New Data: Those Who Have Obamacare Are Happy With It
New survey data from Gallup:
In a recent survey, the people who are actually using Obamacare gave it very high marks: 74 percent said the quality of health care they received was good or excellent, and 71 percent said the overall coverage was good or excellent. What’s remarkable is that these numbers are nearly the same as those for everyone else with health insurance, which includes those with either employer coverage or Medicare.
Are Republicans seriously ready to take care away from people who are happy with it?
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By: Stuart Shapiro
Stuart is a professor and the Director of the Public Policy
program at the Bloustein School of Planning and Public Policy at Rutgers
University. He teaches economics and cost-benefit analysis and studies
regulation in the United States at both the federal and state levels.
Prior to coming to Rutgers, Stuart worked for five years at the Office
of Management and Budget in Washington under Presidents Clinton and
George W. Bush.
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tiredoftea November 14th, 2014 at 15:43
Since the delivery mechanisms are the same, why is this a surprise?
tiredoftea November 14th, 2014 at 16:43
Since the delivery mechanisms are the same, why is this a surprise?
tracey marie November 14th, 2014 at 16:14
Everyone knows this, the right denies it because …Obama
tracey marie November 14th, 2014 at 17:14
Everyone knows this, the right denies it because …Obama
Red Eye Robot November 14th, 2014 at 16:43
Headline: PEOPLE WHO GET FREE STUFF LIKE IT!
Other breaking news: Kids think Candy is good for them and homework is bad
Cheap wine is popular with bums, Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead
OldLefty November 14th, 2014 at 17:01
Headline: PEOPLE WHO GET FREE STUFF LIKE IT!
_______
That’s what we keep telling you about the corporate welfare queens.
But buying insurance on the exchange is not free stuff.
And my husband and I do not have insurance from the exchange, ( the employer (also the major provider), provides THEIR own plan, and you have no choice, and I love the ACA.
But then, we work in healthcare with blue collar workers who do need it.
Red Eye Robot November 15th, 2014 at 05:30
Corporate welfare queens? Like Solyndra? A123? Fisker? who all got Obama Bucks and went out of business? Or were you thinking more like Delphi who got $1.7 billion dollars from Obama to move to europe and avoid $100 million a year in US taxes?
OldLefty November 15th, 2014 at 07:11
Like the Solyndra that is expected to make taxpayers a $5 to $6 billion return, Bloomberg Businessweek reported on Wednesday?
More like Romney’s Solyndra, Konarka Technologies, Exxon Mobile, Custard Battles, Blackwater, Halliburton, CaCi….
Look into the Delphi issue a little more closely.
Hint; it involves parts necessary for American auto makers, and gaps in a Congressional ban on contracts with inverted companies, that Congress refuses to close.
The Obama administration is trying to rescind the tax
benefits of the Delphi deal.In June, the IRS told Delphi that the 2009 address
change should be disregarded for tax purposes, and that Delphi must pay taxes
as a U.S. company.
So, Yes, yes I DO mean companies like that.
Red Eye Robot November 15th, 2014 at 19:46
Solyndras loans were discharged in bankruptcy court and it’s assets were liquidated. the 3 companies I cited have cost the govt a billion dollars all ready. Pro Tip: You might want to try actually reading the article the Bloobmerg article cites a “single anonymous source” who says the loan guarantee “MAY” earn taxpayers 5 to 6 billion. As for government projections
“These two entities–Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—are not facing any kind of financial crisis.” Barney Frank [ 9/11/2003 ]
“Fannie and Freddie are fundamentally sound, they are not in danger of going under—-I do think their prospects of going forward are very solid.” — Barney Frank [ 7/14/2008 ]
Wan’t more? Medicare part b was projected to cost $500,000,000 a year by 2014, it was 163 BILLION in 2013.
Steven Chu projected 60,000 jobs would be created by the DOE’s clean energy loan program. Half of the $38 billion has been spent and it has created 3500 jobs Not bad! $5.5 million per job!
OldLefty November 15th, 2014 at 20:38
The U.S. government expects to earn $5 billion to $6 billion from the renewable-energy loan program that funded flops including Solyndra LLC, supporting President Barack Obama’s decision to back low-carbon technologies.
The Department of Energy has disbursed about half of $32.4 billion allocated to spur innovation, and the expected return will be detailed in a report due to be released as soon as tomorrow, according to an official who helped put together the data.
The results contradict the widely held view that the U.S. has wasted taxpayer money funding failures including Solyndra, which closed its doors in 2011 after receiving $528 million in government backing. That adds to Obama’s credibility as he seeks to make climate change a bigger priority after announcing a historic emissions deal with China.
Also;
Remember Solyndra? Those loans are making money
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/11/13/wonkbook-
(I notice you ignore Romney’s “Solyndra.
Who do you think funds most new technology?
Banting and Best; funded by the Canadian government; manufacturing insulin, AZT was developed via government funding, The early, expensive research was conducted with government money. After the drug was found to be effective, marketing rights went to the drug company.
Laparoscopic gallbladder removal was pioneered in Canada as was treatment for juvenile diabetes by transplanting pancreatic cells.
The CT scan was invented under England’s NHS. The treatment for juvenile diabetes by transplanting pancreatic cells was developed in Canada.MRI, Dynamic light scattering in ophthalmology, GPS, NASTRAN,(chemical plants, refineries and trains to
next-generation fighter aircraft, cars, acoustic speakers, electric guitars
and skyscrapers. The software generates over $1 billion of revenue annually and
affects hundreds of billions of dollars worth of consumer products. optimizing
plant growth facilities for flight,), Microelectromechanical systems, mammography,
ARPANET, the internet, and most drug innovations are funded by universities,
CDC and NIH.
At the time people called Silicon Valley Uncle Sam’s most successful start-up:
At one point, the institutions of the Valley were so totally in the pocket of the Department of Defense that Stanford became essentially a research lab for the CIA. A number of engineering Ph. D. theses were actually classified. The largest employer at the time—and still the third largest for-profit employer in the valley is not Google, and
certainly not Facebook. It’s Lockheed Martin.
Before there was was Silicon Valley, there was Microwave Valley, which specialized in electronic intelligence—spying on Soviets air defenses, basically—and the seed capital for it came exclusively from the CIA and military. Private capital arrived much later.
http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/advisor/silicon-valleys-inconvenient-history-150653904.html
Sometimes there are losses, which is why the private sector doesn’t take the risk.
Fannie and Freddy were never the problem, (they have their OWN problems but that wasn’t it.)
Fannie and Freddie did not start making a big move into riskier mortgages until the mortgage boom was well under way. Even then, they were more cautious than the investment banks: just over 15 percent of borrowers with Fannie and Freddie-backed loans made in 2007 have been seriously delinquent, compared to nearly 42 percent of Wall Street-financed mortgages, according to the Federal Housing Finance Agency.
Virtually none of the $1.5 trillion of cratering subprime mortgages were backed by Fannie or Freddie. Most subprime mortgages did not meet Fannie or Freddie’s lending standards. All those no money down, no interest for a year, low teaser rate
loans, and the loans made without checking a borrower’s income or employment history were all made in the private sector, without any support from Fannie and Freddie.
While the credit bubble was peaking from 2003 to 2006, the amount of loans originated by Fannie and Freddie dropped from $2.7 trillion to $1 trillion. Meanwhile, in the private sector, the amount of subprime loans originated jumped to $600 billion from $335 billion and Alt-A loans hit $400 billion from $85 billion in 2003.
Know who sent up a red flag?
ACORN helped sponsor anti-predatory lending laws in Oakland and a few other cities around the nation to greatly curtail the subprime market:
Oakland’s ordinance, which was written by officials in the office of City Attorney John
Russo and unanimously approved by the City Council in October 2001, was way
ahead of its time.
The law would have prohibited subprime mortgage lenders from making a loan unless the borrower could afford it and had obtained a written certification from an independent credit counselor stating that the borrower had received financial advice, which was overturned in the Supreme Court of California: AMERICAN FINANCIAL SERVICES ) ASSOCIATION, v CITY OF OAKLAND et al.
American Financial Services, is a trade association representing lenders,
“Here’s some great news for retirees on fixed budgets that are often stretched by medical expenses. Monthly premiums for Medicare Part B and the related deductible for 2015 will remain the same as in 2013 and 2014”
Thanks to slower health care cost growth within Medicare since the passage of the Affordable Care Act, next year’s Medicare Part B monthly premium will remain unchanged for the second consecutive year.
Obamacare Helps Add Life to Medicare as Shortfall Delayed
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-28/medicare-s-financial-condition-improves-on-reduced-costs.html
Green Jobs Growing Much Faster Than All Other Jobs
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 6:30 pm by JM Ashby
According to the Los Angeles Times, a study released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics yesterday showed that green jobs grew far faster than every other sector of employment in 2011, including healthcare.
The nation had about 3.4 million green energy jobs in 2011, the Bureau of Labor
Statistics said Tuesday in its second annual and final look at this emerging
category of employment. (More on why it’s the last report later.)
In all, so-called green jobs accounted for just 2.6% of all employment that year, but a
comparison with 2010 data shows that these jobs grew at four times the rate of
all the others combined. Green employment jumped 4.9% in 2011 from the prior
year. That compares with a gain of 1.2% for all jobs and 2.7% for restaurants,
1.7% for manufacturing and 1.8% for healthcare, which is often seen as the
fastest-growing sector.
Wayout November 17th, 2014 at 21:57
Still drinking the Kool-Aid and believing in the con I see.
OldLefty November 17th, 2014 at 22:14
You mean the news?
Obewon November 15th, 2014 at 21:01
DOE Renewable Energy Loan Program Has Created 20,000 Jobs-2013. The DOE $100 B Loan Guarantee Program was started in 2005 under the Bush Administration, but ramped up thanks to the 2009 stimulus passed by President Obama and the Democrats. The congressionally created loan fund includes a $9.5 B Surplus reserve against losses of $10 B set aside for loss reserves. http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/09/doe-renewable-energy-loan-program-has-created-20000-jobs-way-beyond-solyndra/ “3500 jobs”-RedEye Radio unanimously Debunked again!
Obewon November 15th, 2014 at 23:30
Mortgage bailout now profitable for taxpayers:
U.S. taxpayers have recouped all of the $187 billion they gave mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in one of the most expensive bailouts of the financial crisis. http://money.cnn.com/2014/02/21/news/economy/fannie-profit-bailout/ RedEye Radio doesn’t seem to be very accurate and remains unilaterally debunked.
Sparafucile November 15th, 2014 at 14:44
Deflect deflect deflect. You got called out. Try to keep on topic, or admit you’ve lost.
mea_mark November 14th, 2014 at 17:21
And you still don’t know what you are talking about.
Roctuna November 14th, 2014 at 17:50
Really, where do you get the idea that insurance is free? Even the poorest that are getting subsidies, pay something. Isn’t that the skin in the game the right is always demanding of the poors?
Red Eye Robot November 15th, 2014 at 05:23
Where do I get theses ideas? Gruber. People paying $10 a month for a policy someone else is paying $350 for sure sounds like skin in the game
Roctuna November 15th, 2014 at 12:50
So you’d prefer the poorest have no insurance and rely in ER’s where the same taxpayers subsidize their care at several times, if not hundreds of times $350? That’s not cost-effective or humane IMO.
Red Eye Robot November 15th, 2014 at 18:59
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014/01/02/259128081/medicaid-expansion-boosted-emergency-room-visits-in-oregon
“Medicaid coverage increases emergency department use, both overall and for a broad range of types of visits, conditions, and subpopulations,” says Amy Finkelstein, an economics professor at MIT and one of the authors of the study. “Including visits for conditions that may be most readily treatable in primary care settings.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/02/obamacare-has-a-new-problem-it-won-t-fix-emergency-rooms.html “New research, however, finds that extending health care to low-income individuals actually increases their emergency room visits—with no discernible improvement in their health.”
Roctuna November 15th, 2014 at 20:26
It seems the relationship is not that clear-cut as evidenced from other studies mentioned in the same two articles.
“The Oregon experiment is only the most recent in a mixed body of research looking for a link between expanded health care and emergency room utilization.An earlier study from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation found no change in ER usage after the 1997 enactment of the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), the last major insurance expansion.
Other studies showed the rate of emergency room visits was either reduced or unchanged after near-universal health care was adopted in Massachusetts in 2004.”
However if the trend holds up, it sounds like an education issue to me. People who never had primary care need to learn how to best use a new system.
Anomaly 100 November 14th, 2014 at 17:52
You’re really not helping your side of the argument. Please proceed.
StoneyCurtisll November 14th, 2014 at 18:41
Ignorance seems to be your forte…
I see nothing more in your comments here..
Tim Coolio November 14th, 2014 at 21:56
Greedy rich robber-barrons who get free tax cut stuff from their sugar-daddy republican friends seem to like it!
Red Eye Robot November 15th, 2014 at 04:54
Free Tax cut stuff?
Tim Coolio November 15th, 2014 at 11:23
More tax cut money to ones who “already” have enough money,
Red Eye Robot November 15th, 2014 at 18:54
Government can give you something you earned? interesting concept.
Tim Coolio November 15th, 2014 at 20:15
Record profit oil companies DO NOT need more tax cuts and CEOs do not need to make thousands of times what the workers make.
Tommy6860 November 14th, 2014 at 22:12
Acting as if your banal mundane retort somehow makes a point about the healthcare law, is telling to the ability of wing-nuts to engage in discourse and be on topic about it. Here’s a newflash for you who gets their info from WND, InfoWars and Fox News; Healthcare isn’t free, it is given through private insurance companies and the people still pay for it.
Oh by the way, even if kids want candy, it still costs money.
Red Eye Robot November 14th, 2014 at 17:43
Headline: PEOPLE WHO GET FREE STUFF LIKE IT!
Other breaking news: Kids think Candy is good for them and homework is bad
Cheap wine is popular with bums, Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead
OldLefty November 14th, 2014 at 18:01
Headline: PEOPLE WHO GET FREE STUFF LIKE IT!
_______
That’s what we keep telling you about the corporate welfare queens.
But buying insurance on the exchange is not free stuff.
And my husband and I do not have insurance from the exchange, ( the employer (also the major provider), provides THEIR own plan, and you have no choice, and I love the ACA.
But then, we work in healthcare with blue collar workers who do need it.
Red Eye Robot November 15th, 2014 at 06:30
Corporate welfare queens? Like Solyndra? A123? Fisker? who all got Obama Bucks and went out of business? Or were you thinking more like Delphi who got $1.7 billion dollars from Obama to move to europe and avoid $100 million a year in US taxes?
OldLefty November 15th, 2014 at 08:11
Like the Solyndra that is expected to make taxpayers a $5 to $6 billion return, Bloomberg Businessweek reported on Wednesday?
More like Romney’s Solyndra, Konarka Technologies, Exxon Mobile, Custard Battles, Blackwater, Halliburton, CaCi….
Look into the Delphi issue a little more closely.
Hint; it involves parts necessary for American auto makers, and gaps in a Congressional ban on contracts with inverted companies, that Congress refuses to close.
The Obama administration is trying to rescind the tax
benefits of the Delphi deal.In June, the IRS told Delphi that the 2009 address
change should be disregarded for tax purposes, and that Delphi must pay taxes
as a U.S. company.
So, Yes, yes I DO mean companies like that.
Red Eye Robot November 15th, 2014 at 20:46
Solyndras loans were discharged in bankruptcy court and it’s assets were liquidated. the 3 companies I cited have cost the govt a billion dollars all ready. Pro Tip: You might want to try actually reading the article the Bloobmerg article cites a “single anonymous source” who says the loan guarantee “MAY” earn taxpayers 5 to 6 billion. As for government projections
“These two entities–Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—are not facing any kind of financial crisis.” Barney Frank [ 9/11/2003 ]
“Fannie and Freddie are fundamentally sound, they are not in danger of going under—-I do think their prospects of going forward are very solid.” — Barney Frank [ 7/14/2008 ]
Wan’t more? Medicare part b was projected to cost $500,000,000 a year by 2014, it was 163 BILLION in 2013.
Steven Chu projected 60,000 jobs would be created by the DOE’s clean energy loan program. Half of the $38 billion has been spent and it has created 3500 jobs Not bad! $5.5 million per job!
OldLefty November 15th, 2014 at 21:38
The U.S. government expects to earn $5 billion to $6 billion from the renewable-energy loan program that funded flops including Solyndra LLC, supporting President Barack Obama’s decision to back low-carbon technologies.
The Department of Energy has disbursed about half of $32.4 billion allocated to spur innovation, and the expected return will be detailed in a report due to be released as soon as tomorrow, according to an official who helped put together the data.
The results contradict the widely held view that the U.S. has wasted taxpayer money funding failures including Solyndra, which closed its doors in 2011 after receiving $528 million in government backing. That adds to Obama’s credibility as he seeks to make climate change a bigger priority after announcing a historic emissions deal with China.
Also;
Remember Solyndra? Those loans are making money
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/11/13/wonkbook-
(I notice you ignore Romney’s “Solyndra.
Who do you think funds most new technology?
Banting and Best; funded by the Canadian government; manufacturing insulin, AZT was developed via government funding, The early, expensive research was conducted with government money. After the drug was found to be effective, marketing rights went to the drug company.
Laparoscopic gallbladder removal was pioneered in Canada as was treatment for juvenile diabetes by transplanting pancreatic cells.
The CT scan was invented under England’s NHS. The treatment for juvenile diabetes by transplanting pancreatic cells was developed in Canada.MRI, Dynamic light scattering in ophthalmology, GPS, NASTRAN,(chemical plants, refineries and trains to
next-generation fighter aircraft, cars, acoustic speakers, electric guitars
and skyscrapers. The software generates over $1 billion of revenue annually and
affects hundreds of billions of dollars worth of consumer products. optimizing
plant growth facilities for flight,), Microelectromechanical systems, mammography,
ARPANET, the internet, and most drug innovations are funded by universities,
CDC and NIH.
At the time people called Silicon Valley Uncle Sam’s most successful start-up:
At one point, the institutions of the Valley were so totally in the pocket of the Department of Defense that Stanford became essentially a research lab for the CIA. A number of engineering Ph. D. theses were actually classified. The largest employer at the time—and still the third largest for-profit employer in the valley is not Google, and
certainly not Facebook. It’s Lockheed Martin.
Before there was was Silicon Valley, there was Microwave Valley, which specialized in electronic intelligence—spying on Soviets air defenses, basically—and the seed capital for it came exclusively from the CIA and military. Private capital arrived much later.
http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/advisor/silicon-valleys-inconvenient-history-150653904.html
Sometimes there are losses, which is why the private sector doesn’t take the risk.
Fannie and Freddy were never the problem, (they have their OWN problems but that wasn’t it.)
Fannie and Freddie did not start making a big move into riskier mortgages until the mortgage boom was well under way. Even then, they were more cautious than the investment banks: just over 15 percent of borrowers with Fannie and Freddie-backed loans made in 2007 have been seriously delinquent, compared to nearly 42 percent of Wall Street-financed mortgages, according to the Federal Housing Finance Agency.
Virtually none of the $1.5 trillion of cratering subprime mortgages were backed by Fannie or Freddie. Most subprime mortgages did not meet Fannie or Freddie’s lending standards. All those no money down, no interest for a year, low teaser rate
loans, and the loans made without checking a borrower’s income or employment history were all made in the private sector, without any support from Fannie and Freddie.
While the credit bubble was peaking from 2003 to 2006, the amount of loans originated by Fannie and Freddie dropped from $2.7 trillion to $1 trillion. Meanwhile, in the private sector, the amount of subprime loans originated jumped to $600 billion from $335 billion and Alt-A loans hit $400 billion from $85 billion in 2003.
Know who sent up a red flag?
ACORN helped sponsor anti-predatory lending laws in Oakland and a few other cities around the nation to greatly curtail the subprime market:
Oakland’s ordinance, which was written by officials in the office of City Attorney John
Russo and unanimously approved by the City Council in October 2001, was way
ahead of its time.
The law would have prohibited subprime mortgage lenders from making a loan unless the borrower could afford it and had obtained a written certification from an independent credit counselor stating that the borrower had received financial advice, which was overturned in the Supreme Court of California: AMERICAN FINANCIAL SERVICES ) ASSOCIATION, v CITY OF OAKLAND et al.
American Financial Services, is a trade association representing lenders,
“Here’s some great news for retirees on fixed budgets that are often stretched by medical expenses. Monthly premiums for Medicare Part B and the related deductible for 2015 will remain the same as in 2013 and 2014”
Thanks to slower health care cost growth within Medicare since the passage of the Affordable Care Act, next year’s Medicare Part B monthly premium will remain unchanged for the second consecutive year.
Obamacare Helps Add Life to Medicare as Shortfall Delayed
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-28/medicare-s-financial-condition-improves-on-reduced-costs.html
Green Jobs Growing Much Faster Than All Other Jobs
Posted on March 20, 2013 at 6:30 pm by JM Ashby
According to the Los Angeles Times, a study released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics yesterday showed that green jobs grew far faster than every other sector of employment in 2011, including healthcare.
The nation had about 3.4 million green energy jobs in 2011, the Bureau of Labor
Statistics said Tuesday in its second annual and final look at this emerging
category of employment. (More on why it’s the last report later.)
In all, so-called green jobs accounted for just 2.6% of all employment that year, but a
comparison with 2010 data shows that these jobs grew at four times the rate of
all the others combined. Green employment jumped 4.9% in 2011 from the prior
year. That compares with a gain of 1.2% for all jobs and 2.7% for restaurants,
1.7% for manufacturing and 1.8% for healthcare, which is often seen as the
fastest-growing sector.
Wayout November 17th, 2014 at 22:57
Still drinking the Kool-Aid and believing in the con I see.
OldLefty November 17th, 2014 at 23:14
You mean the news?
Obewon November 15th, 2014 at 22:01
DOE’s Renewable Energy Loan Program Has Created 20,000 Jobs-2013. The DOE $100 B Loan Guarantee Program was started in 2005 under the Bush Administration, but ramped up thanks to the 2009 60% Jobs stimulus passed by President Obama and the Democrats. The congress created loan fund includes a remaining $9.5 B surplus Loss-Reserve, of $10 B set aside for loss reserves. “Lawmakers set aside $10 billion to cover any losses from $26 billion in loans.”-CNN 6/6/12 Debunking Romney is also “Private investors lost almost twice what the government did — nearly $1 B. While much has been made that the largest private investor was an Obama supporter, the second largest was a fund controlled by the Walton family — of Wal-Mart (WMT, Fortune 500) fame. Walton family members are noted Republican donors.”-CNN http://cleantechnica.com/2013/05/09/doe-renewable-energy-loan-program-has-created-20000-jobs-way-beyond-solyndra/ “3500 jobs”-RedEye Radio unanimously Debunked again by “20,000 Jobs.”
Furthermore Whose Baby Is Solyndra? the legislation creating the $100 B loan-guarantee program was approved by the Republican-controlled Congress in 2005, and received yes votes from — wait for it — DeMint, Hatch and McConnell! http://www.alan.com/2011/09/28/whose-baby-is-solyndra/
Obewon November 16th, 2014 at 00:30
Mortgage bailout now profitable for taxpayers:
U.S. taxpayers have recouped all of the $187 billion they gave mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in one of the most expensive bailouts of GWB’s 12/07-6/09 Great Recession financial crisis. http://money.cnn.com/2014/02/21/news/economy/fannie-profit-bailout/ RedEye Radio doesn’t seem to be very accurate and remains unilaterally debunked.
Sparafucile November 15th, 2014 at 15:44
Deflect deflect deflect. You got called out. Try to keep on topic, or admit you’ve lost.
mea_mark November 14th, 2014 at 18:21
And you still don’t know what you are talking about.
Roctuna November 14th, 2014 at 18:50
Really, where do you get the idea that insurance is free? Even the poorest that are getting subsidies, pay something. Isn’t that the skin in the game the right is always demanding of the poors?
Red Eye Robot November 15th, 2014 at 06:23
Where do I get theses ideas? Gruber. People paying $10 a month for a policy someone else is paying $350 for sure sounds like skin in the game
Roctuna November 15th, 2014 at 13:50
So you’d prefer the poorest have no insurance and rely in ER’s where the same taxpayers subsidize their care at several times, if not hundreds of times $350? That’s not cost-effective or humane IMO.
Red Eye Robot November 15th, 2014 at 19:59
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014/01/02/259128081/medicaid-expansion-boosted-emergency-room-visits-in-oregon
“Medicaid coverage increases emergency department use, both overall and for a broad range of types of visits, conditions, and subpopulations,” says Amy Finkelstein, an economics professor at MIT and one of the authors of the study. “Including visits for conditions that may be most readily treatable in primary care settings.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/02/obamacare-has-a-new-problem-it-won-t-fix-emergency-rooms.html “New research, however, finds that extending health care to low-income individuals actually increases their emergency room visits—with no discernible improvement in their health.”
Roctuna November 15th, 2014 at 21:26
It seems the relationship is not that clear-cut as evidenced from other studies mentioned in the same two articles.
“The Oregon experiment is only the most recent in a mixed body of research looking for a link between expanded health care and emergency room utilization.An earlier study from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation found no change in ER usage after the 1997 enactment of the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), the last major insurance expansion.
Other studies showed the rate of emergency room visits was either reduced or unchanged after near-universal health care was adopted in Massachusetts in 2004.”
However if the trend holds up, it sounds like an education issue to me. People who never had primary care need to learn how to best use a new system.
Anomaly 100 November 14th, 2014 at 18:52
You’re really not helping your side of the argument. Please proceed.
StoneyCurtisll November 14th, 2014 at 19:41
Ignorance seems to be your forte…
I see nothing more in your comments here..
Tim Coolio November 14th, 2014 at 22:56
Greedy rich robber-barrons who get free tax cut stuff from their sugar-daddy republican friends seem to like it!
Red Eye Robot November 15th, 2014 at 05:54
Free Tax cut stuff?
Tim Coolio November 15th, 2014 at 12:23
More tax cut money to ones who “already” have enough money,
Red Eye Robot November 15th, 2014 at 19:54
Government can give you something you earned? interesting concept.
Tim Coolio November 15th, 2014 at 21:15
Record profit oil companies DO NOT need more tax cuts and CEOs do not need to make thousands of times what the workers make.
Tommy6860 November 14th, 2014 at 23:12
Acting as if your banal mundane retort somehow makes a point about the healthcare law, is telling to the ability of wing-nuts to engage in discourse and be on topic about it. Here’s a newflash for you who gets their info from WND, InfoWars and Fox News; Healthcare isn’t free, it is given through private insurance companies and the people still pay for it.
Oh by the way, even if kids want candy, it still costs money.
Obewon November 14th, 2014 at 21:22
74% of the 8 million buyers of ObamaCare received good or excellent HC vs 71% non-ACA buyers rating their HC similarly. This doesn’t include 20 Million state exchange HC buyers likely having similar or greater HC ratings for 28 million ACA HC winners in total!
Here are the estimated totals of all ACA HC buyers appx. 28 Million!
7.1M Exchange QHPs
8.0M Off-Exchange QHPs
11.0M Medicaid/CHIP, 2.0M assorted) http://acasignups.net/
Obewon November 14th, 2014 at 22:22
74% of the 8 million buyers of ObamaCare received good or excellent HC vs 71% non-ACA buyers rating their HC similarly. This doesn’t include 20 Million state exchange HC buyers likely having similar or greater HC ratings for 28 million ACA HC winners in total!
Here are the estimated totals of all ACA HC buyers appx. 28 Million:
7.1M Exchange QHPs
8.0M Off-Exchange QHPs
11.0M Medicaid/CHIP, 2.0M assorted. http://acasignups.net/
Tim Coolio November 14th, 2014 at 21:57
The ACA has woven into the fabric of American
culture and the republican dream of repealing
or unwinding it is fading, the ACA is joining
Social Security and Medicare as an unassailable
feature of the American safety net, next step is
single payer with affordable healthcare for all!
a public healthcare system and not one that is
privatized, the ACA is a great start toward
greater coverage for all Americans, we need
healthcare for people, not for profit.
Tim Coolio November 14th, 2014 at 22:57
The ACA has woven into the fabric of American
culture and the republican dream of repealing
or unwinding it is fading, the ACA is joining
Social Security and Medicare as an unassailable
feature of the American safety net, next step is
single payer with affordable healthcare for all!
a public healthcare system and not one that is
privatized, the ACA is a great start toward
greater coverage for all Americans, we need
healthcare for people, not for profit.
Tommy6860 November 14th, 2014 at 22:15
So, if the GOP somehow manages to dismantle the ACA, will they then say those who have policies through it, can keep them if they like them?
Tommy6860 November 14th, 2014 at 23:15
So, if the GOP somehow manages to dismantle the ACA, will they then say those who have policies through it, can keep them if they like them?
Wayout November 17th, 2014 at 21:54
Of course they are happy with it, they get taxpayer subsidies. It’s the rest of us schlubs who have to pay for someone else’s heath care that are not too enamored with it.
Hirightnow November 20th, 2014 at 14:44
Like you weren’t already doing that when they’d go to the ER.
Stealth Troll Fail.
Wayout November 17th, 2014 at 22:54
Of course they are happy with it, they get taxpayer subsidies. It’s the rest of us schlubs who have to pay for someone else’s heath care that are not too enamored with it.
Hirightnow November 20th, 2014 at 15:44
Like you weren’t already doing that when they’d go to the ER.
Stealth Troll Fail.