Texas AG Says ‘It’s Wrong To Subject People Of Faith To Abuse From Same-Sex Marriage’
No sooner had the Supreme Court’s ruling on same-sex marriage been handed down yesterday than Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton began looking for a camera and microphone so he could blather on about his feelings on the matter. Here’s part of what this incredibly ignorant jackass had to say:
Today’s ruling by five Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court marks a radical departure from countless generations of societal law and tradition. The impact of this opinion on our society and the familial fabric of our nation will be profound. Far from a victory for anyone, this is instead a dilution of marriage as a societal institution.
How exactly does the fact that people who love one another will now be allowed to marry affect Mr. Paxton in the first place? It does nothing to his own marriage. Nor does it in any way, shape, or form have an impact on the office of Texas AG.
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Warman1138 June 27th, 2015 at 14:07
When it rains it pours.
whatthe46 June 27th, 2015 at 14:11
tears for them that is. like my grandmother said, “the more you cry the less you pee.” let ’em cry.
mea_mark June 27th, 2015 at 14:09
If Ken Paxton doesn’t want to honor the constitution and obey the law, then he should be arrested and fired.
NW10 June 27th, 2015 at 14:16
I wonder what the Texas AG would have to say regarding allowing young boys to diddle their little sisters, ala Josh Duggar, THAT kind of abuse.
tracey marie June 27th, 2015 at 15:30
god forgives sexual assault and pedophilia but hates when GLBT get married./s
Larry Schmitt June 27th, 2015 at 20:40
Let’s kick that guy god out of the Justice League.
tracey marie June 27th, 2015 at 21:16
lets!
whatthe46 June 27th, 2015 at 21:24
hey sister girl.
tracey marie June 27th, 2015 at 21:37
Hi sweetie, how are you
whatthe46 June 27th, 2015 at 21:47
good. and you. i’m off and on. catching up on some much needed sleep after my son left to go back to dallas. everything with that kid had to happen after 11pm. i’m exhausted. lol
tracey marie June 27th, 2015 at 21:54
You are young, remember that. I made hot sauce and BBQ sauce today, mango/ habenero base with all kind of goodies.
whatthe46 June 27th, 2015 at 22:02
ok. my mouth is on fire just for reading that. lol
tracey marie June 27th, 2015 at 22:05
It is so delicious, not extremely hot but a back burn. Ginger, onion, garlic cilantro and other things just make it great. The bbq sauce has heirloom tomatoes.
whatthe46 June 27th, 2015 at 22:13
awesome tracey. and by the way, he was wanting to do these activities during the weekday and i had to get up for work. staying up late and having to get up early is one thing, but it was the activities. lol.
tracey marie June 27th, 2015 at 22:24
That is hard, since when I work i work from home makes me forget how much harder it is for others.
whatthe46 June 27th, 2015 at 22:31
working from home? i’m jealous.
tracey marie June 27th, 2015 at 22:36
I am lucky, I do visit my clients and sometimes drive hours away to san antonio, texas and corpus.
whatthe46 June 27th, 2015 at 22:40
wow! that’s a lot of driving. one day tracey. one day, we will get to have lunch.
tracey marie June 27th, 2015 at 23:08
Yopu can bet on it!
tracey marie June 27th, 2015 at 23:09
You can come here and have a raucus wkend and be spoiled
whatthe46 June 27th, 2015 at 23:10
where is HERE? i’m in san an.
tracey marie June 27th, 2015 at 23:12
I am about 2.5 hours from you just north of houston.
whatthe46 June 27th, 2015 at 23:49
easy peasy sister girl. one day.
burqa June 27th, 2015 at 22:18
I sure do like hot sauce.
tracey marie June 27th, 2015 at 22:23
i make the best. My hot sauce is wanted by all my friends and i ablige them. I made several gallons today and will bottle and jat it tomorrow. My BBQ sauce is outstanding, I made it for people who want to cut down on salt and fat, the mango and sweet onions make it carmelize beautifully when smoked or grilled.
burqa June 27th, 2015 at 23:57
Ooooh, baby. I may need a cold shower.
Recently I made a deal with a former girlfriend to send me one of my favorite hot sauces from France. Harissa. I loves me some harissa. It’s from Tunisia and is very hot so you gotta use just a little bit.
Yours sounds superb and I’d sure like a chance to try some. Maybe we could work out a trade of some sort.
For barbecue sauce I likes me a Memphis-style. My favorite place to go in Memphis is Jim Neely’s Interstate Barbecue. Cool thing is they’ve got a store in the airport. It’s too long to tell properly here, but I have written a story about it and the time I used it as a weapon against a smart-alecky snot-nosed teenager who was sassing his mother.
I don’t care for cilantro, but am always looking to try new things.
tracey marie June 28th, 2015 at 18:07
I buy that here in Texas.
burqa July 1st, 2015 at 20:13
Harissa?
Here I’ve only seen it in cans. I use so little I need the tubes.
I like to give a good squirt in a big pot of spaghetti sauce when I make it.
In Paris, it’s what they put on gyros.
I didn’t know you were in Texas. If you like chocolate, there’s a really cool little company there, I want to say in Austin, but am not sure, that makes a superb confection.
They take roasted cocoa beans and dip them over and over again in high-quality chocolate.
http://www.cocoapuro.com/
tracey marie July 1st, 2015 at 20:29
I do not like chocolate. I buy harrissa for my husband in Houston.
burqa July 1st, 2015 at 21:22
Don’t like chocolate?
Wow, well, different strokes for different strokes.
First time I had harissa was my first trip to Paris. I was staying with a woman there and often we would invite people we met during the day to come by that night and to bring something. The result was a feast, people would bring all kinds of stuff.
One night I was hanging out with a guy I met there, doing some shopping, when he bought some and asked me if I liked hot food.
That night we were doing a stir-fry and couscous and I had gotten me a plate of food when my new friend asked me again about hot, spicy food and brought out this tube of harissa.
I took that rascal and squirted a ring over my food, about as big in diameter as a saucer and began to chow down.
The flavor was great but, whoa Nelly, when the heat hit I was turning green and pink and back to green with sweat popping out on my forehead while I tried to keep my cool and suddenly needed a LOT of bread….,
tracey marie July 1st, 2015 at 21:38
I can’t believe you were not warned! I will use harrissa spareingly. I grow habenaro, scotch bonnet, jamaican hot peppers, serrano, jalapeno, tabasco,finger and a few sweet peppers.
anothertoothpick June 27th, 2015 at 14:23
Religious persecution shall not be tolerated.
Jack E Raynbeau June 27th, 2015 at 17:16
We Trib-Libs love our Bagley. Here’s today’s installment.
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Jack E Raynbeau June 27th, 2015 at 17:19
Another try
Larry Schmitt June 27th, 2015 at 19:54
It’s accepted for children to act childish. It’s not when adults do it.
Jack E Raynbeau June 27th, 2015 at 20:11
I think they’re both children in this case.
William June 27th, 2015 at 14:39
It’s all so simple
Larry Schmitt June 27th, 2015 at 19:54
Wow, that was easy.
rhzszm June 29th, 2015 at 12:14
Hey, that’s exactly what these workers are doing. Refusing to marry a gay person.
William June 29th, 2015 at 12:56
Well then….
Your move.
rhzszm June 29th, 2015 at 13:11
How you ever been to a real wedding?
“If anybody has any objection to this wedding, speak now…”
“Therefore if any man can shew any just cause, why they may not lawfully be joined together, let him now speak or else hereafter for ever hold his peace.”
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We’re talking about *marriage* here, not a weekend flight to Vegas.
William June 29th, 2015 at 15:55
“Therefore if any man can shew any just cause, why they may not lawfully be joined together, let him now speak or else hereafter for ever hold his peace.”
You do realize that a civil marriage ceremony is NOT a court proceeding and the objection would carry no legal weight whatsoever ….right?
Your butthurt is however, noted appreciated and savored like a good glass of merlot.
tracey marie June 27th, 2015 at 15:29
Same ignorant rhetoric when mixed race couples were allowed to marry.
Anomaly 100 June 27th, 2015 at 15:41
Lol.
Um Cara June 27th, 2015 at 16:00
The vast majority of Texan same-sex couples I know ARE “people of faith”. What is this ridiculous fool even talking about?
burqa June 27th, 2015 at 16:55
I agree with your first point.
On the second, it would be my guess that he’s imagining practical jokers targeting devout conservatives, trying to force them to, for example, cater to a gay wedding reception or be hired as a photographer.
The reverse could happen – a bunch of white supremacists forcing a black catering outfit to serve a party or for a Jewish bakery to be compelled to bake a ‘happy birthday Hitler’ cake.
There are a few such jerks out there.
The business owners just going to have to learn their customers and be ready to lie if someone tries to play such a prank. Instead of saying they are declining their business because of religious reasons they should just lie and say they are booked up or are going on vacation or are doing inventory that week or something else.
I’m saying that about businesses where there are plenty of alternatives. But if, say, way out in the country there is only one business such as theirs, they should not be able to get away with lying to avoid doing business with a group they don’t like.
Roctuna June 27th, 2015 at 18:24
Those two “reverse” examples could have happened at any time and I’ve not heard of any such jerks, have you? I just don’t think pranks would be an issue. Gays don’t want their weddings to be farcical political statments any more than straights do they?
I know this is too analytical but it seems to me all these socalled christians are confusing a marriage and a wedding. I got married. It was in a courthouse. No clergy involved but there were civil forms to fill out. If a priest/minister/rabbi performs a religious wedding, there’s still civil paperwork to fill out to document the marriage. Gays can now enjoy full rights to civil marriages and if they find the right person and church they can enjoy a religious wedding ceremony. I just don’t see how this will cause the downfall of society or end straight marriage for that matter.
As for the clerks in places like Texas and elsewhere. How does filling out the civil paperwork mean they condone or support a gay wedding or violate their beliefs? No one is asking them to attend or be involved, just do their job and be a professional. They’re already issuing all sorts of permits to adulterers, spouse-beaters, stalkers, and other truly unsavory characters, they just don’t know it.
These fundie talibaggers just drive me nuts with their moralizing.
burqa June 27th, 2015 at 19:45
I agree with you such examples “could” happen, but I have no specific examples to point to. I do know human nature well enough to believe it is likely such a thing has happened or will.
On this issue, it comes down to the interpretation of the law that holds that businesses operating in public have to serve the public without bias.
That said, I’ll go on and be hypocritical by saying that when I was operating my own little construction company there were people I just wasn’t going to work for, period. I didn’t like them and decided there was no way they were going to get my work, and they didn’t.
Nowadays I just work for myself and hire out to a few contractors and homeowners who I like to work for. There’s a guy in town who has an antebellum home and has let me know a few times he wanted me to work on it but no way. I don’t like the guy.
On the confusion of marriage and weddings, I think you make a good point. Back when I got married it was ridiculously simple. We had to get blood tests and a license and then get someone to marry us.
I think you’d agree with me that a lot of these people have been whipped into such a frenzy as to think if they had gays living on the same city block they’ll somehow get cancer or something. For some, I think they are just having trouble adjusting to something new and radical to them and they have gotten to the place in life where they’d just like things to stay the same.
Then along comes this new thing and they have no choice about it and their unease with the unfamiliar has been capitalized on.
I think further magnifying things is being unable to stop this train from coming down the tracks has caused them to intensify their opposition and to justify that they tend to grasp at straws and become ridiculously thin-skinned.
One last factor that has made this a bigger problem that it should be are the emotional appeals to fear and the way the extremists on both sides have whipped up anger through name-calling, bigotry and general nastiness.
This is not the way to persuade people. This is how you make them dig in their heels and be less amenable to change. So the finger-pointing only serves to strengthen the other side.
Roctuna June 27th, 2015 at 20:42
I think the reasonable behavior, just as you describe you’ve done, is why this is a non-issue in the real world. You’re right about the frenzied emotional appeals.
burqa June 27th, 2015 at 20:58
It really is bizarre the way people gt in a frenzy these days, y’know?
It’s as if there is now a societal expectation that we go from being outraged about one thing to another. Good grief, if people would just turn off the TV, sit back and relax, things would be a lot better and we’d be in a better frame of mind to deal with various issues.
Sometimes in the evening when I’m out in the country, sitting in the grass watching the sun set, having me a beer, I wish everyone could be there experiencing it. The only sounds are the birds and crickets and then the fireflies come out and my only problem is trying to figure out how to mix a particular color I see in the clouds just before the sun finally drops below the horizon.
Roctuna June 28th, 2015 at 08:42
Ahh, so burqa’s an artist/painter too? I’m jealous of your fireflies.
burqa June 28th, 2015 at 14:18
Yes, and I am going to fine art full time now and will be doing less carpentry.
I also write short stories that people like. When I have the time I’m going to see about getting them published.
The scene I described – I call it “luxury living.” I’ll be kicked back with a friend and say, “This is luxury living.” I have a theory, unsupported by a single fact or anything resembling a fact that humans are designed to be in a green environment, as if there is something healthful about the color. I’m currently working on an old farm house way out in the country and at the end of each day the lady of the house comes home about the time I’m wrapping things up. She has a very stressful job and the drive to and from her job is no picnic, with people who can’t drive right pouring in and out of subdivisions that have sprouted up.
But then she arrives and is no longer surrounded by concrete, steel and glass, but the bucolic splendor of a nicely shaded back yard where we’ll kick back, have a beer and catch a buzz. I can visibly see the tension falling from her as we swap stories and enjoy being in nature.
Under such circumstances, it is much easier to resolve differences or misunderstandings.
Everything stays in a pleasant balance and life suddenly becomes so easy….
Dwendt44 June 27th, 2015 at 20:00
Clerks and other government employees are supposed to do their jobs regardless of their religious beliefs. If they don’t like it, resign.
If a baker is open to the public, they shouldn’t discriminate period.
The ‘against my religion’ is B.S. Few of them refuse to east shrimp or crawdads, wear jewelry, or have bacon for breakfast. Either you obey the biblical laws or you don’t; pick and chose is nothing more than a dodge.
The Original Just Me June 27th, 2015 at 16:17
I wonder if this Texan (?) knows that it is also wrong to tell people that the Christian religion OWNS the U.S. Government.
bpollen June 27th, 2015 at 17:18
Offending the Jesus Junkies is not abuse, nor has any current or future marriage been harmed. Or diluted. Texas – where stupid is required for higher office.
Dwendt44 June 27th, 2015 at 19:53
The marriages that are damaged were damaged by those inside it, not the two guys down the street.
bpollen June 27th, 2015 at 20:22
Yeah, if gay marriage threatens your marriage, you were just LOOKING for something to blame your failing marriage on.
Larry Schmitt June 27th, 2015 at 20:37
They have no mirrors in their house.
fredoandme June 27th, 2015 at 18:13
oh, yeah? it’s also wrong to subject people of no faith to forced religiosity.
Larry Schmitt June 27th, 2015 at 19:57
The only lives being ruined when gays marry each other are those of the ones getting married. (that was a joke.) Seriously, what abuse are “people of faith” being subjected to? None of these whiners ever come up with any specifics on how they are being hurt by same sex marriage. Never have, never will. For a law enforcement officer, he talks pretty stupid.
anothertoothpick June 27th, 2015 at 20:40
If the repubs really want to punish people, they should go for banning divorce.
whatthe46 June 27th, 2015 at 20:50
that one got a loud laugh outta me. loved it.
allison1050 June 27th, 2015 at 20:52
And the divorce rate is what in the US? Familial fabric my azz.
craig7120 June 27th, 2015 at 21:07
When the views and opinions from the gop are the same as they would be inside a theocracy you gotta wonder how can people vote that in office?
Remember folks, it wasn’t long ago right wing pastors were calling for gay people to be killed and laws were being written by gop legislators to restrict rights from people because of their sexual preference.
Damn shame the gop has become a cartoon, a punchline, only you can’t laugh, the xtian wh(r)ite are deadly serious. One of their minions murdered 9 black Americans inside a house of worship, while the republican entertainment channel, Fox News claims the attacker had a different motive.
It’s so important to vote Dem in ’16, squash the cancer that is the modern gop.
whatthe46 June 27th, 2015 at 21:29
nicely put.
amersham46 June 27th, 2015 at 21:33
‘It’s wrong to subject the LGBT community to take abuse from ‘People Of Faith’
fahvel June 28th, 2015 at 02:03
people of faith are clinging to a hot air balloon without and flame – just a bag of nothing.
wpadon June 27th, 2015 at 21:34
Perhaps I missed this point, where in the ruling required churches to perform weddings for gay couples.
tracey marie June 27th, 2015 at 21:46
brietbart says after churchs are sued out of existance and priests send to jail Obama will open fema camps to kill the christians…I am not kidding
burqa June 27th, 2015 at 22:14
Yes, and that’s where they would be using those 30,000 guillotines that Alex Jones said we were importing a few years ago….
tracey marie June 27th, 2015 at 22:24
I just have to laugh at their fear. They are so afraid that GLBT people are going to do to them what they did to GLBT they are soiling themselves.
burqa June 27th, 2015 at 23:17
That is the best point I’ve read on this in a long time.
Very insightful.
This might be a good time to buy some Fruit-of-the-Loom stock, because there ain’t no way they’re going to be able to wash all those undies and will figure the thing to do is keep throwing them away and buying new ones in those bigass 144-packs….
tracey marie June 27th, 2015 at 23:21
:)
Gordon LP June 28th, 2015 at 00:27
That is after the Coup d’etat and all Brieitbart supporters are holed up with in their hideouts watching post-apocalyptic TV series.
mach June 29th, 2015 at 00:19
That’s where they spend most of their time already. :)
TKList June 27th, 2015 at 22:50
Marriage is a contract. Government should not be discriminating about who can enter into contracts.
As far as government is concerned all marriage should be considered civil contracts, leave marriage to the private sector.
burqa June 27th, 2015 at 23:11
They can’t leave it entirely to the private sector because the government has to determine which contracts are valid and which are not. Plus, it’s a way for the government to collect money they’d have to get from somewhere else.
But of course you are right that marriage is a contract – that’s why it is called a “marriage contract” and there should not be discrimination against consenting adults who want such a contract.
Bunya June 27th, 2015 at 22:57
I’m wondering what kind of abuse he’s talking about. Will his taxes increase to support all the children same-sex marriages will produce? Will gay couples be peeking into his bedroom instead of the other way around?
Snow Cipher June 28th, 2015 at 00:32
The social conservatives are still trying to turn sour grapes into whine and call it a miracle.
fahvel June 28th, 2015 at 02:01
the old old Italians took the nut cases of faith and used them for cat food, really big cats too. A big cat today would puke it up – rotten is rotten regardless of faith.