Open Carry Activist Charged With Shooting Death Of Husband, Stepdaughter
A member of Open Carry Tarrant County and Open Carry Texas, is facing capital murder charges after two people were discovered shot dead in her home. Veronica Dunnachie, 35, was arrested by police as she drove herself to a nearby mental hospital following the shooting.
Veronica Dunnachie, 35, is in custody and bail had not yet been set, according to the police.
According to Tarrant County records, the residence is owned by Russell Dunnachie, a house where Veronica reportedly lived with her husband, their three young children and his adult daughter from a previous relationship.
However, relatives of Veronica Dunnachie said she was no longer living at the home and court records indicated she filed for divorce in October.
The bodies of her alleged victims were discovered after police were called to perform a welfare check at the house.
A nearby Elementary School was briefly placed on lockdown. The lockdown was lifted shortly after Dunnachie was taken into custody.
According to a cousin, Elizabeth Rojas, Dunnachie had distanced herself from their family in recent years, and they had not seen her in nearly three weeks.
She said her cousin was an avid gun user and regularly posted about her gun use on Facebook. Those pictures were circulated by Open Carry groups.
Dunnachie has been actively involved in open carry rallies that have been staged at businesses like Target.
In the following image, Dunnachie is on the left, the wife of Kory Watkins, leader of Open Carry Tarrant County is on the right at an open carry rally in Target’s parking lot.
Fortunately, Target responded to a call from Moms Demand Action to end open carry of guns in stores and parking lots, and now asks customers to leave their guns at home. Unfortunately, Kroger has not agreed to ending this practice in their stores, even after sustained pressure from Moms, leaving their customers at risk.
C.J. Grisham, leader of Open Carry Texas, will surely deny that she was a member of his extremist group of gun toting miscreants, but there are screen shots which have circulated which will counter any denials by him and I’ll be happy to tweet them out, because I’m nice like that.
His response to the deaths in which he’s intentionally vague:
Travis Raymond Kuenstler asks CJ Grisham on Facebook to “Please delete your post and encourage others to do the same, privately.”
She ‘likes’ him, too.
Bobby is not surprised.
Amy is a gun nut and testifies at everything in support of expanding gun rights. Today, she has the sads.
“Mama didn’t raise no victim,” writes Open Carry Tarrant County.
Here she is posing with a group of armed men and women on a city park full of families and children in Ft. Worth, Texas:
Here Dunnachie is at another Texas business with Open Carry activists. The man to her left is Guy Potter, he was part of the group that menaced Moms Demand Action members last November in Arlington, TX:
Here she is looking like every other Open Carry activist. Size matters, amirite?
Veronica, just like her colleagues with the aforementioned gun groups, objects to a ban on open carrying firearms in Kroger. You see, they are all law-abiding citizens, that is, until one of them opens fire.
Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America are asking Kroger to end the practice of open carry in its stores for exactly this reason. This woman is a close associate of at least two of the folks that have been photographed carrying fully loaded high capacity weapons inside Kroger grocery store locations. Kory and Janie Watkins (both with extensive arrest records of their own) are pictured with Dunnachie in the image above.
Kory and Janie Watkin’s mugshots:
Janie Watkins at a Dallas area Kroger store.
I’ve said this countless times: We don’t know who these Open Carriers are so how are we to determine which one is a “good guy with a gun” because obviously, Veronica isn’t.
Watch:
Big thanks to my source whose anonymity will be respected here. Also, thanks to CoCo, a gun owner with gun sense.
All images obtained via social media, thereby making them fair use.
Copyright 2014 Liberaland
By: Anomaly100
Grover Syck December 11th, 2014 at 21:29
It is far past time for strict gun control.
Every gun registered, and every gun owner must have a detailed psychological work up done before taking possession of a gun.
fahvel December 11th, 2014 at 22:03
why does anyone in the usa need a gun?
Obewon December 11th, 2014 at 22:29
Exactly! Hunters can be required to keep guns and ammo in a stockade armory just like the U.K., many other nations and the U.S. Military are required to do.
Steve Harmon December 12th, 2014 at 12:14
The concept of self protection is a foreign one to you, huh?
Obewon December 12th, 2014 at 20:56
Boo! Maybe you’l learn why martial arts defeats armed delusional disorder paranoids 99% of the time.
“Coward, me?”-Lmao at open carry overcompensating Steve Harmon. This months featured member at smallpenisgunclub.com
Steve Harmon December 13th, 2014 at 10:38
Why would I learn martial arts? I legally carry a sidearm. Penis size, really? Proves my point about you childish whiners, you have no valid point, sad really.
Obewon December 13th, 2014 at 15:36
You can’t legally carry any sidearm per SCOTUS D.C. Heller until you (1) Annually pay fees and (2) pass a background check annually. (3) Submit to any local laws for (inspection, gunsafe, etc) and (4) Register all guns (and ammo) annually. Each year you must repeat steps 1, 2, 3 and 4 or you’re just another illegal gun owner like Rick Perry barred from guns and ammo possession.
Face it. Everyone laughs at you inbreds because you’re se well proven functionally and legally illiterate.
On U.S. Military bases you can’t “legally carry a sidearm” unless you are an on duty MP. Overcompensating penis envy isn’t tolerated by the “well regulated militia”-2 A requiring you to surrender all guns and ammo like Rick Perry was ordered to do!
Steve Harmon December 13th, 2014 at 17:19
Yup, I can as I don’t live in DC. Your “penis” obsession is troubling to me. I’m not here to judge if “penis” is what you desire, I prefer women. I’m not on a military base, lets try to keep the conversation focused, shall we?
Obewon December 13th, 2014 at 23:57
“The right of the people to keep and bear (penis envy) shall not be infringed”Steve Harmon seems to have a Lorena Bobbitt problem.
“Focused”? With your lack of comprehension? E.g. “No right is absolute”: Perry like all (1) indicted
And or (2) convicted felons are barred from possessing guns and ammo. Also barred from guns and ammo in the USA besides “Felons” are:
those under judicial (3) restraining orders,
legally adjudicated (4) mental defectives,
(5)Dishonorably discharged Veterans,
those on (6) DHS, (7) ATF, or (8) FBI watchlists,
and (9) non citizen residents. Steve Harmon is redflagged by at least one of these 9 categories including well proven “ignorance” A/K/A “(4) mental defectives.”
Steve Harmon December 14th, 2014 at 11:22
Okay “penis” boy, I see your lack of knowledge on the subject has led you down the same path as those that lose the conversation based on facts, you head directly to grade school insults. I’ve grown past that so enjoy your “penis” references, I’m sure we all get a chuckle from your lame tactics. Gov. Perry has been indicted, yes. Being indicted still, in Texas, allows him the ownership of all his weapons and ammo unlike you improperly asserted earlier. Your list constituting what is a felon does not pertain to Gov Perry as he has not, as of this writing, been found guilty.
amongoose December 16th, 2014 at 10:13
Their gun laws have also been ruled too restrictive. Problem is they don’t seem to want to obey the decision and are having to be sued to comply with a court decision they don’t agree with.
In Palmer v. D.C. they are trying to get Judge Scullin to hold the city in contempt of his order to enact a licensing mechanism “enabling people to exercise their Second Amendment right to bear arms.”
Steve Harmon December 12th, 2014 at 15:23
Under what laws? You advocate disobeying the Constitution? Sorry, never going to happen.
Obewon December 12th, 2014 at 20:50
US Military weapons are “well regulated” that’s why they’re “required to keep guns and ammo in a stockade armory.”-per the “well regulated”-2nd Amendment. Remember to keep your arms inside the car at all times…
Obewon December 13th, 2014 at 16:04
TX Guber Rick Perry as required surrendered any guns and ammo he possessed and is legally barred from purchasing any guns and ammo.
“No right is absolute”: Perry like all (1) indicted and or (2) convicted felons are barred from possessing guns and ammo. Also barred from guns and ammo in the USA besides “Felons” are: those under judicial (3) restraining orders, legally adjudicated (4)mental defectives, (5) Dishonorably discharged Veterans, those on (6) DHS, (7) ATF, or (8) FBI watchlists, and (9) non citizen residents. Steve Harmon is redflagged by at least one of these 9 categories including well proven “ignorance” A/K/A “(4) mental defectives.”
Steve Harmon December 13th, 2014 at 17:27
I fail to see the connection between Gov. Perry and myself, maybe you can try to explain when you have a moment.
Obewon December 13th, 2014 at 23:54
‘Oh by the way.’ On topic: Perry like all other indicted Felons, etc legally disarmed -blew a hole right on through your tin foil helmet!
Rick Perry Now Disallowed from Purchasing Firearms, Ammunition or Carrying Concealed” Your teabagg tittle forgot to mention Guber Perry was also ordered by the judge “not to possess any and all weapons.” http://www.tpnn.com/2014/08/27/shall-not-be-infringed-rick-perry-now-disallowed-from-purchasing-firearms-ammunition-or-carrying-concealed/ What’a Dope! Perry can give away any guns & ammo Guber Ricky-Bobby paid as compensation for teabagging favors, that Perry receives from his hairdresser.
“Unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person (1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year.” Teabagger “Steve Harmon” debunked as a liar and a fool by his own teabagg news network.
Obewon December 14th, 2014 at 16:13
Guber Perry was Ordered Disarmed by the Judge because he is an Indicted Felon on many felony charges.
1) Perry lost his attempt to have his case dismissed without any “Trial”-Fact!
2) Perry remains ‘legally barred from guns and ammo possession’-Fact!
3) ‘Perry Hasn’t been tried yet’-Fact!
4) “Gov. Perry was indicted not found guilty, hence, not an “indicted felon”-Steve Harmon is a Delusional Liar-Fact! When paranoids like Guber Perry, George Zimmerman & Steve Harmon were, and remain legally disarmed, they cower in fear for their lives crying like the immature babies they echo.
Obewon December 14th, 2014 at 16:47
“Yup, that’s me, too stupid.”-Steve Harmon! We can all agree that you’ve well proven yourself to be a mis/uninformed airhead e.g.
Guber Perry was Ordered Disarmed by the Judge because he is an Indicted Felon on many felony charges.
2) Perry remains ‘legally barred from guns and ammo possession’-Fact! This can happen to you too. Boo!
Proving “You Lie!” is even your own Teabagg News Network ‘splains it real s l o w: -“Shall Not be Infringed’? Rick Perry Now Disallowed from Purchasing Firearms, Ammunition or Carrying Concealed” http://www.tpnn.com/2014/08/27/shall-not-be-infringed-rick-perry-now-disallowed-from-purchasing-firearms-ammunition-or-carrying-concealed/ The teabagg tittle forgot to mention Guber Perry was also ordered by the judge to “Surrender any and all weapons.” http://www.tpnn.com/2014/08/27/shall-not-be-infringed-rick-perry-now-disallowed-from-purchasing-firearms-ammunition-or-carrying-concealed/
Obewon December 14th, 2014 at 19:05
‘eye are dumb’-Steve Harmon e.g.
Proving “You Lie!” is even your own Teabagg News Network explaining it real s l o w to “Steve Harmon”: -“Shall Not be Infringed’? Rick Perry Now Disallowed from Purchasing Firearms, Ammunition or Carrying Concealed” Your teabagg tittle forgot to mention Guber Perry was also ordered by the judge to “not to possess any and all weapons.” http://www.tpnn.com/2014/08/27/shall-not-be-infringed-rick-perry-now-disallowed-from-purchasing-firearms-ammunition-or-carrying-concealed/ What’a Dope! Perry was ordered to surrender any and all firearms to the court. Not including any guns & ammo Guber Ricky-Bobby paid as compensation for teabagging favors, Perry receives from his hairdresser.
“Unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person (1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year.” Teabagger “Steve Harmon” debunked as a liar and a fool by his own teabagg news network.
tracey marie December 14th, 2014 at 19:46
Seems you are ignoring the LINK that was provided. You are nothing more then a tired teabagg troll with a filthy big mouth and a small intellect
Steve Harmon December 14th, 2014 at 20:02
Nope, I thanked the liyin little libidiot (filthy mouth?) for the link as it proves all the points I’ve been making on the subject. The lying little libidiot has yet to prove his assertion that a judge has ordered Gov. Perry to relinquish his weaponry. I would think your use of the term, “teabagg” (two g’s?) is the only filthy mouth employed here. Try to keep up tracey. Facts are difficult to dispute unless you are, yourself, a lying libidiot. Thanks for playing along though, please stay tuned to see what the lying libidiot comes up with next.
tracey marie December 14th, 2014 at 20:04
waaa, go spew your inbred teabagg garbage at brietbart. No one cares what you babble. Personally I like watching your type troll and play the inbred fools, it makes me laugh at your desperation and obvious pathetic life on online trolling. Google is your friend lazy bagger, try it
Steve Harmon December 14th, 2014 at 20:39
No crying here, no desperation here, I enjoy using facts and upsetting little lying libidiot (that’s a combination of liberal and idiot, pretty clever, huh?) trolls like you, it brings a smile to my face. Poor thing, resorting to spewing what you intend as denigrations that are only entertainment for me, as it shows me that you have already lost based on the facts. So, please, let’s have more, let’s see how imaginative you can become.
Obewon December 14th, 2014 at 20:04
‘Any indicted Tx felon facing 1 year in prison may not ship, transport, possess, or receive firearms.’ Weapon or ammo Possession is another felony charge against indicted felony teabagger Ricky-Bobby Perry.
August 19, 2014 First Report> Indicted Gov. Rick Perry can’t carry concealed gun or buy ammo “It’s right there in federal law, specifically the federal law known as 18 USC 922(n)” http://www.mystatesman.com/news/news/local/herman-indicted-gov-rick-perry-cant-carry-conceale/ng5h2/?ecmp=statesman_social_facebook_2014_sfp#35984842.3637387.735473
Steve Harmon December 14th, 2014 at 20:32
Ahh ha ha, poor little thing, you try so hard but that’s exactly what I’ve been saying, he may not purchase guns or ammo, he must not carry concealed, we agree. Where is the reference to your assertion that he must turn over any guns or ammo that he already owns? You lose again liar. What, again, is the judge’s name that ordered him to turn over the guns and ammo that is already in his possession? Typical little lying libidiot, you make statements that you cannot back up with evidence. Keep trying though, I’ll be anxiously waiting for that name (that doesn’t exist) or for you to admit you lied, either will do.
Obewon December 14th, 2014 at 20:35
“Steve Harmon • a day ago “The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed”-Debunked as a well proven shithead by Guber Perry’s inability to “bear Arms” as an indicted felon facing 1 year or more in prison.
Next-up: Teabagger Steve Harmon pleas for OCT & OCTC admitted double murderer of her family to be rearmed in prison!
‘You’re always lying like Breitbart’-TX Tracy Marie. “Steve Harmon”-huh? “The right of the (indicted felons) to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed”-Teabagger Steve Harmon. D’oh!
No right is absolute. that’s why Felons and non-felons can’t have new machine guns, rocket launchers, grenades, Nuclear, chemical, or Bio “Arms” either!
Anomaly 100 December 14th, 2014 at 20:44
You’re done here.
whatthe46 December 14th, 2014 at 19:48
that’s simply not true that you have to be convicted of a felon to have your guns removed. a judge can order that simply based on the charges.
Steve Harmon December 14th, 2014 at 20:09
Okay, I’ll have to go with your expertise in this area. I’m referring to the Governor spacifically and the fact that he, Gov. Perry, has not received such an order as asserted by the lying libidiot that I’ve been conversing with. Thanks though.
tracey marie December 14th, 2014 at 19:48
I do not see any upvotes on your treabagg tripe
Steve Harmon December 14th, 2014 at 20:05
Can’t help you there little one except to suggest glasses, hope this helps. Merry Christmas.
tracey marie December 14th, 2014 at 20:08
trolling is a mental illness, the ACA can help you with your meds
Steve Harmon December 14th, 2014 at 20:44
Nope, wrong again, it’s a way for little lying libidiots, like you to interject yourself into a conversation with the objective of steering a conversation away from the facts, That won’t work here as I deal in facts exclusively. Don’t let that stop you though, it’s very entertaining reading your silly little, unfactual, rants. In other words, I just love pissing you and your kind off.
tracey marie December 14th, 2014 at 21:39
more impotent rage from the mentally ill steve, I know it is mean to pick on your kind….but you make it fun to poke
tracey marie December 14th, 2014 at 19:59
I love the fact that Perry lost his concealed carry permit and is disallowed from buying any guns and ammo.
Obewon December 14th, 2014 at 20:10
Perry disarmed leaves the paranoid guber hiding from his own shadow wishing he knew how to defend himself via martial arts:)
tracey marie December 14th, 2014 at 19:49
lol, you do not welcome anything but bling obedience to your teabagg tripe. You call names, attack and show your ass with every post
Steve Harmon December 14th, 2014 at 20:15
I have no idea what “bling obedience” is but, if you take the time to read my posts you will find nothing but fact, that is all I need. “Show my ass”? I have no idea how to respond except to suggest you take some deep breaths and try to view this conversation objectively. Failing that, have fun and spew as much hatred as you please because, little one, your view of me means nothing.
amongoose December 16th, 2014 at 10:06
Perry’s crime is a state crime. Rights restoration for state crimes can be restored judicially on state level. Only a federal crime requires a pardon.
Minnesota, a blue state I believe, has some of the most lax laws dealing with this.
http://www.sog.unc.edu/node/2673
http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/crm01435.htm
http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2012/08/how-to-restore-gun-rights-after-a-felony.html
Perhaps the most lenient state on gun rights restoration is Minnesota. In this state, non-violent felons can regain their firearms rights as soon as they complete their sentences, reports the Times. And people who have committed a violent felony can petition a court to have their rights restored without even notifying prosecutors.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, California has perhaps the most difficult laws to regain gun rights. In California, a felon would have to receive a pardon from the governor to regain the ability to legally carry a gun.
Obewon December 16th, 2014 at 21:57
Maybe you can ‘expalin why FL Guber “Jeb Bush” considered no more than 200 “Pardons” annually so Voting rights of FL citizens could be restored to about 80 people each year.
You must be beginning to realize why we laugh at how uninformed teabaggers are so well proven to be? (Answer 49% of self described conservatives get their political news from just 1 source: Always debunked and never updated GOP TV Faux News!)
amongoose December 16th, 2014 at 22:12
Each state, as I mentioned in the above post has different laws on restoration of rights.
Here are Florida’s.
You really need to do a bit less insulting, and more research.
And read posts a little closer.
I am trying to have a substantive discussion of issues, you seem to want to insult those who disagree with you. Something I have respectfully not done.
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/restoration.html
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/amended-rules-of-clemency-for-state-of-florida/1156219
http://followscience.com/content/519481/ex-felon-voting-rights-in-florida-revised-rules-of-executive-clemency-that-automatically-restore-civil-rights-to-level-1-offenders-is-the-right-policy
And I ask again, do YOU personally believe that a convicted felon after serving their sentence deserves a second chance and restoration of rights?
Obewon December 16th, 2014 at 22:00
BTW you must know by now Perry can’t buy or possess Guns & Ammo because of his Felony indictments? GOP TV never told y’all? LMAO!
amongoose December 16th, 2014 at 22:21
His CHL was revoked cannot carry concealed.
http://nypost.com/2014/08/22/rick-perry-cant-legally-carry-concealed-weapons-after-indictment/
Obewon December 16th, 2014 at 22:52
You read, wade through the BS & believe the Murdoch Post! Lol they couldn’t even give it away for free here in NYC. Did you figure out why the NY Post has won 00.0% Pulitzer Prizes since GOP TV bought it?
Ask Guber Ricky-Bobby to buy you or himself Guns & Ammo and see how fast he’ll be charged with additional felonies! Under federal law, he is prohibited from buying guns and ammunition while under indictment for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year. Guber Perry is charged with abuse of official capacity, a first-degree felony, and coercion of a public official, a third-degree felony, handed down by a state grand jury. He faces up to 99 years in jail if convicted of the first-degree felony!
GOP teabagger Perry for POTUDumbazz’ until conviction & incarceration~
amongoose December 17th, 2014 at 09:41
Rick Perry may not buy a weapon but can keep what he owns now. Right to own is only lost on conviction. It is temporary seizure in cases such as domestic abuse, restraining orders and such where a someones life is in danger. And no one can buy a weapon for another person, that is a straw purchase prohibited by federal law.
I came to this site by invitation in an email. I came due to my respect for the founder Alan. Although I may disagree with him on about everything except civil rights, and surveillance I respect him. He argues his point with civility and class which I assumed on a site founded by him I would find unlike most left and right side sites. It looks like I was wrong.
You do a diservice to civilized discourse as well as dishonor him with your constant abusive diatribes and petty insults.
You really need to lose the hate, it is going to eat you up inside, if it already hasn’t.
I can disagree with someone and not hate them, you it seems can’t do that.
A few lessons on proper and civil debate would be in your best interests. As would be aquiring some non-abrasive people skills. I would recomend Dale Carnige’s “How to win friends and influence people”. You don’t seem to like to refute arguments with anything but hateful insults, inuendos, and slurs. You seem to prefer an echo chamber to an exchange of ideas. Sad, because without the free flow of ideas you can’t grow, you can only rot.
Getting a straight answer is it seems is absolutely impossible. It is easier to influence someone if you are reasonable rather than constantly and venomously combative.
It seems to me that a caring, compassionate liberal would believe in giving second chances, but your refusal to commit to whether you personally think felons should be allowed restoration of rights makes me doubt your compassion and love for your fellow man.
ted December 14th, 2014 at 00:02
And typically you “seam” to be illiterate. You can’t cherry pick what you want out of the Constitution, conveniently leave the rest of it out and say it’s on your “side”!
Steve Harmon December 14th, 2014 at 11:38
Teddy teddy, If you can follow along you will find that I was referring to “penis” boys reference to “well regulated” in the 2nd amendment. I was simply adding the other part that the 2nd amendment refers to, my individual right to own and bear Arms. Please, for the sake of all that follow these postings, try to keep up, it makes it much more enjoyable for them.
ted December 14th, 2014 at 11:57
Stevie, Stevie, the 2nd Amendment isn’t that long but maybe you need to have someone read it to you. It says “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free
State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
infringed.” It doesn’t say “Every beer guzzling, tin-foil hat wearing inbred Goober with the IQ of a potato has the right to intimidate mothers with their children shopping at Kroger.”
Steve Harmon December 14th, 2014 at 12:11
Ahhhh ha ha ha, just the kind of response I was expecting from you, very good, perfect lying libidiot reply, thanks for not disappointing. By the way, very good writing of the second amendment, now try to find someone to explain it to you. You may want to ask yourself how gun shops can, legally, sell guns to anyone that doesn’t have proof they are in, “A well regulated Militia. Haven’t you ever wondered about that?
tracey marie December 14th, 2014 at 19:50
finish the complete amendment . Your kind always brietbart which is lying
Steve Harmon December 14th, 2014 at 20:21
Please do try to follow along, will you? Okay, to humor you, are probably referring to the first part that mentions the Militia. If that is what you are referring to then maybe you, unlike the other lying libidiot that I’ve had conversations with, can explain how it is that hundreds of millions of guns have been legally sold to citizens, like me, without the requirement to prove our affiliation with or to any Militia. Please address that for us all little one. Poor thing, you try so hard, so sad.
Steve Harmon December 14th, 2014 at 20:22
“Your kind always brietbart which is lying”? What is it you are trying to say?
ted December 13th, 2014 at 23:57
You might want to have someone READ the Constitution to you sometime. A bunch of beer guzzling skeered yahoos with an IQ that matches their belt size, packing heat because there is potentially a boogieman in the produce aisle at Kroger does not meet the definition of a “well regulated militia”.
Steve Harmon December 14th, 2014 at 11:33
I always keep a copy near so as to educate the ignorant, such as yourself. Any questions that I may help clear up for you? You may want to re-read the 2nd amendment. When you do, you will find it refers to two different things, one being “a well regulated militia and secondly, the right of the people. I am not in a militia and, when I legally purchased my firearms, over the years, was never asked to prove that I was. How’s that possible, an ignorant libidiot, such as yourself, might ask. It’s all there in the 2nd amendment. Pisses you off to be wrong but that’s exactly what all you little whiners are, wrong. To prove that, you can’t point to one SCOTUS decision that finds I must be in a militia in order to, legally, own firearms. Ha ha, you lose, but you already knew that, didn’t you little one. There, there, it’s okay, someday you’ll learn. That’s why I’m here, to teach, you’re welcome. Merry Christmas.
ted December 14th, 2014 at 12:16
Just because there is a comma there doesn’t mean it is talking about “two different things” and the intent was so the colonies could defend themselves from tyranny. It doesn’t say anything about a bunch of insecure, paranoid, neurotic, skeered, John Wayne wannabes who need a gun to feel like a man.
Steve Harmon December 14th, 2014 at 12:43
Okay then, I’ll ask again, how is it that guns may be sold to those of us that have no affiliation to or with a Militia? You certainly enjoy throwing out your fantasy descriptions of gun owners and I find it very entertaining to see that when you know that your argument is weak that attempted denigration is always your “go-to”. So predictable and funny. Can’t wait for your reply, ha ha.
charles johnston December 15th, 2014 at 10:47
Wow, Ted. Congratulations. I don’t believe I have ever read a more disjointed, stupid, strawman example of the 2nd amenedment. You should probably have somebody read YOU the bill of rights first.
amongoose December 16th, 2014 at 08:14
District Of Columbia Et Al. V. Heller made it clear it is an individual right.
amongoose December 16th, 2014 at 08:18
50% of UK home invasions are hot burglaries but only 10% of US homes.
Studies of criminals show they are less willing (68%) to burglarize an occupied home in US because someone there could be armed.
Obewon December 16th, 2014 at 08:29
U.S. Murder figures themselves are astounding for Brits used to around 550 U.K. murders per year. In 2011 – the latest year for which detailed statistics are available – there were 12,664 murders in the US. Of those (2/3), 8,583 were caused by firearms.
32,163 in the USA were killed by guns in 2010 and another 70,000+ are shot each year costing $174 Billion just in 2010. http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state FBI/CDC: Guns shoot 22-43 times more friends and family in the USA than any intruder or burglar e.g. this articles Open Carry TX and OCTC gun nut double murder momicide.
29% of US households owned 1 or more guns in 2008, down from 51% of homes having a gun in the 1970’s when burglary was more common: “someone there could be armed.”-Darwinism kills gun nuts far more often than any burglar looting your worthless crap, easily protected by a burglar alarm automatically notifying the PD, FD & 911 in any emergency!
tracey marie December 16th, 2014 at 08:53
what studies, some gun group
amongoose December 16th, 2014 at 09:59
And a study by an anti gun group would carry weight like the everytown study on school shootings that included after hours shootings, gang related shootings, accidental discharges by school resource officers, and suicides is legitimate?
While technically correct they are disingenuous at best.
As with anyone with an agenda you have to dig a bit sometimes.
Guns in the home do deter crime, according to a new study done for the U.S. Department of Justice by James Wright.
Wright, a professor of sociology at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, surveyed more than 1,800 inmates, all convicted of felonies, in 10 state prisons across the nation. He found that 80 percent reported that burglars avoid houses when people are home because ”they fear getting shot during the crime.”
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1985-05-05/news/0290350124_1_wright-deter-crime-small-arms
tracey marie December 16th, 2014 at 12:37
so there is no study, got it
amongoose December 16th, 2014 at 13:11
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Photocopy/97099NCJRS.pdf
Steve Harmon December 12th, 2014 at 12:12
“Need”? Don’t know. I carry a gun because I can’t carry a cop.
fahvel December 12th, 2014 at 13:53
are you really that much of a coward? Why live where you need a cop or a gun stuffed into your pants – sad sad man, eh?
Steve Harmon December 12th, 2014 at 15:21
Yup, I’m not “Billy bad-ass” like you, I’d need a gun to go against someone trying to do me or my loved ones harm. Good to know that you’ve found Utopia where there has never been an attempted crime against an innocent person. As for me, I live in reality.
Carol Saia December 13th, 2014 at 02:11
what happened to you in your life? do you have an experience?
Steve Harmon December 13th, 2014 at 10:30
Yes, I have. I am also a believer in the Constitution of these United States. So, you go head and live in denial, I choose reality. I wear a seatbelt, not because I expect to have an accident, I wear a helmet when riding my motorcycle, not because I expect to smash my head open. No need to worry about me and my sidearm unless you wish to do me harm.
Steve Harmon December 12th, 2014 at 15:24
Coward, me? You are the one scared sh*tless by an inanimate object, that’s cowardly.
DD December 12th, 2014 at 20:33
It’s not the inanimate object we’re afraid of, it’s the animate idiots holding them. We don’t want gun control on the gun but on the person owning the gun. We don’t want background checks on the gun, but the person who wants to own the gun. You are a fool if you think it is the gun that scares us. It’s you and those like you and this crazy ass woman who own the guns that we worry about. So please stop with the car analogies already.
Steve Harmon December 13th, 2014 at 10:25
Yeah, well, it’s the armed criminals that scare me. You and those like you lose and will always lose because we have a Constitutional amendment on our side, so deal with your fears, you will always lose the argument, thank God. Merry Christmas.
Steve Harmon December 12th, 2014 at 12:13
Why do you need car insurance?
Steve Harmon December 12th, 2014 at 15:17
My point is, why be without either if I can legally do so, I plan on never needing either but would feel pretty stupid if I did and didn’t have it.
whatthe46 December 13th, 2014 at 00:40
yeah. well so did they and 2 are dead, 3 children are w/o their mother and this nut case is going to prison for life. guess the 2 dead don’t have to worry about feeling stupid any longer eh?
Steve Harmon December 13th, 2014 at 10:42
Yup and if he had been armed she might be the dead one. Find a way to disarm the criminals first then we’ll see.
ted December 13th, 2014 at 23:51
Then maybe gun owners should be required to have insurance to cover the costs for the thousands of people injured or killed by negligent “responsible gun owners”, huh?
Steve Harmon December 14th, 2014 at 11:04
I’m sure many do, it’s called homeowners insurance. By the way, please share your source for the “thousands” of people injured or killed by negligent “responsible gun owners” or, as I suspect, are these just more of your uninformed “feelings”.
ted December 14th, 2014 at 12:06
Why? Are you too stupid to Google it yourself? Well, here ya go Jethro:
In 2010, unintentional firearm injuries caused the deaths of 606 people.
Between 1955 and 1975, the Vietnam War killed over 58,000 American
soldiers – less than the number of civilians killed with guns in the
U.S. in an average two-year period
From 2005-2010, almost 3,800 people in the U.S. died from unintentional shootings.
Over 1,300 victims of unintentional shootings for the period 2005–2010 were under 25 years of age.
People of all age groups are significantly more likely to die from
unintentional firearm injuries when they live in states with more guns, relative to states with fewer guns. On average, states with the highest gun levels had nine times the rate of unintentional firearms deaths compared to states with the lowest gun levels.
A federal government study of unintentional shootings found that 8%
of such shooting deaths resulted from shots fired by children under the age of six.
Steve Harmon December 14th, 2014 at 12:38
Yup, that’s me, too stupid. Now lets get to some more “facts”. As many as 200,000 women use a firearm each year to defend themselves from sexual attacks, even anti-gun Clinton researchers concede that guns are used 1.5 million times annually for self defense, citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as police do every year (1527 to 606), every year as many as 500,000 defend themselves with a firearm while away from home, State which passed concealed carry laws reduced their rate of murder 8.5%, rape by 5%, aggrivated assault by 7% and robbery by 3%. See, we both have “facts”, so what? How many of the civilians that you mention having died from gunshots (in the thousands as you mentioned) were criminals? How will you disarm those that possess guns illegally? Whine all you want, libidiot, you anti-gunners will never win and us “tin foil hat wearing, beer belly, blah blah blah, Patriotic Americans will not be disarmed, as long as we follow the law, and that pisses elitist losers like you off to no end, ha ha ha, we win, you lose.
Steve Harmon December 12th, 2014 at 12:10
Why? You really trust the Govt with that info? How does that stop those that aren’t law abiding? Why not just subject every American to a mandatory “detailed psychological work up”? 92, on average, per day killed in auto accidents, what would you have the Govt do about that?
Obewon December 11th, 2014 at 21:02
Darwinism is rapidly eliminating the 22 to 43 times more families and friends shot by gun owners than any intruder. No wonder gun owning households plummeted from 51% in the 1970’s to 29% in 2008.
fahvel December 11th, 2014 at 21:02
texas should use a rusty needle.
Obewon December 11th, 2014 at 22:02
Darwinism is rapidly eliminating the 22 to 43 times more families and friends shot by gun owners than any intruder. No wonder gun owning households plummeted from 51% in the 1970’s to 29% in 2008.
fahvel December 11th, 2014 at 22:02
texas should use a rusty needle.
Carol Saia December 11th, 2014 at 22:02
Was Veronica an abused child? Adults who feel powerless and vulnerable have had emotional, physical or sexual abuse in their backgrounds. Child abuse causes brain damage. see http://www.stopabusecampaign.com or on fb.
whatthe46 December 11th, 2014 at 23:44
are you looking to defend what she did with an excuse by “possible abuse?”
Carol Saia December 13th, 2014 at 01:07
not defend, just trying to figure out why would someone do that. its in my nature to analyse and I’ve been studying child abuse and it’s affects. Some people are able to heal, some repeat, and some go postal.
CoCo December 12th, 2014 at 17:03
Maybe. Or maybe she was just an asshole.
Carol Saia December 13th, 2014 at 01:09
I don’t think we are born assholes. We are turned that way by bad/uneducated/cruel parenting-society.
Carol Saia December 11th, 2014 at 23:02
Was Veronica an abused child? Adults who feel powerless and vulnerable have had emotional, physical or sexual abuse in their backgrounds. Child abuse causes brain damage. see http://www.stopabusecampaign.com or on fb.
whatthe46 December 12th, 2014 at 00:44
are you looking to defend what she did with an excuse by “possible abuse?”
Carol Saia December 13th, 2014 at 02:07
not defend, just trying to figure out why would someone do that. its in my nature to analyse and I’ve been studying child abuse and it’s affects. Some people are able to heal, some repeat, and some go postal.
CoCo December 12th, 2014 at 18:03
Maybe. Or maybe she was just an asshole.
Carol Saia December 13th, 2014 at 02:09
I don’t think we are born assholes. We are turned that way by bad/uneducated/cruel parenting-society.
dick_sakwrinkle December 12th, 2014 at 07:16
Stupid bad guys with guns. Assholes…every one of ’em
dick_sakwrinkle December 12th, 2014 at 08:16
Stupid bad guys with guns. Assholes…every one of ’em
Luke Atmahcok December 12th, 2014 at 08:19
So was she the “good guy with a gun”? I’m confused here.
Steve Harmon December 12th, 2014 at 11:02
Nope, just another loon that shouldn’t been near a gun. Two dead vs the 92, on average, that died in auto accidents on that day. Ban all “assault” autos? That leaves 270,000,000 guns that didn’t, unlawfully, shoot someone that day, what’s your point?
viva_democracy December 13th, 2014 at 15:40
Except, those were auto ACCIDENTS, as opposed to some ammosexual purposely shooting and killing her family. A gun was made for the end result of killing, not an automobile. #Fail
Steve Harmon December 13th, 2014 at 16:46
Tell me, what difference do you think that means to their loved ones that had to bury them. Pretty lame response on your part, don’t you think? My 15+ guns have never killed anyone, do you think I should sue the manufacturer because, in your mind,all they were made for was killing? Should I suffer some legal penalty if all I use some of mine is for target shooting? No, Automobiles aren’t made for killing, yet they do at a much higher rate than guns, do you not care about that? Your name implies that you approve of democracy, why?
Luke Atmahcok December 18th, 2014 at 08:26
Can you drive a gun to work? To the store? To take your kids to school? No. Some people need cars to get from point A to point B. People don’t really need guns. That said, I’m not against people owning guns. I just want the pieces put in place to make sure, to the best that we can, that the wrong people don’t end up owning guns.
Luke Atmahcok December 12th, 2014 at 09:19
So was she the “good guy with a gun”? I’m confused here.
runner_runner December 13th, 2014 at 16:40
Except, those were auto ACCIDENTS, as opposed to some ammosexual purposely shooting and killing her family. A gun was made for the end result of killing, not an automobile. #Fail
Luke Atmahcok December 18th, 2014 at 09:26
Can you drive a gun to work? To the store? To take your kids to school? No. Some people need cars to get from point A to point B. People don’t really need guns. That said, I’m not against people owning guns. I just want the pieces put in place to make sure, to the best that we can, that the wrong people don’t end up owning guns.
amongoose December 12th, 2014 at 09:00
And illegal carry proponents in Chicago murder hundreds a year.
mugatu December 13th, 2014 at 13:28
Yep if you are a convicted felon on parole you can drive 3 hours to Indiana get a trunk full of guns without worrying about a background check, yours is the typical ignorant comment.
amongoose December 13th, 2014 at 13:37
From a licensed dealer, or from the trunk of the car of an illegal seller?
viva_democracy December 13th, 2014 at 15:38
Indiana has some of the loosest gun laws out there. Mugatu is correct. Plus, ONLY the city of Chicago has the strict gun laws, not the entire state of Illinois.
amongoose December 13th, 2014 at 15:49
They still, by federal law require a background check for a FFL dealer to sell one. If they are selling to felons, or without a background check the laws are on the books to prosecute them. If they are selling to straw buyers who resell them that as well is illegal, prosecute them. When weapons are picked up from criminals they can be traced back to the selling dealer as all weapons shipped to them have their serial numbers recorded.
Obewon December 13th, 2014 at 23:15
“Online gun sales” from many states negate “by federal law require a background check” private sellers at Gun shows also defeat your feigned, or real ignorance. Did learn what you typed from faux newscasters or a Limbaughtomy from Lush Rimjob?
amongoose December 13th, 2014 at 23:45
Which states do not?
All online gun purchases must be shipped to a Federal Firearms Dealer, who will complete the transfer according to all the laws of your state.
As it is interstate commerce it must follow federal law which requires a background check for the sale.
I made no mention of private sellers, only dealers.
Obewon December 14th, 2014 at 00:26
Rhetorically: how uninformed are you? A: More than a dozen states sell guns online without background checks.
FBI>35% to 40% of guns are bought in the USA annually without background checks via the “Private sellers” ‘gunshow loophole’ plus about 1/4 sold by “the 2% of FFL dealers” who illegally sell guns without background checks in states, requiring background checks.
viva_democracy December 13th, 2014 at 15:39
Except, wasn’t this lady supposed to be, “a good guy/girl with a gun”? Hmmmmm.
amongoose December 12th, 2014 at 10:00
And illegal carry proponents in Chicago murder hundreds a year.
mugatu December 13th, 2014 at 14:28
Yep if you are a convicted felon on parole you can drive 3 hours to Indiana get a trunk full of guns without worrying about a background check, yours is the typical ignorant comment.
amongoose December 13th, 2014 at 14:37
From a licensed dealer, or from the trunk of the car of an illegal seller?
runner_runner December 13th, 2014 at 16:38
Indiana has some of the loosest gun laws out there. Mugatu is correct. Plus, ONLY the city of Chicago has the strict gun laws, not the entire state of Illinois.
amongoose December 13th, 2014 at 16:49
They still, by federal law require a background check for a FFL dealer to sell one. If they are selling to felons, or without a background check the laws are on the books to prosecute them. If they are selling to straw buyers who resell them that as well is illegal, prosecute them. When weapons are picked up from criminals they can be traced back to the selling dealer as all weapons shipped to them have their serial numbers recorded.
Obewon December 14th, 2014 at 00:15
“Online gun sales” from many states negate “by federal law require a background check” private sellers at Gun shows also defeat your feigned, or real ignorance. Did learn what you typed from faux newscasters or a Limbaughtomy from Lush Rimjob?
amongoose December 14th, 2014 at 00:45
Which states do not?
All online gun purchases must be shipped to a Federal Firearms Dealer, who will complete the transfer according to all the laws of your state.
As it is interstate commerce it must follow federal law which requires a background check for the sale.
I made no mention of private sellers, only dealers.
Obewon December 14th, 2014 at 01:26
More than a dozen states sell guns online without background checks: Background Checks
The single most important thing we can do to reduce gun violence is to require a criminal background check for every gun sale.
->16 states and Washington, D.C., already do this for all handgun sales. In these states, 38% fewer women are shot to death by their partners, 39% fewer on-duty police officers are shot and killed, 49% fewer people commit suicide with guns, and there is 48% less gun trafficking. Americans overwhelmingly support background checks. Surveys show that 92% of Americans—including 82% of gun owners and 74% of NRA members—support criminal background checks for all gun sales. But under pressure from the gun lobby, The Koch’s Congress and most states have failed to close the deadly loopholes in the background check system. http://everytown.org/issue/background-checks/
FBI>35% to 40% of guns are bought in the USA annually without background checks via the “Private sellers” ‘gunshow loophole’ plus about 1/4 sold by “the 2% of FFL dealers” who illegally sell guns without background checks in states, requiring background checks. You know GOP cut ATF FFL inspection budgets? ATF can only inspect each FFL about once every 16 years Vs Greedy Oil Pig tax cuts = $60 B+ annually for Big Oil! Funny how Teaclowns never deride ‘leave no Koch Oil polluter behind’ totaling $8 T+ in Big Oil tax credits since GHWB’s 1988.
amongoose December 14th, 2014 at 09:58
Brady bill handguns sales required checks on all sales, it was expanded to include long guns.
The seller may ship without a background check, but the FFL dealer it must be shipped to (mailorder gun purchases were outlawed in 1968), must perform the check by federal law.
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(1) IN GENERAL- Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:
Federally licensed firearms importers, manufacturers, and dealers must comply with the Brady law prior to the transfer of any firearm to a non-licensed individual.
[18 U.S.C. 922(t), 27 CFR 478.102 ]
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/general-information/fact-sheet
Those states you refereed to as not requiring them are point of contact states. Those states allow online sales, but background checks still have to be made at transfer by the FFL dealer they must be by federal law shipped to.
http://fbinicsystem.com/brady-background-check/brady-act-and-nics.html
`(s)(1) Beginning on the date that is 90 days after the date of enactment of this subsection and ending on the day before the date that is 60 months after such date of enactment, it shall be unlawful for any licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to sell, deliver, or transfer a handgun to an individual who is not licensed under section 923
Should background checks be required for sales, yes I think so.
The problem I have with it is the way the law, especially Oregon’s was written. It did not say sale, but transfer. This has been interpreted to mean even the loan of a weapon by friends at a range, hunting, or to your children is illegal. There is even a museum there that is having to return weapons on display in a WW2 exibit because the loaning by the owners to the museum violated the law.
Do I think that the mentally unstable should not have guns, absolutely.
But … once again it is how it is done, so long as there is judicial review and the person having to forfeit their rights is afforded an opportunity to present their case in front of a judge fine. But by bureaucratic decision, no,
And please, if you’ll not rant about the Koch bothers I won’t about Soros. Interested in the view from your prospective.
And I hate both heads of the snake, am basically a libertarian, but even they piss me off as well.
Question for you that I also asked oldlefty, do you believe that Americans should be allowed to own firearms, and should the types be restricted and why.
Obewon December 14th, 2014 at 16:38
Why do just 16 states require Background checks today on handgun sales? “->16 states and Washington, D.C., already (require Background checks) for all handgun sales. In these states. ”
A: the NRA supports and arms terrorists by negating background checks and other gun laws that “Rearm Convicted Felons” at the state level!
Everyone knows federal law also prohibits Felons from owning guns & ammo too! But the NRA rearms these domestic terrorists in many states.
amongoose December 14th, 2014 at 17:42
What laws are those?
.
If you are referring to the initiatives such as those in NC, Ohio, and Ky. to allow released felons who have served their time to petition to have both gun ownership rights and voting rights restored why is that a problem?
Or is it once a felon always a felon?
Obewon December 14th, 2014 at 18:56
Lol. D’oh! “How the NRA Works to Rearm Criminals” including Felons convicted of murder and manslaughter. https://www.vpc.org/studies/felons.htm
Next-up: Open Carry Tarrant County and Open Carry Texas want guns in prison for double-homicide murdering member.
amongoose December 14th, 2014 at 20:24
So anyone committing a felony should lose their right to own a firearm permanently?
If there is no chance of someone convicted of a crime of ever being able to in essence become a full citizen again why what would be their incentive to want to change their lives?
In my opinion a second firearms offense, especially one resulting in harm, they should never be allowed out again, but that’s just my opinion. Recidivism of released criminals accounts for most crimes. But permanent incarceration is another can of worms.
A gun allowed in a prison for a felon?
Please explain that one. Googling it showed an open carry advocate being arrested, but no mention of anyone trying to obtain permission for a felon in prison to have a gun. That would be in violation of a lot of state and federal laws.
Open carry, I think is silly, it is easier to disarm them. Prefer concealed carry as the bad guys don’t know who is armed.
A survey of prisoners showed that over half were did not do home invasions of occupied dwellings due to someone at home might have a gun.
Obewon December 14th, 2014 at 21:03
Felons can’t vote either. But hey you could’ve petitioned Guber Jeb Bush personally on One day per year to be one of 180 brought before the FL gov for a pardon. Prerequisite is proof of your ‘biblical conversion, bible studies as evidence of your redemption.’ All others need not apply.
Felons forfeit their right to vote, or to possess guns just like any dishonorably discharged veterans, those under judicial restraining orders, adjudicated mental defectives, those on DHS, FBI or ATF watchlists, or non-citizens. None of whom can legally possess guns or ammo, just like convicted felons!
amongoose December 14th, 2014 at 21:31
So are you saying they should never have a chance to have their rights restored?
And actually non citizens here legally can by recent court decision posses firearms.
Obewon December 14th, 2014 at 21:40
Do you know what a pardon is? Hint Cheney’s Chief of Staff Scooter Libby never got a pardon, and is also barred from VOTING or guns & ammo too!
Felons could have “petitioned Guber Jeb Bush personally on One day per year to be one of 180 brought before the FL gov for a pardon.”
Where is your link? Citing a Federal court ruling, or SCOTUS decision ”Overturning” Federal laws against “non citizens” (possible insurgent legal residents) owning guns in the USA!
amongoose December 14th, 2014 at 21:55
http://www.guns.com/2014/09/24/hawaii-judge-rules-aliens-can-apply-for-gun-permits/
http://www.guns.com/2013/10/26/federal-judge-ruling-legal-non-citizens-can-obtain-nebraska-concealed-carry-permit/
There, answered your question, now please answer mine.
Should a convicted felon ever be allowed to have his rights removed from conviction restored?
Obewon December 14th, 2014 at 22:19
Do you have a reputable Pulitzer Prize winning source? E.g. Reuters, NYT, WaPo, LA Times. Guns.bozos isn’t even close to reputable or accurate: ” “Ironically,” Gottlieb explained (dead links to) http://saf.org/viewpr-new.asp?id=431 “-404 no working Link.
How many times do you need to be told a pardon restores both VOTING and gun rights? Felons forfeited those rights unless pardoned.
amongoose December 14th, 2014 at 22:30
http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Fotoudis-v-City-and-County-of-Honolulu-gunscom.pdf
Case 1:14-cv-00333-JMS-RLP Document 37 Filed 09/17/14 Page 1 of 18 PageID #: 229
Could say the same about your sources, that everytown study counted 3 accidental discharges, 19 gang related and after school shootings, and 6 suicides in their totals of school shootings.
One more time, please answer.
Should felons upon completion of sentence be allowed to petition for return of their rights?
Obewon December 14th, 2014 at 23:14
I Answered 3+ times: Felons can’t have guns, nor can they opencarry in Krogers while buying diapers for paranoids to soil.
If you are not a citizen you cannot own a firearm unless permanently immigrating into the U.S. or in possession of a hunting license legally issued in the U.S. Also you must have been a resident of your state for at least 90 days. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/browse/collectiontab.action You cited Reagan & GHWB’s Brady Bill! Guns are Prohibited from teabaggers in these categories. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States#Prohibited_persons Relish the Obama Admins increasing gun rights for gun nuts. so that you can now be shot inside National Parks.
amongoose December 15th, 2014 at 00:03
That’s what the decision said permanent legal alien residents.
And no you never answered whether you thought they deserved a second chance.
Been interesting trying to have a conversation with you.
have a nice day.
Bye.
Obewon December 15th, 2014 at 00:42
Nobody intelligent gives a convicted murderer and manslaughter a Gun or Ammo unless they’ve been pardoned.
That’s why the NRA stupidly advocates for a murderers gunshot air rights through your head, by an already convicted killer
And according you & gunclowns.com a judge ruled on the decades ago enacted “Brady bill” that long ago enabled permanent U.S. residents to buy guns & ammo. Funny how you and your source were too uninformed to mention those Brady Bill facts remaining the same, since the 1980’s. Non-U.S. Citizens who aren’t permanent residents on their way to citizenship, still can’t buy guns is true.
whatthe46 December 15th, 2014 at 01:17
you’re right. no one intelligent would. however, this jackass, outgoing Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour did. all murderers. he gave them full pardons. one such disturbing murder was that of Gatlin. he walked into the trailer where his estranged wife, Tammy Ellis Gatlin, lived and shot her in the head. The woman’s friend, Randy Walker, survived a gunshot to the head.
runner_runner December 13th, 2014 at 16:39
Except, wasn’t this lady supposed to be, “a good guy/girl with a gun”? Hmmmmm.
noprops December 12th, 2014 at 13:45
Yep, seems to be something about these open carry gun nuts that really sets them aside from the normal gun owner and user ….
noprops December 12th, 2014 at 14:45
Yep, seems to be something about these open carry gun nuts that really sets them aside from the normal gun owner and user ….
ted December 13th, 2014 at 22:46
As usual, guns don’t kill people, WHACK JOB IDIOTS WITH GUNS KILL PEOPLE!
ted December 13th, 2014 at 23:46
As usual, guns don’t kill people, WHACK JOB IDIOTS WITH GUNS KILL PEOPLE!
jsutton December 14th, 2014 at 00:18
She needed to express herself – unfortunately a gun was handy.
jsutton December 14th, 2014 at 01:18
She needed to express herself – unfortunately a gun was handy.
charles johnston December 14th, 2014 at 11:45
The tone of the article is clear. “C.J. Grisham, leader of Open Carry Texas, will surely deny that she was a member of his extremist group of gun toting miscreants, but there are screen shots which have circulated which will counter any denials by him and I’ll be happy to tweet them out, because I’m nice like that.”
Wording like that does not convey news, only opinion.