Cuomo To Ban Fracking In New York State, Cites Health Risks
After years on uncertainty, on Wednesday the Cuomo administration announced that it would ban hydraulic fracturing in the state of New York.
The New York Times reports:
“I cannot support high volume hydraulic fracturing in the great state of New York,” said Howard Zucker, the acting commissioner of health.
That conclusion was delivered publicly during a year-end cabinet meeting called by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo in Albany. It came amid increased calls by environmentalists to ban fracking, which uses water and chemicals to release natural gas trapped in deeply buried shale deposits.
A wise decision.
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neworleans878 December 17th, 2014 at 15:54
Clearly he hates America.
/s
nola878 December 17th, 2014 at 16:54
Clearly he hates America.
/s
edmeyer_able December 17th, 2014 at 16:06
My burg has been caught up in this mess for years now, we’ve gone from accepting the waste water to banning it.
http://auburnpub.com/news/local/cayuga-county-legislature-considers-hydrofracking-waste-ban/article_ad75925b-94b2-5500-8500-0d0eb6a70400.html
edmeyer_able December 17th, 2014 at 17:06
My burg has been caught up in this mess for years now, we’ve gone from accepting the waste water to banning it.
http://auburnpub.com/news/local/cayuga-county-legislature-considers-hydrofracking-waste-ban/article_ad75925b-94b2-5500-8500-0d0eb6a70400.html
tracey marie December 17th, 2014 at 16:21
Good, with the water shortages and pollution and the ultimate death of people, land, air and water this is a great decision
tracey marie December 17th, 2014 at 17:21
Good, with the water shortages and pollution and the ultimate death of people, land, air and water this is a great decision
Robert M. Snyder December 17th, 2014 at 19:31
Great news. That means more fracking here in PA. We can use the jobs. Anyway, the air in PA is 100 times healthier than the air in NYC.
Julie G December 17th, 2014 at 23:02
Let’s see what your air is like in ten years, particularly with regard to methane levels. Gotta love those temporary jobs, though, right?
Robert M. Snyder December 18th, 2014 at 00:37
PA is 59% forest cover. The population density in the county where I live is 73 people per square mile. Most liberals live in cities, so I can understand the concern about air quality. But in places where air quality is poor, the real culprit is population density.
Liberals complain about how poultry and livestock are jammed into small spaces by commercial agriculture. But the same liberals choose to jam themselves into densely populated urban areas. Go figure.
What we need are more free-range liberals. You folks need to break out of your urban cages and travel to the countryside where you can enjoy the fresh air, the clear sky, and the sound of silence.
Fracking will have a much smaller effect on my life than urban air, light, and noise pollution has on the lives of city-dwelling liberals.
http://news.psu.edu/story/293182/2013/10/29/sustainability/professor-pennsylvanias-forest-cover-remains-stable-59
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dep/html/air/index.shtml
arc99 December 18th, 2014 at 00:51
you really should get rid of those misconceptions.
here in California, Marin, Sonoma, Mendocino and Humboldt Counties are liberal strongholds and are very rural with a populace passionate about preserving the wilderness environment which includes the last remaining giant redwood trees on earth.
I happen to live in El Dorado county, another rural area. my house is about 35 miles from some of the finest whitewater kayaking in the country.
but you go right ahead and politicize a human concern for the air we breathe and the water we drink. I would only ask that when frack-baby-frack blows up like drill-baby-drill blew up in the Gulf of Mexico, at least have the integrity to accept the consequences of your decisions instead of trying to blame the Sierra Club as conservatives did with the gulf fiasco.
Robert M. Snyder December 18th, 2014 at 01:37
I’m just messin’ with ya. I live in what used to be coal country, and the stream where I usually kayak has acid mine drainage. There is not a living thing in that stream. Not even a crayfish. So yeah, I understand the concerns, and I too have concerns.
But I don’t understand the hysteria. Every energy source, including so-called “green” technologies, has drawbacks.
An ethanol plant was constructed a decade ago in a nearby town. We heard all of the usual hype about it being “green”. Now even Al Gore admits that ethanol actually results in more CO2 emissions than gasoline. The ethanol plant was nothing more than pork barrel politics for one of our local Democratic politicians. It has created very few jobs, and was even closed for a couple of years because they couldn’t find a buyer for the ethanol at a price that allowed them to break even.
I’m just getting really tired of all the hype, both pro-green and anti-fracking. Upstate New York is economically depressed and sinking. Eastman Kodak and Xerox have been sinking and pulling Rochester down with them. NY needs something. If not fracking, then what?
Julie G December 18th, 2014 at 02:20
How about building wind turbines? Solar panels? Assembling electric cars?
Robert M. Snyder December 18th, 2014 at 09:31
Look at any recent photos or video footage of a manufacturing facility and ask yourself “Where are the people?”.
If you want to build wind turbines, solar panels, and electric cars and sell them at a competitive price, you need to automate your factory as much as possible. And that means automated manufacturing processes and robotics.
This is nothing new. In the year 1900, the US coal industry employed about 640,000 people. Today it employs less than 80,000 and produces twice as much coal. So there was a 16-fold increase in productivity, but a net loss of 560,000 jobs.
This is the curse of modern technology: greater efficiency means that fewer people are needed to do the same work. So we can build lots of wind turbines, solar panels, and electric cars, but that probably won’t create a lot of jobs.
I wish I knew how to create jobs. I don’t think anyone does.
arc99 December 18th, 2014 at 00:59
and it is liberals who are lobbying to prevent those wide open spaces we all love from being subjected to the air and noise pollution you criticize.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/20130326grand-canyon-uranium-mine-ire.html?nclick_check=1
Energy Fuels Resources intends to reopen its Canyon Mine despite a 20-year federal ban on new uranium mining, imposed early last year by the Interior Department, that covers 1 million acres near the Canyon.
The company says the ban doesn’t apply because its rights are grandfathered, and the federal government agrees.
Environmentalists and the Havasupai Tribe counter that those rights were granted before science was able to show the full potential impact of uranium mining, which opponents fear will poison water that feeds natural springs in the Canyon.
“Groundwater pollution will wind up either flowing directly into the Canyon or contaminating the sole source of water for the Havasupai Tribe and ultimately the Colorado River,” Grand Canyon Trust Program Director Roger Clark said.
The trust joined the Sierra Club, the Center for Biological Diversity and the tribe in filing suit in March against the Forest Service in federal court in Prescott.
Julie G December 18th, 2014 at 02:17
I live in Colorado. While more populous than, say, WY or MT, we don’t live like sardines. I don’t want to go to great lengths to explain to you, but oil developers are getting permits to horizontally drill under my neighborhood in Greeley, CO, despite my owning the mineral rights. Some neighbors signed leases to the oil company, and some refuse, like us.
The city council said “Screw you people”, gave the permit anyway, and voted themselves big pay increases because the town coffers are overflowing. By the way, the drilling pad is 750 feet from a school. The oil companies’ water trucks and noisy equipment operate 24/7, are ruining the roads, and the air STINKS. There have been some earthquakes, possibly due to fracking. Mortgage companies, homeowners insurance companies, and title companies are beginning to avoid transactions involving homes with “industrial” operations. I am selling my home in a couple months, because I anticipate only being able to sell to cash buyers someday. But it’s all about the jobs, right?
Robert M. Snyder December 18th, 2014 at 09:21
In other words, NIMBY.
I live just outside a state forest, in a region that was thriving with coal and timber extraction 100 years ago. Today those industries are still alive, but on life support.
It is specified in my deed that I do not own the mineral rights to the coal beneath my house. When I built my house, the mason added vertical reinforcement to the foundation walls as a hedge against the possibility of subsidence due to old, undocumented mine shafts.
People stopped digging underground mines decades ago. Today we have strip mines, and for many years it was a weekly occurrence to feel the house shake and hear the windows rattle when a mine blasted a high wall.
In those days we often sat and waited for a coal train to cross the highway. Today the coal is carried on trucks (“coal buckets”) that track coal out of the mines on their tires to coat the highway (and the snow) for 1/2 mile in either direction.
Most of that coal goes to local power plants, and we all use that electricity in our homes and businesses. So nobody complains much, because we realize that the fuel to operate a power plant has to come from somewhere, and because most of our Slovak, Italian, and Polish immigrant families found a much better life here, mining coal, than they left behind in Europe.
Most of us are glad that we have sensible regulations to protect our state forest and safeguard against abuses by coal operators. But we also realize that the energy we use has to come from somewhere.
Julie G December 18th, 2014 at 02:27
By the way, we regularly go to the mountains and also rural areas, and feel the wind and listen to the birds. I love my state, and I rue the impact that is inevitable with the love my state’s elected officials have for fracking. I am praying oil and gas prices drop lower, because fracking doesn’t make economic sense to the oil producers below around $65 a barrel. They are already putting some wells on hold awaiting prices to go up.
Robert M. Snyder December 18th, 2014 at 09:23
Be careful what you wish for. Low oil and gas prices are not good for the wind and solar industries. It is my understanding that Solyndra was driven out of business because of low prices by its state-funded Chinese competitors.
MagnaDave★★ December 19th, 2014 at 02:18
I’m figuring that the big difference is that “liberals” decide where and how to live and animals don’t have that same free will. What a strange way to try to rationalize the inhumane treatment of animals.
And good grief. If l”liberals” took your “advice” and moved to the country, you would be whining about that, too. Then again, as everyone knows, liberals only live in cities and conservatives only live in the country because everything is just that simple.
mistlesuede December 19th, 2014 at 00:36
I am always amazed by right wing morons who think New York City is the entire state!
MagnaDave★★ December 19th, 2014 at 00:52
I have to watch Stewart and Colbert but I wanted to say Merry Christmas and I hope that you are doing well! I’ve been missing you.
mistlesuede December 19th, 2014 at 01:15
I have been dreading the Colbert show tonight. I will be lost without him. The past few weeks have brought me such despair from the news, but at least I had Stephanie and him to help lighten the load. Some good news yesterday cheered me. No fracking here and the Cuba story. Anyway, enjoy the shows. It was nice to see all the folks who showed up to pre-tape the singing section. Glad to see one of our favorite people, Hawkeye!
I just had to comment when I read this jerk’s comment on my daily Disqus email. I’ve not been keeping up with these and most other email, but didn’t delete tonight and actually read it to see what everyone is up to. It’s Christmas time and I have to make some sacrifices in order to manage all the extra things I have to do. :(
I will see you again soon. Long before Christmas. I’ve missed you too. Hugs and smooches coming your way. xoxoxoxo
MagnaDave★★ December 19th, 2014 at 02:10
What a corny and yet touching sendoff. So many famous people! Well, in a few months he’ll be back and I think his new show will be great. I think Larry Wilmore will do a good job in his old time slot, too. Thank goodness we still have Jon Stewart! Did you know that NBC offered him untold riches to host Meet the Press and he turned them down?
I hope you have a wonderful Christmas. I hope we talk before then, too! xoxoxo!
mistlesuede December 20th, 2014 at 00:33
There is a void now that won’t be filled again. I can take or leave Stewart on most days. He does have his good moments. What you’ve said about MTP seems familiar to me, but I wasn’t sure if it was really true or just a rumor. Either way, that would have been amazing. Perhaps no one would have wanted to come on the show because they would have to answer actual questions with follow ups. :) I haven’t seen MTP in years, or any of the other Sunday morning garbage. TTYL.
MagnaDave★★ December 20th, 2014 at 00:43
He confirmed their offer but said he was happy doing what he does It’s funny. I always watch Jon Stewart but could take or leave Colbert. But, I have to admit, when Colbert was “on” he was hysterical. I think my favorite line of his was “The only time Fox News is accurate is when they say “This is Fox News.”” His performance at the Press Club when President Bush was in office was one of the most epic things that I have ever seen. Jaw-droppingly epic! If you haven’t seen it, you must! It’s on YouTube and I’ll find you the link if you wish. I haven’t watched any of the talk shows, either. Ironically, I used to watch The Maclaughlin Group because it was so unintentionally funny. He’d ask for opinions and then yell “WRONG!” and move on. It was like SNL. “Jane, you ignorant sl_t!”
mistlesuede December 20th, 2014 at 01:02
I watched it live when it happened. I should watch it again just for a pick me up. I remember shrub looking like “what the hell is happening?” Colbert has brought hysterical tears to my eyes on many occasions.
OMG, I used to watch McLaughlin too. And you are right. I think Dana Carvey used to do the “WRONG” thing from time to time on SNL! I’m smiling just thinking about all of it. Thanks. :)
The “Jane, YIS” thing is an incredible classic moment from SNL. Not many of those have happened in the years since. I have not seen that in ages. We watched the beginning credits one Saturday night about a month ago and knew NO one.
We’ve stopped watching BBT this season too.
I’m off to bed. Too much to do tomorrow. Nite. xoxoxo
MagnaDave★★ December 20th, 2014 at 01:09
I’m glad we could share some laughs! We’ll talk soon! xoxoxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7FTF4Oz4dI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-oMlBSiX3g
mistlesuede December 23rd, 2014 at 01:24
Oh wow! Thanks for the link. I am going to watch it tomorrow afternoon when I can relax and LMAO!
That reminds me. I remember thinking of something else today that I thought I have to youtube that and watch it again. I have NO idea what it was now. Shoot.
MagnaDave★★ December 23rd, 2014 at 01:34
You’ll remember. I read once that our brains work in the background trying to remember anything that we try to. That’s why it “pops into your head” when you’re not thinking about it later on.
mistlesuede December 23rd, 2014 at 01:47
That happened to me the other day. I recorded Colbert’s last show for my husband, but watched it live. It was covered on so many news programs after that that he saw some of it and when they showed Samantha Powers from the Obama administration on the screen we both knew her, but I couldn’t think of her name. I went completely blank. The next day I was working in the kitchen and her name just came to me. I laughed at how weird it was. What made it come to me at that moment? It certainly goes along with what you’ve said here.
MagnaDave★★ December 23rd, 2014 at 02:16
I read that so many years ago but it made perfect sense. Another thing I always wondered about is how we can remember the lyrics to songs we haven’t heard in decades. It turns out that music activates many different areas of our brain and, therefor, the memories of it are stored in various places and/or in different ways. Something ike that. Ironically, I can’t remember exactly how it works, lol.
mistlesuede December 24th, 2014 at 11:33
Priceless! You could feel the chill in the air on that stage when he finished. They didn’t know what hit them but they knew it was not good. LMAO! Ah memories….I feel like there should have been a memorial service for the death of Steven Colbert as this persona.
Never to be seen again. :(
I think it was even funnier seeing it again after all this time has gone by and so much happened.
MagnaDave★★ December 24th, 2014 at 23:52
It really took guts for him to do that. That they couldn’t see it coming is hilarious.
ranchero42 December 19th, 2014 at 01:51
I’m confused — is this the site TL is reluctant about visiting?
MagnaDave★★ December 19th, 2014 at 02:22
I honestly don’t know.
ranchero42 December 19th, 2014 at 02:26
She misses you. We’re trying to keep her from bouncing off the walls worrying about you, Dave.
MagnaDave★★ December 19th, 2014 at 02:32
I had to watch Colbert’s last show. She’ll forgive me.
I hope.
ranchero42 December 19th, 2014 at 02:35
Dunno. It’s winter, so maybe she had claws-out for traction?
MagnaDave★★ December 19th, 2014 at 02:57
I missed her tonight but I’ll catch up with her tomorrow. Thanks for the heads up.
Robert M. Snyder December 19th, 2014 at 01:24
Kind of like the left-wingers who blame Israel for restricting the movement of Palestinians and fail to realize that Gaza also has a border with Egypt. For some reason, the Egyptians never seem to get any criticism, despite the fact that they have also built a wall.
FDRliberal December 19th, 2014 at 02:47
Kind of like, not.
mistlesuede December 19th, 2014 at 10:40
What FDR just said, exactly, you dolt.
Robert M. Snyder December 19th, 2014 at 11:20
First you called me a moron. Now you’re calling me a dolt. That says more about you than it says about me.
mistlesuede December 20th, 2014 at 00:18
Yes indeed. It says that I’m very accurate in my assessment of you. .
LOL
Robert M. Snyder December 20th, 2014 at 01:43
Let me correct my original statement: The air in *rural* PA is 100 times healthier than the air in NYC.
For the record, I lived in upstate NY for two years and have traveled all over the state, except for the Albany region. Rural NY is a lot like rural PA. You’ll find a healthy percentage of Democrats, but not very many who would call themselves liberals.
To find the NY liberals, you have to go to the cities, especially NYC. And this is true of most states: Liberals, by and large, are city dwellers. Conservatives, by and large, are rural folks.
Of course there are exceptions, but the left/right divide is largely an urban/rural divide. Town mouse and country mouse.
mistlesuede December 23rd, 2014 at 01:21
It seems you like to compartmentalize people. Whatever floats your boat.
What that has to do with the fact that fracking is endangering our air and water quality and is an asinine way to get energy for that reason, is beyond me. We need those things to survive, wherever we live.
BTW, I live in a rural area of WNY. There goes your theory.
P.S. Half of my neighbors on a street of thirty families are Democrats.
FDRliberal December 19th, 2014 at 02:50
Yes, because when you think of “fresh air”, Philly, Pittsburgh and Allentown always come to mind.
Robert M. Snyder December 17th, 2014 at 20:31
Great news. That means more fracking here in PA. We can use the jobs. Anyway, the air in PA is 100 times healthier than the air in NYC.
Julie G December 18th, 2014 at 00:02
Let’s see what your air is like in ten years, particularly with regard to methane levels. Gotta love those temporary jobs, though, right?
Robert M. Snyder December 18th, 2014 at 01:37
PA is 59% forest cover. The population density in the county where I live is 73 people per square mile. Most liberals live in cities, so I can understand the concern about air quality. But in places where air quality is poor, the real culprit is population density.
Liberals complain about how poultry and livestock are jammed into small spaces by commercial agriculture. But the same liberals choose to jam themselves into densely populated urban areas. Go figure.
What we need are more free-range liberals. You folks need to break out of your urban cages and travel to the countryside where you can enjoy the fresh air, the clear sky, and the sound of silence.
Fracking will have a much smaller effect on my life than urban air, light, and noise pollution has on the lives of city-dwelling liberals.
http://news.psu.edu/story/293182/2013/10/29/sustainability/professor-pennsylvanias-forest-cover-remains-stable-59
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dep/html/air/index.shtml
arc99 December 18th, 2014 at 01:51
you really should get rid of those misconceptions.
here in California, Marin, Sonoma, Mendocino and Humboldt Counties are liberal strongholds and are very rural with a populace passionate about preserving the wilderness environment which includes the last remaining giant redwood trees on earth.
I happen to live in El Dorado county, another rural area. my house is about 35 miles from some of the finest whitewater kayaking in the country.
but you go right ahead and politicize a human concern for the air we breathe and the water we drink. I would only ask that when frack-baby-frack blows up like drill-baby-drill blew up in the Gulf of Mexico, at least have the integrity to accept the consequences of your decisions instead of trying to blame the Sierra Club as conservatives did with the gulf fiasco.
Robert M. Snyder December 18th, 2014 at 02:37
I’m just messin’ with ya. I live in what used to be coal country, and the stream where I usually kayak has acid mine drainage. There is not a living thing in that stream. Not even a crayfish. So yeah, I understand the concerns, and I too have concerns.
But I don’t understand the hysteria. Every energy source, including so-called “green” technologies, has drawbacks.
An ethanol plant was constructed a decade ago in a nearby town. We heard all of the usual hype about it being “green”. Now even Al Gore admits that ethanol actually results in more CO2 emissions than gasoline. The ethanol plant was nothing more than pork barrel politics for one of our local Democratic politicians. It has created very few jobs, and was even closed for a couple of years because they couldn’t find a buyer for the ethanol at a price that allowed them to break even.
I’m just getting really tired of all the hype, both pro-green and anti-fracking. Upstate New York is economically depressed and sinking. Eastman Kodak and Xerox have been sinking and pulling Rochester down with them. NY needs something. If not fracking, then what?
Julie G December 18th, 2014 at 03:20
How about building wind turbines? Solar panels? Assembling electric cars?
Robert M. Snyder December 18th, 2014 at 10:31
Look at any recent photos or video footage of a manufacturing facility and ask yourself “Where are the people?”.
If you want to build wind turbines, solar panels, and electric cars and sell them at a competitive price, you need to automate your factory as much as possible. And that means automated manufacturing processes and robotics.
This is nothing new. In the year 1900, the US coal industry employed about 640,000 people. Today it employs less than 80,000 and produces twice as much coal. So there was a 16-fold increase in productivity, but a net loss of 560,000 jobs.
This is the curse of modern technology: greater efficiency means that fewer people are needed to do the same work. So we can build lots of wind turbines, solar panels, and electric cars, but that probably won’t create a lot of jobs.
I wish I knew how to create jobs. I don’t think anyone does.
arc99 December 18th, 2014 at 01:59
and it is liberals who are lobbying to prevent those wide open spaces we all love from being subjected to the air and noise pollution you criticize.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/20130326grand-canyon-uranium-mine-ire.html?nclick_check=1
Energy Fuels Resources intends to reopen its Canyon Mine despite a 20-year federal ban on new uranium mining, imposed early last year by the Interior Department, that covers 1 million acres near the Canyon.
The company says the ban doesn’t apply because its rights are grandfathered, and the federal government agrees.
Environmentalists and the Havasupai Tribe counter that those rights were granted before science was able to show the full potential impact of uranium mining, which opponents fear will poison water that feeds natural springs in the Canyon.
“Groundwater pollution will wind up either flowing directly into the Canyon or contaminating the sole source of water for the Havasupai Tribe and ultimately the Colorado River,” Grand Canyon Trust Program Director Roger Clark said.
The trust joined the Sierra Club, the Center for Biological Diversity and the tribe in filing suit in March against the Forest Service in federal court in Prescott.
Julie G December 18th, 2014 at 03:17
I live in Colorado. While more populous than, say, WY or MT, we don’t live like sardines. I don’t want to go to great lengths to explain to you, but oil developers are getting permits to horizontally drill under my neighborhood in Greeley, CO, despite my owning the mineral rights. Some neighbors signed leases to the oil company, and some refuse, like us.
The city council said “Screw you people”, gave the permit anyway, and voted themselves big pay increases because the town coffers are overflowing. By the way, the drilling pad is 750 feet from a school. The oil companies’ water trucks and noisy equipment operate 24/7, are ruining the roads, and the air STINKS. There have been some earthquakes, possibly due to fracking. Mortgage companies, homeowners insurance companies, and title companies are beginning to avoid transactions involving homes with “industrial” operations. I am selling my home in a couple months, because I anticipate only being able to sell to cash buyers someday. But it’s all about the jobs, right?
Robert M. Snyder December 18th, 2014 at 10:21
In other words, NIMBY.
I live just outside a state forest, in a region that was thriving with coal and timber extraction 100 years ago. Today those industries are still alive, but on life support.
It is specified in my deed that I do not own the mineral rights to the coal beneath my house. When I built my house, the mason added vertical reinforcement to the foundation walls as a hedge against the possibility of subsidence due to old, undocumented mine shafts.
People stopped digging underground mines decades ago. Today we have strip mines, and for many years it was a weekly occurrence to feel the house shake and hear the windows rattle when a mine blasted a high wall.
In those days we often sat and waited for a coal train to cross the highway. Today the coal is carried on trucks (“coal buckets”) that track coal out of the mines on their tires to coat the highway (and the snow) for 1/2 mile in either direction.
Most of that coal goes to local power plants, and we all use that electricity in our homes and businesses. So nobody complains much, because we realize that the fuel to operate a power plant has to come from somewhere, and because most of our Slovak, Italian, and Polish immigrant families found a much better life here, mining coal, than they left behind in Europe.
Most of us are glad that we have sensible regulations to protect our state forest and safeguard against abuses by coal operators. But we also realize that the energy we use has to come from somewhere.
Julie G December 18th, 2014 at 03:27
By the way, we regularly go to the mountains and also rural areas, and feel the wind and listen to the birds. I love my state, and I rue the impact that is inevitable with the love my state’s elected officials have for fracking. I am praying oil and gas prices drop lower, because fracking doesn’t make economic sense to the oil producers below around $65 a barrel. They are already putting some wells on hold awaiting prices to go up.
Robert M. Snyder December 18th, 2014 at 10:23
Be careful what you wish for. Low oil and gas prices are not good for the wind and solar industries. It is my understanding that Solyndra was driven out of business because of low prices by its state-funded Chinese competitors.
Nobody's Miracle (MagnaDave) December 19th, 2014 at 03:18
I’m figuring that the big difference is that “liberals” decide where and how to live and animals don’t have that same free will. What a strange way to try to rationalize the inhumane treatment of animals.
And good grief. If l”liberals” took your “advice” and moved to the country, you would be whining about that, too. Then again, as everyone knows, liberals only live in cities and conservatives only live in the country because everything is just that simple.
mistlesuede December 19th, 2014 at 01:36
I am always amazed by right wing morons who think New York City is the entire state!
Nobody's Miracle (MagnaDave) December 19th, 2014 at 01:52
I have to watch Stewart and Colbert but I wanted to say Merry Christmas and I hope that you are doing well! I’ve been missing you.
mistlesuede December 19th, 2014 at 02:15
I have been dreading the Colbert show tonight. I will be lost without him. The past few weeks have brought me such despair from the news, but at least I had Stephanie and him to help lighten the load. Some good news yesterday cheered me. No fracking here and the Cuba story. Anyway, enjoy the shows. It was nice to see all the folks who showed up to pre-tape the singing section. Glad to see one of our favorite people, Hawkeye!
I just had to comment when I read this jerk’s comment on my daily Disqus email. I’ve not been keeping up with these and most other email, but didn’t delete tonight and actually read it to see what everyone is up to. It’s Christmas time and I have to make some sacrifices in order to manage all the extra things I have to do. :(
I will see you again soon. Long before Christmas. I’ve missed you too. Hugs and smooches coming your way. xoxoxoxo
Nobody's Miracle (MagnaDave) December 19th, 2014 at 03:10
What a corny and yet touching sendoff. So many famous people! Well, in a few months he’ll be back and I think his new show will be great. I think Larry Wilmore will do a good job in his old time slot, too. Thank goodness we still have Jon Stewart! Did you know that NBC offered him untold riches to host Meet the Press and he turned them down?
I hope you have a wonderful Christmas. I hope we talk before then, too! xoxoxo!
mistlesuede December 20th, 2014 at 01:33
There is a void now that won’t be filled again. I can take or leave Stewart on most days. He does have his good moments. What you’ve said about MTP seems familiar to me, but I wasn’t sure if it was really true or just a rumor. Either way, that would have been amazing. Perhaps no one would have wanted to come on the show because they would have to answer actual questions with follow ups. :) I haven’t seen MTP in years, or any of the other Sunday morning garbage. TTYL.
Nobody's Miracle (MagnaDave) December 20th, 2014 at 01:43
He confirmed their offer but said he was happy doing what he does It’s funny. I always watch Jon Stewart but could take or leave Colbert. But, I have to admit, when Colbert was “on” he was hysterical. I think my favorite line of his was “The only time Fox News is accurate is when they say “This is Fox News.”” His performance at the Press Club when President Bush was in office was one of the most epic things that I have ever seen. Jaw-droppingly epic! If you haven’t seen it, you must! It’s on YouTube and I’ll find you the link if you wish. I haven’t watched any of the talk shows, either. Ironically, I used to watch The Maclaughlin Group because it was so unintentionally funny. He’d ask for opinions and then yell “WRONG!” and move on. It was like SNL. “Jane, you ignorant sl_t!”
mistlesuede December 20th, 2014 at 02:02
I watched it live when it happened. I should watch it again just for a pick me up. I remember shrub looking like “what the hell is happening?” Colbert has brought hysterical tears to my eyes on many occasions.
OMG, I used to watch McLaughlin too. And you are right. I think Dana Carvey used to do the “WRONG” thing from time to time on SNL! I’m smiling just thinking about all of it. Thanks. :)
The “Jane, YIS” thing is an incredible classic moment from SNL. Not many of those have happened in the years since. I have not seen that in ages. We watched the beginning credits one Saturday night about a month ago and knew NO one.
We’ve stopped watching BBT this season too.
I’m off to bed. Too much to do tomorrow. Nite. xoxoxo
Nobody's Miracle (MagnaDave) December 20th, 2014 at 02:09
I’m glad we could share some laughs! We’ll talk soon! xoxoxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7FTF4Oz4dI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-oMlBSiX3g
mistlesuede December 23rd, 2014 at 02:24
Oh wow! Thanks for the link. I am going to watch it tomorrow afternoon when I can relax and LMAO! nThat reminds me. I remember thinking of something else today that I thought I have to youtube that and watch it again. I have NO idea what it was now. Shoot.
Nobody's Miracle (MagnaDave) December 23rd, 2014 at 02:34
You’ll remember. I read once that our brains work in the background trying to remember anything that we try to. That’s why it “pops into your head” when you’re not thinking about it later on.
mistlesuede December 23rd, 2014 at 02:47
That happened to me the other day. I recorded Colbert’s last show for my husband, but watched it live. It was covered on so many news programs after that that he saw some of it and when they showed Samantha Powers from the Obama administration on the screen we both knew her, but I couldn’t think of her name. I went completely blank. The next day I was working in the kitchen and her name just came to me. I laughed at how weird it was. What made it come to me at that moment? It certainly goes along with what you’ve said here.
Nobody's Miracle (MagnaDave) December 23rd, 2014 at 03:16
I read that so many years ago but it made perfect sense. Another thing I always wondered about is how we can remember the lyrics to songs we haven’t heard in decades. It turns out that music activates many different areas of our brain and, therefor, the memories of it are stored in various places and/or in different ways. Something ike that. Ironically, I can’t remember exactly how it works, lol.
mistlesuede December 24th, 2014 at 12:33
Priceless! You could feel the chill in the air on that stage when he finished. They didn’t know what hit them but they knew it was not good. LMAO! Ah memories….I feel like there should have been a memorial service for the death of Steven Colbert as this persona.
Never to be seen again. :(
I think it was even funnier seeing it again after all this time has gone by and so much happened.
Nobody's Miracle (MagnaDave) December 25th, 2014 at 00:52
It really took guts for him to do that. That they couldn’t see it coming is hilarious.
ranchero42 December 19th, 2014 at 02:51
I’m confused — is this the site TL is reluctant about visiting?
Nobody's Miracle (MagnaDave) December 19th, 2014 at 03:22
I honestly don’t know.
ranchero42 December 19th, 2014 at 03:26
She misses you. We’re trying to keep her from bouncing off the walls worrying about you, Dave.
Nobody's Miracle (MagnaDave) December 19th, 2014 at 03:32
I had to watch Colbert’s last show. She’ll forgive me.
I hope.
ranchero42 December 19th, 2014 at 03:35
Dunno. It’s winter, so maybe she had claws-out for traction?
Nobody's Miracle (MagnaDave) December 19th, 2014 at 03:57
I missed her tonight but I’ll catch up with her tomorrow. Thanks for the heads up.
Robert M. Snyder December 19th, 2014 at 02:24
Kind of like the left-wingers who blame Israel for restricting the movement of Palestinians and fail to realize that Gaza also has a border with Egypt. For some reason, the Egyptians never seem to get any criticism, despite the fact that they have also built a wall.
FDRliberal December 19th, 2014 at 03:47
Kind of like, not.
mistlesuede December 19th, 2014 at 11:40
What FDR just said, exactly, you dolt.
Robert M. Snyder December 19th, 2014 at 12:20
First you called me a moron. Now you’re calling me a dolt. That says more about you than it says about me.
mistlesuede December 20th, 2014 at 01:18
Yes indeed. It says that I’m very accurate in my assessment of you. .
LOL
Robert M. Snyder December 20th, 2014 at 02:43
Let me correct my original statement: The air in *rural* PA is 100 times healthier than the air in NYC.
For the record, I lived in upstate NY for two years and have traveled all over the state, except for the Albany region. Rural NY is a lot like rural PA. You’ll find a healthy percentage of Democrats, but not very many who would call themselves liberals.
To find the NY liberals, you have to go to the cities, especially NYC. And this is true of most states: Liberals, by and large, are city dwellers. Conservatives, by and large, are rural folks.
Of course there are exceptions, but the left/right divide is largely an urban/rural divide. Town mouse and country mouse.
mistlesuede December 23rd, 2014 at 02:21
It seems you like to compartmentalize people. Whatever floats your boat. nWhat that has to do with the fact that fracking is endangering our air and water quality and is an asinine way to get energy for that reason, is beyond me. We need those things to survive, wherever we live. nBTW, I live in a rural area of WNY. There goes your theory. nP.S. Half of my neighbors on a street of thirty families are Democrats.
FDRliberal December 19th, 2014 at 03:50
Yes, because when you think of “fresh air”, Philly, Pittsburgh and Allentown always come to mind.