Bill Ayers: We’re A Terrorist Nation, John Kerry A ‘War Criminal’

Former University of Illinois professor and Weather Underground founder Bill Ayers spoke with me on radio Tuesday night about why he thinks the United States is a terrorist nation, John Kerry is a war criminal. We discussed what we should be doing about the Middle East, his history with the Weather Underground, and how children should be educated.

COLMES: Are we a terrorist nation?

AYERS: Yes indeed, and I’ve said many times, that terrorism, if you take a consistent definition of terrorism, and even Webster’s definition, that it’s absolutely true that governments, cults, sects, political parties, and individuals can all be terrorists. And the fact is, in the long history of warfare and terrorism, states have been the main purveyors of terrorism. So when you see the Soviet Union in Afghanistan and the Soviet Union in other areas…

In Yemen, in Syria, in Iraq, in Afghanistan. When we bomb civilians, when we, look, here’s the problem with patriotism and nationalism, when you see the same set of facts, and you make a moral distinction between if we do it and when someone else does it. So bombing civilians is wrong., and we should oppose the bombing of civilians, whether Israel does it or the US does it, or the Palestinians do it, we should oppose the bombing of civilians…

COLMES: When you look at John Kerry today, Secretary of State, going around saying the things that he’s saying, knowing that John Kerry stood before the Senate saying, “How do you ask a man the be the last man to die for a mistake? What do you think about what you are seeing right now?

AYERS: Oh the irony! I mean to me the thing that Kerry said in front of the Senate that still resonates, is that he said “We commit war crimes in Vietnam every day, not as a matter of choice but a matter of policy.” That was a very powerful statement coming from a young officer in the military. Today he is that war criminal. He is that one.

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