Ben Carson: God Told Him Answers To His Chemistry Final In A Dream
Make sure that if you are a Republican candidate for president that you mention “God” as often as possible. It works especially well at prayer breakfast.
As Carson explained it, his goal of becoming a doctor was nearly derailed in his first semester at Yale University when he was failing his chemistry class to such an extent that he would not have been able to pass even if managed to get an A on the final exam. Fortunately for him, this particular professor had a policy that anyone who was failing the class could receive double credit on the final and so Carson asked God for a miracle before committing himself to study for the exam the night before.
But instead of studying, Carson fell asleep and had a dream in which he was alone in an auditorium as some “nebulous figure” wrote out chemistry problems on the blackboard.
“When I went to take the test the next morning, it was like ‘The Twilight Zone,'” Carson said. “I opened that book and I recognized the first problem as one of the ones I dreamed about. And the next, and the next, and the next, and I aced the exam and got a good mark in chemistry. It worked out okay and I promised the Lord he would never have to do that for me again.”
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Suzanne McFly May 7th, 2015 at 16:08
Who is he fooling? Please tell me people will understand that all he is doing is pandering.
Mark May 7th, 2015 at 16:13
Why can’t God get him to tell the truth about the aim of the current GOP. That is, to further enrich the wealthy, dismantle all social programs, and blame the poor. It is truly sick how they have twisted religion to suit their agenda.
arc99 May 7th, 2015 at 16:51
and God told me to never vote for Ben Carson for President.
I asked why. She said it was actually the student sitting next to Carson who received the test answers from heaven. Carson just copied off their paper..
Larry Schmitt May 7th, 2015 at 17:01
You didn’t need god to tell you that. You figured it out all by yourself. Your dog figured it out. Hell, your goldfish figured it out.
Larry Schmitt May 7th, 2015 at 17:00
Then maybe they should have given the medical degree to god, instead of this tool.
spacegod May 7th, 2015 at 17:16
Cheating is cheating.
I don’t care if God did it.
However, if that’s the only way God can win….
Perhaps we need a new one.
Dwendt44 May 7th, 2015 at 17:44
I’m resolved problems and questions when I’ve slept on them. No big deal and no imaginary beings involved.
Angelo_Frank May 7th, 2015 at 17:54
And gullible people send money to this huckster? He’s just one of the multitude of GOP candidates that have figured out that becoming a candidate for the presidency yields easy money.
FatRat May 7th, 2015 at 17:54
I thought Right Wing Watch got trolled or fell for a spoof, until I verified it on WND. Accurately quoted, kept thinking it was the Onion or a SNL skit!
http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/ben-carson-touts-greatness-of-god/
So it appears according to Carson that you can ‘pray the gay away and additionally get better grades’ through the wonder-working power, of the Almighty Righty.
I still have a sneaking suspicion someone was spoofing a M*A*SH* episode where Hawkeye/Alan Alda relates a story from medical school.
http://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/view_episode_scripts.php?tv-show=mash&episode=s05e14
U804 – Hawk’s Nightmare
Hawkeye-Alan Alda – This happened while I was in my first year of medical school.
Radar O’Reilly (No relation to Bill O’Reilly: Tides go in tides go out, never a miscommunication)- Right.
Hawkeye -I was taking an exam in anatomy.
It was really tough.
They asked questions like, “How many bones are there in the hand?” I was stymied.
I kept saying to myself, “How many bones are there in the hand?” And then I heard this little voice that said, “Twenty-four.
” I looked around the room, and there sitting over on the windowsill was this little gray squirrel with a very intelligent face.
And he pointed at his hand, and he said, “Twenty-four.
” So I wrote it down.
Then after the exam, I rushed over to the library to look it up.
And would you believe it? That stupid squirrel was wrong by four bones! I went looking all over the campus for him.
I wanted to kill him.
And I finally found him over on a bench by the psych department.
“You were wrong!” I screamed at him.
“There’s 28 bones in the human hand!” “Oh,” he said, pointing at his hand.
“I thought you meant a squirrel’s hand.
Radar- ” I don’t think I can use that story.
Hawkeye- Do you want me to make one up? Frank, help us out.
OldLefty May 7th, 2015 at 18:37
I knew a kid for whom God wrote the answers on his hand.
allison1050 May 7th, 2015 at 18:58
Aww hell now we have another idiot that’s got a pipeline to god.
jybarz May 7th, 2015 at 20:49
OMG, he is bloody super dumb!
Maxx44 May 7th, 2015 at 22:43
Why is it that god speaks only to RWNJs?
allison1050 May 7th, 2015 at 22:49
’cause they’re special! ;o)
Chris May 7th, 2015 at 22:55
OK. When will Trump demand Carson reveal his college transcripts?
trees May 7th, 2015 at 23:02
Dr Benjamin Carson, accomplished neurosurgeon, a black man, and inspiration….
Ridiculed by those who post here regularly.
Duly noted.
AAASuperPatriot May 8th, 2015 at 00:37
I don’t ridicule him for being either black or a neurosurgeon.
But I scratch my head at the ignorance he constantly vocalizes about even the basics of democracy and governance.
OldLefty May 8th, 2015 at 07:05
Most people think it’s a shame that he has allowed himself to become a parody of a right wing buffoon.
I was first amazed at his comments about Saul Alinsky in an interview;
Carson: “Will you listen? You have to take a long-term look at the ascent of something that fundamentally changes the power structure of America. You have to be someone who reads. Who is well-read. I want you to go back tonight. I want you to pull out what Saul Alinsky says about health care under the control of the government.”
-Interview with Evan Gahr
Saul Alinsky never said anything about health care under the control of the government”, the only source for that was a chain email written 40 years after Saul Alinsky’s death.
He also said; “The Alinsky-ites say, One of his rules: Never have a conversation with your adversary, because that humanizes them. And your job is to demonize them. They
don’t want you to talk.”????
(That is not one of his rules and he never said any such thing.)
He said ; “many aren’t familiar with the principles laid out in “Rules for Radicals,” and certainly have no idea the book is dedicated to Lucifer. Yet, because they have not yet educated themselves, they “blindly follow, like the pied piper over the cliff.”
Dr Carson is clearly not familiar with the principles laid out in “Rules for Radicals, (or he is and he is lying).
(The book is dedicated to Irene, and there is page where he quotes Thomas Paine and Rabi Hillel and a little joke about Lucifer being the first radical to rebel against the establishment).
Not only was Saul Alinsky an atheist, but Jews don’t even believe the story of the “rebellious angel”.
Alinsky’s book is only 196 pages, one would think before he spouts off such provable nonsense, he would read it first, instead of claiming to be “well read” “educated” on the topic, while demonstrating that he either has NEVER read, and is totally uneducated on the topic, or is blatantly lying just to parrot the Pavlovian talking points designed to appeal to a certain niche audience.
There are some things that are so telling about a person, and Dr Carson’s willingness to portray himself as someone who “knows” about Alinsky when he clearly does not, just shows you that he is willing be a big phony baloney for the most shallow and base reasons.
It’s a shame because he was on icon, especially among African Americans who now see him as just another right wing sellout.
Dwendt44 May 9th, 2015 at 12:33
He’s not all that familiar with the fable of the ‘Pied Piper’ either.
anothertoothpick May 8th, 2015 at 07:20
Do you trust people that tell you that “god talks to me”?
trees May 9th, 2015 at 15:11
That’s a great question.
I trust the Holy Bible, and I believe that the book has been completed.
I believe that revelation from God, via His Son and through His Spirit, was for communication, so that we could know Him, so that we could have the opportunity to understand our situation.
The Gospel literally means, the good news.
In that context I believe that God speaks to all of us. We all have the ability to hear God, and we can ignore Him also.
“But trees, what about the different interpretations?”
I believe there is only one correct interpretation. The correct interpretation is to understand what the author is saying, and that’s done by reading each word, and understanding the sentences they compose, the sentences forming paragraphs, the paragraphs forming chapters, the parts coming together as a whole, the whole as a single book, being composed of many books….
Did God give Benjamin Carson wisdom via a dream?
Only Dr Carson knows whether that account is true.
Does it cause me to scrutinize Carson carefully?
Yes.
I am not a Seventh Day Adventist.
Nor could I be.
I believe Dr Carson is.
That’s a whole nother ball of wax.
But I do recognize Carson’s accomplishments in medicine, and I will not ridicule his beliefs
William May 9th, 2015 at 15:14
I am not a Seventh Day Adventist.
Nor could I be.
I believe Dr Carson is.
That’s a whole nother ball of wax.
Please explain.
trees May 9th, 2015 at 15:19
For what purpose?
To understand better what I believe?
Or, to attempt to injure me with your pointy stick?
William May 9th, 2015 at 15:32
“To understand better what I believe?”
Hence my point.
My wife is an Adventist. Hey we have different Sabbath days, but
Here’s the thing.
Tolerance. Aside from the fact that you can add a decade to your life by eating like an Adventist, her nearly superhuman athletic abilities (Adventists are all about healthy lifestyles). She will hand her last dollar to the poor. (I’ve seen that).
She spends her quiet morning times meditating and reading her Bible. Her currency is not money. She is the poster child of Christian charity, mercy, kindness and beauty.
I respect her faith, and she respects mine.
Here is something she never does.
Justify a political agenda with religion.
trees May 9th, 2015 at 15:48
Cool.
I would never ridicule your wife, and I don’t think I’ve ever ridiculed your Catholicism.
If I have, please forgive me.
Why could I not be a Seventh Day Adventist?
I haven’t studied the Adventist teachings for some time, and in the interest of answering somewhat promptly, I’m going to cheat and lift off of Wiki….
burqa May 7th, 2015 at 23:22
So Carson is saying God instigated a cheating scheme?
trees May 8th, 2015 at 00:05
Cheating? Not sure I’m following you….
Dwendt44 May 8th, 2015 at 00:33
That’s no surprise. getting the answers from someone else is cheating in every school I’ve attended.
burqa May 10th, 2015 at 00:33
It might be fun to see how long it takes trees to figure out that very simple concept that children learn much more quickly.
burqa May 8th, 2015 at 04:08
Carson describes a cheating scheme.
I recall the same thing happening at one of the service academies a few years ago where someone managed to get the answers to a test and give them to students before they took the test.
Expulsions followed.
Carson is not only saying God cheated for him, but he refuted at least 2 places I recall the Bible says God is no respecter of persons. In this case, Carson is saying God gave Carson but no one else the answers to the thest ahead of time.
It also sounds like Carson is saying he would not have passed had he not cheated.
trees May 8th, 2015 at 07:45
Cheating scheme? Carson describes a revelation of knowledge that he says was received during a dream, while sleeping. God did not write the answers on Carson’s hand, He also did not take the test for him. What Carson describes is tutoring…
As far as biblical passages that support your views that divine knowledge is not provided to individuals, citations please.
I’ll offer Solomon, whom God granted wisdom……
burqa May 8th, 2015 at 08:25
What Carson describes is what happened at the Naval Academy when students got copies of an electrical engineering exam beforehand.
24 middies were expelled for violating an honor code that is more moral than Ben Carson.
http://tech.mit.edu/V114/N24/cheating.24w.html
Carson got “tutoring”, you say, and the “tutor” gave him the answers to the test?
Same thing happened at Florida State where football players were given answers to tests by “tutors” and “academic advisers.”
The NCAA, being more moral than Carson, whacked FSU pretty good:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3958292
trees May 9th, 2015 at 17:36
Did God engage in cosmic shenanigans when He blessed Solomon?
burqa May 9th, 2015 at 20:00
I’m not going to play your game of constantly changing the subject and never responding to a point, then pretending it is a conversation. All you do is turn it into two people talking past each other. One day you will thank me for helping you understand how to talk to people.
The point here is Carson described a cheating scheme that gets students punished, including expulsion when they give and receive answers to tests ahead of time.
If you want to have a discussion, that is the point on the table.
Carson getting the answers to a test ahead of time.
trees May 9th, 2015 at 21:15
Carson describes having a dream. Carson says that this dream consisted of instruction…
When an instructor teaches a class he illustrates his lesson visually, such as writing out the “problems”, and then solving them, providing the answers…
Now, your assertion is that there was a direct exchange of information between parties, and that the actual answers to the test that was taken that day were provided in advance. I’m left to infer that Carson somehow managed to memorize these answers that were provided, as you haven’t named the party who supplied the answers.
Can you,
A) tell me the name of the party who wrongly supplied the information to Dr Carson?
And,
B) explain the method used in the transference?
You’re going to need to do more than make allegations. Please provide something of substance.
OldLefty May 9th, 2015 at 21:38
Most people just believe that Ben Carson studied like everybody else, and is making the dream stuff up.
trees May 9th, 2015 at 21:44
Fair enough. Thank you Lefty
OldLefty May 9th, 2015 at 21:48
Welcome, and Good Night to all.
trees May 9th, 2015 at 21:53
You too, you have a good night as well
burqa May 10th, 2015 at 00:00
Carson was taking a test he was unprepared for.
He was not there to give or receive instruction.
Carson and the other students were there to take a test and give the correct answers on that test.
Carson attributed the dream to the Lord at the end of the OP and he said he was given what he needed to get the right answers. The other students were not, therefore Carson had an unfair, unequal advantage.
He had the answers before the test, just like the middies at the Naval Academy.
That’s cheating.
trees May 10th, 2015 at 00:23
So, if you dream, and in your dream you receive wisdom or answers, you’ve somehow cheated? That’s an interesting view, as most consider cheating on an academic test to involve something other than receiving the answers during a dream, while sleeping.
I have a question, how many of those whom you’ve cited as cheating, other than Carson, received the answers in a manner that would be consistent with Carson?
Specifically through the act of dreaming, and as a benefit of Divine generosity.
burqa May 10th, 2015 at 00:54
You’re not getting it.
I don’t believe the story to begin with.
I’m just pointing out an aspect that doesn’t seem to have occurred to Carson.
Carson did not solve the test the way the instructor intended or the way all the other students had to solve the same test.
Carson describes having an unfair advantage.
I’m sorry you don’t get the point I have made more than once that the method of getting the answers matters no more than if the writing on a cheat sheet was printed or in cursive. I’m not going to repeat the point. You’re beginning to repeat yourself and sorry, I don’t have the time.
All the students in the class could have dreamed about the test.
That would just involve them and no one else giving them the answers.
Carson describes someone else giving him the test answers, and not just a general tutorial on the subject.
Carson is telling a stupid lie.
trees May 10th, 2015 at 14:59
Then Carson never cheated. You see, it’s illogical to maintain that something transpired while simultaneously maintaining that it never happened……
burqa May 10th, 2015 at 00:23
Trees: “Can you,
A) tell me the name of the party who wrongly supplied the information to Dr Carson?”
Carson answered that himself:
“…I promised the Lord he would never have to do that for me again.””
Trees: “B) explain the method used in the transference?”
Carson described it.
I can’t explain it and don’t have to.
I think he made it all up and I can’t explain how something that didn’t happen worked. It is for the author of the fiction to explain, not the reader.
Carson had the chops already. He passed many chemistry tests before he got into medical school and probably passed many more after this one.
This is merely a story he made up to toss a bone to pander to evangelical support. Each of the GOP candidates will come up with some gimmick or another to go after the same votes.
It is cheating to give someone answers to a test beforehand.
It’s cheating if they were on a cheat sheet.
It’s cheating if they were written on his wrist.
It’s cheating if he saw the test beforehand and memorized the answers.
It’s cheating if he got the answers radioed to him through an earpiece.
It’s cheating if he did not solve the problems the same way all the other students had to, but had outside help of any sort that provided him the answers beforehand.
It is cheating if no one can explain how he got the answers.
It is cheating if he lied about how he got the answers.
It is cheating if he only used some of the answers he got ahead of time.
It is cheating if he didn’t get caught.
trees May 10th, 2015 at 00:33
Ok, so if I’m understanding you, he cheated because he knew the answers, but he learned them through some kind of supernatural means……
I’m sorry, but don’t you laugh at others for taking similar views?
You’re trying to have it both ways here…..
You know, like being upset when someone overlooks a title, but not thinking it any big deal when the one whose title was overlooked does the same?
burqa May 10th, 2015 at 00:36
Trees: “Ok, so if I’m understanding you, he cheated because he knew the answers, but he learned them through some kind of supernatural means……”
That’s his claim, not mine. My claim is this was cheatring and the manner in which he cheated didn’t make any difference. Cheating is cheating.
I’m not trying to have anything two ways.
Carson described a cheating scheme. He had the book sense to pass the test but lacks the common sense to understand that getting the answers to the test beforehand was cheating.
trees May 10th, 2015 at 00:51
I’m sorry, but I gotta ask this….
Have you been drinking?
burqa May 10th, 2015 at 00:33
Trees: “When an instructor teaches a class he illustrates his lesson visually, such as writing out the “problems”, and then solving them, providing the answers…”
That is not what happened.
You are describing a normal class, like all the other students took alongside Carson. That is how the other students solved the problems on their tests and how Carson took his other tests.
For this one, someone else, NOT the professor gave Carson the answers outside the classroom before he took the test. Carson did not have to pass by his own talents, like every other student. Carson was helped by someone else..
trees May 10th, 2015 at 00:49
Wow, Carson somehow obtained the answers to a chemistry test while sleeping…… I dunno, I’m not seeing the cheating……
I think if you can dream the correct answers, that’s good enough for me…..
They weren’t stolen or copied, they didn’t come from any other materially existing person, and they were not written down on a cheat sheet.
Hey Burq, if you survey the comments…….
You’ll find a consensus on this.
trees May 8th, 2015 at 00:07
sounds to me like God granted him wiwisdom.
AAASuperPatriot May 8th, 2015 at 00:36
We’ve all heard Ben Carson say the most idiotic things.
Yet, he must have a decent IQ to be a surgeon.
I guess conservatism is a chosen ignorance.
Dwendt44 May 9th, 2015 at 12:28
Conservative thinking is a mental disorder. It can be cured but the person must be willing.
ObrooSir May 10th, 2015 at 02:50
Honestly, you don’t need a relatively high IQ to become a surgeon. It just means that he’s very talented on one subject. It doesn’t mean that he’s incredibly intelligent or apt to make correct and factual arguments and theories. The higher your IQ, the more likely you are to be open-minded and more attuned to reality. Also, you wouldn’t be caught dead making such sensationalized, ill-equipped arguments, like Carson. He’s an incredibly narrow-minded, naive man, and if his IQ were higher, he’d have a broader sense of his world and the subjects he discusses, which he clearly doesn’t. Out of curiosity, I would love to have him test his IQ.
fahvel May 8th, 2015 at 02:31
someone said this ass was educated because he’s a doctor – now he reveals he’s a fabricated joke made by his god – would any of you let this doctor treat you for anything???? hangnail, zit??? the man’s an opportunistic piece of side show crap.
burqa May 10th, 2015 at 02:39
I might hire him to shovel snow from my driveway…………
……………………………………………………………….mebbe turn my compost pile.
Warman1138 May 8th, 2015 at 04:36
Ben Carson is proof that one could be perceived as both smart and stupid at the same time, a bi-polar intellect within a political opportunist. It appears that the stupid side is winning, furthered in a quest for opportunity. With the smart side popping up just enough to make him look good. An excellent wannabe, excellent.
Darksnark May 8th, 2015 at 04:46
So Ben Carson got crib notes from God and cheated his way through a chemistry final?
That doesn’t say much for Ben or God….
Buford2k11 May 8th, 2015 at 07:34
This guy is nuts…keep him away from our Nuclear Forces and the Button….