White House Response To Charlie Hebdo Attack Is Noticeably Different Three Years Later
The gunmen are still at large as of this writing, and among the dead are the cartoonists whose work has made the magazine a target of violence for years. The White House released a statement by President Obama Wednesday morning, condemning the attack (via email from The White House):
I strongly condemn the horrific shooting at the offices of Charlie Hebdo magazine in Paris that has reportedly killed 12 people. Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims of this terrorist attack and the people of France at this difficult time. France is America’s oldest ally, and has stood shoulder to shoulder with the United States in the fight against terrorists who threaten our shared security and the world. Time and again, the French people have stood up for the universal values that generations of our people have defended. France, and the great city of Paris where this outrageous attack took place, offer the world a timeless example that will endure well beyond the hateful vision of these killers. We are in touch with French officials and I have directed my Administration to provide any assistance needed to help bring these terrorists to justice.
The president reiterated those sentiments Wednesday afternoon, following a meeting with Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State John Kerry:
“One thing I’m very confident about is that the values that we share with the French people, a belief, a universal belief in freedom of expression, is something that can’t be silenced because of the senseless violence of the few.”
The magazine was targeted before over its satirical treatment of the Prophet Muhammad when, in November of 2011, its headquarters was firebombed. They had just put out an issue re-titled “Charia Hebdo,” featuring Muhammad as the magazine’s “guest editor.” About a year later, when Innocence of Muslims was causing unrest around the world that culminated in the attacks in Benghazi, the magazine decided to publish an issue featuring cartoons of the prophet. At the time, in only his second White House briefing following the Benghazi attacks, Press Secretary Jay Carney was asked about the cartoons, and offered qualified support for the magazine, as well as criticism of their judgment…READ MORE
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edmeyer_able January 7th, 2015 at 15:23
JMO mocking the extremists of daesh is one thing but mocking the Prophet Muhammad is another matter, does anyone else think mocking Jesus is the same as mocking the westboro baptist church?
Budda January 7th, 2015 at 17:56
Yes.
Hirightnow January 7th, 2015 at 18:11
Your screenname and response…
lol.
amongoose January 7th, 2015 at 19:12
But the difference is that when you mock Jesus or the westboro baptist church their followers don’t come kill you.
And haven’t been doing it continuously for 1400 years.
OldLefty January 7th, 2015 at 19:44
That’s the difference between secular countries and (Insert Religion) Republics.
(weather or not they guys came from an Islamic Republic.)
RJ Rushdooney advocated stoning here…. but in a secular nation he was fringy.
For interesting reading;
Read the comment section in the Pakistani , The Dawn;
http://www.dawn.com/news/1155496/12-dead-in-shooting-at-paris-offices-of-satirical-magazine
The Pakistani intelligentsia is always beside itself.
amongoose January 7th, 2015 at 20:17
That he is, loony tunes nuts, but at least all he has the power to do is make himself look like an idiot.
(prime candidate for our island)
Pakistani intelligence plays both sides of the fence, just like ours. They too are now fighting something they helped create.
They preach it in Wahhabism, and in the Hadith, both of which teach this as acceptable, yet are shocked when their followers practice it?
Little double standard/speak there.
“We must fight against increasing racism, xenophobia and Islamophobia in Europe which threaten all our values. We must also fight against any form of terrorism,”
.
Is it really Islamophobia if they are killing you daily for your beliefs being different from theirs? And have been doing it for 1400 years.
OldLefty January 7th, 2015 at 20:45
Actually, back in the 1950’s Pakistani, Saadat Hasan Manto wrote
“Letters to Uncle Sam”, sarcastic essays about why we were supporting radical Islam.
Exerpt;
21 February 1954
“Dear Uncle,
I wrote to you only a few days ago and here I am writing again. My admiration and respect for you are going up at about the same rate as your progress towards a decision to grant military aid to Pakistan. I tell you I feel like writing a letter a day to you.
Regardless of India and the fuss it is making, you must sign a military pact with Pakistan. because you are seriously concerned about the stability of the world’s largest Islamic state since our mullah is the best antidote to Russian communism. Once military aid starts flowing, the first people you should arm are these mullahs. They would also need American-made rosaries and prayer mats.
Cutthroat razors and scissors should be top of the list, as well as American hair color lotions. That should keep these fellows happy and in business.
If this gang of mullahs is armed in the American style, the Soviet Union that hawks communism and socialism in our country will have to shut shop. I can visualize the mullahs, their hair trimmed with American scissors and their pajamas stitched by American machines in strict conformity with the Sharia.
Their prayer mats would be American .
Everyone will then become your camp follower, owing allegiance to you and none
else.”.
My husband says that they were so jealous of the Pakistanis because while the Indians were sticking to Ghandi’s edict, “Home spun cloth only”, and they had one car, the Indian Ambassador, the Pakistanis had the best American cars, they had color TVs, (the Indian upper middle classes had black and white, for 3 hours per day).
Meanwhile, while India was a blossoming democracy, Pakistan was rotting.
amongoose January 7th, 2015 at 20:54
Yup, that enemy of my enemy thing bites you in the butt every time it’s tried.
But we still never seem to learn, no matter how painful the lesson.
OldLefty January 7th, 2015 at 21:06
We did it all over the region;
Overthrowing Mossadegh, supporting the Muslim Brotherhood over Nasser, arming the wackos in Afghanistan, (The Brits supported the Wahabs over the Ottomans)…
Remember, in the late 1980s, Pakistani President Benazir Bhutto, feeling the mujaheddin network has grown
too strong, told George H. W. Bush, “You are creating a jihadi Frankenstein.”??
amongoose January 7th, 2015 at 21:23
And we have been in bed with the Saudi’s and that radical Wahhabist state for how long?
The Middle east is a 1300 year old version of the Hatfields and Mc Coys since the first succession dispute when Mohammad died.
.
I keep wondering when we will ever learn to keep our nose out and take care of our own.
Probably never, if I read DC right.
OldLefty January 8th, 2015 at 06:25
Why do you think it’s DC?
amongoose January 8th, 2015 at 09:12
Well it’s a bit of thread derailment, but I have a second engineer helping me, Lefty.
Why DC?
Because Washington DC is the head of the snake. The tail that wags it is K Street. Legislation more and more seems to be written to benefit those who fund their campaigns rather than the American public they were elected to serve. Bonehead (Bonher) purchased, while the ACA was being written over 200,000 dollars in stock of the very companies who were helping write the legislation and would benefit from it. I’m quite sure those on both sides of the aisle profited from it just as well. His return was over 30 percent in stock value growth, that is insider trading that sends anyone else to jail, but congress, by their own legislation is exempt from those laws. They long ago stopped serving us and began serving themselves. When the highest concentration of the richest people are in the nations capitol, there’s a problem. Because I don’t think too many of them became multi-millionaires from businesses they founded, but from taxpayer money and information we regular folks weren’t privy to.
ACA, NAFTA, GATT, repeal of Glass Steagal, changes to Dodd Frank (Warren and Cruz are both right on this one), and on and on have benefited only those who contribute heavily. The TPP is being written now. Bernie Sanders has asked to see the agreement, and been denied “permission” to see the trade agreement. This is honest and open government?
We police the world because it is profitable for connected interests. We interfere in others affairs because it is profitable for a few. It always seems however that we the people are the ones who pay for it in blood and treasure. Weren’t too many senators sons squatting in the bush with me, you serve with any?
OldLefty January 8th, 2015 at 09:17
The tail that wags it is K Street.
_________
I think it’s the other way around.
Our foreign policy has been designed by Big Business for at least over a century, as has been Britain’s.
amongoose January 8th, 2015 at 09:30
Actually could be said they are all members of the same corporation, they are in bed together in a sleazy motel room, and we get left outside in the lobby, and have to pick up the tab.
OldLefty January 8th, 2015 at 09:35
That is true, but that is also our fault, because we;
– Do nothing to make 1000 phone calls from voters more significant than 1 phone call from one guy with a $1,000 check.
– Passively accept the “money = speech” meme.
If money equals speech, than speech equals money, and should I be able to call the bank and speak to them for a specified period of time, as a mortgage payment??
amongoose January 8th, 2015 at 10:26
And we keep sending the same crooks back again, and again, and again. An informed electorate is a big problem as well.
Personally I think someone should be able to donate anything they want to any candidate or advocacy group they wish. No bundling, straight up contributions. Yes it would end up with a lot of money in political campaigns and advocacy groups but they would be accountable for it by openness.
All donations should be a matter of public record, sunshine is a wonderful disinfectant. But it depends on those voting actually doing some digging and holding them accountable. Civics education and responsibility are sorely lacking in our country.
OldLefty January 8th, 2015 at 10:38
We send the same crooks back, because they have the money.
And not all of them are crooks. Some resist and some are doing what their constituents want and some are doing what the only people they ever hear from tell them to do.
I agree with the ‘informed electorate’, although I think that the media, and particularly TV has given up on that a long time ago, as they see their only function as delivering viewers to advertisers.
But I would like to see ALL private money taken out and have publicly financed elections, or at least the bare minimum donated by voters, not corporations or unions or any other “group”.
amongoose January 8th, 2015 at 10:50
We would need a constitutional amendment for that, any law passed (see Dodd-Frank) will be gutted later.
I could go for limited donations directly to candidates, but, the supreme court has ruled that corporations, unions, and advocacy groups can donate as individuals.
The only way to solve that would be a const. amendment and I’m afraid that will never happen.
OldLefty January 8th, 2015 at 11:04
I agree.
Remember Benjamin Franklin said, “… If you can keep it.”
One hope, I think is the technology to bypass advertisements, but I don’t know if people see the value in that.
amongoose January 8th, 2015 at 11:17
We need technology to turn up the intelligence of the programming as well.
I watch little TV, got tired of it’s lack of anything substantive and intelligent long ago.
The news has become tabloid.
And the programming inane.
Your name says a lot,
you old line liberals and we old school libertarians had a lot in common.
OldLefty January 8th, 2015 at 13:24
Agreed.
Actually, I quit watching TV (except before falling asleep) after I quit smoking.
If you can not smoke or play with the accoutrements of cigarettes (playing with the foil was a favorite)… how does one just sit there????
At least what I watch before I fall asleep, is something I taped or purchased.
We are right now considering “cutting the cord”.
amongoose January 8th, 2015 at 15:55
That’s rich, TV as a cure for insomnia.
Well it will help numb the mind and help ya sleep I guess.
.
I can’t, would miss the reruns of Barney Miller, and a few things on discovery, and history channel.
cecilia January 7th, 2015 at 22:46
ALL ideas can and should be mocked, examined, satirized, and pulled like taffy through the truth machine.
Every
Single
One
Guest January 7th, 2015 at 16:23
JMO mocking the extremists of daesh is one thing but mocking the Prophet Muhammad is another matter, does anyone else think mocking Jesus is the same as mocking the westboro baptist church?
Budda January 7th, 2015 at 18:56
Yes.
Hirightnow January 7th, 2015 at 19:11
Your screenname and response…
lol.
amongoose January 7th, 2015 at 20:12
But the difference is that when you mock Jesus or the westboro baptist church their followers don’t come kill you.
And haven’t been doing it continuously for 1400 years.
OldLefty January 7th, 2015 at 20:44
That’s the difference between secular countries and (Insert Religion) Republics.
(weather or not they guys came from an Islamic Republic.)
RJ Rushdooney advocated stoning here…. but in a secular nation he was fringy.
For interesting reading;
Read the comment section in the Pakistani , The Dawn;
http://www.dawn.com/news/1155496/12-dead-in-shooting-at-paris-offices-of-satirical-magazine
The Pakistani intelligentsia is always beside itself.
amongoose January 7th, 2015 at 21:17
That he is, loony tunes nuts, but at least all he has the power to do is make himself look like an idiot.
(prime candidate for our island)
Pakistani intelligence plays both sides of the fence, just like ours. They too are now fighting something they helped create.
They preach it in Wahhabism, and in the Hadith, both of which teach this as acceptable, yet are shocked when their followers practice it?
Little double standard/speak there.
“We must fight against increasing racism, xenophobia and Islamophobia in Europe which threaten all our values. We must also fight against any form of terrorism,”
.
Is it really Islamophobia if they are killing you daily for your beliefs being different from theirs? And have been doing it for 1400 years.
OldLefty January 7th, 2015 at 21:45
Actually, back in the 1950’s Pakistani, Saadat Hasan Manto wrote
“Letters to Uncle Sam”, sarcastic essays about why we were supporting radical Islam.
Exerpt;
21 February 1954
“Dear Uncle,
I wrote to you only a few days ago and here I am writing again. My admiration and respect for you are going up at about the same rate as your progress towards a decision to grant military aid to Pakistan. I tell you I feel like writing a letter a day to you.
Regardless of India and the fuss it is making, you must sign a military pact with Pakistan. because you are seriously concerned about the stability of the world’s largest Islamic state since our mullah is the best antidote to Russian communism. Once military aid starts flowing, the first people you should arm are these mullahs. They would also need American-made rosaries and prayer mats.
Cutthroat razors and scissors should be top of the list, as well as American hair color lotions. That should keep these fellows happy and in business.
If this gang of mullahs is armed in the American style, the Soviet Union that hawks communism and socialism in our country will have to shut shop. I can visualize the mullahs, their hair trimmed with American scissors and their pajamas stitched by American machines in strict conformity with the Sharia.
Their prayer mats would be American .
Everyone will then become your camp follower, owing allegiance to you and none
else.”.
My husband says that they were so jealous of the Pakistanis because while the Indians were sticking to Ghandi’s edict, “Home spun cloth only”, and they had one car, the Indian Ambassador, the Pakistanis had the best American cars, they had color TVs, (the Indian upper middle classes had black and white, for 3 hours per day).
Meanwhile, while India was a blossoming democracy, Pakistan was rotting.
amongoose January 7th, 2015 at 21:54
Yup, that enemy of my enemy thing bites you in the butt every time it’s tried.
But we still never seem to learn, no matter how painful the lesson.
OldLefty January 7th, 2015 at 22:06
We did it all over the region;
Overthrowing Mossadegh, supporting the Muslim Brotherhood over Nasser, arming the wackos in Afghanistan, (The Brits supported the Wahabs over the Ottomans)…
Remember, in the late 1980s, Pakistani President Benazir Bhutto, feeling the mujaheddin network has grown
too strong, told George H. W. Bush, “You are creating a jihadi Frankenstein.”??
amongoose January 7th, 2015 at 22:23
And we have been in bed with the Saudi’s and that radical Wahhabist state for how long?
The Middle east is a 1300 year old version of the Hatfields and Mc Coys since the first succession dispute when Mohammad died.
.
I keep wondering when we will ever learn to keep our nose out and take care of our own.
Probably never, if I read DC right.
OldLefty January 8th, 2015 at 07:25
Why do you think it’s DC?
amongoose January 8th, 2015 at 10:12
Well it’s a bit of thread derailment, but I have a second engineer helping me, Lefty.
Why DC?
Because Washington DC is the head of the snake. The tail that wags it is K Street. Legislation more and more seems to be written to benefit those who fund their campaigns rather than the American public they were elected to serve. Bonehead (Bonher) purchased, while the ACA was being written over 200,000 dollars in stock of the very companies who were helping write the legislation and would benefit from it. I’m quite sure those on both sides of the aisle profited from it just as well. His return was over 30 percent in stock value growth, that is insider trading that sends anyone else to jail, but congress, by their own legislation is exempt from those laws. They long ago stopped serving us and began serving themselves. When the highest concentration of the richest people are in the nations capitol, there’s a problem. Because I don’t think too many of them became multi-millionaires from businesses they founded, but from taxpayer money and information we regular folks weren’t privy to.
ACA, NAFTA, GATT, repeal of Glass Steagal, changes to Dodd Frank (Warren and Cruz are both right on this one), and on and on have benefited only those who contribute heavily. The TPP is being written now. Bernie Sanders has asked to see the agreement, and been denied “permission” to see the trade agreement. This is honest and open government?
We police the world because it is profitable for connected interests. We interfere in others affairs because it is profitable for a few. It always seems however that we the people are the ones who pay for it in blood and treasure. Weren’t too many senators sons squatting in the bush with me, you serve with any?
OldLefty January 8th, 2015 at 10:17
The tail that wags it is K Street.
_________
I think it’s the other way around.
Our foreign policy has been designed by Big Business for at least over a century, as has been Britain’s.
amongoose January 8th, 2015 at 10:30
Actually could be said they are all members of the same corporation, they are in bed together in a sleazy motel room, and we get left outside in the lobby, and have to pick up the tab.
OldLefty January 8th, 2015 at 10:35
That is true, but that is also our fault, because we;
– Do nothing to make 1000 phone calls from voters more significant than 1 phone call from one guy with a $1,000 check.
– Passively accept the “money = speech” meme.
If money equals speech, than speech equals money, and should I be able to call the bank and speak to them for a specified period of time, as a mortgage payment??
amongoose January 8th, 2015 at 11:26
And we keep sending the same crooks back again, and again, and again. An informed electorate is a big problem as well.
Personally I think someone should be able to donate anything they want to any candidate or advocacy group they wish. No bundling, straight up contributions. Yes it would end up with a lot of money in political campaigns and advocacy groups but they would be accountable for it by openness.
All donations should be a matter of public record, sunshine is a wonderful disinfectant. But it depends on those voting actually doing some digging and holding them accountable. Civics education and responsibility are sorely lacking in our country.
OldLefty January 8th, 2015 at 11:38
We send the same crooks back, because they have the money.
And not all of them are crooks. Some resist and some are doing what their constituents want and some are doing what the only people they ever hear from tell them to do.
I agree with the ‘informed electorate’, although I think that the media, and particularly TV has given up on that a long time ago, as they see their only function as delivering viewers to advertisers.
But I would like to see ALL private money taken out and have publicly financed elections, or at least the bare minimum donated by voters, not corporations or unions or any other “group”.
amongoose January 8th, 2015 at 11:50
We would need a constitutional amendment for that, any law passed (see Dodd-Frank) will be gutted later.
I could go for limited donations directly to candidates, but, the supreme court has ruled that corporations, unions, and advocacy groups can donate as individuals.
The only way to solve that would be a const. amendment and I’m afraid that will never happen.
OldLefty January 8th, 2015 at 12:04
I agree.
Remember Benjamin Franklin said, “… If you can keep it.”
One hope, I think is the technology to bypass advertisements, but I don’t know if people see the value in that.
amongoose January 8th, 2015 at 12:17
We need technology to turn up the intelligence of the programming as well.
I watch little TV, got tired of it’s lack of anything substantive and intelligent long ago.
The news has become tabloid.
And the programming inane.
Your name says a lot,
you old line liberals and we old school libertarians had a lot in common.
OldLefty January 8th, 2015 at 14:24
Agreed.
Actually, I quit watching TV (except before falling asleep) after I quit smoking.
If you can not smoke or play with the accoutrements of cigarettes (playing with the foil was a favorite)… how does one just sit there????
At least what I watch before I fall asleep, is something I taped or purchased.
We are right now considering “cutting the cord”.
amongoose January 8th, 2015 at 16:55
That’s rich, TV as a cure for insomnia.
Well it will help numb the mind and help ya sleep I guess.
.
I can’t, would miss the reruns of Barney Miller, and a few things on discovery, and history channel.
cecilia January 7th, 2015 at 23:46
ALL ideas can and should be mocked, examined, satirized, and pulled like taffy through the truth machine.
Every
Single
One