal critic of a woman’s right to choose, now has questions to answer regarding his own actions.

Carson, who has repeatedly said that Planned Parenthood should be defunded because a tiny fraction of their services involve abortion, also did research on aborted fetal tissue while still a practicing neurosurgeon.

Dr. Jen Gunter, an OB-GYN and pain medicine physician, says Dr. Carson published a study with three other colleagues in 1992 that described using:

Human choroid plexus ependyma and nasal mucosa from two fetuses aborted in the ninth and 17th week of gestation…READ MORE at  LiberalAmerica.org

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By: Andrew Bradford

Andrew Bradford is an author, academic, and political activist who lives in Atlanta. He is a Senior Writer for Liberal America and also has his own blog at deepleftfield.info

344 responses to Ben Carson Did Research On Aborted Fetal Tissue

  1. anothertoothpick August 13th, 2015 at 13:11

    First of all a fetus is not a person until it can live on it’s own outside the womb.

    BUT….when you repeat a lie enough times the republicans have convinced these nit wits otherwise. And amazingly they have won this argument.

    The perfect example of a lie being repeat over and over becomes true.

    What makes me mad is nobody is pushing back against this lie.

    And furthermore, if I may, they are against tyranny but demand that the government force a woman to bring an unwanted fetus to birth.

    • Larry Schmitt August 13th, 2015 at 16:33

      The republicans don’t have to convince most of them. Their churches have already done that. My sister and her husband (a convert) believe that abortion is murder not because they are republican, but because they are catholic.

      • whatthe46 August 13th, 2015 at 19:38

        ask them if the death penalty is murder or revenge?

        • Larry Schmitt August 13th, 2015 at 19:53

          I don’t know their opinion on the death penalty, but she just posted something on facebook about a fetus not being part of the mother’s body, but a separate person. I’m not going to argue with her, it’s a waste of time.

          • whatthe46 August 13th, 2015 at 20:17

            sweet…. WHAT? she needs serious deprogramming. i’m sorry, but she does.

            • Larry Schmitt August 13th, 2015 at 21:00

              Religious people rarely change their points of view. By definition they start from an illogical point and go downhill from there.

              • whatthe46 August 13th, 2015 at 21:12

                my sister is a hot mess at times. she, as far as i know, isn’t a self professed christian, but, she can be a nut case. too much to say to explain her mindset. she’s all over the map. she’s a liberal and will always vote dem. but, what i do know is that, she is a huge hypocrite. BIG TIME. i was married once and for almost 12 yrs before my hubby was killed in a motorcycle accident. girlfriend, is now on her 3rd marriage and my one so far has out lasted the first two.combined. yet, she said to me and her best friend, “you don’t need no man in your life.” whatever.

              • Dwendt44 August 14th, 2015 at 01:18

                Near impossible to reason with religious folks.

                • Larry Schmitt August 14th, 2015 at 05:34

                  Religion is not reasonable. They are polar opposites, religion and reason.

      • Judgeforyourself37 August 14th, 2015 at 12:33

        I have know several Catholics who have had abortions. Sadly, their “friends,” church and families dumped guilt on them.

  2. tracey marie August 13th, 2015 at 13:24

    So Ben is a liar and a sneak, demand from others what he is not willing to do himself.

    • whatthe46 August 13th, 2015 at 13:45

      no surprises there.

      • tracey marie August 13th, 2015 at 13:55

        none at all, i do wish someone would ask him about this hypocrisy.

        • whatthe46 August 13th, 2015 at 14:10

          in public! recorded. that way he can’t say his response was taken out of context. yeah, i too would like to hear that answer.

          • tracey marie August 13th, 2015 at 14:29

            He said on brietbart that he used a “specim” while PP killed “babies” and sold their tissue.

            • whatthe46 August 13th, 2015 at 15:41

              so that makes it ok then. gotcha.

            • Robert Kennedy August 13th, 2015 at 19:00

              And he lied as always.

              • tracey marie August 13th, 2015 at 19:08

                He always lies or twists facts.

          • Red Mann August 13th, 2015 at 14:45

            Riiight! How many times have these clowns been recorded and then claim, with a straight face, they were taken out of context? RW grasp of reality.

            • Larry Schmitt August 13th, 2015 at 16:34

              Well, if Charles Barkley can be misquoted in his own autobiography, anything is possible.

              • whatthe46 August 13th, 2015 at 19:35

                charles fukley is a bonafied asswipe. besides, if he had verbally said what he claims was misquoted in his auto, i might believe that, cause i can’t understand a damn thing that rolls off his tongue, through his teeh and passed his lips. but, no excuses charlie boy when it’s written in black and white.

          • Red Mann August 13th, 2015 at 14:45

            Riiight! How many times have these clowns been recorded and then claim, with a straight face, they were taken out of context? RW grasp of reality.

  3. Roctuna August 13th, 2015 at 13:40

    Yeah but, he was making money on it then. Now he makes money by denouncing it.

  4. dave-dr-gonzo August 13th, 2015 at 13:51

    “Paging David Daleiden! Mr. Daleiden, please pick up the white courtesy phone…”

    • Suzanne McFly August 13th, 2015 at 15:46

      He works for the “Center of Medical Progress”, does he understand what any of those words even means?

  5. William August 13th, 2015 at 13:53

    The right only shows indignation towards abortion when it’s convenient for them to use it as a political tool. The Title X Family Planning Program, officially known as Public Law 91-572 or “Population Research and Voluntary Family Planning Programs” was enacted under President Richard Nixon in 1970 as part of the Public Health Service Act.
    Now suddenly it’s evil.
    Hypocrisy https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4c253b9110786c8701fc0a6f28a5d6a9ff887e8700baa34d495356a200e59cfe.jpg . Thy name is GOP.

    • whatthe46 August 13th, 2015 at 13:54

      thanks william. learn something new everyday.

  6. JM August 13th, 2015 at 13:55

    I’ve learned in the last 8 years that criticizing a minority politician on his political views with angry rhetoric is racist. Please stop the bigotry!!

    • dave-dr-gonzo August 13th, 2015 at 14:00

      #BlackRepublicanLivesMatter, racist white liberal honky futhermuckah!

    • MBJR August 13th, 2015 at 14:50

      Here is what I’ve learned in the past 8 years. When minorities complain about racisms its usually bigots who have a problem with that.

      • JM August 13th, 2015 at 14:59

        Nah, the problem is that we have stooped to taking into account the race of the speaker when determining if speech is bigoted. Not exactly as MLK intended…

        • MBJR August 13th, 2015 at 15:18

          Of course nah its easier to deal with. If MLK was alive today he would think he was still in 1950’s. Ground hog day for MLK.

        • tracey marie August 13th, 2015 at 16:11

          says the inbred racist

          • JM August 13th, 2015 at 21:16

            Almost a complete sentence. Keep up the good work, Tracey.

        • jasperjava August 13th, 2015 at 21:00

          It’s pretty safe to say that you have no clue what Martin Luther King was all about, and he would have nothing to do with the likes of you.

          • JM August 13th, 2015 at 21:11

            I only have degrees in Political Science & American History. He might have come up a time or two. Enough, at least, for a clue.

            • whatthe46 August 13th, 2015 at 21:51

              and we’re suppose to believe you? LMFAOSHIC!

              • JM August 13th, 2015 at 22:03

                Easy enough to prove. What’s your email address?

                • whatthe46 August 13th, 2015 at 22:09

                  bit*h, you must be crazy. yep. you’re crazy.

            • bpollen August 14th, 2015 at 04:21

              People prove all the time that education doesn’t fix stupid.

            • Budda August 14th, 2015 at 16:44

              Where’s the degree from? Liberty or Phoenix?

              • JM August 14th, 2015 at 16:50

                A state school in Wisconsin. I grew up on a dairy farm and didn’t want to go to Madison and pile up debt. You may not agree with me, but it’s a serious error to say I’m not presenting a qualified opinion.

                • Budda August 14th, 2015 at 17:42

                  Bet you didn’t take a course in logic.

    • arc99 August 13th, 2015 at 20:36

      Don’t know where you spent the past 8 year, but clearly it was not the United States of America.

      Criticizing a politician because you dislike his health care bill or his stimulus bill is perfectly fine.

      Demanding a birth certificate from the President of the United States, when not one of his caucasian predecessors had to produce a birth certificate, is the racist part.

      Hope that clears things up for you

      • JM August 13th, 2015 at 21:33

        What does Hillary have to do with this? I mean, she’s the Original Birther. Pretty mysoganistic, Arc. You seem to have, if anything, muddied the waters.

        • whatthe46 August 13th, 2015 at 21:50

          you aren’t very bright. and that’s not a question.

          • JM August 13th, 2015 at 22:01

            Not a fact either. Nice sentence structure, Einstein.

            • whatthe46 August 13th, 2015 at 22:09

              you understood it enough to reply.

            • bpollen August 14th, 2015 at 04:20

              What are you, anti-Semitic?

              • JM August 14th, 2015 at 11:47

                No.

                • bpollen August 14th, 2015 at 15:53

                  Then why are you making snide comments using a Jewish name to deride someone?

                  • JM August 14th, 2015 at 16:00

                    What in the hell are you talking about? How are the initials of my name ‘Jewish’?

                    • bpollen August 14th, 2015 at 16:18

                      What in the hell are YOU talking about???? Did you include your initials in the body of your snide remark? Read it and see. I never stated, implied, or even intimated that you included your initials. In fact, until now, I never even used the word “initials” in communications with you. Is it reading comprehension problems or just willful blindness that causes you to not understand a simple sentence?

                    • JM August 14th, 2015 at 16:26

                      Exactly what name are you talking about? It’s not at all clear. Perhaps you should state, imply or even intimate what you’re talking about.

                    • bpollen August 15th, 2015 at 04:02

                      Cheeses Christ, read your own damn post! If that’s beyond your capabilities, there is NOTHING I can do for you.

            • BigDumbWhiteGuy August 14th, 2015 at 08:14

              “Mysoganistic”
              Nice spelling, yutz.

        • Dwendt44 August 14th, 2015 at 01:09

          And she quickly dropped the subject when he posted his CLB on the internet, or when it was pointed out that since his mother was an American citizen, so was Obama. Republicans on the other hand still haven’t totally accepted the truth of the matter.

        • Darksnark August 14th, 2015 at 02:55

          Nope, Hillary Clinton and her people were not the first Birthers.

          A comment that was posted on a website called “The Volokh Conspiracy” served as the basis for allegations made by two posters with connections to the FreeRepublic website: http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2011/06/secret-origin-of-birthers.html

        • arc99 August 14th, 2015 at 09:38

          As noted below the storyline about birtherism originating from Hilary is bullsh*t of the highest order.

          And as usual, when confronted with facts, the President’s critics have no intelligent response whatsoever.

          • JM August 14th, 2015 at 09:49

            The issue came out in the primary. The London Telegraph does a pretty good job of laying out the timeline. That’s where it originated. Of course, a Clinton would never stoop so low to attain a political goal. That’s not their style.

        • arc99 August 14th, 2015 at 09:42

          btw, none of the President’s caucasian predecessors were accused of lying about their religious affiliation either.

          In my family, we were raised to never blame racism for our own personal shortcomings. But we were also taught that when the black person is treated differently than all the white people, raise hell.

          So if you can provide a reference to a white President being harassed about a birth certificate or accused of lying about his religion, please share it.

          Otherwise, please drop the bullsh*t about all criticism of the President being labeled as racism.

    • jasperjava August 13th, 2015 at 21:12

      What I’ve learned in the past eight years is that racist right-wing bigots like to disguise their irrational hatred of President Obama with attacks on “policy” that have no basis in fact. They substitute other kinds of bigoted epithets because they know it’s no longer socially acceptable to use the “N” word.

      • JM August 13th, 2015 at 21:28

        I’m guessing you don’t remember when folks not happy about the Iraq War, which was approved by Congress like we used to do, opposed every single policy by W Bush. It’s the same irrational hatred you’re railing on and now projecting as racism. It’s much more about identity politics in America than it is about racism.

        • The Original Just Me August 13th, 2015 at 23:50

          You’re pretty new at this aren’t you ?

          • JM August 14th, 2015 at 09:02

            The internet and I have both been around a long time.

            • The Original Just Me August 14th, 2015 at 10:14

              Operatives like you are not hired unless they are knowledgeable and experienced. I was referring to being on this space.

              • JM August 14th, 2015 at 11:51

                Operatives? I’m a fiscal conservative that is a social liberal. They don’t make political parties for people like me and they don’t hire people like me to be operatives.

                Yeah, never knew this website even existed until yesterday. I felt obliged to point out how criticizing one minority politician with angry rhetoric is considered racist yet using the same rhetoric directed at another minority politician is not at all racist. That doesn’t seem consistent to me, which is why I even bothered to comment to begin with.

        • MBJR August 14th, 2015 at 00:30

          Yea I remember folks not being “happy”
          about Bush taking us to an unjust war, that is still going on. And you seem
          happy that it was approved by congress, I call that a travesty. Then you seem
          miffed that people didn’t trust him after that. All your flowery antidotes are
          just window dressing to avoid the truth. No matter how you slice it, racism is
          alive and well in the great US of A. But I do understand, it’s not in your best
          interest to agree.

          • JM August 14th, 2015 at 09:01

            I did not support that war & I’m not happy about anyone approving it. But to say it’s one guy’s war when two majorities of over 500 people gave the OK is the definition of a flowery antidote.

            I don’t have a best interest limited to one side. I voted for Clinton twice, am pro- choice & pro gay, pro gay marriage and anti-religion. I take each issue individually. Today, most people rely on others to find out how they are supposed to view an issue, without actually researching the issue themselves. That’s identity politics

            • MBJR August 14th, 2015 at 10:12

              Ok, I see identity politics as a symptom of a bigger problem. Why don’t you tackle it from that angle. Does it happen because people don’t feel that they are being heard? Does it happen because people are afraid of change? It’s simple to point out a problem, it’s harder to solve it.

              • JM August 14th, 2015 at 12:05

                Identity politics is a horrid trend in America. Today, people read a news site to be told how they should feel about an issue versus doing their own research. The polarization of the media has enabled this behavior as well.

                I mentioned earlier here that I have degrees in Poly Sci and Am History. Yet, I’ll find myself debating the various effects of the Reconstruction Amendments with someone who can’t identify the 16th POTUS without a Google box. Think about that. Identity politics is ruining political discourse, original thought and eliminating compromise.

                In my opinion, the criticism Obama receives is mislabeled as racism when it really is much more about stifling the opposing party. This is simple a continuation of the post Iraq War treatment of Bush.

                Does racism exist? Of course. However, that dog whistle has been blown so many times that it loses it’s legitimacy each time it is used as a tactic. The ire shown by people here towards Dr Carson, and even myself, is the anger that is directed towards Obama and Bush. The only difference, it seems, is which side you’re screaming from.

                Thank you for the opportunity to discuss my opinion without insulting me. I appreciate it.

                • arc99 August 14th, 2015 at 14:58

                  Not President George W. Bush, nor any of the caucasian men who preceded Barack Obama in office, were accused of lying about their religion or faced demands for a birth certificate.

                  The pretense that these criticisms have no racial undertones is the kind of denial which tells me that many if not most people complaining about being called racist if they criticize President Obama are not looking at the issue honestly.

                  • JM August 14th, 2015 at 15:53

                    I’ll once again say that the criticism directed toward Obama and Bush are the same in vitriol. The only difference is which side is saying it and what that speaker’s justification is in doing so. It’s convenient to now be slandered as racist due to the race of the POTUS this time around.

                    If you notice in these comments, the vitriol directed towards Carson isn’t considered racist, due to the perceptions and justifications of the speaker.

                    For an exercise, take out the word “Carson” and insert “Obama” in these comments. No chance these people would say the same the same thing about both men. That’s how you know it’s identity politics and not racism fueling the vitriol. Does this make sense?

                    • arc99 August 14th, 2015 at 16:34

                      Does not make sense at all. Your avoidance of addressing the particular criticisms against the President that I find to be racist, and the fact that no such criticism was leveled at any white President makes a lot more sense.

                      Can’t use the n-word anymore, but one sure can insinuate the man is a Muslim ( a religious group it is ok to hate), and once can certainly imply that the man is not even biologically qualified to hold the office.

                      When the black guy is treated differently than all the white guys, it is not politics of any kind, identify or otherwise. It is the ugly bigotry that has pervaded this country for far too long.

                    • JM August 14th, 2015 at 16:48

                      I found this diatribe to indeed be patently absurd. Joe Louis? I can guarantee you one thing, he wasn’t a KKK 1930s loving Democrat.

                      Again, replace the word “Carson” with the word “Obama” in the comments in this thread and you would see the hate flow. But since the target is a Republican, pile on, make hateful remarks and act as if you suddenly have a right to criticize a minority politician THIS TIME.

                      I think we’ve reached an impasse. Good luck to you.

                    • arc99 August 14th, 2015 at 16:59

                      . You pointedly avoided any of the issues I raised and respond only with some lame irrelevance about the Democratic party of the 1930’s.

                      Whatever impasse there is comes from your pointed refusal to address my points on the birth certificate and the President’s religion.

                      No white President has ever been subject to that kind of personal attack. None of your “both sides do it ” spin will change that salient fact.

        • Hogandda August 14th, 2015 at 13:52

          The difference in the Democratic opposition was not based on irrational hatred. It was based on the truth that GWB and team lied us into war.

          • JM August 14th, 2015 at 14:04

            That’s your perception. You just justified YOUR hatred as acceptable because of an opinion you have. You could not possibly have made my point more clear about identity politics.

            • whatthe46 August 14th, 2015 at 14:19

              did GWB lie or not?

              • JM August 14th, 2015 at 14:28

                No. And he had the approval of Congress to conduct the military operation. I’m not fan of Bush or the Iraq War, but to pretend that the military action is solely on him shows a lack of understanding of a complex issue.

                • Budda August 14th, 2015 at 16:36

                  Congress approved because they were lied to.

                  • JM August 14th, 2015 at 16:37

                    Do you have proof they were willingly lied to? Or is that just your opinion?

                    • Budda August 14th, 2015 at 17:39

                      Do I have proof they were willingly lied too!!!!!!!!! Have you been living under a rock or been in a comma? Google is your friend.

                    • Robert Kennedy August 15th, 2015 at 00:32

                      Not only were they lied to but the few who were allowed to see the truth were threatened with prison if they disclosed the truth to ANYBODY. They knew quite well that they were lying. After the fact Colin Powell admitted it and was pissed because they had lied to him too, and he was made to look a fool because of his speeches backing them.

            • Hogandda August 14th, 2015 at 15:54

              Are you saying that GWB and team did not lie in its justification for invading Iraq?

              • JM August 14th, 2015 at 16:08

                Being wrong and knowingly lying are two different things. One is easy to prove and one is not.

                Besides, according to The New York Times, the WMDs were found in Iraq. Going to be tough to prove he knowingly lied. But proving something & saying something over and over until you, yourself, actually believe it are two different things. You may want to look at the term “Semantic satiation” and begin a self diagnosis…..

                So, to answer your question: Yes.

                • Budda August 14th, 2015 at 16:35

                  Cheney’s administration eluded to nuclear weapons and attacking America.

                  The ‘WMD’ supposedly found were spent poison gas canisters that were no longer viable.

                  Turn Fox off..you will feel better in a couple of days.

                  • JM August 14th, 2015 at 16:38

                    I won’t bend the knee to Cable TV and I voted for Bill Clinton twice. Heck, I’ve hung out on this site for two days!

                    You’ll have to try MUCH harder to make a sweeping generalization of my political discourse.

                    • Budda August 14th, 2015 at 17:37

                      I don’t have to try at all. You are trolling this site with your nonsense.

                  • JM August 14th, 2015 at 16:43

                    And I’m pro choice, anti religion and pro gay marriage. Not exactly FOX News talking points……..

                    • The Original Just Me August 14th, 2015 at 19:50

                      I think I will just follow your future comments and see where they lead my opinions. So far ZIP.

                • Hogandda August 14th, 2015 at 17:19

                  You might want to review this –

                  http://billmoyers.com/2014/06/27/the-lies-we-believed-and-still-believe-about-iraq/

            • Budda August 14th, 2015 at 16:31

              Big difference here. You are projecting others ‘hatred’ when in fact it was vocal opposition…some ..conservatives spew hatred rather that factual dislike over actions.

              Your post in fact show a little ‘hatred’ in tone.

              • JM August 14th, 2015 at 16:42

                shows a little hatred? How so? Perhaps you’ll notice here my policy of treating others on the internet as they treat me.

                Sounds like you’re rationalizing your Bush vitriol while decrying those that do so to Obama as ‘racist’. That’s the exact thing I’ve been pointing out since I’ve been here.

                • Budda August 14th, 2015 at 17:35

                  “Bush Vitriol” !? I don’t ‘hate’ him or even dislike him. I think he was just wrong and bad too often.

        • Dwendt44 August 15th, 2015 at 01:31

          The opposition was due to the fact that Bush was wrong about ‘every single policy’. We found out that he lied about the intel and that was proven. The lack of credibility of the ‘informant’ was erased from the reports when it was feed to Congress.

    • The Original Just Me August 14th, 2015 at 19:41

      When do you believe you will stop following the Birther Movement ?

  7. FatRat August 13th, 2015 at 14:12

    http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/unspinning-the-planned-parenthood-video/
    There is no financial benefit for tissue donation for either the patient or for Planned Parenthood. In some instances, actual costs, such as the cost to transport tissue to leading research centers, are reimbursed, which is standard across the medical field.

    I think that Carson is going to surrounded by protestors carrying igloos full of dry ice. Everyone is going to clamoring for his rationale for doing research.

    http://arcticdryiceinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/dry-ice-4.jpg

    http://i5.walmartimages.com/dfw/dce07b8c-eb10/k2-_a247befc-9730-4680-86f9-b0660ba58966.v1.jpg

    • tracey marie August 13th, 2015 at 14:30

      On brietbart he stated…I used a specimen” PP killed babies and sold their tissues.

      • FatRat August 13th, 2015 at 14:39

        If that’s his rationale, he is professing to be a modern day Dr. Robert Knox. lol

        Up the close and doun the stair,
        But and ben wi’ Burke and Hare.
        Burke’s the butcher, Hare’s the thief,
        Knox the boy that buys the beef.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burke_and_Hare_murders
        Burke and Hare murders

        • StoneyCurtisll August 13th, 2015 at 20:34

          Fascinating tale~!
          Well worth watching~!

    • StoneyCurtisll August 13th, 2015 at 20:28

      It’s a shame the fact checking has no bearing on what the GOP or their minions believe…
      Perception rules the day.

  8. azeyote August 13th, 2015 at 15:02

    can’t have it both ways doc.

  9. Dwendt44 August 13th, 2015 at 16:12

    Not surprised by the hypocrisy, it’s standard equipment for Republicans.

  10. NW10 August 13th, 2015 at 19:54

    And yet Ben, Trump, and Cruz continue to surge, which speaks volumes about the GOP.

  11. The Original Just Me August 13th, 2015 at 23:47

    This guy is just going to fall apart in time.

    • BigDumbWhiteGuy August 14th, 2015 at 08:10

      To anyone with a brain, he was never together in the first place.

      • The Original Just Me August 14th, 2015 at 10:17

        He is knowledgeable, experienced, and highly educated in his field. BUT, in politics, he is just another Tea Bagger.

  12. Darksnark August 14th, 2015 at 02:32

    So Ben Carson is a hypocrite, a homophobe, and a crackpot Bible-thumping Creationist.

    It’s no wonder he’s risen to the number-two position in the GOP approval polls; right behind a loudmouth Birther-bigot slumlord with the world’s weirdest comb-over….
    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b4/87/7b/b4877b573ef34f5c228e6c355613a21a.jpg

    • Chris King August 14th, 2015 at 14:52

      and you are a bigot. you proved it above.
      thanks. world needs less of you.

      • Budda August 14th, 2015 at 16:25

        and you are a troll..go back under your bridge

        • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 12:40

          brilliant… you favor bigots over “trolls”
          wow, even if you were right.

          • Budda August 15th, 2015 at 15:06

            It would appear that you are both a bigot and a troll. I, however, favor neither.

            By the way, you are a very weak troll.

            • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 15:13

              “it” “would” appear? bhwhawhawhawhaw
              you voted for who your masters told you to vote for.
              you are a simple little brain.
              what an ego to consider yourself budda… good joke, I laugh at you.

              • Budda August 15th, 2015 at 15:18

                The name does not refer to the enlightened one, notice the spelling.
                By using the word ‘appear’ I was politely not referring to you as an ass.

                • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 15:23

                  so you admit, you are not the enlightened one…. good start.

                  • Budda August 15th, 2015 at 15:29

                    whathe46 is right…way over your head

                    • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 15:34

                      yeah, sure …. I totally believe you could imagine the world over my head.
                      the tiny brained failed insults do not work, leftist.

                    • Budda August 15th, 2015 at 16:54

                      Sorry, I was getting ready to go out to dinner tonight. I hope you enjoy your ‘Hungry Man TV dinner” that Mom will bring you in your basement abode.

                    • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 16:57

                      sure you were… real hot girl, right?
                      you liar. so completely stupid to even posture such a suggestion. you dolt.

                • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 15:23

                  go look up valarie jarrett’s background…. it will hurt, but you will be less ignorant.

                  • whatthe46 August 15th, 2015 at 15:28

                    no wonder you’re so out of touch with reality, you are a conspiracy theorist.

                    • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 15:28

                      you don’t know jarrett is a CURRENT MEMBER of the muslim sisterhood?
                      it’s no theory.

                    • Budda August 15th, 2015 at 15:31

                      You actually buy into that? And you claim to be a MD and a phd!

                      We had another Ph. d here…he was a Pretty heavy drinker too.

                    • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 15:34

                      I know that’s what the muslim sisterhood says TODAY.
                      I know that, at stanford, she was president of the US chapter.
                      I know those things to be facts.
                      have you don’t your research?

                    • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 15:36

                      voir dire my knowledge…. phd is in organic chemistry.
                      go on, try me.

                    • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 15:37

                      I bet you don’t even know how to formulate google proof questions in medicine or chemistry.
                      you are my intellectual inferior…. while you were thinking you were smart…. I was studying.
                      you are little little person.

                    • whatthe46 August 15th, 2015 at 15:37

                      loser. hehehehe. oh my GOD you are so pathetic.

                    • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 15:57

                      so you don’t KNOW jarrett’s background?
                      why did you vote for her then?

                    • whatthe46 August 15th, 2015 at 16:00

                      loser.

                    • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 16:03

                      you voted for her

                    • Robert Kennedy August 16th, 2015 at 10:22

                      No, it’s not a theory, it’s a lie. You can’t read wingnut sites and believe anything there. They kick you off for telling the truth.

                    • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 11:04

                      don’t ever care what a kennedy says.

                    • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 11:06

                      locked account liar leftist trash.
                      you mean nothing to anyone.
                      rot, you obama voting muslim sisterhood protecting traitor.

                  • jasperjava August 16th, 2015 at 22:37

                    Myth, BUSTED

                    http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/jarrettislam.asp

                    • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 22:47

                      you and craig have same IP addy.
                      multiple ID using scum.

                    • craig7120 August 16th, 2015 at 22:52

                      That’s the nicest thing anyone has said to me today, except when my daughter said, I love you, Dad

                      Thank you, Christ King

                      By the same token, sorry JJ lol

                    • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 22:55

                      you use multiple IDs for the purpose of self promotion and deception.

                    • craig7120 August 16th, 2015 at 23:00

                      You’re funny, no dude, you’re incorrect but that’s ok

                    • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 23:04

                      you use multiple IDs for the purpose of self promotion and deception.

                    • craig7120 August 16th, 2015 at 23:32

                      You’re repeating yourself, sign of paranoia. Hey, partner, mellow a bit and take a break from all the attention you’ve been receiving, it’s like circuit overload if one’s not used to all the stimuli.

                    • Chris King August 17th, 2015 at 10:48

                      ignore

                    • craig7120 August 16th, 2015 at 22:57

                      The Christ is not a typo, it was my way of a compliment.

                    • jasperjava August 17th, 2015 at 01:17

                      Careful, he has delusions of godhood already.

                    • jasperjava August 17th, 2015 at 01:01

                      Uh, no. You better check whatever software you’re using. Not working.

                    • bpollen August 17th, 2015 at 02:05

                      I connect via multiple computers, and have a dynamic IP via my ISP. Additionally, with some of them I connect with use a VPN which changes each time I connect to the ‘net, and those IPs are shared…

                      Or, to put it succinctly, even if they DO use the same IP, that does NOT prove that they are the same people. A little knowledge in the wrong hands… and it becomes a conspiracy theory!

                    • jasperjava August 17th, 2015 at 08:47

                      So maybe you and I are the same person, and right now I’m talking to myself.

                      My head hurts.

                    • craig7120 August 17th, 2015 at 09:24

                      Thanks for the reality check, being JJ was a wonderful ride, but the pressure was to great, although the coffee was awesome.
                      JJ got the bad end of that comparison. I can’t believe the dude went mental before our eyes.
                      He needs to bring his A game next time he takes on the likes of Jasper or yourself who could be one in the same.

                      I call dibs on being Jaz next time, she’s a free spirit with lots of love and patience.

                    • Chris King August 17th, 2015 at 10:48

                      ignored

                    • bpollen August 17th, 2015 at 01:56

                      Wow, a VPN must baffle the hell outta you…

                    • Chris King August 17th, 2015 at 10:47

                      ignore

                    • bpollen August 17th, 2015 at 15:55

                      You’re up to 15!!!!!!!!!! different times you tell me you are ignoring me. When somebody sticks their fingers in their ears, cries “I can’t HEAR you! Lalalalalala…,” and follows you around to KEEP blathering about how they aren’t listening, not only do they look VERY childish, they also highlight the fact that the foot-stomping tantrum is the BEST weapon they have when people disagree or call them on their spurious claims.

                      Doctor Doctor, I think I hear yer mommie calling and she sounds PISSED!!!

                    • Chris King August 17th, 2015 at 15:59

                      ignored

                    • bpollen August 17th, 2015 at 16:01

                      Sixteen times! You SUCK at ignoring!

                    • Chris King August 17th, 2015 at 16:17

                      ignore

                    • bpollen August 17th, 2015 at 16:20

                      17 times!!!

                      C’mon, ignore me some more times and continue to prove that you have NOTHING better! Nothing says “I’ve got a point” like childish behavior!

                    • Chris King August 17th, 2015 at 16:26

                      ignored

                    • bpollen August 17th, 2015 at 16:27

                      18 times!!!!

                      Are Chwis’s feewings hurt? Maybe our little buddy needs a nap?

                    • Chris King August 17th, 2015 at 16:33

                      ignore

                    • bpollen August 17th, 2015 at 16:44

                      You know, when you keep TELLING me that you are ignoring me, you aren’t ACTUALLY ignoring me? You can’t reply and ignore… and probably can’t walk and chew gum.

                      19 times you have made a point of REPLYING that you are ignoring me. If this were an actual “ignore” situation, you would have said it ONCE. The other 18 times shows perfectly clearly that you are NOT ignoring me.

                      Boy, some people have such problems with basic things like words and facts…

                    • Chris King August 17th, 2015 at 17:19

                      ignored

                    • craig7120 August 16th, 2015 at 22:49

                      Its not a lie if you believe it

                      Sincerely,

                      George Constanza circa 1996

                • whatthe46 August 15th, 2015 at 15:25

                  way over his head Budda.

      • Merlin August 15th, 2015 at 12:18

        Spew.

      • tracey marie August 15th, 2015 at 12:37

        troll

        • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 12:42

          and you favor the bigot… you are the problem.

  13. allison1050 August 14th, 2015 at 09:19

    That was different ’cause he’s ‘special’!

    • Chris King August 14th, 2015 at 14:52

      was different, because it is not a comparable situation.
      if you had cared to consider carson’s rebuttle, which you haven’t, you’d KNOW you have been lied to.
      you believe the lies you think fit your narrative.

      • allison1050 August 14th, 2015 at 18:19

        Don’t you just love the word assume? ;o/

        • Merlin August 15th, 2015 at 12:17

          Never assume, it makes an ass of U and me…

          • allison1050 August 15th, 2015 at 13:54

            Now try telling Chris King that ’cause he’s missed the meaning and sarcasm all the way.

        • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 12:39

          I love being correct in my assumptions too, I win.

      • The Original Just Me August 14th, 2015 at 19:37

        Believe lies ? I doubt that very few if any of the Real People here even watch FAUX News.

        • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 12:38

          no fox news in 6 years.
          so old a line, so old, so leftist, so lame.

          • Dwendt44 August 15th, 2015 at 13:20

            You can get the same crap load of nonsense from Limpball or insHannity, are any of a couple of dozen other right wing propaganda spewers.

            • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 13:55

              yep, everything is insane but you.
              righto, sure… that makes sense.
              did they give you a NOT insane badge too?

              • Dwendt44 August 15th, 2015 at 14:01

                I don’t base my opinion on idle speculations, gossip, rumor, or wishful thinking, or outright lies, so I’m qualified for the ‘not insane’ badge if there is such a thing.

                • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 14:03

                  omg, you don’t even get the context of the joke?
                  laughing in your face. stop it child.

                  • Dwendt44 August 15th, 2015 at 14:23

                    Laugh up your sleeve. You are about as ‘funny’ as Carson is believable.

                    • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 14:31

                      you voted for obama, twice…. you’ll believe anything you’re told.

      • Dwendt44 August 15th, 2015 at 01:27

        That wasn’t a ‘rebuttal’, It was some fancy tap dancing.

        • cecilia August 15th, 2015 at 10:04

          too bad the teabaggers won’t Shuffle Off To Buffalo

          • Robert Kennedy August 15th, 2015 at 10:56

            Hey, they would ruin Buffalo Wings. How about they shuffle off to Montgomery. Nothing there to damage any more than it’s already been done.

            • cecilia August 15th, 2015 at 12:03

              eh, “Shuffle Off To Buffalo” is a tap step

              https://youtu.be/EI6weG9_qK8?t=49s

              • Robert Kennedy August 16th, 2015 at 10:04

                I know, I was just making a joke.

                • cecilia August 16th, 2015 at 16:49

                  ah….I think this is a case of – hard to know what people mean without hearing the tone of the voice.

                  One of the problems of the internet

        • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 12:37

          you didn’t even hear carson’s rebuttle…. you have identified yourself as a liar.

          • tracey marie August 15th, 2015 at 12:37

            you identified yourself as a troll, go back to brietbart.

            • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 12:42

              are you telling me what I identified myself as?
              ahahahahahah, leftard

              • billr August 15th, 2015 at 18:33

                Your words give you away, little troll.

          • jasperjava August 16th, 2015 at 15:29

            I laugh at how this supposed M.D./Ph.D, doesn’t know how to spell “rebuttal”.

            • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 15:35

              test me… PhD is in organic chem.
              go…. or hush it typo hunter… how weak you are already.

              • jasperjava August 16th, 2015 at 17:00

                Sorry, but you don’t sound very well-educated. Your replies are like Donald Trump’s speech pattern, stuck at a third-grade level.

                Even if you WERE a Ph.D. in organic chemistry (and I still don’t believe that you are), that doesn’t make you an expert on politics. It shows in the poor quality of your comments, that are based more on hate than on rational arguments.

                • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 17:31

                  you can’t even formulate a google proof question… you moron

                  • jasperjava August 16th, 2015 at 21:34

                    You’re a sad, pathetic little man. Here’s why.

                    I freely admit that I know very little about organic chemistry. If that makes me a moron, I’m in good company, because the vast majority of people are in the same category, including folks who are geniuses in a multitude of other disciplines. My particular field of interest is modern languages, and I speak five languages with a working level of fluency. I also studied political science and history, and have an Honors degree in Asian studies. I wouldn’t ask you to give me a Google-proof question about the early Tang Dynasty, because I know you would have to go to Google to do research on that. I wouldn’t call you a moron for not knowing about it, either.

                    And this is what makes me a better person than you, and better-educated. Education isn’t only a question of receiving a degree. It’s also the way you interact with other people. You come across as a nasty, bitter, angry, hateful, despicable, ungrateful little man. I don’t know if you’re an M.D. or a Ph.D.; what I do know is that you are a miserable excuse for a human being.

                    You accuse the President of the United States of being a traitor. You present no evidence of this. President Obama was twice elected by a majority of voters. According to polls, most people consider that he is doing a good job. He is well-respected, except by small, narrow-minded people. He comports himself with tremendous grace in the face of rabid opposition. He is a model husband and father. He has made positive changes in domestic policy, foreign policy, and the economy.

                    The fact that you refuse to acknowledge this shows that you harbor irrational hatred against the man. You feel the need to lash out at his supporters without a coherent argument, and this shows that you are ignorant of politics and simply need to vent your bile.

                    I know that you’re just a troll and you will soon be banned. But I just want to tell you that you will continue to feel miserable, because history has passed you by. People like you are quickly disappearing. If you only tried to let go of your hate, you may find some peace. You seem to be a very troubled, tortured soul. My advice, which I’m sure you’ll reject, is to get some help before your hate consumes you. Take it or leave it as you wish.

                    • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 21:36

                      you cannot even challenge my knowledge.
                      you are beneath me.

                    • jasperjava August 16th, 2015 at 21:54

                      I don’t wish to challenge your knowledge. I wish to assess your mental health.

                      I am concerned that you may be mentally ill. Your posts make you seem like you’re in a psychotic rage. I think you are too far gone to heed my advice, but I urge you to seek professional help.

                      You appear to have severe personality disorders, including extreme narcissism. You seem to think you have hidden godlike knowledge that “inferior” beings cannot possess.

                      It’s people like you who are attracted to right-wing fascist movements, and this is why you hate liberals.

                    • craig7120 August 16th, 2015 at 22:15

                      Hey lil fella, flipping the bird to your betters? Yeah, not much attention in your world this weekend? It’s ok, JJ and I and others on liberaland are constantly reminded by kids like you, why the liberal cause is the right path to follow, and why education in any level is important for the mind. You’re being bested with sarcasm, manners, wit and sympathy, you truly represent yourself as a very sad case. I blame your parents.

                      As-salamu alaykum
                      Be safe little dude

                    • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 22:18

                      ignore

                    • craig7120 August 16th, 2015 at 22:38

                      C’mon, don’t be mad
                      I’m sorry for the parent crack
                      I’m sure your parents are wonderful people.

                      Friends? I coached kids soccer in my younger days and was a big bother to the ones that had a troubled home, I hope your anger and anti-social behavior isn’t a result from an abused home. Seriously, JJ might well be right about your mental makeup. I don’t need that kind of guilt on my heart.

                    • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 22:46

                      ignored.

                • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 17:52

                  I don’t “sound” to you?
                  are you hearing things?
                  you idiot

      • Merlin August 15th, 2015 at 12:16

        More spew.

  14. Judgeforyourself37 August 14th, 2015 at 12:17

    I am glad that Dr. Carson was able to utilize donated fetal/embryonic tissue to further medical research. Now he must change his tune on women’s reproductive rights. He cannot have it both ways.

    • Chris King August 14th, 2015 at 14:51

      you obviously, like the author, know NOTHING about this issue at all.
      less than nothing… you are buying the spew.

      • Budda August 14th, 2015 at 16:24

        How much do you need to know about medical research to like it?

        Let me guess; you are not pro choice, am I right?

        • Dwendt44 August 15th, 2015 at 01:25

          I’m inclined to think he’s anti-freedom. Like most conservatives, ‘freedom’ means THEIR freedom, not yours.

        • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 12:40

          I am a multi published MD/phd.
          and you…. a layperson.
          you voted obama, a traitor, twice… you are the problem.

          • whatthe46 August 15th, 2015 at 14:55

            liar!

            • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 14:57

              brilliant discussion there leftist.
              you must have so many obama voting group thinktard “friends”.

              • whatthe46 August 15th, 2015 at 15:01

                butthurt huh? OBAMA’s the MAN!

                • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 15:02

                  jarrett runs the white house…. if you don’t know that… very sad for you.
                  did you know that jarrett is a CURRENT MEMBER of the muslim sisterhood?

                  • Budda August 15th, 2015 at 15:13

                    You really are a nut case to buy into that kind of crap.

                    • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 15:14

                      yeah, really matters that an obamavoter calls someone “nut case”.
                      you voted for a traitor, dummy, wake up.

                    • Budda August 15th, 2015 at 15:22

                      You don’t know how I voted…you appear delusional.

                      Specifically, enumerate one thing Obama has done that would make him a traitor.

                    • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 15:25

                      he has a member of the muslim sisterhood as his primary adviser.
                      a CURRENT MEMBER of the muslim sisterhood.
                      he has opened the border to invasion.
                      he has militarized the EPA.
                      shall I continue?

                    • craig7120 August 15th, 2015 at 19:14

                      Continue?
                      Of course but I will finish your rant with……..And President Obama beat the gop twice, lol so that makes you and other Obama haters losers, not once but twice. If what you say is true, that means voters would rather live under what you describe as horrible living conditions than to vote for a republican. Chew on that 25watt.
                      You all don’t need any help, the gop is in wonderful shape. Poor soul, it’s all liberals fault, and you’re to stupid to figure out how to beat the dems in a general election. My advice is keep what you’re doing, it seems to be swaying a lot of dem voters on this site.

                      or you’re a liberal pranking the board?

                      Be safe

                    • whatthe46 August 15th, 2015 at 19:30

                      i so hope that shuts him up. but why do i get the feeling that he’s gonna respond? geez.

                    • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 21:39

                      you cannot finish anything for me.
                      a list is not a rant.
                      you are not intelligent.

                    • craig7120 August 15th, 2015 at 23:08

                      Oh little one, you talk all grown up. Your insecurity gives it away, you’re young, really young. But to the point, is it really that bad losing to a dem or is it something more?

                    • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 23:10

                      talk? are you hearing thing? this is a type written discussion board.

                    • craig7120 August 15th, 2015 at 23:50

                      Very good, forgive me, it was my mistake for assuming you were older, usually grown ups stick with the topic but yes you’re right the words are typed. Gold Star for you young man, very soon you will be taken seriously by your peers then you can have grown up conversations with adults. I’m so proud of young gop fans knowing where to go for proper development.
                      Welcome, now be a good boy and don’t interrupt the liberal scholars who have already taught you a valuable lesson.

                    • Robert Kennedy August 16th, 2015 at 10:20

                      Really? How can you teach a conservative? they only believe lies and their sites have that covered.

                    • craig7120 August 16th, 2015 at 12:21

                      I know, right
                      But some like little Chris here needs guidance, those formative years can be tough on the young. He’s in the right place, when he learns manners and how to address adults he will learn that fear and hate is a hard and awful way to live.

                    • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 11:06

                      you think you stuck to the topic?
                      wow, lie to yourself often?

                    • craig7120 August 16th, 2015 at 11:59

                      Hey sleepy head, eat your cereal? Clean your room?
                      Chores come first, get to work for that allowance.

                      What a scamp, kids these days, some are so needy.

                  • whatthe46 August 15th, 2015 at 15:21

                    OBAMA IS THE MAN! your PRESIDENT and you can’t stand it. butthurt.

                    • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 15:22

                      very brilliant argument.
                      he’s a traitor, and you think he’s the man… kinda makes you a traitor too.

                    • whatthe46 August 15th, 2015 at 15:39

                      OBAMA!!! THE MAN!!!

                    • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 15:56

                      very intelligent

                    • whatthe46 August 15th, 2015 at 16:01

                      he so is!

                    • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 16:05

                      yes, we know you love and voted obama…. makes you a traitor.

                    • whatthe46 August 15th, 2015 at 16:12

                      HE’S THE MAN! i loves me some Obama.

                    • Robert Kennedy August 16th, 2015 at 10:11

                      Reagan was a traitor with his arms for payment for holding the hostages until after the election and for supplying Iraq with poison gas. Obama’s treason? Tell us about it. It isn’t true.

                    • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 11:05

                      dirty liar

                  • Robert Kennedy August 16th, 2015 at 10:18

                    I assume you’re quoting lying right wing nut sources that say she’s Muslim (which wouldn’t be a problem anyway)because she was born in Iran? She was born there to American parents because her father was a doctor helping to modernize Iran’s medical service. Something someone as selfish as you (if you really are a doctor, which no one here believes) would ever do.

                    • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 11:04

                      assume away, couldn’t care what a stupid liar leftist thinks of me.

                    • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 11:05

                      nope… that’s not what daddy was doing in iran…. I was in iran, I was doing surgery with the chair at the U of tehran…. you’re a liar.
                      you are dirt.
                      dirty little liar trash

          • Budda August 15th, 2015 at 15:02

            I call Bull Shit on the MD/phd. You don’t sound very educated.
            A mere layperson… you say that like it is a negative. By the way, you know nothing about me and my education/background.

            Saying Obama is a traitor shows an ignorance beyond any kind of rationality.

          • billr August 15th, 2015 at 18:29

            If you want to talk REAL traitors let’s start with Reagan then carry on with Duhbya. My only regret in my old age is I know I won’t be traveling to California to piss on Reagan’s grave.

          • Robert Kennedy August 16th, 2015 at 10:08

            If you are a MD you are the most misinformed one around, in a class with Carson as far as knowledge outside your ideology.
            Do any of your patients live?

          • William August 16th, 2015 at 16:55

            Please furnish a list of your publications, so we can all enjoy them.

          • bpollen August 16th, 2015 at 18:06

            Education and stupid obviously can exist within the same person. So, even if you ARE a professional (as believable as Dianetics) medical person/thing, that doesn’t prevent you from being stupid. You would think that a supposedly learned, educated, knowledgeable person would be able to write better than the average 5th grader. Grammar, punctuation, logic, consistency… shouldn’t those be present in “medical” (heheheh) papers?

            • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 18:20

              ignored

              • bpollen August 16th, 2015 at 18:28

                Sniff… I am SOOOO devastated! Doctor Doctor won’t shower me with his insight and erudition! I’ll NEVER learn how to act like a pompous Doctor Doctor Walter Mitty type! However will I learn how to post like a semi-literate 8th grader? Oh, PLEEEEZE, Doctor Doctor Troll, don’t you do it!

                • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 18:31

                  ingore

                  • whatthe46 August 16th, 2015 at 18:33

                    ah ha. you have been bitched slapped into one word responses.

                    • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 18:33

                      ignored

                    • whatthe46 August 16th, 2015 at 18:35

                      yet you respond. do you know what “ignore” means?

                    • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 18:36

                      ignored

                • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 18:33

                  ignore

              • bpollen August 16th, 2015 at 18:28

                Sniff… I am SOOOO devastated! Doctor Doctor won’t shower me with his insight and erudition! I’ll NEVER learn how to act like a pompous Doctor Doctor Walter Mitty type! However will I learn how to post like a semi-literate 8th grader? Oh, PLEEEEZE, Doctor Doctor Troll, don’t you do it!

      • The Original Just Me August 14th, 2015 at 19:40

        True most of us here do not get Propaganda letters of comment instruction from our Block Party Propaganda Minister.

        • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 12:37

          so, you admit you don’t know this article, or carson’s research at all.
          you obviously don’t even how names are listed on a paper.
          thank you for making it obvious who the idiots are here.

          • tracey marie August 15th, 2015 at 12:38

            brietbart is calling you

            • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 12:42

              more leftard brilliance… this is great stuff… more more

              • tracey marie August 15th, 2015 at 14:25

                teabagger is upset.

                • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 14:30

                  yeah, you upset me, so sure.

              • bpollen August 16th, 2015 at 18:01

                “more leftard brilliance…”

                WOW! Combining “left” with “retard”…. However can anyone stand against such a subtle wit as yourself?

            • billr August 15th, 2015 at 18:26

              He changed his name. It’s now Deadbart

          • bpollen August 16th, 2015 at 17:59

            Just so I can understand, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

            “…names are listed on paper”???

            What friggin’ names? What friggin’ paper? How are they listed on paper? THE FRICKIN’ WAY THEY WERE WRITTEN!

            “so, you admit you don’t know this article, or carson’s research at all.”

            Based on his statement that he doesn’t get the same propaganda you do? Again, what the hell are you talking about? Your conclusion bears no relation to the statement you replied to…

            “thank you for making it obvious who the idiots are here.”

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

            • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 18:03

              ignoring the ranting leftist…. now

              • bpollen August 16th, 2015 at 18:12

                Can’t refute me, so you call names. MD/PHD? Then you are a disgrace to BOTH kinds of doctors…

      • Merlin August 15th, 2015 at 12:16

        According to your comment list, you ARE the spew.

    • cecilia August 15th, 2015 at 10:03

      if you aren’t joking please do NOT use any medicine or medical procedure. To do so would be hypocrisy.
      You don’t deserve to benefit from the work of science if you disrespect it

  15. Chris King August 14th, 2015 at 14:53

    unreal, simply staggering…. the layperson conclusions drawn by this layperson “gotcha” author.
    a shame that anyone reads this abject garbage.

    • The Original Just Me August 14th, 2015 at 19:36

      I bet you believed every word of the Extremely Obviously DOCTORED Video put out by the Tea Party Activists about the PP selling baby parts, which is a PROVEN LIE.

      • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 12:38

        you have nothing of value to bet.

        • tracey marie August 15th, 2015 at 12:38

          you have no value, period.

          • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 12:41

            so you lost the argument?
            thanks for verifying

        • billr August 15th, 2015 at 18:23

          There are others here that do. Name your bet.

          • Chris King August 15th, 2015 at 19:05

            layers of you idiots?

            • bpollen August 16th, 2015 at 17:53

              I do believe you are tucking your tail between your legs here… Afraid to put up or shut up, so you just resort to name-calling?

              • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 17:54

                enough child

                • bpollen August 16th, 2015 at 18:10

                  OK, you ARE askeered… The best that a ‘mutli published MD/Phd is name calling sans proper sentence structure, punctuation, capitalization… Did you graduate from Billy Bob’s Skool of Meddisin and Lube Shop? Graduate with honors, maggot cum loudly?

    • pitman45 August 16th, 2015 at 15:34

      Do you always not know what you’re talking about or is it too difficult for you to make any sense whatsoever?

      • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 15:38

        way ahead of this board and its author.
        what do you want to know more about stem cell research? biochem? medicine?

        • pitman45 August 16th, 2015 at 15:49

          You’re awful at grammar and sentence composition, aren’t you Chris?
          You were Texas schooled, weren’t you? Come on, be honest. You can admit you’re ignorant.

          • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 15:55

            oh, you’re the same tool I dressed down yesterday, aren’t you?
            multiple ID tool. buh bye.

            • pitman45 August 16th, 2015 at 16:13

              Multi published? In what, internet trolling?. You’re not very bright, are you Chris?

              • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 16:14

                you write w multiple IDs

                • pitman45 August 16th, 2015 at 16:28

                  If anyone reading this thread can translate what Chris King of the trolls wrote, please do.

                  • whatthe46 August 16th, 2015 at 16:39

                    by all accounts, no one here has the ability to translate STUPID. so, you’re outta luck.

                  • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 17:32

                    you use multiple IDs

              • whatthe46 August 16th, 2015 at 16:21

                that thing says the same to me. it has serious issues.

      • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 15:59

        you are upvoting your own posts with your alternate ID?
        wow, you are some sorta pitiful human waste.

        • pitman45 August 16th, 2015 at 16:24

          Alternate I D? Chris, what’s the name of the alternate universe you live in? Is that where you perform your medical procedures? Can you perform brain surgery on yourself? You could clear out the excrement that’s enveloped your brain.

          • whatthe46 August 16th, 2015 at 16:28

            lol. he keeps saying that to me so i just said, fine, you busted me.

  16. OldLefty August 14th, 2015 at 18:05

    “Ben Carson Did Research On Aborted Fetal Tissue”
    _____

    Of course he did.
    He knows better.
    He assumes his followers do not.

  17. Robert Kennedy August 15th, 2015 at 10:54

    Planned Parenthood at Risk
    George P. Topulos, M.D., Michael F. Greene, M.D., and Jeffrey M. Drazen, M.D.
    Planned Parenthood is under attack — again.
    This time, a campaign of misinformation about
    the retrieval of fetal tissue used in research and
    therapy is the excuse. When women have made
    the decision to terminate a pregnancy, Planned
    Parenthood allows them the opportunity to have
    the fetal tissue that would otherwise be discarded
    be used by qualified researchers to help
    answer important medical questions. The organization
    does so carefully, following all applicable
    laws and ethical guidelines. In a Perspective
    article now published in the Journal, Charo
    presents compelling arguments defending these
    uses of fetal tissue.1 Planned Parenthood, its
    physicians, and the researchers who do this work
    should be praised, not damned. The research is
    not easy to do, but as Charo explains, it has benefited
    millions of people worldwide. If the antichoice
    forces were allowed to rule the day, these
    advances would never have been made.
    We strongly support Planned Parenthood not
    only for its efforts to channel fetal tissue into
    important medical research but also for its other
    work as one of the country’s largest providers of
    health care for women, especially poor women.
    In 2013, the most recent year for which data are
    available, Planned Parenthood provided services
    to 2.7 million women, men, and young people
    during 4.6 million health center visits. At least
    60% of these patients benefited from public
    health coverage programs such as the nation’s
    family-planning program (Title X) and Medicaid.
    At least 78% of these patients lived with incomes
    at or below 150% of the federal poverty level.
    Planned Parenthood’s services included nearly
    400,000 Pap tests, nearly 500,000 breast examinations,
    nearly 4.5 million tests for sexually
    transmitted illnesses (including HIV), and treatments.
    2,3 The contraception services that Planned
    Parenthood delivers may be the single greatest
    effort to prevent the unwanted pregnancies that
    result in abortions.
    It is shameful that a radical antichoice group
    whose goal is the destruction of Planned Parenthood
    continues to twist the facts to achieve its
    ends. We thank the women who made the choice
    to help improve the human condition through
    their tissue donation; we applaud the people who
    make this work possible and those who use
    these materials to advance human health. We are
    outraged by those who debase these women, this
    work, and Planned Parenthood by distorting the
    facts for political ends.
    Dr. Topulos reports serving as a volunteer member of the
    medical committees of both Planned Parenthood League of
    Massachusetts and Planned Parenthood Federation of America.
    Disclosure forms provided by the authors are available with
    the full text of this article at NEJM.org.
    From the Department of Anaesthesia, Harvard Medical School,
    and the Department of Anesthesiology, Perioperative and Pain
    Medicine, Brigham and Women’s Hospital (G.P.T.); and the Department
    of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Massachusetts General
    Hospital (M.F.G.) — all in Boston.
    This article was published on August 12, 2015, at NEJM.org.
    1. Charo RA. Fetal tissue fallout. N Engl J Med. DOI: 10.1056/
    NEJMp1510279.
    2. Planned Parenthood Federation of America. Our health, our
    decisions, our moment. 2013–2014 Annual report (http://
    plannedparenthood .org/ files/ 6714/ 1996/ 2641/ 2013-2014_
    Annual_Report_FINAL_WEB_VERSION .pdf).
    3. Planned Parenthood Federation of America. By the numbers.
    July 2015 (http://plannedparenthood .org/ files/ 3314/ 3638/ 1447/
    PP_Numbers .pdf).
    DOI: 10.1056/NEJMe1510281
    Copyright © 2015

    • billr August 15th, 2015 at 18:21

      Forget it, the GOP is just trying to kill off the sick, the old and poor. That’s the reason they are the anti-science party.

  18. blockpasser August 15th, 2015 at 11:19

    Putting the moral risks aside for a minute (pointless to discuss morality with a libbie), is it more likely Dr. Carson discovers something of net positive social, commercial and medical value in fetus tissue, or a planned parenthood bureaucrat going on a lunch date to sell it under the table?

    Have planned parenthood officials had their income taxes reviewed?

    • Budda August 15th, 2015 at 15:09

      Your error is that PP isn’t selling.

      ( It is so pointless to discuss facts with teabaggers )

      • whatthe46 August 15th, 2015 at 15:23

        facts? what in the hell are facts?

      • blockpasser August 17th, 2015 at 13:20

        It’s Hillary Clinton’s server’s fault!

    • billr August 15th, 2015 at 18:12

      It’s always do as I say and not what I do with you GOPT Fascist. And we don’t accept doctored up video by your side’s criminals any more than we accepted Breitbart and criminal James O’Keefe’s (phony pimp) videos about Acorn and Shirley Sherrod that left Breitbart and Fox News with egg on their faces.

      • blockpasser August 17th, 2015 at 13:20

        John 12:6 sums up Democrats to a tee.

    • Robert Kennedy August 16th, 2015 at 10:05

      t is pointless to discuss morality with a “libbie” because nobody on your side is moral.

    • jasperjava August 16th, 2015 at 15:21

      That makes no sense. Scientific research is potentially valuable, whether it’s performed by Dr. Carson or some other scientist obtaining fetal tissue from Planned Parenthood.

      I’d be more inclined to think that the fetal tissue that PP sells will end up providing better scientific results, because I have serious doubts about Ben Carson’s sanity.

      • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 15:36

        so should we use the data the nazi’s collected?
        or should we condemn it for their methods?
        do you understand the very basics of pandora’s paradox?
        nah, you’re simple…. your “discussion” feed is full of 8th grade weakling stuff.

        • William August 16th, 2015 at 16:40

          It just wouldn’t be a proper Beck-fed paranoid troll rant without a Nazi or Hitler reference would it?

          • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 17:32

            you don’t see the importance of the philosophical question?
            shame on you, shame.

            • bpollen August 16th, 2015 at 18:32

              Don’t you see the importance of capitalization?

              Shame on you, shame.

              • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 18:32

                ignored

                • bpollen August 16th, 2015 at 18:33

                  Doctor Doctor sez he ignores me, but has to reply to TELL me that he is ignoring me. Multiple times. Doctor Doctor needs a dictionotomy…

                  • whatthe46 August 16th, 2015 at 18:34

                    i’m cracking up. doctor dumb is more like it.

                  • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 18:36

                    ignored

              • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 18:33

                ignored

                • bpollen August 16th, 2015 at 18:35

                  Doctor Doctor One Trick Pony pays enough attention to me to keep telling me that he is ignoring me in responses to multiple posts. Doctor Doctor One Trick Pony obviously doesn’t understand what “ignore” means.

                  • whatthe46 August 16th, 2015 at 18:36

                    splat, i just said that to him as well. he would know if he could only google. lol

                  • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 18:36

                    ignore

        • bpollen August 16th, 2015 at 17:49

          We HAVE used data the Nazi’s collected. “Should” doesn’t enter into it now, because it is ALREADY a fait accompli….

          And, just so you know, Pandora Paradox is a blog. Pandora’s BOX is part of a fairy tale. And most of us understand the basics of fairy tales. Luddites could use that fairy tale to rail against ALL knowledge… How would one differentiate you from those luddites?

          • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 17:51

            SHOULD WE USE IT… present tense.
            are you dumb?

            • bpollen August 16th, 2015 at 18:18

              WE HAVE USED IT! Can you read? If we have used it, it is contained within our current knowledge set. Kinda like Mendel’s studies – that data has been incorporated into “present tense” science. Or Leeuwenhoek.

              “are you dumb?”

              Yeah, you’re a doctor all right. But not even as good as this one:

              https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/94972c3fa8baee9240a60b13ecf6627186f74e00e54b019a47e200fe2d3d7015.jpg

              • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 18:20

                ignore

                • bpollen August 16th, 2015 at 18:22

                  HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

                  Doctor,Doctor, Please…. As that great medical ethicist said “what a maroon.”

                  • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 18:32

                    ignore

                    • bpollen August 16th, 2015 at 18:32

                      Now you are a one trick pony. Doctor Doctor One Trick Pony…

                    • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 18:33

                      ignore

                • bpollen August 16th, 2015 at 18:30

                  I think your “ignore” button is stuck. And your shift key appears to be broken too. Or do Doctor Doctors get to dispense with plebeian things like grammar, punctuation, and capitalization?

                  • Chris King August 16th, 2015 at 18:33

                    ignored

                    • bpollen August 16th, 2015 at 18:38

                      You are funny as HELL! Stamping your foot and screaming about how you ignore me! Repeatedly!

                      You know, Doctor Doctor, when you tell me 8 or 10 times (Edit: I counted – make that 14 times) that you are ignoring me, you are really failing at ignoring me… and failing BADLY!

                • bpollen August 16th, 2015 at 18:30

                  I think your “ignore” button is stuck. And your shift key appears to be broken too. Or do Doctor Doctors get to dispense with plebeian things like grammar, punctuation, and capitalization?

      • blockpasser August 17th, 2015 at 13:13

        Research on human tissue is regulated, the sale of fetal tissue is regulated. The concern here is planned parenthood’s senior employees discussing the trade of dismembered baby parts in the context of how many they’d need to kill to buy a Lamborghini.

        • jasperjava August 17th, 2015 at 15:17

          You folks are so desperate that you almost seem to believe your own lies. Either that or you are so disconnected with reality that you can no longer function in the real world.

          Keep spewing insanity. Luckily your side will never regain the White House until you can demonstrate a basic level of mental health.

    • William August 16th, 2015 at 16:49

      (pointless to discuss morality with a libbie)
      Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha.
      http://gratewire.com/topic/republican-sex-offenders-and-conservative-babylon

  19. billr August 15th, 2015 at 18:32

    You hit the truth. He’s nothing but a two bit Republican troll.

  20. William August 17th, 2015 at 13:31

    Do you always get this defensive when you’re caught in a lie?

    • Chris King August 17th, 2015 at 13:37

      you have never done a pub med search before.
      you can see if I am lying if you only knew the very first basic thing about research… the FIRST thing.
      how to search ovid/pubmed.
      you are a failure in life, a joke. you insult the human race.

      • William August 17th, 2015 at 14:29

        I’ll take that as a yes

        • Chris King August 17th, 2015 at 15:16

          you can’t even perform a basic online search for scientific literature.
          you are ignorant leftard trash

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