Jihadist Tweets Pam Geller’s Home Address And ‘#GoForth’
Click here for reuse options!The tweet about Pamela Geller, who heads a group called the American Freedom Defense Initiative, came just hours after a third man connected to a plot to kill her and murder Boston police was arrested.
“#GoForth,” the Tweet urged via a hashtag after revealing Geller’s New York City address, apartment number and all. The Twitter account that sent out the address has since been suspended.
…, a man in New Hampshire was planning another “draw Muhammad” event, according to Seacoast Online. Jerry DeLemus, a resident of Rochester, New Hampshire, plans to hold the contest in spite of the shooting. The event is expected to take place later this year. “I’m not worried about taking a risk,” DeLemus said Thursday. “It’s more important to defend our way of life in this country, our constitutional rights, for everybody,” he said.
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StoneyCurtisll June 14th, 2015 at 10:04
Pam Gellers American Freedom Defense Initiative…
Other defenders of “free speech”..
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRqdecuTDcs73r7RFgNWu5xlPe1Wbr4PjUrnfC87bSW8EtPzvud
http://www.ultimahora.hn/sites/default/files/imagecache/adentro/nazis.jpg
All of them disgusting
Mainah June 14th, 2015 at 10:36
Nothing I can say would top that. Boom. There it is.
mea_mark June 14th, 2015 at 10:51
Pam Geller — Look at me, look at me, oops, they’re looking at me and they found me. Sometimes the stupid is just so …
tracey marie June 14th, 2015 at 16:01
Exactlly, she deserves whatever happens to her. She is trying to be offensive and pick a fight for no other reason then she can.
NW10 June 14th, 2015 at 11:00
ISIL also tweeted a picture of the President being beheaded, which Anomaly did an article on a few weeks back…
Suzanne McFly June 14th, 2015 at 11:26
“It’s more important to defend our way of life in this country”
This genius obviously speaks for himself, I have not met one artist who creates art that is hateful depictions of another’s religious leaders.
Red Mann June 14th, 2015 at 12:45
Suzanne, it is not about hateful depictions, it’s about any depictions at all. Many Muslims consider any representations of Mohammad offensive and insulting. Remember when they wanted to jail a teacher for allowing her students naming a teddy bear “Mohammad”? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_teddy_bear_blasphemy_case
The other point is, why should we allow anyone’s religious beliefs to dictate our freedom of expression? No one’s religious beliefs should have any expectations of being free from ridicule and criticism.
tracey marie June 14th, 2015 at 16:00
why should we intentionally go out of our way to be disrespectful and look for trouble from the fringe element, it is wrong to start and ske for trouble then whine when it comes. This is about making intelligent decisions and behaving as an intelligent and civilised person, geller is the opposite, a hate filled person looking for a fight, she will not win.
Suzanne McFly June 14th, 2015 at 18:55
Good post, key word is civilized. People who are civil do not go around provoking other segments of the population and be shocked when they smack back.
robert June 14th, 2015 at 17:34
if its hateful drawings your not an artist and you barely qualify as a cartoonist. Even the popeye cartoonist got the drift early in his career about this crap. others obviously need more time
fahvel June 14th, 2015 at 11:51
something about sowing and reaping comes to mind.
Um Cara June 14th, 2015 at 12:01
Her neighbors must be thrilled.
rg9rts June 14th, 2015 at 14:58
Karma
liberalMD June 14th, 2015 at 17:38
I can’t understand why Pamela is upset. These people are just exercising their right to free speech, a freedom which is guaranteed every American by the Bill of Rights!
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, and Pamela, you now appear to be a gander!
greenfloyd June 14th, 2015 at 19:55
It appears most of you are cheering for the terrorists!?
Geller 3, Terrorists 0!
jasperjava June 15th, 2015 at 01:20
Geller is no better than the terrorists. Another hateful bigot who wants to destroy anybody who doesn’t believe what she does.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 02:44
As far as I know Geller has not killed anyone.
jasperjava June 15th, 2015 at 02:49
She’s like those radical Imams, then, who encourage terrorists. They haven’t killed anyone either. But they enable terrorism, and this is what Geller does every day.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 02:59
You’re not paying attention. Several of those so-called imams are in federal prison for providing material support. Tonight 60 Minutes rebroadcast the story about what they (radicals) are doing in London with patrols going out terrorizing anyone they don’t like, especially gay people. They routinuely hold rallys to denounce democracy and free speech. No, Geller, doesn’t hold a candle to these whacked-out fanatics.
bpollen June 15th, 2015 at 04:12
Are you really the big cheese at the Pam Geller Fanboy Club?
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 04:22
Yeah! That’s me, the “big cheese.” Seriously, is that all you got?
bpollen June 15th, 2015 at 04:57
I wasn’t attacking you… I just couldn’t believe the slavish devotion to supporting hate-mongering you have put on display. I find it appalling, but all hateful ideologies have their “fellow travelers.” The Klan was big about 100 years ago. But the hate’s still the same.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 05:15
I know your not attacking me, because I’m just playing with you! It’s so easy. But seriously back-up you “hate-mongering” allegations. You can’t! I don’t hate anyone, except the terrorist! I can’t believe I’m in the minority on this?
bpollen June 15th, 2015 at 16:26
Geller is a hate-mongering harpy and you are operating as her apologist. Consider it backed-up.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 23:16
No! You are wrong about me. I do admit she does fascinate me as a media character. Of course she’s a bigot, hateful and most certainly wrong to characterize “all Muslims are terrorists.” I can read also and I’m not in agreement with her.
To me though Geller is just part of the picture and drama of living in America 2015.
bpollen June 16th, 2015 at 05:04
Sounds to me like you are just trying to rationalize away your infatuation with this rancid hate-monger.
You know, all things considered, I think I would rather be neighbors with So-Creepy-Nobody-Would-Leave-Him-Alone-With-Opie-Floyd.
greenfloyd June 16th, 2015 at 05:42
Infatuation dissipated after the first few words from her luscious lips. Although I think she is an interesting person. I could never love that! Besides, after 40 years I’m still madly in love with my high-school sweetheart. :) “I’m sorry, Pam,” I’d tell her, “but you’ll have get along without me.” I know that will break her heart. Oh but wait! That’s not a problem, because she obviously has none.
As for your rather clumsy attempt at a put-down… fail!
bpollen June 16th, 2015 at 05:49
Oh, yeah, of course… You are a loving monogamous male who admits infatuation while conflating it with love and then absolving yourself because you don’t luuuuuv her.
And I was stating a preference – Andy Griffith’s Floyd comes off much less creepy.
greenfloyd June 16th, 2015 at 06:14
Who said anything about “monogamous?” Poor Pam. Maybe I could have been the one to help her out of the darkness, but alas it was not meant to be. As I recall that “Floyd” was Mayberry’s town barber, somewhat excitable, yet certainly law abiding and a wealth of information that sometimes lead Andy and Barney to the capture of chicken thieves and even moonshiners… it was a long time ago and not very funny then, and you ain’t helping none now!
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 06:27
Sounds to me like you’ve got a slavish infatuation with terrorists and support the ones trying to murder Americans.
See how that works?
Lighten up. Greenfloyd is a good guy and trying to make up these cartoonish characters is so ridiculous as to seem trollish and not something from a rational, thinking adult.
greenfloyd June 16th, 2015 at 06:32
You are right. I am a “good guy.”
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 05:14
Am I detecting a slavish devotion to the jiadists who tried to murder Geller?
Why yes, I am, if I employ your logic.
Murder is murder, even if the victim is a bigoted jerk.
Even people like Geller have the right to free speech and protection of the law.
If we only support the speech we agree with and allow those we disagree with to be murdered or intimidated into silence we won’t have any free speech for anyone.
tracey marie June 15th, 2015 at 23:51
This is not london, stick to the facts about our country.
greenfloyd June 16th, 2015 at 00:05
Noted and maybe you should remind 60 Minutes… :)
Geller was compared to being like “radical imams,” While she may be as hateful, as far as I know she has not provided any material support for specific acts of murder and mayhem. If she did she’d be in the jail with some of those “radical imams” who have real blood on their hands.
jasperjava June 15th, 2015 at 02:59
I remember her from the mid-2000’s, cheerleading for the Iraq War and expressing joy when innocent Muslims were needlessly killed.
As far as she’s concerned, there are no innocent Muslims. There are no peaceful Muslims. She wants them all to die.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 03:03
Or it’s all a big act and she’s laughing all the way to the bank… at any rate what are you recommending?
jasperjava June 15th, 2015 at 03:12
As i said before, mutual respect is the key. We need to build bridges, not create deliberate provocations. There’s no need to insult Muslims by drawing the prophet Muhammad.
There are plenty of peaceful, law-abiding, tolerant, friendly Muslims out there. Instead of provoking the radical few to action, why not seek out members of the community and create opportunities for dialogue? Why not isolate the radical freaks by building links between Muslims and the majority? Hate only begets hate.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 03:39
You should know by now you are not going to get “mutual respect” out of Geller, or these already radicalized terrorists.
On the other hand,
There’s no need to insult Americans who will draw whatever the hell they want!
I have no problem with peaceful people of any faith, or no faith; they are not the problem and neither is Geller. If you can’t see that, I think you are seriously mistaken.
TKList June 15th, 2015 at 03:41
No amount of disrespect validates threatening and killing.
Ormond Otvos June 15th, 2015 at 16:31
Muslim is a choice. Unless you grow up being taught apostasy is eligible for death. Christians did this years ago. Jews have a bible full of death for those who didn’t follow Yahweh. Hindus burn Muslims on trains. Buddhists cooperated with Japanese death squads. A serious splinter of Mormons enslave their women. On and On.
TKList June 15th, 2015 at 03:39
Correction:
Geller 5
Terrorists 0
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 03:43
I guess I missed the last two… were they kills or just arrests?
TKList June 15th, 2015 at 03:44
Arrests.
tracey marie June 15th, 2015 at 23:51
why are you protecting and cheering asshole bigots. Geller has 3, 3 chins and 3 rolls on her mid section and a three alarm fire big bigoted mouth.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 23:56
You are incorrect. I am not “cheering” her, just trying to be an objective witness to her antics. And glad her harebrained and offensive scheme resulted in the elimination of 3 very dangerous home-grown jihadi. You repeat the obvious. And you along with most people here, seem oblivious to the real enemy.
tracey marie June 16th, 2015 at 00:06
The real enemies are those that foment hate and violence, that is what geller does.
greenfloyd June 16th, 2015 at 00:13
You can ignore Geller. You can’t ignore a bomb!
majii June 14th, 2015 at 19:56
If a dog has rabies, and you decided you’re going to put your hand in his mouth, you deserve what you get—rabies. When Geller held her “Draw Muhammad” contest in TX, she had no idea that it would backfire on her. She’s been whining since then. I’d like to see her host another “DM” contest to prove how really dedicated she is to being able to exercise her 1st Amendment right to declare that all Muslims are terrorists.
greenfloyd June 14th, 2015 at 21:26
If there’s a rabid dog running around the neighborhood it will not go unnoticed and of course needs to be put-down!
These treasonous jihadi among us, “lone wolfs,” or small cells taking orders from foreign operators who are eager to enable “Death to America!” … it’s necessary to flush them out, entice them, entrap them and kill them if necessary. The FBI does it. To mixed reviews and results. Geller has simply come up with a different, albeit unofficial way to bait the hook with her own hate. At least she’s honest about it.
Geller isn’t getting what she deserves, although she is getting exactly what she wants! Attention. I just hope it won’t be the death of her.
whatthe46 June 14th, 2015 at 21:49
she’s putting others at risk because of her ignorance and i’m not speaking of the ones that participate, i’m speaking of the ones that are innocent bystanders and don’t share in her nasty ways.
greenfloyd June 14th, 2015 at 22:15
In Garland, TX that was true. Why don’t you include the participants? Do you actually believe like the terrorists, Geller and the others deserve to die?
whatthe46 June 14th, 2015 at 22:20
i don’t think they deserve to die, but i’m not gonna cry about it should it happen.
greenfloyd June 14th, 2015 at 23:26
Aside from the jihadi in North America, who wants to kill Geller? (I mean literally, not figuratively). She claims to have armed security, although it’s never been made clear if it’s private or govt provided. I would not be surprised if the FBI is keeping a close watch on her. Even though she’s an obvious bigot, she is also an American citizen who has been publicly targeted for execution by a domestic jihadi terrorist network.
whatthe46 June 14th, 2015 at 23:28
some crazy as white guy. they are out there.
greenfloyd June 14th, 2015 at 23:43
Well, there is that. Although “crazy” comes in all colors. You seem to ignore the fact, wittingly or not, her actions in Garland resulted in the elimination of two very dangerous terrorists.
whatthe46 June 14th, 2015 at 23:53
yeah, but how many black or brown or anyone with a “muslim” sounding name will be able to purchase what the nut in dallas was able to w/o red flags? and there are those who are white, not many, but there are some, who sympathizes with them. just sayin. and you can best believe if the script were to be flipped and some muslims were to play that same game, you would have to be concerned with more than a couple of white terrorists. and quite frankly, some don’t even need a reason to terrorize, just be a little ticked over nothing, to blow up buildings, to shoot up schools, to buy an armored tank, etc., etc.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 00:17
I would like to see an American-Muslim organized “Draw Mohammad” contest. It might help eliminate this stupid myth that it’s automatic blasphemy worthy of death.
whatthe46 June 15th, 2015 at 00:24
i would like to see people chill the hell out. what’s the point? to see who can best antagonize?
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 00:44
I think you should direct that, first and foremost, to the terrorists!
whatthe46 June 15th, 2015 at 00:54
which terrorists! when the muslims were holding their peace and love prayer, who was terrorizing who?
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 02:32
You must mean that so-called “free speech” rally organized by Jon Ritzheimer in Phoenix a couple weeks ago. Even as ugly as that whole thing was, no one was hurt and the heavy police presents prevented any laws from being broken. It seemed to me a very different dynamic there as opposed to what happened in Garland.
whatthe46 June 15th, 2015 at 09:33
they were itching for a fire fight. as if free speech can’t be done by terrorist.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 23:05
I thought we were discussing Geller, please stay on topic.
whatthe46 June 15th, 2015 at 23:08
ahhhhh
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 00:44
I think you should direct that, first and foremost, to the terrorists!
jasperjava June 15th, 2015 at 01:44
Why should people act against the precepts of their religion just to please you? You enjoy ham and bacon, so you want to force observant Jews to eat pork?
Expecting people to believe and behave the way YOU want them to believe and behave is the purest form of bigotry.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 02:24
I don’t care what people believe. I do care about stopping terrorists intent on killing over a stupid drawing.
jasperjava June 15th, 2015 at 02:30
The way you do that is by fostering respect between people of different races, ethnicities, or beliefs. Deliberately stoking hatred is not the way you stop terrorists.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 02:43
“Fostering respect” works on normal people… but these jihadi terrorists now operating in America are not normal! They are violent psychopaths. And thanks to Geller there are now fewer of them to worry about.
jasperjava June 15th, 2015 at 02:47
With her bigoted attitude she CREATES more jihadists than there were before. When young Muslims see their religion under attack, it’s no wonder that some of them will be radicalized.
Geller is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 23:49
I have yet to hear of any young Muslims being radicalized by Geller. What I have read is that there is a jihadi network in America that targets young people in their communities and houses of worship.
tracey marie June 15th, 2015 at 23:57
“you heard” lol, that’s rich.
greenfloyd June 16th, 2015 at 00:12
Your post makes no sense. Do you have some evidence that Geller has radicalized anyone who was not already bat-shi* crazy to kill Americans, and Geller in particular?
whatthe46 June 15th, 2015 at 22:58
and before 911, we had our own home grown terrorists and since 911 we have had them, and they were not over any stupid drawings.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 23:27
I think the 2 guys who attacked Geller in Garland were also “home grown” terrorists, as was that dude in Boston who changed his mind about going after Geller and instead opted to commit “suicide by cop!” They were all Americans, until they decided to go over to the dark side. Also, don’t forget the first World Trade Center bombing in the early 1990s.
Ormond Otvos June 15th, 2015 at 16:27
I’m waiting for a similar group of Muslims to show some respect for the SECULAR nation they live in, but of course when your main slogan is “allahu akbar” that’s hard to do.
All we can do is hope that more and more youth just drop religion and follow moral teachings from Darwin.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 23:03
I think the common interpretation of “allahu akbar” in English is “god is great.” I don’t think that automatically implies disrespect for secular government. Most religions praise god.
I doubt Darwin would appreciate your characterization of his groundbreaking scientific research as “moral teachings.” In fact, too many people still believe his work was the exact opposite of what you suggest.
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 04:40
The government is secular, but the makeup of the population is overwhelmingly people of many different faiths. In America, Muslims have the freedom to practice their religion as do Jews, Baha’i’s, Shintoists, Christians, Buddhists and many others.
Where I live, it is a good thing we have people of faith. Last winter was a particularly bad one that was harder than usual on the homeless. Fortunately, faith-based organizations that operate the Thurman Brisben* homeless shelter and the cold-weather shelter. St. Georges Episcopal and a few others took people in when it got really bad and the 2 shelters were overflowing.
The youth who were among the volunteers got a great lesson in loving others and giving to those in need as our Christian faith encourages us to do.
Sorry you’d do away with such things. If you were here I think your opinion would change.
* Thurman Brisben – He was a homeless man who died, alone, of exposure during another bad winter circa 1980 along the Rappahannock River in town. That was before we had a homeless shelter. I’m not sure, but I think he died while our secular government was dragging its heels and resisting the efforts of people of faith clamoring to establish a shelter.
whatthe46 June 14th, 2015 at 23:29
and the govt. shouldn’t be paying for any protection. let her and her cronies use their own damn dime. her mess, let her pay for the clean up.
whatthe46 June 14th, 2015 at 22:22
and i won’t be surprised it will be someone other than a muslim.
jasperjava June 15th, 2015 at 01:40
“I just hope it won’t be the death of her.”
Why do you hope that? It would be poetic justice.
I don’t think anybody ought to die because of their beliefs, no matter how reprehensible. But if you play with fire, you will get burned.
Pam Geller deserves scorn. Her death should not induce pity, but the same kind of disdain that inspires the Darwin Awards.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 02:17
Why do I hope someone will not be beheaded? Do you really have to ask? Scorn her all you like, she has not hurt anyone, except maybe your delicate sensibilities. And oh yeah! Those two dead terrorists in Garland, and another one in Boston.
jasperjava June 15th, 2015 at 02:28
Pam Geller hasn’t hurt anyone? She’s a disgusting bigot. She makes a career out of hurting people.
I guess you would say that David Duke hasn’t hurt anyone?
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 02:47
I am not playing your stupid guessing game.
jasperjava June 15th, 2015 at 02:53
That’s because you’re too cowardly to admit that hate IS a form of harm.
Geller is like the Ku Klux Klan or the Aryan Nations. Even if their individual members haven’t physically hurt anyone, they cause harm to thousands of people nonetheless.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 03:09
You are silly. Geller’s hate is limited to those who want to hear it (or repeat it). What ever “harm” she may have caused pales in comparison to what those jihadi had in mind. You really need perspective.
jasperjava June 15th, 2015 at 03:13
She empowers the jihadis. She feeds their hatred. She stokes the fires of division. She’s one of THEM, just the other side of the same coin.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 03:27
So it seems you agree with the terrorists who want to kill her. It is illegal to provide any material support to terrorist and as far as I know Geller has never been charged with such a crime. It’s not illegal to “hate,” and if “stoking division” were illegal there would not be enough room in our already biggest in the world prison system. Comparing Geller to an active dedicated jihadi is just ridiculous.
jasperjava June 15th, 2015 at 04:12
Geller was one of the people who inspired Anders Breivik to go on his killing spree. She IS a jihadi, only of a different religious persuasion.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 04:28
I never implied she’s a very nice person and I do not agree with her bigotry. Yet unlike you and most people here I am not fixated on it.
jasperjava June 15th, 2015 at 04:38
Worse, you are keeping “score” on the jihadis who were killed or arrested due to her stupid stunts.
When are you anti-Muslim bigots going to realize that the hatred that you celebrate and propagate is just going to blow up in your face?
I work on Interfaith councils in my community. I work at establishing links and promoting mutual understanding. It makes me sick to see so many bigoted bastards trying to undo all the positive work that is being done.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 04:59
I am not trying to undo your “positive work,” keep at it. I also think it’s fine to hold Geller accountable, in an intelligent and peaceful manner of course. At least you acknowledge her actions had desirable outcomes. I am not “anti-Mulsim,” I am anti-terrorists!
Ormond Otvos June 15th, 2015 at 16:16
Interfaith council? How does that work with monotheisms?
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 22:43
I think that’s a good question. I’d also like to know what jasperjava is doing?
Ormond Otvos June 15th, 2015 at 16:15
Yet here you are, commenting.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 22:42
So what? We all are “commenting.” Why don’t you add something to the conversation?
Ormond Otvos June 15th, 2015 at 16:15
Freedom implies prisons for those who lack self-control, and understanding of how society has to work. I’m not surprised we have a large percentage of people in prison. We encourage it with our entitlement of selfishness.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 22:40
I disagree. But I don’t want to go off topic so I’ll leave it at that.
whatthe46 June 15th, 2015 at 22:51
but remember there are far too many in prison that should not be there to begin with. how are innocent people in prison a contribution to those who lack self-control? there are countless of people who should be in prison because they don’t lack self-control and primarily because of privlege. they are much worse than those who are in because of non-violent offenses.
Ormond Otvos June 15th, 2015 at 16:13
Profoundly true. She is mentally unbalanced, and revels in the passion to kill.
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 02:12
Being insulted and exposed to offensive speech is part of the price we pay to have free speech. People use foul language around children and ladies.
Others call nasty names.
Some hold forth bigoted opinions.
Others are just plain stupid.
This is part of the price we pay to have free speech. We have to let the idiots speak and we have to protect their right.
Yes, you are right, hate can indeed be hurtful. Lots of things can be hurtful. Chicks laughing at my teeny weenie is hurtful, but they don’t deserve to have their heads chopped off because of it, nor should they be censored, nor should I be able to sue them for it (fat chance I’d win, once I dropped trou in the courtroom and caused peals of laughter from one and all).
We do have laws in cases where actual harm can be shown, such as libel or slander. In many cases, the standards of the courts are pretty high because to have free speech we have to allow disgusting, insulting speech.
If we try to have a society where no one is offended, we will have a society with no free speech and that would be a dreary place to live.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 02:17
Why do I hope someone will not be beheaded? Do you really have to ask? Scorn her all you like, she has not hurt anyone, except maybe your delicate sensibilities. And oh yeah! Those two dead terrorists in Garland, and another one in Boston.
Will June 15th, 2015 at 08:14
Wow, look at you proliferating fear because the Muslims in the USA will be offended and will try to kill us.
greenfloyd June 16th, 2015 at 00:35
While there is an element of Political Correctness that may delude some people. However, there seems to be a consensus here, including me, who think Geller is a bigot and that most Muslims are certainly not terrorists.
After that it gets interesting… :)
Will June 16th, 2015 at 01:51
So what Muslim sect are you?
Obewon June 16th, 2015 at 02:01
Your xenophobia has run its course here. Buh-bye now.
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 02:14
toodles, Will!
Obewon June 16th, 2015 at 02:17
Funny if that was Ohio’s Daddio / Willy bounced again
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 02:22
BRING BACK JULIO BOTZ!
greenfloyd June 16th, 2015 at 04:29
Not a Muslim.
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 02:01
“Poetic justice?”
Isn’t that the same sort of thinking by those who privately applauded the guy who shot and paralyzed Larry Flynt?
You’re far better than that, jasperjava.
Emotionally, I can see your point and have thought the same thing, but my reason stepped in and said no, having an insulting art show does not merit murder.
Life is more precious than that.
Bunya June 15th, 2015 at 14:17
Gellar is nothing more than an attention-grabbing coward. Notice how she holds these anti-Muslim exhibitions in a predominantly Christian country, surrounded by Christians. If she had any guts, she’d take her little art party to Iran or Saudi Arabia.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 22:31
Your argument doesn’t make much sense… like her or not Pam Geller is an American.
Bunya June 15th, 2015 at 22:56
She’s a cowardly American, spouting her hatred while hiding behind her right to free speech and a whole lotta Christians. If she were serious about promoting her crazy escapades, she’d take her show to Iran, Jordan or any other predominantly Muslim country.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 23:33
So what kind of American are you to suggest a citizen should go abroad to exercise her freedom simply because you don’t agree with her? Deal with it!
Bunya June 16th, 2015 at 01:32
Hey, It makes no difference to me. If she’s intent on stirring up hate, it’s her prerogative. By the same token, if someone wants to shoot her dead, I couldn’t care less. And I’m the kind of American who will challenge a wanna-be badass to prove how tough she is by taking her nastiness to another country where I’m sure they’ll be more than appreciative.
greenfloyd June 16th, 2015 at 04:28
Apparently it made enough of a “difference” to you that you made these replies. And I think that’s great. Geller is a bigot and she deserves to be called on that. Not executed. Your challenge is senseless.
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 04:58
I think you’re on the right track here. It’s a shame that in order to have free speech, we have to defend jerks and bigots, but it has always been thus.
It has also always been the case that there are some among us who don’t get it yet – that to have free speech we have to allow obnoxious, foul and/or insulting speech.
A visit to one of our national cemeteries helps to make the point tangibly as to the cost to date of freedoms like free speech. For the bigots who hate people of faith, such a visit is likewise illuminating if one takes a nice long stroll among the headstones.
To have jihadists come here to murder someone like Geller is an attack on free speech itself, once the person has gotten the notoriety Geller has.
It is regrettable that some have not learned that exiling people from the country when their speech is objectionable is unAmerican.
It’s also what that atheist Stalin did with Trotsky.
Bunya June 16th, 2015 at 10:10
“It’s also what that atheist Stalin did with Trotsky.”
We get it. You hate Atheists. Get over it, you charlatan.
Bunya June 16th, 2015 at 10:07
I didn’t say she should be executed. I’m saying if she’s looking for tangible results, she should go to the middle east. They’ll listen to her.
greenfloyd June 16th, 2015 at 22:18
Your exact words.
Bunya June 17th, 2015 at 09:51
That’s right. I couldn’t care less if someone wants to shoot her dead. If she wants to stir up trouble, she should expect trouble in return. That doesn’t mean I asked for her execution.
Obewon June 17th, 2015 at 09:57
Americans worldwide would far safer with Geller crossing over to her feigned paradise realm.
greenfloyd June 17th, 2015 at 21:17
If that’s how you really feel than you are not different than our little bundle of hate Geller! And that hate seems to blind you and many others here abouts to real enemy, the real threat to our peace and freedom. I’ll repeat, you can ignore me, you can ignore Geller but you can’t ignore a bomb or a bullet in your head.
Bunya June 17th, 2015 at 21:58
And who is the real enemy here? The lunatics or the woman standing in front of them shouting, “Go ahead! Shoot me! I dare you!”? You can’t tell me Gellar was innocent in all this. She knew her art show was extremely risky, but she was willing to risk not only her own life, but those around her. She’s extremely lucky these lunatics didn’t blow up a crowded subway in retaliation for her stupid stunt..
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Great. I find it interesting that you, who thinks this woman’s first amendment rights supersedes the safety of those who may fall victim to her idiocy, is passing judgment on me. This woman’s blinding intolerance could’ve caused a disaster of epic proportions, and if my criticizing her stupid stunt brands me a “bigot” in your book, then I gladly accept that badge of honor.
greenfloyd June 18th, 2015 at 09:06
You obviously have your head in the sand.
FYI: CBS reports yesterday the FBI arrested another jihadi wannabe who came to their attention form information found with the Garland attackers.
Geller 6*, Terrorists 0!
* – 3 confirmed kills, 3 arrests … and counting.
Bunya June 18th, 2015 at 10:08
Then start your own “draw Mohamed” contest. I pretty much don’t care. But when the suicidal Jihadist lunatics come looking for your family, then it’s been nice knowing you.
greenfloyd June 18th, 2015 at 21:35
I think that sums it up…
tracey marie June 18th, 2015 at 22:00
yet here you are making trolls response s for days
greenfloyd June 18th, 2015 at 22:47
I so look forward to your daily abuse… admit though I chuckled at your absurdity: trolls do not respond. No! They hit and run, just like a terrorist!
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 01:56
That’s Bunya for you. Twice now, when he didn’t agree with my opinions, his solution was for me to leave.
Bunya’s solution is merely a form of censorship and is not rooted in the values this country was founded upon.
America should be a place where people can say provocative, offensive, stupid things and not be murdered for it the way Theo Van Goh or the people working at Charlie Hebdo were.
Bunya’s bigotry blinds him to such a degree that he’s willing to excuse terrorism, favor censorship and reduce free speech if they provide a pretext for taking shots at Christians.
Bunya June 16th, 2015 at 03:09
Whenever you visit us, you usually post your displeasure with either the subject matter or others expressing their opinions. Now I’ve merely suggested that if you find us offensive, perhaps you’d be happier on another site. It was merely a suggestion.
And yes. America SHOULD be a place where people should be free to express themselves, but I think that with free speech comes great responsibility. If people want to draw offensive depictions of Mohammed knowing it may cause an uproar, then they should be ready to accept the consequences of their actions.
I find it necessary to point out that I’m not a bigot. I don’t excuse terrorism, favor censorship and reduce free speech, but I’m quite sure you do. You see, I’ve noticed you like to project your unfavorable qualities onto others. But that’s okay. We’re liberals here. Instead of venting our anger by maybe trashing Atheists and/or Muslims, we prefer to turn the other cheek. It’s less stressful.
And if you think that by my pointing out the fact that Pam Gellar held her festival in a predominantly Christian nation, surrounded by Christians constitutes me “taking shots at Christians”, you’d fit in quite well at Fox “News”. They’re great at fabricating stories. Plus, they have many people who, like you, think Christians are forever being persecuted – for example, Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum, Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly, to name a few.
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 04:14
I have no trouble rebutting your points and am revolted by forms of censorship such as those you resort to. Here we have 2 examples.
I agree with many people and disagree with many, too. That this is something you are concerned with is for you to deal with, I don’t care.
I go wherever I want and don’t take orders from you or anyone else.
I am happy here and have been, mostly, since 2007. That some noob is bothered by what I post and feels the need to run my business doesn’t bother me much, either, because I do just fine handling my own business, thank you very much.
I have not suggested you leave for another reason besides my opposition to forms of censorship. I have an agenda and part of it is to help people with views such as yours to be more consistent and to see that bigotry, regardless of the target is wrong. I need you to stick around because, while you have made some progress, there is a long way to go. I’ve gotten you to admit that there are differences between some Christian sects, but you still haven’t let go of your prejudice. That’s ok, it was a long slog in the 60s and 70s and I know the path.
Bunya: We’re liberals here. Instead of venting our anger by maybe trashing Atheists and/or Muslims, we prefer to turn the other cheek. It’s less stressful.
Given my vastly greater experience here than you, while yes most of us are liberals, we have had many people across the political spectrum post here. Some were enjoyable to converse with. Too bad you weren’t around for my discussions with DrKH or that Louisianan lawyer. But that was years before you arrived.
Your “turning the cheek” in this case has been to wish ill consequences on someone expressing free speech. You turned that cheek with name-calling and turned it again with your habitual resort to a form of censorship of speech you don’t agree with.
Me, I don’t think there should be consequences like murder, which was what was intended in this case. I think people should be free fro that sort of intimidation or lesser threats. When I go to the Louvre, one of my favorite paintings is Goya’s “Maja” and one by Manet whose title escapes me. Both were scandalous and cause for great controversy in their time, but now we see how all those “consequences” were wrong.
Below, you say you wouldn’t care if Geller was murdered.
Me, I have a greater appreciation for the value of life, even that of a jerk.
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 01:48
Charlie Hebdo was published in a mostly Christian country, surrounded by Christians.
Same with Theo Van Goh.
I don’t recall Van Goh or the victims at Charlie Hebdo being referred to as “cowards,” nor do I recall people here challenging them to go work in Muslim countries before they were murdered.
After they were murdered, the overwhelming reactions I recall were more along the lines of sympathy, rather than blame and name-calling for the victims…..
Bunya June 16th, 2015 at 02:06
I don’t consider Pam Gellar or Charlie Hebdo any type of heroes. I find their brand of hatred and bigotry distasteful and very childish – but that’s just me.
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 02:21
We agree on this one. While we have to have free speech, it pisses me off that we have to defend the rights of people with these things to say, but we do.
In our history there have been many cases where freedom of speech was at stake and often it was some jerk or a crappy piece of “literature” at issue.
It can be interesting to go back and read works that previously generated great controversy or were banned outright.
Ever read Ulysses or Lady Chatterly’s Lover?
When I go to the Louvre, one of my favorite paintings is Goya’s “Maja,” which was extremely controversial back in the day….
Ormond Otvos June 15th, 2015 at 16:12
Death of Geller would be a net gain to society.
greenfloyd June 15th, 2015 at 22:26
So you are cheering for the terrorists? Let me make a note of that… :)
Ormond Otvos June 16th, 2015 at 02:01
You’re illiterate, you know…
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 02:27
Greenfloyd made a point you can’t address.
Really now, the better move i to just say you were a bit hasty and caught up in the moment and didn’t really intend to justify murder.
See if you can get over here on the side of those opposing terrorism, even when the victim is a jerk.
Good grief, I didn’t like Ronald “Dutch” Reagan, but was disgusted that Hinkley would try to murder him and it pisses me off that Hinkley has been getting these vacations from the nut hut…
greenfloyd June 16th, 2015 at 04:21
So noted, with two check-marks. One more and you are dead to me.
Speaking of death… So do you really, really, really want to be known as siding with the terrorists who also want to cut off her pretty little head? Or as they asked in Ferguson, “Who’s side are you on?”
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 05:01
I think you’ll like my reply to the same post, greenfloyd, but it’s been 3 hours waiting for moderator approval….
Ormond Otvos June 16th, 2015 at 13:01
Grow up, Floyd. That’s a false binary. Learn to think with a little depth. I see more alternatives than “for her or for terrorists”. I see, for example, “against her, and against terrorists.” Can I have my third strike now?
greenfloyd June 16th, 2015 at 22:11
No third-strike, this time. You actually made a good reply without resorting to some cheap-shot.
What’s a “false binary?” Do you mean a false equivalency? Like “all Muslims are terrorist,” for example?
I’m suggesting we, as a nation, better understand who the real enemies of peace and freedom in America really are. We can put Geller on that list, although in my view she’s way down toward the bottom of it. In the end, her crazy and offensive scheme had desirable results, 3 dead jihadi, (traitors to America) are nothing to sneeze about. The only other person I can think of who can make such a boast is Obama himself, and who just this weekend took-out al qada’s #2 in Yemen. Good shooting Mr. President!
Ormond Otvos June 16th, 2015 at 22:35
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
Which you follow up with “we as a nation”. I would venture that in a time of such polarization, corruption, vote-buying and voter suppression, “we” doesn’t exist in any meaningful form.
That’s just appealing to one of the worst aspects of human behavior, tribalism.
greenfloyd June 16th, 2015 at 23:00
I was not familiar with “false binary,” thanks for the link. I think, in this case, Geller is the “false dilemma.”
greenfloyd June 16th, 2015 at 23:59
Opps… posted too soon.
We do exist in a “meaningful form,” we are the United States of America. That still means a lot to most Americans. Of course it’s not easy and like it has done before division rears its ugly head until somebody, like Obama, comes along and resets our despair by showing we can do great things, historical things that will hopefully inspire future Presidents and generations of Americans in this ongoing struggle for peace and justice.
It may be a form of “tribalism,” yet I still think it’s true, “United we stand, divided we fall.” My understanding of “tribalism” was that it was a necessary step on the evolutionary ladder we’re still climbing. I suspect it’s in our DNA. Early humans organized and pooled their resources and talents for survival, very basic socialism. Jump ahead a few hundred-thousand years and now we have electric lights so we don’t have to keep the fire going all night. That was a very important job back in the day… of humans dropping, or pushed, down from above.
It seems tribalism is a Catch22. It does sometime descend into war, such as we saw in our bloody Civil War in the 1860s and of course the Nazi’s in the 1930s and 1940s At the same time it was the cradle of civilization. Tribes gave rise to towns and cities and states. This inspired education, architecture, literature, public works and today the highest standard of living for more people than the world has ever seen.
tracey marie June 16th, 2015 at 22:54
you really like to troll and make yourself feel superior with your blk/wht cbabble.
greenfloyd June 17th, 2015 at 00:21
I like to engage in polite, tough and intelligent discussion. I’d like to ask you, “What makes you think I feel superior?” but I don’t want to get off topic.
So how should we score your desire: I assume you favor terrorist’s behead Geller? Will that be public, or private?
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 01:43
Holding distasteful art contests and making insulting comments are well below the bar for me when it comes to what merits the death penalty.
It appears our valuation of a human life varies considerably.
Will June 15th, 2015 at 08:11
We, free people, will not allow ourselves to be cowed by Muslims who want to control the world.
amersham46 June 14th, 2015 at 20:47
ye shall reap what you sow ,,,,( don’t I sound so Biblical )
Benji0804 June 15th, 2015 at 03:42
This is a slippery slope with denouncing these contest and “supporting” Muslims it will lead
to a higher body count with Jihadist thinking they can get away with the killings, because it
is saying you are doing right with suppressing free speech.
I say provoke them and poke them to have the moderate Muslims show their true colors.
You know you can poke, ridicule Christians without nothing happen to you.
What does that say for moderate Muslims when you can’t draw Muhammad without them
attacking you or trying to kill you?
jasperjava June 15th, 2015 at 04:17
What does that say for moderate Muslims when you can’t draw Muhammad without them attacking you or trying to kill you?
Obviously, is they are trying to kill you, they’re not moderate Muslims.
Denouncing these contests is the same as denouncing cartoonists who draw bigoted depictions of Jews as hooked-nosed money-grubbing bankers, or Blacks as thick-lipped lazy watermelon-eaters.
Just because you have free speech doesn’t mean that you have to be an asshole.
Benji0804 June 15th, 2015 at 05:05
there are a few hadith (supplemental teachings) which have explicitly prohibited Muslims from creating visual depictions of figures aka Muhammad.
I say again feel free to draw Muhammad since it’s only Muslims who can’t draw him and I have no intention of never doing what a Muslim want’s, since we are not a Islamic country.
Pilotshark June 15th, 2015 at 09:21
” I have no intention of never doing what a Muslim want’s, since we are not a Islamic country.”
but you have no problems voting in republicans who sign a pledge to shrink the government to drown in a bathtub, by a guy who is Muslim and have known ties to the Muslim brotherhood and also terrorist. how do you square that turd?.
tracey marie June 15th, 2015 at 16:02
Unless you are dr. Tiller and a few others, as well as nurses.
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 03:44
Benji0804: “I say provoke them and poke them to have the moderate Muslims show their true colors.
You know you can poke, ridicule Christians without nothing happen to you.
First, that’s a crappy way to go through life – going around being a troublemaker. As for me, I go around doing the opposite – I try to be nice to people. It’s the way I was raised. The result is people are nice right back to me.
You need to get to know some Muslims. The Arab Muslims have a well-deserved reputation for generosity and hospitality.
You will find that self deprecation is a characteristic found in humans of every faith as well as among agnostics and atheists. It is not a trait confined to Christians.
What does that say for moderate Muslims when you can’t draw Muhammad without them
attacking you or trying to kill you?
The moderate Muslims I have known for over 30 years where I live have not tried to attack or kill me. That’s because we have been nice to each other and have not gone around like you, poking people and trying to provoke them.
It’s a shame you were never taught good manners.
TKList June 15th, 2015 at 03:46
Muslim delusions with the Quran and jihad are scourges on humanity. Blame clerics, imams and mullahs for spreading militant Islam, blame Iran and Saudi Arabia.
Muslims will have issues with the rest of the world for eternity. Sharia is not compatible with civilized society and never will be
dave-dr-gonzo June 15th, 2015 at 10:43
Neither of fundamentalist Xtianity, which is a far more dire threat to your liberty and freedom than anything that the right claims to be “Sharia Law®!!!1!”
Ormond Otvos June 15th, 2015 at 16:08
There’s plenty of fundamentalist ideology to go around. ALL major religions have an uncivilized streak.
Saying that “God told me to do it!” excuses a lot of personal failures of empathy and morality. Make no mistake, morality and religion are very lightly connected.
People will do good for each other because that’s how we’ve evolved. It takes religion to warp that with messages from the weird subconscious that rolls around in religion like a pig in $hit.
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 01:38
Atheism has a rather uncivilized streak.
In an attempt to create a new society of atheists, the commie atheists slaughtered 100 million people in less than 80 years. That is more than those killed in all the wars of recorded time added together.
A claim that incivility is a result of faith is false. It is an aspect of human nature and can be found in atheist societies.
You don’t seem to understand the role that faith plays in the lives of the overwhelming majority of believers and how that is reflected in the order that faith brings to society. Founding Father John Marshall wrote eloquently on this topic.
Where I live, in very poor urban and rural areas, the church plays an extraordinarily positive role in the lives of people.
Where I live, 78% of the food distributed by food pantries and food banks are done by faith-based organizations.
Where I live, in a poor neighboring rural county, most of the youth sports leagues are administered by churches.
Where I live, the homeless shelters are run by faith-based organizations.
Where I live, the soup kitchens that feed the homeless and the organizations that do the most to help the homeless are faith-based outfits.
If you ever find yourself in the vicinity of Fredericksburg, Va., I’ll be glad to take you around so you can roll around in this “shit” and tell those doing so much to help those in need how warped their subconscious is for them to do these things.
Get involved, Mr. Otvos, and I’ll bet you find the same sorts of things are being done quietly, without fanfare in your community too. You will then be faced with a decision as to whether you will change your opinion to reflect they great majority or the handful of kooks who make the news or are posted on sites like this to generate clicks.
greenfloyd June 16th, 2015 at 22:26
Thanks for reminding me to include “atheist-extremists” on my list above.
SkeeterVT June 15th, 2015 at 18:21
The Nostradamus prophecy of World War III warned that it would be a war over religion. The mounting saber-rattling by Muslim extremists is triggering equally fierce saber-rattling by Christian extremists in the U.S.
greenfloyd June 16th, 2015 at 04:06
“Christian extremists?” I’m not sure that’s a very accurate title, it needs some context. Nonetheless here we are, faced with too many “… extremists” in America.
Let’s see:
There’s home-grown jihadi “lone wolfs” and apparently some small cells connected to a larger network which extends all the way to the Middle East. The FBI doesn’t know exactly how many, although, they have recently admitted to having “hundreds” of individuals under close observation!? And I swear I am only as paranoid as the FBI itself. :)
There are also home-grown extremists/terrorists who for purposes of identification are mainly rural, undereducated white males, many of them in their 60s eager to indoctrinate a new generation of haters. And they come in an assortment of crazy, KKK, Nazis, “patriots,” “open carry,” “anti-abortion,” “anti-gay,” blah blah blah. Unlike the jihadi though, some of these groups and individual haters enjoy political and financial support from within the Republican political establishment, i.e. David Duke. Like the jihadi mentioned above, many of these folks also pretend to represent religion. And ironically this group shares the dubious distinction of also wanting to destroy America and turn it into a theocracy or dictatorship!
There’s no doubt in my mind we Americans are in a dire situation just considering the above threats to peace and freedom. But that’s not the half or even quarter of the evil that lurks among us.
Sadly we have to also include the police in the mix of extremists/terrorists, but with the same serious qualification as we do with connecting Muslims and terrorism. And, cops are faced with bad laws (ie Drug War, New Jim Crow, etc.) and in some places a racist hierarchy developed over generations that a rank and file officer can do little about, other than quit. But after the ones with a conscience go, we’ll be left with the racists, the corrupt and very dangerous ones. On the plus side we can eventually control the police by dealing with social and economic inequity which will help restore trust and respect for government in general which also undercuts both the other groups above. Of course it’s vital we have leadership in the White House and Congress to keep making that happen.
Lastly, we come to the most deadly, evil and insidious group of extremists/terrorists among us here in America. No, they are not the corporations, although some of them work like big-business and run various corporate fronts, especially in the banking sector.
And like jihadi this group is also prone to extreme violence and often terrorize entire communities where they have taken root, places cops never go into alone. Yet unlike jihadi, this violence plays out everyday, usually in dribbles and drips. It’s in Portland today, yesterday it was Cleveland, who knows where it will raise it’s ugly head tomorrow? And this has been going on a long, long time in America. I believe the harm it has caused dwarfs anything the groups above can match. (Except the Nazis when they were at their peak in the 1940s.) Never again!
I find it difficult to find a single name or label that describes what I’m getting at here. I like the term, “Drug War Prison Industrial Complex,” but it’s long and cumbersome. “New Jim Crow” sums it up pretty well. It’s hard to define this group because it is so big, so prolific and intertwined with everything else we take for granted. Like the economy. In fact, this thing, whatever it’s called, already is it’s own economy and some economist have predicted, in light of the emergence of the “Dark Web,” that if it goes on much longer, it may surpass the so-called “main-stream economy.” That money is empowering terrorism!
This group is also the most racially and ethically diverse of the of extremists/terrorist in our midst. All of them are represented here, although that’s certainly nothing to be proud of. And that’s the most insidious part of all this discussion. Wither it be “radicalization” of the youth in Muslim communities, or the attraction to Gangsta-culture so prevalent in our society today. This group does not need to do any recruitment, the would-be gangsters and thugs are dying, literally, to get in on the action and live the life.
There’s so much more but I know that’s enough for now, I apologize for the unusually long reply.
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 01:22
Depends on what version of Sharia is implemented.
Just as it is foolish to lump all Christians into one basket, it is likewise foolish to do the same with Muslims. For centuries Muslims have lived in peace around the world in many different countries. In America they are not just productive, peaceful citizens, but having them here and there not being much trouble because of it shows how wrong you are.
Your post saddens me, because I am old enough to remember the civil rights movement. For many years after the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act were passed, we then had the task of integrating our society and it was a long process to get to where we are now. One of the biggest lessons to be learned had to do with stereotypes that were at the root of prejudice. This was constantly discussed and finally, when enough people learned the lesson, we were able to make progress.
Looking back, many of those prejudices were so silly. In athletics, for example, it was thought that blacks were incapable of coaching, that one should never, ever, under any circumstances have a black quarterback or point guard. Because of their race, African Americans would never be able to do those things, and many others in society.
It was the same sort of thinking reflected in your post.
This is what saddens me, because I am optimistic about our country as I enter my sunset years, but I keep seeing things pop up that should have been solved – that WERE solved many decades ago. These things, such as your prejudice, will slow our progress.
But there will come a time when thoughts such as those you expressed will be seen as silly as those that held that blacks would never be able to sit on the Supreme Court or anchor a network news broadcast.
TKList June 16th, 2015 at 01:27
You misread it. The post is about Muslims who are delusional about the Quran and jihad and kill innocent people on purpose in the name of Allah and Islam, not about all Muslims.
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 02:36
Ok, if you’re saying those are the ones who will always have trouble with the rest of the world. I got the first part but thought the second part was speaking of all Muslims.
Sorry I misinterpreted and thanks for the clarification.
Will June 15th, 2015 at 08:07
Islamists thrive in creating fear anywhere and in the USA, we have allowed them in our neighborhoods under the guise of islam means peace as told us by Obama.
Dwendt44 June 15th, 2015 at 13:38
We’ve allowed them in our neighborhoods because of the freedom of religion in our Constitution. We’ve allowed them here because 99.99% of them ARE law abiding an peaceful.
Will June 15th, 2015 at 14:53
We have no way of knowing anything about their ideologies when we let them in our country so don’t lie.
No way out June 15th, 2015 at 15:46
Whack job alert!
orygone June 15th, 2015 at 18:05
little high on the number there dwen.
whatthe46 June 15th, 2015 at 13:52
what neighborhoods do you think our home grown “christians” lived in that bombed a building full of children, and shot up schools full of teens and babies?
Will June 15th, 2015 at 14:52
Your Muslim brothers killed them because of islam.
tracey marie June 15th, 2015 at 16:01
a political whore trolling…hilarious
orygone June 15th, 2015 at 18:01
cant stand geller but did these christian killers you speak of do this in the name of christ?
whatthe46 June 15th, 2015 at 19:22
oh some most certainly did. they killed doctors who performed abortions. and some, maybe not in the name of “christ” but, considered themselves “christians.”
orygone June 16th, 2015 at 01:20
So no then
bpollen June 15th, 2015 at 15:12
Gee, somebody had a big, heaping bowlful of Haties as part of a balanced breakfast.
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 01:05
I have known Muslims in my neighborhood for over 30 years. They are wonderful, generous, polite, kind people who provide jobs in the community with their business.
Guess where our intelligence and law enforcement agencies are going to have to go to recruit agents and informers who infiltrate groups like ISIS?
The Muslim community, that’s where.
We need people who are fluent in the language, manners and customs of those who would do us harm.
People who make bigoted, stereotypical comments like yours help to make it less likely for us to find such agents to work for us.
Making it more difficult for us to infiltrate and find out the intentions, capabilities, weaknesses and organizational details of these groups serves to weaken our efforts to defeat them.
In other words, being a bigot helps the enemy.
Memorial Day is coming. I plan on being at either the Quantico National Cemetery or Arlington for the ceremony they put on. Afterwards I walk among the graves and it is not difficult to find a number of headstones with a symbol that indicates the veteran buried there was a Muslim. That kind of thing helps make the bigotry you display melt away….try it this Memorial Day, Will….
Will June 16th, 2015 at 01:50
Nonsense reality seems to offend you.
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 02:31
I described reality and did not say or imply being offended.
Enjoy innanet pergatory!
Benji0804 June 15th, 2015 at 12:05
I don’t vote.
whatthe46 June 15th, 2015 at 13:54
well, mental retards such as yourself shouldn’t.
tracey marie June 15th, 2015 at 16:02
then shut the hell up.
No way out June 15th, 2015 at 15:46
What does “it” expect? Roses?
Ormond Otvos June 15th, 2015 at 16:10
The same mental sickness that makes terrorists is rampant in your remarks about Obama: fear, fear, fear!
You think you’re helping somehow, but you’re not.
Pilotshark June 15th, 2015 at 17:47
Interesting>>>>
Not sure where you are going, or wanting to convey to me, so maybe a little more explanation would be nice.
thanks
SkeeterVT June 15th, 2015 at 18:16
I suppose it was inevitable that Muslim extremists would target Pamela Geller for her equally extremist Islamophobia. They obviously see each other as mortal enemies — like matter and anti-matter — that cannot co-exist.
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 00:55
It is wrong to equate someone who has a show of cartoons and who says distatseful things to murderers.
One would think by now people would have learned from the beheadings of Americans and others in Syria that the Islamic State is looking for any pretext to chop heads off people – and they are doing it.
burqa June 16th, 2015 at 03:35
HEY MODERATORS! I have a post below that has been waiting for “approval” from one of y’all for over an hour. Would one of you be so kind….?
Bunya June 16th, 2015 at 10:26
“I go wherever I want and don’t take orders from you or anyone else”
Good for you. Whatever makes you happy.
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“That some noob is bothered by what I post..”
Insult understood – and ignored.
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“Your “turning the cheek” in this case has been to wish ill consequences on someone expressing free speech…”
That wasn’t what I meant, but I’m sure you interpreted my message to fit you agenda.
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“Me, I don’t think there should be consequences like murder, which was what was intended in this case…”
Once again, you interpret my remarks to fit what you want them to say. Unfortunately, I have no control over your perception.
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“Below, you say you wouldn’t care if Geller was murdered.”
And I don’t – much like I didn’t care that Hitler was murdered.