Jeb Bush Piles On Obama Over Ebola Response That Is Way Worse Than Bush’s Anthrax Response
Former Florida Governor and possible future Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush (R-Fla.) has joined the chorus of politicians jumping on the Ebola bandwagon, and trying to run President Obama over with it.
Even as controversy continues to swirl around quarantine orders issued by governors from both parties, and political and media figures demand travel restrictions, public health experts remain unanimous in their opposition to either measure. On Tuesday, Obama remained in the science camp, delivering a 10-minute update on the Ebola response that was heavy on thinly-veiled shots at measures like Governor Chris Christie’s imprisonment of a perfectly healthy nurse. Here’s a taste:
“When we have volunteers who are taking time out from their families, from their loved ones and so forth, to go over there because they have a very particular expertise to tackle a very difficult job, we want to make sure that when they come back that we are prudent, that we are making sure that they are not at risk themselves or at risk of spreading the disease, but we don’t want to do things that aren’t based on science and best practices. Because if we do, then we’re just putting another barrier on somebody who’s already doing really important work on our behalf.”
Also on Tuesday, Jeb Bush slammed President Obama’s response to the Ebola crisis, apparently because the President is simultaneously causing unnecessary fear, and failing to be fearful enough…READ MORE
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By: Tommy Christopher
Tommy Christopher is The Daily Banter's White House Correspondent and Political Analyst. He's been a political reporter and liberal commentator since 2007, and has covered the White House since the beginning of the Obama administration, first for PoliticsDaily, and then for Mediaite. Christopher is a frequent guest on a variety of television, radio, and online programs, and was the villain in the documentaries The Audacity of Democracy and Hating Breitbart. He's also That Guy Who Live-Tweeted His Own Heart Attack, and the only person to have ever received public apologies from both Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck.
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Red Eye Robot October 29th, 2014 at 14:27
Way to compare Apples to Oranges Tommy! From Health.ny.gov (first google entry) “Inhalation (lung) anthrax is not spread from person to person. Even if you develop symptoms of inhalation anthrax, you are not contagious to other persons. If you develop cutaneous (skin) anthrax, the drainage from an open sore presents a low risk of infection to others.”
Obewon October 29th, 2014 at 14:50
Lone US victim Duncan proved Ebola isn’t airborne. That’s why his wife who slept with Duncan during Ebola symptoms, and their entire family ended quarantine 10 days ago without any Ebola.
GOP Leader Limbaugh’s ex-wives number far greater than US Ebola deaths combined.
R.J. Carter October 29th, 2014 at 15:10
I think there’s some confusion about the term “airborne” when it comes to Ebola.
No, it doesn’t seem to float around out there and infect you willy nilly.
Yes, it is “airborne” in the way of an infected person near enough to you so that their cough sprays you, hence why medical workers wear protective masks.
It can also live on surfaces for up to three weeks, but that’s another story.
mrsgunka October 29th, 2014 at 16:59
Airborne is reference to the droplets from coughing and sneezing. Fluids are from vomitus and diarrhea or blood getting on you and there is any way to get into your system via the mouth, nose, eyes, vagina or rectum or a cut in your skin. Infectious Ebola patients, running a high fever (103+) also have these other symptoms and most of the vomiting is blood and the diarrhea has blood also and it can be projectile and get on a caretakers skin (Cuts or abrasions), face (mouth,, nose, eyes), or if their is any sexual contact (semen). The greatest danger might be from a needle used to start an IV or giving a shot and pricking your skin while trying to start an IV or sticking yourself with a used needle when trying to get the cap back on when done using it. It is very possible for a nurse or anyone in the vicinity to get hit with vomit or diarrhea while caring for a patient doing this. That is why they wear the haz-mat suits that are moisture proof. Their are different degrees of isolation technique with different diseases. Most hospitals don’t have the kind of haz-mat outfits that protect against Ebola. Since we had never had a case in this country that I am aware of, the “normal” protective gear would protect from it if they hadn’t gotten to the infectious state. Scientist working in a lab with these dangerous viruses do not have to dress like a nurse caring for a patient with it. They don’t get sprayed with vomit and diarrhea and work behind glass with special clothing.
burqa October 29th, 2014 at 23:56
How ’bout a wet fart?
R.J. Carter October 30th, 2014 at 08:53
I suppose if you’re in the line of fire…
Tommy6860 October 29th, 2014 at 16:36
So when do we quarantine the first person exposed to one who dies from the flu and all that was around them? You know, those flu viruses taht are truly spread while being airborne. 10s of thousands of people die from the flu every year, where’s that emergency? Even on a mush lesser scale, 4 people have died from the Enterovirus D68 with well over 500 confirmed cases, where’s the response? It is barely getting coverage compared to a total of 5 people with one death for the Ebola mass outbreak that doesn’t exist.
Once November 5 comes around, Ebola will not matter at all to the wingers, as long as they get their candidates elected fear mongering the simple minded, that’s really all that matters.
Red Eye Robot October 29th, 2014 at 19:11
when do we quarantine for influenza? When influenza has a 75% mortality rate. Millions get the flu every year and never even see a doctor. Next false analogy please
Tommy6860 October 29th, 2014 at 19:17
Not a false analogy, rather a logical progression to your Ebola hysteria.
OldLefty October 29th, 2014 at 19:25
From Doctors Without Borders;
Like all returned staff members, our colleague was fully informed about and aware of the nature of the virus and when it is and is not transmissible.
He knew to monitor himself rigorously,which he did, and he reported it immediately when he first felt feverish.
Before then, when he was asymptomatic, he was at most a negligible threat to others, not unlike the innumerable medical professionals who treat patients with highly infectious diseases—some far more infectious than Ebola—at medical
facilities throughout New York City and the United States.
http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/article/q-msf’s-ebola-response-and-protocols
But then, what do THEY know??
burqa October 29th, 2014 at 23:55
You’re stuck in numbers on paper and being argumentative about things that don’t matter and are ignoring actual dead people – tens of thousands every year.
You are more likely to die of a vending machine falling on you, even though they have far less than a 75% mortality rate for people using them.
You’re also more likely to get killed by a stray bullet fired by a gun owner….
burqa October 30th, 2014 at 00:06
Huh?
Anthrax not spread from person to person?
How did anthrax come up?
Something about Bush, who was president when it was spread from a person mailing it to people in a newspaper office in Florida and to Capitol Hill offices, – isn’t that how it came up in this conversation?
That was right after 9/11.
Then there was the fear whipped up under Bush when they were talking about a person spreading it to other people – Saddam Hussein, who had drones that were going to spray us with anthrax and small pox and poison gas unless we invaded, pronto!
Red Eye Robot October 29th, 2014 at 14:27
Way to compare Apples to Oranges Tommy! From Health.ny.gov (first google entry) “Inhalation (lung) anthrax is not spread from person to person. Even if you develop symptoms of inhalation anthrax, you are not contagious to other persons. If you develop cutaneous (skin) anthrax, the drainage from an open sore presents a low risk of infection to others.”
Obewon October 29th, 2014 at 14:50
Lone US victim Duncan proved Ebola isn’t airborne. That’s why his wife who slept with Duncan during his Ebola infection, and their entire family ended quarantine 10 days ago without ever contracting Ebola.
GOP Leader Limbaugh’s ex-wives number far greater than all US Ebola deaths combined.
R.J. Carter October 29th, 2014 at 15:10
I think there’s some confusion about the term “airborne” when it comes to Ebola.
No, it doesn’t seem to float around out there and infect you willy nilly.
Yes, it is “airborne” in the way of an infected person near enough to you so that their cough sprays you, hence why medical workers wear protective masks.
It can also live on surfaces for up to three weeks, but that’s another story.
mrsgunka October 29th, 2014 at 16:59
Airborne is reference to the droplets from coughing and sneezing. Fluids are from vomitus and diarrhea or blood getting on you and there is any way to get into your system via the mouth, nose, eyes, vagina or rectum or a cut in your skin. Infectious Ebola patients, running a high fever (103+) also have these other symptoms and most of the vomiting is blood and the diarrhea has blood also and it can be projectile and get on a caretakers skin (Cuts or abrasions), face (mouth,, nose, eyes), or if their is any sexual contact (semen). The greatest danger might be from a needle used to start an IV or giving a shot and pricking your skin while trying to start an IV or sticking yourself with a used needle when trying to get the cap back on when done using it. It is very possible for a nurse or anyone in the vicinity to get hit with vomit or diarrhea while caring for a patient doing this. That is why they wear the haz-mat suits that are moisture proof. Their are different degrees of isolation technique with different diseases. Most hospitals don’t have the kind of haz-mat outfits that protect against Ebola. Since we had never had a case in this country that I am aware of, the “normal” protective gear would protect from it if they hadn’t gotten to the infectious state. Scientist working in a lab with these dangerous viruses do not have to dress like a nurse caring for a patient with it. They don’t get sprayed with vomit and diarrhea and work behind glass with special clothing.
burqa October 29th, 2014 at 23:56
How ’bout a wet fart?
R.J. Carter October 30th, 2014 at 08:53
I suppose if you’re in the line of fire…
Tommy6860 October 29th, 2014 at 16:36
So when do we quarantine the first person exposed to one who dies from the flu and all that was around them? You know, those flu viruses that are truly spread while being airborne. 10s of thousands of people die from the flu every year, where’s that emergency? Even on a much lesser scale, 4 people have died from the Enterovirus D68 with well over 500 confirmed cases, where’s the response? It is barely getting coverage compared to a total of 5 people with one death for the Ebola mass outbreak that doesn’t exist.
Once November 5 comes around, Ebola will not matter at all to the wingers, as long as they get their candidates elected fear mongering the simple minded, that’s really all that matters.
Red Eye Robot October 29th, 2014 at 19:11
when do we quarantine for influenza? When influenza has a 75% mortality rate. Millions get the flu every year and never even see a doctor. Next false analogy please
Tommy6860 October 29th, 2014 at 19:17
Not a false analogy, rather a logical progression to your Ebola hysteria.
OldLefty October 29th, 2014 at 19:25
From Doctors Without Borders;
Like all returned staff members, our colleague was fully informed about and aware of the nature of the virus and when it is and is not transmissible.
He knew to monitor himself rigorously,which he did, and he reported it immediately when he first felt feverish.
Before then, when he was asymptomatic, he was at most a negligible threat to others, not unlike the innumerable medical professionals who treat patients with highly infectious diseases—some far more infectious than Ebola—at medical
facilities throughout New York City and the United States.
http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/article/q-msf’s-ebola-response-and-protocols
But then, what do THEY know??
burqa October 29th, 2014 at 23:55
You’re stuck in numbers on paper and being argumentative about things that don’t matter and are ignoring actual dead people – tens of thousands every year.
You are more likely to die of a vending machine falling on you, even though they have far less than a 75% mortality rate for people using them.
You’re also more likely to get killed by a stray bullet fired by a gun owner….
burqa October 30th, 2014 at 00:06
Huh?
Anthrax not spread from person to person?
How did anthrax come up?
Something about Bush, who was president when it was spread from a person mailing it to people in a newspaper office in Florida and to Capitol Hill offices, – isn’t that how it came up in this conversation?
That was right after 9/11.
Then there was the fear whipped up under Bush when they were talking about a person spreading it to other people – Saddam Hussein, who had drones that were going to spray us with anthrax and small pox and poison gas unless we invaded, pronto!
Obewon October 29th, 2014 at 15:00
GOP’s midterm Ebola strategy is a US “Landslide” epidemic that never materialized.
Jack E Raynbeau October 29th, 2014 at 17:46
At least one nut suggested that Obama would cancel the election due to ebola.
OldLefty October 29th, 2014 at 17:59
They have been saying that for decades. (just insert POTUS and crisis).
burqa October 30th, 2014 at 00:10
I need to hear what Glenn Beck and Alex Jones have to say about this….
Obewon October 29th, 2014 at 15:00
GOP’s midterm “Landslide” U.S. Ebola epidemic, never materialized.
Jack E Raynbeau October 29th, 2014 at 17:46
At least one nut suggested that Obama would cancel the election due to ebola.
OldLefty October 29th, 2014 at 17:59
They have been saying that for decades. (just insert POTUS and crisis).
burqa October 30th, 2014 at 00:10
I need to hear what Glenn Beck and Alex Jones have to say about this….
rg9rts October 29th, 2014 at 16:54
I think the entire nation has had their fill of the Bush family..
mrsgunka October 29th, 2014 at 17:05
If all they can come up with is another Bush, Cristy or Mit, they better just close the door and quit. Take the clown car with them.
rg9rts October 29th, 2014 at 16:54
I think the entire nation has had their fill of the Bush family..
mrsgunka October 29th, 2014 at 17:05
If all they can come up with is another Bush, Cristy or Mit, they better just close the door and quit. Take the clown car with them.
OldLefty October 29th, 2014 at 17:27
Q & A on MSF’s Ebola Response and
Protocols
Like all returned staff members, our
colleague was fully informed about and aware of the nature of the virus and
when it is and is not transmissible. He knew to monitor himself rigorously,
which he did, and he reported it immediately when he first felt feverish.
Before then, when he was asymptomatic, he was at most a negligible threat to
others, not unlike the innumerable medical professionals who treat patients
with highly infectious diseases—some far more infectious than Ebola—at medical
facilities throughout New York City and the United States.
When did nurse Kaci Hickox first report her symptoms?
She did not, because she did not and does not have any symptoms.
http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/article/q-msf’s-ebola-response-and-protocols
From the New England Journal of Medicine
Ebola and Quarantine
Jeffrey M. Drazen, M.D., Rupa
Kanapathipillai, M.B., B.S., M.P.H., D.T.M.&H., Edward W. Campion, M.D.,
Eric J. Rubin, M.D., Ph.D., Scott M. Hammer, M.D., Stephen Morrissey, Ph.D.,
and Lindsey R. Baden, M.D.
October 27,
2014DOI: 10.1056/NEJMe1413139
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe1413139
Although, those who know the least, blather the most.
OldLefty October 29th, 2014 at 17:27
Q & A on MSF’s Ebola Response and
Protocols
Like all returned staff members, our
colleague was fully informed about and aware of the nature of the virus and
when it is and is not transmissible. He knew to monitor himself rigorously,
which he did, and he reported it immediately when he first felt feverish.
Before then, when he was asymptomatic, he was at most a negligible threat to
others, not unlike the innumerable medical professionals who treat patients
with highly infectious diseases—some far more infectious than Ebola—at medical
facilities throughout New York City and the United States.
When did nurse Kaci Hickox first report her symptoms?
She did not, because she did not and does not have any symptoms.
http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/article/q-msf’s-ebola-response-and-protocols
From the New England Journal of Medicine
Ebola and Quarantine
Jeffrey M. Drazen, M.D., Rupa
Kanapathipillai, M.B., B.S., M.P.H., D.T.M.&H., Edward W. Campion, M.D.,
Eric J. Rubin, M.D., Ph.D., Scott M. Hammer, M.D., Stephen Morrissey, Ph.D.,
and Lindsey R. Baden, M.D.
October 27,
2014DOI: 10.1056/NEJMe1413139
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe1413139
Although, those who know the least, blather the most.
burqa October 29th, 2014 at 23:46
Bad idea making comparisons to his brother. I remember when Bush Jr. tried to get something like 300,000 health professionals vaccinated – just for starters – and only had a couple thousand sign up for it and when no one else went for the scheme, it went away and didn’t get brought back up……….kinda like when Bush was going to privatize Social Security and the more they talked about it the more people rejected it so that one faded away……….kinda like when Bush was going to keep the budget balanced, but the more they spent the less they talked about it …….
burqa October 29th, 2014 at 23:46
Bad idea making comparisons to his brother. I remember when Bush Jr. tried to get something like 300,000 health professionals vaccinated – just for starters – and only had a couple thousand sign up for it and when no one else went for the scheme, it went away and didn’t get brought back up……….kinda like when Bush was going to privatize Social Security and the more they talked about it the more people rejected it so that one faded away……….kinda like when Bush was going to keep the budget balanced, but the more they spent the less they talked about it …….