Images: How NRA Supporters React To Moms’ Gun Sense Group Over Open Carry At Kroger
After the NRA posted the following image on their Facebook page of a Kroger manager in Ohio refusing to accept a petition from Moms Demand Action to end open carrying firearms in stores, Bearingarms.com asserted that it’s a ‘basic human right” to carry long guns in a store where families shop with their children.
Ironically and hypocritically, in another post, the site’s author states, “Open carry announces to the world that you are armed. That makes you a primary target in almost any conceivable situation.”
The following are NRA supporters who left messages on the Moms Demand Action Facebook page.
Kangaroo Kevin, an alleged human, writes that he supports Kroger and opposes gay marriage while suggesting that the gun sense group fucks trees and licks dogs.
Donald Donnie Foerch Jr, writes, “God bless Croger.” [sic]
Ricky Walker just wants people to “see” his guns. Ricky has two guns. He’s super-duper-tough and he totally does not look like a gangsta.
Eric supports Kroger. I can tell because he types that thought repeatedly.
Chris Bruster openly carries a firearm because of ‘evil’ people in our country, all of whom he obviously believes meet up at Kroger.
Bill is “rockin out” with his Glock, because clearly that’s why the Second Amendment was created.
People that defend the NRA by keeping their memberships intact, aren’t paying attention. The aforementioned people made their plans clear: They will openly carry guns into Kroger locations across the country with no regard for families who shop there with their children.
A favorite bit of rhetoric from Open Carry activists is that a gun is simply an inanimate object. While that’s true, the people with their hands on the trigger don’t look like ‘good guys with a gun.’
Are these the folks Kroger should be “trusting to be responsible with their guns in stores” as per their statement? You be the judge. As for me, I’ve been spending my delicious dollars elsewhere — until a gun policy is implemented.
Big thanks to my tipster whose anonymity shall be respected here.
All images obtained on social media, thereby making them fair use.
Copyright 2014 Liberaland
By: Anomaly100
Clarence LeBlanc October 9th, 2014 at 13:23
300 000 Americans will be shot dead in the next 10 years. Every other western society watches the same movies and watches the same video games and have a fraction of the deaths…the only difference is gun laws. The math is simple: for example using the “what stops a bad person with a gun good person with gun theory” if we armed 2 million teachers would this stop a killer form going off on a rampage killing 10 students…maybe…lets even say yes. So those two million guns go to school everyday and everyday 2 million teachers have to make countless decisions each day regarding that gun along with the family members in that household. Those 2 million guns will easily cause 100 deaths due simply to human error and if you add in human malice…we would add many more. But yes…maybe the next high school killer might be stopped…or he might start by grabbing the teachers gun. More guns…more death. Simple math.
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 13:29
Since concealed carry laws have been passed gun violence is down. If you compare to a country like England, they have ALWAYS had a much lower murder rate that America, long before there was gun control in either country. Since they have basically banned guns, their gun crime rates, including murder rate have gone UP, while our continues to go down. Simple math.
steven_lockwood October 9th, 2014 at 13:40
and where do you get those “numbers” from?? I just love magic numbers pulled from thin air…
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 13:42
They aren’t hard to find, start with Google.
steven_lockwood October 9th, 2014 at 13:53
ummm, yeah.. so then the nra gun humper page directly… as opposed to a university study to link to..
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 14:01
I found these numbers in many places, if you are so inclined, go look for yourself, I’m just expressing my opinion, feel free to not believe me, disagree, whatever. Notice I didn’t quote the exact numbers, just the trends. I read them several months ago, I don’t have the time or desire to go find them again for you. If you are interested, feel free to find them yourself, I’m sure you can. And no, it wasn’t the NRA or other gun advocacy website. I have a master’s degree in engineering, I can tell when someone is trying to sell me a number.
meconiummm October 9th, 2014 at 15:44
Wow, quite the coward :) Are you holding your gun now?
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 15:51
Of course. Shooting in the air wildly next to an elementary school. Yippie ki-yay mother !@#$%er.
Brent Slensker October 9th, 2014 at 13:58
The idea that Britain has become some sort of crime cesspool is a BIG fabrication/lie.
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 14:04
I didn’t say that, but their crime rate has still gone up. It is still very low. Their murder rate is sub 1 per 100,000, I don’t have the number right in front of me. It used to even lower, something in the ballpark of 0.2 per 100,000.
Nicolai Matz October 9th, 2014 at 14:29
The Western European countries are all hovering between 0.4 and 1.2, with a few exceptions (Finland has a very lax gun law and has about 3 times the Murder Rate of the rest of the Scandinavian Countries).
It has been like that for decades.
And since drugs and crises in the western world is about the same, Western Europe experienced the muder spike during the crack epidemic of the 1990’s as well – and also a drop since then.
The problem is that the US. is more or less always having about 400% as high a Murder Rate as the Western European countries (who all have Gun Control)
Gun Control works – and that’s is why the NRA fears it !!
GabeZ October 9th, 2014 at 17:09
“Simple math” does not usually accurately describe complex issues. Correlation does not equal causation. The idea of more guns = less crime is largely attributed to the work of John Lott. However, since then there has been additional study to counter his findings. There isn’t enough data to suggest that there is a causal link. Check the work from John J. Donohue III and Ian Ayres.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 18:48
Nope, not true. Violence, of all types was declining long before the latest relaxing of gun laws.
Teddy Simon October 9th, 2014 at 14:57
Says the internet badass , or should I say IDIOT
meconiummm October 9th, 2014 at 15:43
“the only difference is gun laws” well that’s one difference. Notice how many think they are doing gods will.
mea_mark October 9th, 2014 at 15:45
If you want to be banned make another comment like this and you will be, your choice, because it is a free country of course.
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 13:27
This article just likes to judge people by how they look. I can respect a business for not wanting too allow open carry, the problem I have with MDA is their position on concealed carry, which makes everyone safer (which is never blatantly stated on their website, but can be inferred from their “accomplishments” they list). And the BS line they keep putting in about without regard for families and children…. How is seeing a gun bad for families and children, doesn’t make any sense.
Hannah Allyse McGary October 9th, 2014 at 13:51
Well I don’t think the article is merely judging based on aesthetic, but also words. Like that first person; that person’s words were extremely rude and malevolent. And then the bozo in the photo with the 2 semis pointed toward the camera with fingers on the triggers is disobeying one of the cardinal rules of gun safety. So is the guy with the little girl; if you’re treating a gun like it is always loaded, you would never hold a child that close to the firearm like that with no safety equipment whatsoever.
I don’t think SEEING a firearm is bad, but I think giving the impression that firearms are needed in a grocery to our most impressionable is misleading and providing an unnecessary fear. Another rule of gun ownership is that you take it where it is needed, you only hold it when it is needed, you only use it when it is needed. And, to be honest, the CCW requirements are so low that people have been found to use it unnecessarily simply because it is there and they get an itch to be a hero.
Kim Sanders October 9th, 2014 at 17:27
I went grocery shopping and saw a muslim woman in full black garb. Believe me I wanted to hold a gun.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 18:46
Yup, solid ‘Murican there.
Kim Sanders October 10th, 2014 at 00:00
I don’t now, nor will I ever trust a muslim
If you don’t like it, too bad.
Hannah Allyse McGary October 10th, 2014 at 08:45
I think you’re only proving the point of people who want to completely ban guns in the US forever.
Kim Sanders October 10th, 2014 at 10:26
I think you’re proving that I have no recourse but to obstruct your every attempt to impinge upon my civil rights. I don’t own a gun, but I think it’s a good investment. When the jack boots show up on your doorstep, you have the option of surrendering your right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Feel just as free to leave me alone.
Hannah Allyse McGary October 10th, 2014 at 10:51
I would expect nothing more of you than to divert the subject from something relevant to something irrelevant. Oh lord, please kick the stupid people out of this country.
People who say that the sight of a minority makes them want to hold a gun do not deserve to hold a gun. Ever. And most firearm dealers would completely prevent you from purchasing from them if they heard such a statement. Most ranges would kick you out if you said something like that. So, this has nothing to do with your rights or any childish scheme you can concoct in your bored, typical mind.
I’m glad you don’t own a firearm. Lord willing, you never will. So please, let the adults speak, little Kim, and take your delusional hogwash elsewhere. Or seek counseling. Or watch some Paula Deen. Don’t care. Just quit with the xenophobic, alarmist crap.
jules October 10th, 2014 at 04:05
Curious about your name… “tired of (being) Taxed Enough Already”? You’re for higher taxes?
Hannah Allyse McGary October 9th, 2014 at 23:46
Which is why you should never be allowed the opportunity to hold one.
whatthe46 October 10th, 2014 at 00:12
you’re seriously ignorant.
Gina M. Nardoianni October 9th, 2014 at 16:17
I’m sure that’s what went through the minds of the small children and teachers at Sandy Hook Elementary: “Oh, look, a man with a gun, I feel so safe”.
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 16:26
Right, because someone casually buying groceries with a holstered pistol is the same as crazy man raining lead.
colliegurl October 9th, 2014 at 16:45
How do we know that the man with the gun at Kroger’s is a good guy with a gun?
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 16:54
For one, it’s not typical criminal behavior. A criminal with ill intentions would likely be hiding their identity, going straight for their target, and getting out as fast as possible. I would say odds are on the side of not bad guy.
Carla Akins October 9th, 2014 at 17:04
No, not necessarily. Some criminals are arrogant and delusional and the lay person shouldn’t have to worry about getting a psych degree just to go shopping for some groceries.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 19:33
Then wouldn’t you prepare instead of hope?
Carla Akins October 9th, 2014 at 20:34
The point is that you couldn’t prepare enough. You can’t know if the person grabbing a dozen eggs is a good guy or a bad guy. If you need a gun to pick up a dozen eggs, or drop a check at the water department – a therapist should be consulted. That degree of paranoia is not healthy and most certainly will not end well for someone, eventually.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 23:33
Crimes occur at grocery stores. I saw a fight in a Walmart just a month ago. The justice of the peace was robbed. The judges office had a truck ran through the front of the building and the driver became an active shooter. All this in two months.
I shoot 6 times more often then than the police. When I carry my rifle or shotgun I have way more fire power than my 9 shot Beretta. Why would you think not being prepared at all is better than just not good enough?
I would like my head stone to say “well he tried!” Not “he died on his knees”
Carla Akins October 10th, 2014 at 05:32
Who hasn’t seen a fight in Walmart, in no way would a firearm made the situation better. Someone driving a vehicle into a building is not someone walking around a retail establishment.
grendal113 October 10th, 2014 at 10:26
Do you even know the law? Ever hear of felonious assault? It was four on one, if the one had been armed we would have four less thugs on the street. If it hadn’t been for the dozen employees my wife and I would have drawn. Then held them till police arrived. Everyone is worried gun owners are vigilantes, there was no danger to my wife or I, so we didn’t get involved.
jules October 10th, 2014 at 04:04
When he points a gun at someone who isn’t committing an act of violence, then he’s a bad guy. Until that point, he’s a good guy. It’s not about “needing” a firearm to shop. It’s about not leaving your constant-carry in the vehicle, or not wanting the tools to defend yourself or others to be off your person.
Carla Akins October 10th, 2014 at 05:29
Oh – good grief, get a grip and live your life. Thinking you’ll constantly be under attack is no way to live your life and I sure as hell would not trust the instincts of someone that felt the need to constantly arm themselves in public.
BIGPoJo October 10th, 2014 at 10:03
You only need a gun when you don’t have it. Understand?
cargosquid October 13th, 2014 at 01:18
And yet….millions carry across the nation without any problems.
Virginia has had open and concealed carry for decades…and our crime rate has dropped precipitously.
Just because YOU think something is true does not make it so.
Carla Akins October 13th, 2014 at 04:26
Right back atcha. Crime has dropped all over the country since the 90’s – including areas where people don’t pack heat to the grocery store. Just because YOU think something is true, doesn’t make it so.
cargosquid October 13th, 2014 at 09:49
Oh look. You just agreed with me.
Crime HAS dropped. All the while gun ownership and carry has skyrocketed across the nation.
I do not state that the ownership and carry are the cause. I state that the ownership and carry do not contribute to crime. Your fears of “blood in the streets” by the carriers has been a constant refrain on the gun control side for decades.” It keeps NOT happening.
Carla Akins October 13th, 2014 at 13:21
Comprehension is is an issue, huh?
cargosquid October 13th, 2014 at 17:03
Apparently yours is. Crime has dropped. Guns do not cause crime.
Carla Akins October 13th, 2014 at 17:34
You still missed my point. Seriously?
cargosquid October 13th, 2014 at 17:44
“Just because YOU think something is true, doesn’t make it so.”
You are assuming that I think that increased carry caused the crime drop. I said no such thing. I stated that crime dropped while carry and ownership went up. Guns don’t cause crime.
If your point is this: “The point is that you couldn’t prepare enough.”, then you’re stating that you might as well not prepare. Because that person buying eggs, pushing a loaded cart, might suddenly start blasting someone. Yet that does not happen.
What happens is that a criminal that will carry regardless of the law will enter the store, threaten an employee and/or customers and try and get money.
THAT person is not someone that this law affects. This law merely allows the citizen the same freedom as the criminal…but lawfully.
You think that increase ownership and carry will cause an increase in crime…..but the reality is, and you agreed, is that crime has dropped.
MaximRice October 9th, 2014 at 16:48
That’s the problem — we are too casual with guns. No sane society would consider it “normal” to carry a gun everywhere. A sign of psychosis, as 30,000 gun deaths annually proves.
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 16:59
Of those 30,000 a large number are suicides. The rest primarily not committed by CHL holders (the people suffering from psychosis as you say). The crime rate among CHL holders is infact very low.
MaximRice October 9th, 2014 at 17:19
Think of the cost of your fetish:
http://guns.periscopic.com/?year=2013
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 17:49
Ok, will do.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 19:31
I can promise that the principal wished she had a gun.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 19:35
No, she was wishing that Landis didn’t.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 19:38
She at least fought. That bit of warrior spirit would have given her a chance if she was trained….how do you plan on keeping guns from a murderer? The Naval yard shooter killed a guard.you know law enforcement. …the folks that you think could disarm the rest of the country.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 19:51
“how do you plan on keeping guns from a murderer?”, kinda simple, actually. All the things you gun zealots don’t want done because they are too inconvenient for you poor dears; Fewer unregistered guns, tighter gun sale laws, especially gun at shows, change of ownership tracking, liability insurance requirements. Heavy penalties for gun use and very heavy penalties for unregistered gun transfers.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 19:53
They still have guns in the UK.they still take them from cops and they still make them in China.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 19:56
They still have phenomenally lower gun violence.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 19:58
Who cares when you have your head hacked off?
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 19:59
Because we are all imminent danger of that happening.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 20:02
About up there with your odds of being shot by a chl or open carrier.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 20:03
7x more likely a cop will shoot you.
Sprocket October 10th, 2014 at 00:44
Yeah but they have lots of knife, hammer, axe, saw and broken bottle violence
Sprocket October 10th, 2014 at 00:45
You realize most criminals steal or buy stolen guns right? So none of what you propose would have much if any effect….
Sprocket October 10th, 2014 at 00:44
That didnt help much did it?
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 18:36
“…concealed carry, which makes everyone safer”. No, it does not.
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 18:40
Stats say otherwise. And logic.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 18:44
There are no reliable stats and logic states the opposite.
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 18:51
Logic: a) No conceal carry means bad guys no they will not have to worry as much. B ) puts the weak on equal (or better) ground as the strong. You don’t think if more women conceal carried there wouldn’t be less rapes. C) there are verifiable stats that very few crimes are committed by CHL holders, guns are in the hands of those who can prevent crime. D) police are rarely there exactly when you need them.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 18:58
a-bad guys do bad things without thinking. They have the element of surprise and will take your gun from you before you can say Quick Draw McGraw, the crime dog you are pretending to be. b- wrong on it face and idiotic in concept. c- there are verifiable stats that most people don’t commit crimes, Yawn. d-Cops will show up to call for the ambulance you need after your gun was forcefully removed from your person.
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 19:08
Wow. That’s the worst rebuttal I have ever heard. In the words of Jay-Z, don’t argue with fools, from a distance you can’t tell who is who, so with that, I’m out, have fun.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 19:34
It made you go away, so mission accomplished!
BIGPoJo October 10th, 2014 at 10:01
@tiredoftea, mod with a mission huh?
Sprocket October 10th, 2014 at 00:38
It’s called situational awareness. Also the element of surprise works both ways…
jules October 10th, 2014 at 04:01
Correct. Most people don’t commit crimes. Boys who grow up in households without their fathers are the ones who commit violent crimes. CCW holders have a crime rate near that of law enforcement officers — the lowest in the nation. Why aren’t the Bloomberg Bullies out protesting fathers who abandon their families, or mothers who have children out of wedlock? That would have a greater impact on crime.
tiredoftea October 10th, 2014 at 12:59
“Boys who grow up in households without their fathers are the ones who commit violent crimes” Every single one of them? What delusional world do you live in?
cargosquid October 13th, 2014 at 01:14
“will take your gun from you before you can say Quick Draw McGraw”
Yep….that happens all the time…I see it in the news constantly.
Not.
bogart14 October 9th, 2014 at 21:37
Why is it that all of the anti-regulation people don’t know how to spell? For example “no” denotes a negation, whereas “know”, the word you are looking for, is a reference to knowledge, an attribute you clearly lack.
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 21:41
I fixed that 3 hours ago (hence the edit), I originally typed it on a phone. How can you even still see that? Have you ever been guilty of a typo? I have a master’s degree in engineering, trust me, I know the difference between no and know.
Sprocket October 10th, 2014 at 00:35
No one likes a spelling nazi….
Michelle October 10th, 2014 at 04:05
I am so sick of ‘men’ getting on here and posting about rape. WHEN HAVE ANY OF YOU EVER PREVENTED A RAPE OR ANY OTHER CRIME? I want to see a real news report about you personally saving a woman because you had a gun. And it has to be a legit link, no fake news sites like fox, or pro-nra sites.
Jake October 10th, 2014 at 09:54
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/03/woman-shoots-stalker_n_5928200.html
There you go. in you of your lib news sites as well.
You have to be dense to think pointing a gun at a potential rapist isn’t a deterrent. It probably wouldn’t prevent all rapes, but certainly it could prevent some.
barneythedinosaur October 10th, 2014 at 10:47
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=125846
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/10451493/
http://www.examiner.com/article/texas-woman-shoots-wanted-serial-robber-possible-rapist-story-ignored-by-msm
http://not-thinking.com/why-defend-yourself/videos-about-guns-used-for-self-defense/woman-shoots-rapist/
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/11/police-60-year-old-woman-shoots-and-kills-rapist-in-his-20s-2757946.html
I could a personal anecdote about not getting raped or killed because I was armed; but you will dismiss me with a claim I am just another angry white male with no education and bad dental habits.
Michelle October 10th, 2014 at 03:59
Because I am afraid of you people carrying the guns! We all are! Look at your own photos. A bunch of white trash with fourth grade educations, that is what you people look like and that is why intelligent people are afraid of you.
BIGPoJo October 10th, 2014 at 09:55
What do you mean “you people”, you racist, fascist, ammophobe, bloomberg bully!!!! People who go around claiming they are intelligent have no clue just how stupid they are. Calling people white trash is like calling blacks the n-word. We despise it. Sounds like you are sissy who is afraid of guns, do you cower down to cops when they walk into the store? Are you afraid of them open carrying or do you get a false sense of comfort from the uniform they wear? Sounds like you have fallen for the perception of authority fallacy.
Jake October 10th, 2014 at 10:12
Let’s analyze these photos for a sec:
1) He is wearing hunting attire, you hunt in the cold, you cover up.
2) He looks a bit rough, but are we really going to judge him because he is big? He could be a really nice guy.
3) That’s just a normal looking old guy posing with his new birthday present. What he says was fairly well written, regardless if you agree with his point, other than the misspelling, you ever make a typo?
4) Looks pretty average, just doing a James Bond pose for a picture… in the privacy of his own home it looks like.
5) This is the worst looking of the bunch, and the least responsibly handling of his gun around children, you really going to take this one guy and stereotype “us” all of him?
6) Looks like he is probably in the military, nothing wrong with what he said, just expressing his opinion.
7) Looks like a normal dude to me. He was making a joke, and with an all black background, I doubt he is even Kroger.
I know many intelligent gun owners with science and engineering degrees, “we” are not scary, we are intelligent by pretty much any measure. We look just like anyone else. But thanks for stereotyping.
cargosquid October 13th, 2014 at 01:12
Bigots do that.
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 13:27
This article just likes to judge people by how they look. I can respect a business for not wanting too allow open carry, the problem I have with MDA is their position on concealed carry, which makes everyone safer (which is never blatantly stated on their website, but can be inferred from their “accomplishments” they list). And the BS line they keep putting in about without regard for families and children…. How is seeing a gun bad for families and children, doesn’t make any sense.
Hannah Allyse McGary October 9th, 2014 at 13:51
Well I don’t think the article is merely judging based on aesthetic, but also words. Like that first person; that person’s words were extremely rude and malevolent. And then the bozo in the photo with the 2 semis pointed toward the camera with fingers on the triggers is disobeying one of the cardinal rules of gun safety. So is the guy with the little girl; if you’re treating a gun like it is always loaded, you would never hold a child that close to the firearm like that with no safety equipment whatsoever.
I don’t think SEEING a firearm is bad, but I think giving the impression that firearms are needed in a grocery to our most impressionable is misleading and providing an unnecessary fear. Another rule of gun ownership is that you take it where it is needed, you only hold it when it is needed, you only use it when it is needed. And, to be honest, the CCW requirements are so low that people have been found to use it unnecessarily simply because it is there and they get an itch to be a hero.
Kim Sanders October 9th, 2014 at 17:27
I went grocery shopping and saw a muslim woman in full black garb. Believe me I wanted to hold a gun.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 18:46
Yup, solid ‘Murican there.
Kim Sanders October 10th, 2014 at 00:00
I don’t now, nor will I ever trust a muslim
If you don’t like it, too bad.
Hannah Allyse McGary October 10th, 2014 at 08:45
I think you’re only proving the point of people who want to completely ban guns in the US forever.
Kim Sanders October 10th, 2014 at 10:26
I think you’re proving that I have no recourse but to obstruct your every attempt to impinge upon my civil rights. I don’t own a gun, but I think it’s a good investment. When the jack boots show up on your doorstep, you have the option of surrendering your right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Feel just as free to leave me alone.
Hannah Allyse McGary October 10th, 2014 at 10:51
I would expect nothing more of you than to divert the subject from something relevant to something irrelevant. Oh lord, please kick the stupid people out of this country.
People who say that the sight of a minority makes them want to hold a gun do not deserve to hold a gun. Ever. And most firearm dealers would completely prevent you from purchasing from them if they heard such a statement. Most ranges would kick you out if you said something like that. So, this has nothing to do with your rights or any childish scheme you can concoct in your bored, typical mind.
I’m glad you don’t own a firearm. Lord willing, you never will. So please, let the adults speak, little Kim, and take your delusional hogwash elsewhere. Or seek counseling. Or watch some Paula Deen. Don’t care. Just quit with the xenophobic, alarmist crap.
jules October 10th, 2014 at 04:05
Curious about your name… “tired of (being) Taxed Enough Already”? You’re for higher taxes?
Hannah Allyse McGary October 9th, 2014 at 23:46
Which is why you should never be allowed the opportunity to hold one.
whatthe46 October 10th, 2014 at 00:12
you’re seriously ignorant.
Gina M. Nardoianni October 9th, 2014 at 16:17
I’m sure that’s what went through the minds of the small children and teachers at Sandy Hook Elementary: “Oh, look, a man with a gun, I feel so safe”.
“How is seeing a gun bad for families and children, doesn’t make any sense”
I can’t believe you have the nerve to type something so obtuse.
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 16:26
Right, because someone casually buying groceries with a holstered pistol is the same as crazy man raining lead.
colliegurl October 9th, 2014 at 16:45
How do we know that the man with the gun at Kroger’s is a good guy with a gun?
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 16:54
For one, it’s not typical criminal behavior. A criminal with ill intentions would likely be hiding their identity, going straight for their target, and getting out as fast as possible. I would say odds are on the side of not bad guy.
Carla Akins October 9th, 2014 at 17:04
No, not necessarily. Some criminals are arrogant and delusional and the lay person shouldn’t have to worry about getting a psych degree just to go shopping for some groceries.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 19:33
Then wouldn’t you prepare instead of hope?
Carla Akins October 9th, 2014 at 20:34
The point is that you couldn’t prepare enough. You can’t know if the person grabbing a dozen eggs is a good guy or a bad guy. If you need a gun to pick up a dozen eggs, or drop a check at the water department – a therapist should be consulted. That degree of paranoia is not healthy and most certainly will not end well for someone, eventually.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 23:33
Crimes occur at grocery stores. I saw a fight in a Walmart just a month ago. The justice of the peace was robbed. The judges office had a truck ran through the front of the building and the driver became an active shooter. All this in two months.
I shoot 6 times more often then than the police. When I carry my rifle or shotgun I have way more fire power than my 9 shot Beretta. Why would you think not being prepared at all is better than just not good enough?
I would like my head stone to say “well he tried!” Not “he died on his knees”
Carla Akins October 10th, 2014 at 05:32
Who hasn’t seen a fight in Walmart, in no way would a firearm made the situation better. Someone driving a vehicle into a building is not someone walking around a retail establishment.
grendal113 October 10th, 2014 at 10:26
Do you even know the law? Ever hear of felonious assault? It was four on one, if the one had been armed we would have four less thugs on the street. If it hadn’t been for the dozen employees my wife and I would have drawn. Then held them till police arrived. Everyone is worried gun owners are vigilantes, there was no danger to my wife or I, so we didn’t get involved.
jules October 10th, 2014 at 04:04
When he points a gun at someone who isn’t committing an act of violence, then he’s a bad guy. Until that point, he’s a good guy. It’s not about “needing” a firearm to shop. It’s about not leaving your constant-carry in the vehicle, or not wanting the tools to defend yourself or others to be off your person.
Carla Akins October 10th, 2014 at 05:29
Oh – good grief, get a grip and live your life. Thinking you’ll constantly be under attack is no way to live your life and I sure as hell would not trust the instincts of someone that felt the need to constantly arm themselves in public.
BIGPoJo October 10th, 2014 at 10:03
You only need a gun when you don’t have it. Understand?
cargosquid October 13th, 2014 at 01:18
And yet….millions carry across the nation without any problems.
Virginia has had open and concealed carry for decades…and our crime rate has dropped precipitously.
Just because YOU think something is true does not make it so.
Carla Akins October 13th, 2014 at 04:26
Right back atcha. Crime has dropped all over the country since the 90’s – including areas where people don’t pack heat to the grocery store. Just because YOU think something is true, doesn’t make it so.
cargosquid October 13th, 2014 at 09:49
Oh look. You just agreed with me.
Crime HAS dropped. All the while gun ownership and carry has skyrocketed across the nation.
I do not state that the ownership and carry are the cause. I state that the ownership and carry do not contribute to crime. Your fears of “blood in the streets” by the carriers has been a constant refrain on the gun control side for decades.” It keeps NOT happening.
Carla Akins October 13th, 2014 at 13:21
Comprehension is is an issue, huh?
cargosquid October 13th, 2014 at 17:03
Apparently yours is. Crime has dropped. Guns do not cause crime.
Carla Akins October 13th, 2014 at 17:34
You still missed my point. Seriously?
cargosquid October 13th, 2014 at 17:44
“Just because YOU think something is true, doesn’t make it so.”
You are assuming that I think that increased carry caused the crime drop. I said no such thing. I stated that crime dropped while carry and ownership went up. Guns don’t cause crime.
If your point is this: “The point is that you couldn’t prepare enough.”, then you’re stating that you might as well not prepare. Because that person buying eggs, pushing a loaded cart, might suddenly start blasting someone. Yet that does not happen.
What happens is that a criminal that will carry regardless of the law will enter the store, threaten an employee and/or customers and try and get money.
THAT person is not someone that this law affects. This law merely allows the citizen the same freedom as the criminal…but lawfully.
You think that increase ownership and carry will cause an increase in crime…..but the reality is, and you agreed, is that crime has dropped.
MaximRice October 9th, 2014 at 16:48
That’s the problem — we are too casual with guns. No sane society would consider it “normal” to carry a gun everywhere. A sign of psychosis, as 30,000 gun deaths annually proves.
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 16:59
Of those 30,000 a large number are suicides. The rest primarily not committed by CHL holders (the people suffering from psychosis as you say). The crime rate among CHL holders is infact very low.
MaximRice October 9th, 2014 at 17:19
Think of the cost of your fetish:
http://guns.periscopic.com/?year=2013
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 17:49
Ok, will do.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 19:31
I can promise that the principal wished she had a gun.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 19:35
No, she was wishing that Lanza didn’t.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 19:38
She at least fought. That bit of warrior spirit would have given her a chance if she was trained….how do you plan on keeping guns from a murderer? The Naval yard shooter killed a guard.you know law enforcement. …the folks that you think could disarm the rest of the country.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 19:51
“how do you plan on keeping guns from a murderer?”, kinda simple, actually. All the things you gun zealots don’t want done because they are too inconvenient for you poor dears; Fewer unregistered guns, tighter gun sale laws, especially gun at shows, change of ownership tracking, liability insurance requirements. Heavy penalties for gun use and very heavy penalties for unregistered gun transfers.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 19:53
They still have guns in the UK.they still take them from cops and they still make them in China.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 19:56
They still have phenomenally lower gun violence.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 19:58
Who cares when you have your head hacked off?
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 19:59
Because we are all imminent danger of that happening.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 20:02
About up there with your odds of being shot by a chl or open carrier.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 20:03
7x more likely a cop will shoot you.
Sprocket October 10th, 2014 at 00:44
Yeah but they have lots of knife, hammer, axe, saw and broken bottle violence
Sprocket October 10th, 2014 at 00:45
You realize most criminals steal or buy stolen guns right? So none of what you propose would have much if any effect….
Sprocket October 10th, 2014 at 00:44
That didnt help much did it?
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 18:36
“…concealed carry, which makes everyone safer”. No, it does not.
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 18:40
Stats say otherwise. And logic.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 18:44
There are no reliable stats and logic states the opposite.
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 18:51
Logic: a) No conceal carry means bad guys know they will not have to worry as much. B ) puts the weak on equal (or better) ground as the strong. You don’t think if more women conceal carried there wouldn’t be less rapes. C) there are verifiable stats that very few crimes are committed by CHL holders, guns are in the hands of those who can prevent crime. D) police are rarely there exactly when you need them.
-edited because I wrote this on my phone, fixing typo.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 18:58
a-bad guys do bad things without thinking. They have the element of surprise and will take your gun from you before you can say Quick Draw McGraw, the crime dog you are pretending to be. b- wrong on it face and idiotic in concept. c- there are verifiable stats that most people don’t commit crimes, Yawn. d-Cops will show up to call for the ambulance you need after your gun was forcefully removed from your person.
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 19:08
Wow. That’s the worst rebuttal I have ever heard. In the words of Jay-Z, don’t argue with fools, from a distance you can’t tell who is who, so with that, I’m out, have fun.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 19:34
It made you go away, so mission accomplished!
BIGPoJo October 10th, 2014 at 10:01
@tiredoftea, mod with a mission huh?
Sprocket October 10th, 2014 at 00:38
It’s called situational awareness. Also the element of surprise works both ways…
jules October 10th, 2014 at 04:01
Correct. Most people don’t commit crimes. Boys who grow up in households without their fathers are the ones who commit violent crimes. CCW holders have a crime rate near that of law enforcement officers — the lowest in the nation. Why aren’t the Bloomberg Bullies out protesting fathers who abandon their families, or mothers who have children out of wedlock? That would have a greater impact on crime.
tiredoftea October 10th, 2014 at 12:59
“Boys who grow up in households without their fathers are the ones who commit violent crimes” Every single one of them? What delusional world do you live in?
cargosquid October 13th, 2014 at 01:14
“will take your gun from you before you can say Quick Draw McGraw”
Yep….that happens all the time…I see it in the news constantly.
Not.
bogart14 October 9th, 2014 at 21:37
Why is it that all of the anti-regulation people don’t know how to spell? For example “no” denotes a negation, whereas “know”, the word you are looking for, is a reference to knowledge, an attribute you clearly lack.
Jake October 9th, 2014 at 21:41
I fixed that 3 hours ago (hence the edit), I originally typed it on a phone. How can you even still see that? Have you ever been guilty of a typo? I have a master’s degree in engineering, trust me, I know the difference between no and know.
Sprocket October 10th, 2014 at 00:35
No one likes a spelling nazi….
Michelle October 10th, 2014 at 04:05
I am so sick of ‘men’ getting on here and posting about rape. WHEN HAVE ANY OF YOU EVER PREVENTED A RAPE OR ANY OTHER CRIME? I want to see a real news report about you personally saving a woman because you had a gun. And it has to be a legit link, no fake news sites like fox, or pro-nra sites.
Jake October 10th, 2014 at 09:54
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/03/woman-shoots-stalker_n_5928200.html
There you go. in you of your lib news sites as well.
You have to be dense to think pointing a gun at a potential rapist isn’t a deterrent. It probably wouldn’t prevent all rapes, but certainly it could prevent some.
barneythedinosaur October 10th, 2014 at 10:47
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=125846
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/10451493/
http://www.examiner.com/article/texas-woman-shoots-wanted-serial-robber-possible-rapist-story-ignored-by-msm
http://not-thinking.com/why-defend-yourself/videos-about-guns-used-for-self-defense/woman-shoots-rapist/
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/11/police-60-year-old-woman-shoots-and-kills-rapist-in-his-20s-2757946.html
I could a personal anecdote about not getting raped or killed because I was armed; but you will dismiss me with a claim I am just another angry white male with no education and bad dental habits.
Michelle October 10th, 2014 at 03:59
Because I am afraid of you people carrying the guns! We all are! Look at your own photos. A bunch of white trash with fourth grade educations, that is what you people look like and that is why intelligent people are afraid of you.
BIGPoJo October 10th, 2014 at 09:55
What do you mean “you people”, you racist, fascist, ammophobe, bloomberg bully!!!! People who go around claiming they are intelligent have no clue just how stupid they are. Calling people white trash is like calling blacks the n-word. We despise it. Sounds like you are sissy who is afraid of guns, do you cower down to cops when they walk into the store? Are you afraid of them open carrying or do you get a false sense of comfort from the uniform they wear? Sounds like you have fallen for the perception of authority fallacy.
Jake October 10th, 2014 at 10:12
Let’s analyze these photos for a sec:
1) He is wearing hunting attire, you hunt in the cold, you cover up.
2) He looks a bit rough, but are we really going to judge him because he is big? He could be a really nice guy.
3) That’s just a normal looking old guy posing with his new birthday present. What he says was fairly well written, regardless if you agree with his point, other than the misspelling, you ever make a typo?
4) Looks pretty average, just doing a James Bond pose for a picture… in the privacy of his own home it looks like.
5) This is the worst looking of the bunch, and the least responsibly handling of his gun around children, you really going to take this one guy and stereotype “us” all of him?
6) Looks like he is probably in the military, nothing wrong with what he said, just expressing his opinion.
7) Looks like a normal dude to me. He was making a joke, and with an all black background, I doubt he is even Kroger.
I know many intelligent gun owners with science and engineering degrees, “we” are not scary, we are intelligent by pretty much any measure. We look just like anyone else. But thanks for stereotyping.
cargosquid October 13th, 2014 at 01:12
Bigots do that.
steven_lockwood October 9th, 2014 at 13:46
wow, who cares about a backward store chain that is already on the verge of bankruptcy.. Im guessing they only made a controversy just to get business from anyone , no matter how dangerous or stupid they are. Better they go out of business now rather than later
RAM1 October 9th, 2014 at 19:03
To show how stupid you are their stock has more than doubled in 24 months.Says a lot about your sources of info.
jules October 10th, 2014 at 03:58
Backward store chain? It’s the 4th largest retailer IN THE WORLD. Plus, they’re healthy, growing, and hiring. They don’t need the Bloomberg Bullies, most of whom probably don’t shop there anyway. http://www.marketplace.org/topics/business/youll-be-amazed-how-big-kroger
steven_lockwood October 9th, 2014 at 13:46
wow, who cares about a backward store chain that is already on the verge of bankruptcy.. Im guessing they only made a controversy just to get business from anyone , no matter how dangerous or stupid they are. Better they go out of business now rather than later
RAM1 October 9th, 2014 at 19:03
To show how stupid you are their stock has more than doubled in 24 months.Says a lot about your sources of info.
jules October 10th, 2014 at 03:58
Backward store chain? It’s the 4th largest retailer IN THE WORLD. Plus, they’re healthy, growing, and hiring. They don’t need the Bloomberg Bullies, most of whom probably don’t shop there anyway. http://www.marketplace.org/topics/business/youll-be-amazed-how-big-kroger
Rob Thomas October 9th, 2014 at 14:11
‘Those moms’ need to evaluation their own decisions, like who they chose to breed with, because most have no father in the house. Which is the problem.
Hannah Allyse McGary October 9th, 2014 at 15:37
And the lead singer of Matchbox 20 is here to bring you a completely deluded, irrelevant and untrue little snippet of his psychosis! Good boy!
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 18:43
Kinda like your family?
GabeZ October 9th, 2014 at 18:55
Really? Where is your evidence for your assertion?
bogart14 October 9th, 2014 at 21:43
Why is it that all of the anti-regulation people don’t understand grammar? You can’t “evaluation” things. Maybe if the pro-gun folks didn’t breed with such abandon we’d have a better handle on these problems. A lack of education is clearly one of the central problems.
whatthe46 October 10th, 2014 at 00:47
just when i think i’ve read about the stupidest fk’n comment, i come upon yours.
Rob Thomas October 9th, 2014 at 14:11
‘Those moms’ need to evaluation their own decisions, like who they chose to breed with, because most have no father in the house. Which is the problem.
Hannah Allyse McGary October 9th, 2014 at 15:37
And the lead singer of Matchbox 20 is here to bring you a completely deluded, irrelevant and untrue little snippet of his psychosis! Good boy!
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 18:43
Kinda like your family?
GabeZ October 9th, 2014 at 18:55
Really? Where is your evidence for your assertion?
bogart14 October 9th, 2014 at 21:43
Why is it that all of the anti-regulation people don’t understand grammar? You can’t “evaluation” things. Maybe if the pro-gun folks didn’t breed with such abandon we’d have a better handle on these problems. A lack of education is clearly one of the central problems.
whatthe46 October 10th, 2014 at 00:47
just when i think i’ve read about the stupidest fk’n comment, i come upon yours.
Jim Thomas October 9th, 2014 at 16:06
A little more than 4 million people belong to the NRA, they have paid between $25.00 and $25,000 to be members.
211,000 “liked” the MDA for Free.
When it comes to putting your money where your mouth is only 29,000 Gun Grabbers paid dues to the Coalition To Stop Gun Violence last year.
Hillary Clinton came out and called gun owners a Minority on national tv, Discrimination of any kind is wrong, even on guns. Hopefully gun owners will start banding together better and get equal rights under the law just like every other minority group and restore their rights to participate in entertainment, sustinance, education, the legislative process as well as judicial proceedings without fear of unjust laws made specifically to discriminate against them.
The groundwork was allready laid by specical interest groups representing less than 2% of the poplulation so gun owners should just transform their battle cry to:
I AM AN AMMOSEXUAL, I WAS BORN THIS WAY, IT WASN’T A CHOICE, PLEASE RESPECT MY ALTERNATIVE LIFESTYLE.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 18:42
“A little more than 4 million people belong to the NRA,”. No, the NRA does not publish audited membership numbers. And, recent investigations show they count anyone who returns a postcard to them or registers on their website, and dead members in their numbers. So, no, the NRA has not nearly that number of actual, alive and dues paying members.
I certainly hope that you were attempting humor with the “discrimination” nonsense. It was not only not funny but confirmed why those of us with a more honest understanding of gun rights think the worst of your ammosexual types. Thanks, for that, BTW, it sure confirmed a lot. But, please learn to dress better, OK?
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 19:28
Right to keep (own) and bear (carry)…hmm and that is an enumerated right, not a perceived civil right. Where’s the confusion?
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 19:33
No confusion here, where’s the dominant clause “A well regulated militia”…? Conveniently dropped, thanks to the NRA and its followers.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 19:34
Who is the militia? All we the people….if you dont own a rifle and ammunition you are violating the 1903 militia act.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 19:46
If you have to ask that question, you are hopelessly unqualified to even address the issue. Stop parroting the gun zealot websites and learn for yourself.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 19:51
Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit I see.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 19:58
Having patience with the intellectually challenged has always outstripped many of my other talents.
cargosquid October 13th, 2014 at 01:11
So, in other words, you don’t know who the militia is, then.
Also, the dominant clause is not the militia clause. Nor does “well regulated” mean what you think it means. AND it applies only to the militia…not to the individual gun owners.
Sprocket October 10th, 2014 at 00:30
See Heller vs DC and McDonald Vs Chicago. The second amendment is an individual right irrespective of the militia clause.
Sprocket October 10th, 2014 at 00:29
Quit being an ammophobe bigot
jules October 10th, 2014 at 03:55
…and a Bloomberg Bully.
freakbiker . October 10th, 2014 at 10:06
You people must really hate Muslims and Palestinians, every time I see a picture of one in the news they are holding guns.
tiredoftea October 10th, 2014 at 13:07
Another deep thinker from the NRA’s Facebook page sharing his humor. Thanks for playing.
cargosquid October 13th, 2014 at 01:09
“And, recent investigation…”
Recent? Got a link?
Jim Thomas October 14th, 2014 at 15:43
Your ammosexual types? Grammer.com let you get started for free.
In my state I can’t go to public parks.
In my state I can’t visit the county courthouse.
In my state I can’t visit the state capitol or any other state buildings.
In my state I can’t seek any higher education
(in reality I am good with the three I have)
In my state I have to be on a Gestopo like list which is checked monthly just to exercise my rights.
160 years ago women and black men could have said the same things, if you think it is not discrimination then GOD HELP YOU.
Jim Thomas October 14th, 2014 at 15:47
Oh and by the way, the picture is from the article and not me. Makes me wonder if you read the article.
Jim Thomas October 9th, 2014 at 16:06
A little more than 4 million people belong to the NRA, they have paid between $25.00 and $25,000 to be members.
211,000 “liked” the MDA for Free.
When it comes to putting your money where your mouth is only 29,000 Gun Grabbers paid dues to the Coalition To Stop Gun Violence last year.
Hillary Clinton came out and called gun owners a Minority on national tv, Discrimination of any kind is wrong, even on guns. Hopefully gun owners will start banding together better and get equal rights under the law just like every other minority group and restore their rights to participate in entertainment, sustinance, education, the legislative process as well as judicial proceedings without fear of unjust laws made specifically to discriminate against them.
The groundwork was allready laid by specical interest groups representing less than 2% of the poplulation so gun owners should just transform their battle cry to:
I AM AN AMMOSEXUAL, I WAS BORN THIS WAY, IT WASN’T A CHOICE, PLEASE RESPECT MY ALTERNATIVE LIFESTYLE.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 18:42
“A little more than 4 million people belong to the NRA,”. No, the NRA does not publish audited membership numbers. And, recent investigations show they count anyone who returns a postcard to them or registers on their website, and dead members in their numbers. So, no, the NRA has not nearly that number of actual, alive and dues paying members.
I certainly hope that you were attempting humor with the “discrimination” nonsense. It was not only not funny but confirmed why those of us with a more honest understanding of gun rights think the worst of your ammosexual types. Thanks, for that, BTW, it sure confirmed a lot. But, please learn to dress better, OK?
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 19:28
Right to keep (own) and bear (carry)…hmm and that is an enumerated right, not a perceived civil right. Where’s the confusion?
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 19:33
No confusion here, where’s the dominant clause “A well regulated militia”…? Conveniently dropped, thanks to the NRA and its followers.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 19:34
Who is the militia? All we the people….if you dont own a rifle and ammunition you are violating the 1903 militia act.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 19:46
If you have to ask that question, you are hopelessly unqualified to even address the issue. Stop parroting the gun zealot websites and learn for yourself.
grendal113 October 9th, 2014 at 19:51
Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit I see.
tiredoftea October 9th, 2014 at 19:58
Having patience with the intellectually challenged has always outstripped many of my other talents.
cargosquid October 13th, 2014 at 01:11
So, in other words, you don’t know who the militia is, then.
Also, the dominant clause is not the militia clause. Nor does “well regulated” mean what you think it means. AND it applies only to the militia…not to the individual gun owners.
Sprocket October 10th, 2014 at 00:30
See Heller vs DC and McDonald Vs Chicago. The second amendment is an individual right irrespective of the militia clause.
Sprocket October 10th, 2014 at 00:29
Quit being an ammophobe bigot
jules October 10th, 2014 at 03:55
…and a Bloomberg Bully.
freakbiker . October 10th, 2014 at 10:06
You people must really hate Muslims and Palestinians, every time I see a picture of one in the news they are holding guns.
tiredoftea October 10th, 2014 at 13:07
Another deep thinker from the NRA’s Facebook page sharing his humor. Thanks for playing.
cargosquid October 13th, 2014 at 01:09
“And, recent investigation…”
Recent? Got a link?
Jim Thomas October 14th, 2014 at 15:43
Your ammosexual types? Grammer.com let you get started for free.
In my state I can’t go to public parks.
In my state I can’t visit the county courthouse.
In my state I can’t visit the state capitol or any other state buildings.
In my state I can’t seek any higher education
(in reality I am good with the three I have)
In my state I have to be on a Gestopo like list which is checked monthly just to exercise my rights.
160 years ago women and black men could have said the same things, if you think it is not discrimination then GOD HELP YOU.
Jim Thomas October 14th, 2014 at 15:47
Oh and by the way, the picture is from the article and not me. Makes me wonder if you read the article.
moab mike October 9th, 2014 at 16:21
open carry = cowards and/or bullies
Ima1492 October 9th, 2014 at 17:03
Mikey = moron
moab mike October 9th, 2014 at 22:48
projection is fun to watch.
Ima1492 October 10th, 2014 at 10:41
That must be why you projectile vomited your brain out at a very early age.
ded2me October 9th, 2014 at 17:31
So cops are cowards?
OldLefty October 9th, 2014 at 17:36
Do you have ANY idea what you are talking about?
Me Her October 9th, 2014 at 17:40
Apparently moab mike doesn’t.
OldLefty October 9th, 2014 at 17:54
Why?
ekaresky October 9th, 2014 at 19:10
Do you try hard to be a fucking idiot or does it come easy?
mea_mark October 9th, 2014 at 19:16
The full moon was yesterday, we are now deleting trollish comments, thanks for stopping by though. Hope you enjoyed your visit.
moab mike October 9th, 2014 at 22:47
seriously?
moab mike October 9th, 2014 at 16:21
open carry = cowards and/or bullies
Ima1492 October 9th, 2014 at 17:03
Mikey = moron
moab mike October 9th, 2014 at 22:48
projection is fun to watch.
Ima1492 October 10th, 2014 at 10:41
That must be why you projectile vomited your brain out at a very early age.
ded2me October 9th, 2014 at 17:31
So cops are cowards?
OldLefty October 9th, 2014 at 17:36
Do you have ANY idea what you are talking about?
Me Her October 9th, 2014 at 17:40
Apparently moab mike doesn’t.
OldLefty October 9th, 2014 at 17:54
Why?
mea_mark October 9th, 2014 at 19:16
The full moon was yesterday, we are now deleting trollish comments, thanks for stopping by though. Hope you enjoyed your visit.
moab mike October 9th, 2014 at 22:47
seriously?
Kim Sanders October 9th, 2014 at 17:24
I’m a mom, and I object to this group’s name: mom’s demand action. It implies I sanction their stupidity.
BTW
Vote November 4
TEA PARTY!
OldLefty October 9th, 2014 at 17:32
I’m a mom, and I object to this group’s name
_______
That’s what WE say about every group with “Patriot” in it’s name.
I can’t wait to vote in November.
Our Tea party governor looks like he will be the first one termer in decades.
Kim Sanders October 10th, 2014 at 00:07
Would that be the state of delusion?
Funny you mention that.
While I have Tea Party leanings,
I’m only decidedly anti-democrat, which means I’ll vote for whichever republican will hold Obola and his administration accountable.
How do you like me, now?
whatthe46 October 10th, 2014 at 00:38
pathetic. and extremely clueless.
Michelle October 10th, 2014 at 03:49
We didn’t like you to begin with! But I’m sure you’re used to hearing that. I also don’t believe you are a women, My guess? A nasty old racist man who lives alone and has no one to talk to.
OldLefty October 10th, 2014 at 06:50
Kim Sanders,
That’s EXACTLY how I feel about voting anti-republic, and holding those miscreants accountable.
But you MUST have the stronger argument because YOU called the president ‘Obola’.
Bet that had the rest of the 3rd grade rolling in the aisles.
freakbiker . October 10th, 2014 at 10:00
Of course you are anti -Republic, communist pig.
OldLefty October 10th, 2014 at 07:24
“How do you like me, now?” ???
__________
You are no different than fringes have been for centuries.
What’s do you mean, “now”??
Kim Sanders October 10th, 2014 at 11:02
I think I’ve kicked a Liberaland beehive. Get over yourselves. You aren’t getting our guns.
Just one more inflammatory comment before I retire from this mess:
That boot on your necks is federal issue.
OldLefty October 10th, 2014 at 11:15
I think I’ve kicked a Liberaland beehive. Get over yourselves. You aren’t getting our guns.
_______
Nobody wants your guns.
They simply want you to be responsible and to stop being obedient dupes of the gun manufacturers.
Michael D Dempsey October 10th, 2014 at 11:38
Obola? That’s not even clever. It’s offensive, ignorant, misguided and a clear indicator of your lack of mental capacity to back up your opinions with fact, evidence and reason. I’m neither Republican nor Democrat. Nor American, but that’s irrelevant in a modern world.
Kim Sanders October 10th, 2014 at 19:33
You’re pseudo god is guilty of premeditated murder.
Michael D Dempsey October 11th, 2014 at 04:13
uhh … I guess from your use of you’re and your seeming lack of a coherent thought process you didn’t understand that I’m not an Obama camper. So unless you have some insight into my personal belief system that I myself have not yet discovered, my response is, Huh?
Chuck Larlham October 11th, 2014 at 09:31
Not very well. Then again, fools and stupid people have never been my favorites. You strike me as both.
Michelle October 10th, 2014 at 03:46
You tea baggers can’t even read well enough to vote. AND you are a terrorist group!
MaximRice October 9th, 2014 at 18:20
Oh Kim — Sad you consider Moms who want to protect their children stupid. Hard to understand why you want your kids surrounded with weapons. THAT is psychotic.
Kim Sanders October 10th, 2014 at 00:03
I think you should stop trying to run everyone’s life and just screw up your own.
I was properly trained as a child to shoot a weapon. I, however, never learned to saw off a head. So, I guess my point is: Choose your weapon, wisely
whatthe46 October 10th, 2014 at 03:00
like those officers that were also trained who shot themselves. just great.
Michelle October 10th, 2014 at 03:44
But were you taught anything important? Were you given an education?
Kim Sanders October 10th, 2014 at 11:24
I have a masters degree. I’m on my way to a PHD. Incidentally, Foundational Tea Party is a highly educated demographic. Our minions, not so much. Perhaps, since you yourself are a minion of liberal agenda, you can see the usefulness of minions.
OldLefty October 10th, 2014 at 11:35
I have a masters degree. I’m on my way to a PHD.
__________
Don’t we all?
Incidentally, Foundational Tea Party is a highly educated demographic.
_________
By their OWN admission.
Mostly, they are the minions of corporate welfare queens and their lobbyists.
freakbiker . October 10th, 2014 at 09:58
Kim, this all comes from the party of tolerance, they feel that everyone deserves an opinion and state that there should be a national conversation. As long as your opinion agrees with theirs and the conversation is one sided.
The National Socialist Party round 2 is what they really are.
OldLefty October 10th, 2014 at 10:16
freakbiker,
As long as your opinion agrees with theirs and the conversation is one sided.
____________
Thou dost project too much, Methinks.
That’s EXACTLY what THEY say about YOU.
The ACTUAL National Socialist Party (Who killed off the socialists as their first action), round 2 is what YOU really seem to be.
projection; When a person has uncomfortable thoughts or feelings, they may project these onto other people, assigning the thoughts or feelings that they need torepress to a convenient alternative target
freakbiker . October 10th, 2014 at 11:08
Is that your version of “I know you are but what am I?” Pathetic
Projection: when a liberal cries racism and terrorism when they have no rational dialogue
OldLefty October 10th, 2014 at 11:13
Is that your version of “I know you are but what am I?
_______
No, not at all.
It’s pointing out that you are using the same old, stale talking points that have been used for centuries with no facts to back it up.
Learn what you are talking about or at least come up with some original material.
freakbiker . October 10th, 2014 at 13:01
Someone that attacks another’s use of an apostrophe while claiming talking points on gun control is centuries old is laughable.
When the hypocritical left acts like adults rather than throw petty insults as seen in almost every post here, you might be taken seriously.
OldLefty October 10th, 2014 at 13:33
Someone that attacks another’s use of an apostrophe while claiming talking points on gun control is centuries old is laughable.
When the hypocritical left acts like adults rather than throw petty insults as seen in almost every post here, you might be taken seriously.
_________
I’m not responding to the “use of an apostrophe” comment .
The sentiment, “As long as your opinion agrees with theirs and the conversation is one sided.” is centuries old.
And get back to me when the hypocritical right stops calling everyone who disagrees with them NAZIs and calls the president “Obola”, and can hold up their end of the argument.
Kim Sanders October 10th, 2014 at 11:18
OldLefty reverts to old English. You have gone out of your way to stalk me, OldLefty. My email is jammed with your compulsion to aggravate someone who doesn’t agree with you.
Get over it. You’ve been diverted to my spam bucket.
OldLefty October 10th, 2014 at 11:23
What email?????
Stalk you???
By seeing a comment that is easily refuted?
Michelle October 10th, 2014 at 03:42
Kim, since you claim you are a member of the tea baggers, I doubt you are raising children…perhaps you are a great grandmother because every time I see your racist group gathering (only in nice weather)) you all seem to be at least 70 (not to insult clear thinking grandparents or all people in their 70s)
Chuck Larlham October 10th, 2014 at 06:27
As a person in my seventies I thank you for the caveat.
bogart14 October 10th, 2014 at 04:07
Your lack of any logical argument has undoubtedly swayed many. Also, your misuse of an apostrophe continues the trend of “gun-rights” supporters evidently being unable to write two sentences without epically failing. One misplaced apostrophe isn’t epic, but the combined intellectual failure rate of y’all is pretty impressive.
Kim Sanders October 10th, 2014 at 10:55
You’re basing your superiority on a type-o? Bogart, that boot on your neck is federal issue.
Rick October 10th, 2014 at 11:52
Kim this is who you are,plain and simple another Koch brothers sheep.
Guest October 10th, 2014 at 11:53
This is who you are Kim,pretty obvious.
Kim Sanders October 9th, 2014 at 17:24
I’m a mom, and I object to this group’s name: mom’s demand action. It implies I sanction their stupidity.
BTW
Vote November 4
Edited, just because ~ mea mark
OldLefty October 9th, 2014 at 17:32
I’m a mom, and I object to this group’s name
_______
That’s what WE say about every group with “Patriot” in it’s name.
I can’t wait to vote in November.
Our Tea party governor looks like he will be the first one termer in decades.
Kim Sanders October 10th, 2014 at 00:07
Would that be the state of delusion?
Funny you mention that.
While I have Tea Party leanings,
I’m only decidedly anti-democrat, which means I’ll vote for whichever republican will hold Obola and his administration accountable.
How do you like me, now?
whatthe46 October 10th, 2014 at 00:38
pathetic. and extremely clueless.
Michelle October 10th, 2014 at 03:49
We didn’t like you to begin with! But I’m sure you’re used to hearing that. I also don’t believe you are a women, My guess? A nasty old racist man who lives alone and has no one to talk to.
OldLefty October 10th, 2014 at 06:50
Kim Sanders,
That’s EXACTLY how I feel about voting anti-republic, and holding those miscreants accountable.
But you MUST have the stronger argument because YOU called the president ‘Obola’.
Bet that had the rest of the 3rd grade rolling in the aisles.
OldLefty October 10th, 2014 at 07:24
“How do you like me, now?” ???
__________
You are no different than fringes have been for centuries.
What’s do you mean, “now”??
Kim Sanders October 10th, 2014 at 11:02
I think I’ve kicked a Liberaland beehive. Get over yourselves. You aren’t getting our guns.
Just one more inflammatory comment before I retire from this mess:
That boot on your necks is federal issue.
OldLefty October 10th, 2014 at 11:15
I think I’ve kicked a Liberaland beehive. Get over yourselves. You aren’t getting our guns.
_______
Nobody wants your guns.
They simply want you to be responsible and to stop being obedient dupes of the gun manufacturers.
Michael D Dempsey October 10th, 2014 at 11:38
Obola? That’s not even clever. It’s offensive, ignorant, misguided and a clear indicator of your lack of mental capacity to back up your opinions with fact, evidence and reason. I’m neither Republican nor Democrat. Nor American, but that’s irrelevant in a modern world.
Kim Sanders October 10th, 2014 at 19:33
You’re pseudo god is guilty of premeditated murder.
Michael D Dempsey October 11th, 2014 at 04:13
uhh … I guess from your use of you’re and your seeming lack of a coherent thought process you didn’t understand that I’m not an Obama camper. So unless you have some insight into my personal belief system that I myself have not yet discovered, my response is, Huh?
Michelle October 10th, 2014 at 03:46
tea baggers can’t even read well enough to vote. AND you are a terrorist group!
MaximRice October 9th, 2014 at 18:20
Oh Kim — Sad you consider Moms who want to protect their children stupid. Hard to understand why you want your kids surrounded with weapons. THAT is psychotic.
Kim Sanders October 10th, 2014 at 00:03
I think you should stop trying to run everyone’s life and just screw up your own.
I was properly trained as a child to shoot a weapon. I, however, never learned to saw off a head. So, I guess my point is: Choose your weapon, wisely
whatthe46 October 10th, 2014 at 03:00
like those officers that were also trained who shot themselves. just great.
Michelle October 10th, 2014 at 03:44
But were you taught anything important? Were you given an education?
Kim Sanders October 10th, 2014 at 11:24
I have a masters degree. I’m on my way to a PHD. Incidentally, Foundational Tea Party is a highly educated demographic. Our minions, not so much. Perhaps, since you yourself are a minion of liberal agenda, you can see the usefulness of minions.
OldLefty October 10th, 2014 at 11:29
I have a masters degree. I’m on my way to a PHD.
__________
Don’t we all?
Incidentally, Foundational Tea Party is a highly educated demographic.
_________
By their OWN admission.
Mostly, they are the minions of corporate welfare queens and their lobbyists;
Eric Odam
(American Liberty Alliance and Strategy Activism, LLC.), FreedomWorks, (Dick
Army: DLA Piper (represented AIG, Lehman Brothers, and
Merrill Lynch during the bailouts Senado de Republica,
the Mexican Senate), Americans For Prosperity, (Kochs), The Tea Party
Express (Russo, Marsh, and Rogers (RMR), a conservative
lobbying group. (Barbour as in Haley Barbour) , in 2009 alone,
it plunged at least $1,025,55 9 of money it raised back into RMR.
OldLefty October 10th, 2014 at 11:35
I have a masters degree. I’m on my way to a PHD.
__________
Don’t we all?
Incidentally, Foundational Tea Party is a highly educated demographic.
_________
By their OWN admission.
Mostly, they are the minions of corporate welfare queens and their lobbyists.
freakbiker . October 10th, 2014 at 09:58
Kim, this all comes from the party of tolerance, they feel that everyone deserves an opinion and state that there should be a national conversation. As long as your opinion agrees with theirs and the conversation is one sided.
The National Socialist Party round 2 is what they really are.
OldLefty October 10th, 2014 at 10:16
freakbiker,
As long as your opinion agrees with theirs and the conversation is one sided.
____________
Thou dost project too much, Methinks.
That’s EXACTLY what THEY say about YOU.
The ACTUAL National Socialist Party (Who killed off the socialists as their first action), round 2 is what YOU really seem to be.
projection; When a person has uncomfortable thoughts or feelings, they may project these onto other people, assigning the thoughts or feelings that they need torepress to a convenient alternative target
freakbiker . October 10th, 2014 at 11:08
Is that your version of “I know you are but what am I?” Pathetic
Projection: when a liberal cries racism and terrorism when they have no rational dialogue
OldLefty October 10th, 2014 at 11:13
Is that your version of “I know you are but what am I?
_______
No, not at all.
It’s pointing out that you are using the same old, stale talking points that have been used for centuries with no facts to back it up.
Learn what you are talking about or at least come up with some original material.
freakbiker . October 10th, 2014 at 13:01
Someone that attacks another’s use of an apostrophe while claiming talking points on gun control is centuries old is laughable.
When the hypocritical left acts like adults rather than throw petty insults as seen in almost every post here, you might be taken seriously.
OldLefty October 10th, 2014 at 13:33
Someone that attacks another’s use of an apostrophe while claiming talking points on gun control is centuries old is laughable.
When the hypocritical left acts like adults rather than throw petty insults as seen in almost every post here, you might be taken seriously.
_________
I’m not responding to the “use of an apostrophe” comment .
The sentiment, “As long as your opinion agrees with theirs and the conversation is one sided.” is centuries old.
And get back to me when the hypocritical right stops calling everyone who disagrees with them NAZIs and calls the president “Obola”, and can hold up their end of the argument.
Kim Sanders October 10th, 2014 at 11:18
OldLefty reverts to old English. You have gone out of your way to stalk me, OldLefty. My email is jammed with your compulsion to aggravate someone who doesn’t agree with you.
Get over it. You’ve been diverted to my spam bucket.
OldLefty October 10th, 2014 at 11:23
What email?????
Stalk you???
By seeing a comment that is easily refuted?
Michelle October 10th, 2014 at 03:42
Kim, since you claim you are a member of the tea baggers, I doubt you are raising children…perhaps you are a great grandmother because every time I see your racist group gathering (only in nice weather)) you all seem to be at least 70 (not to insult clear thinking grandparents or all people in their 70s)
Chuck Larlham October 10th, 2014 at 06:27
As a person in my seventies I thank you for the caveat.
bogart14 October 10th, 2014 at 04:07
Your lack of any logical argument has undoubtedly swayed many. Also, your misuse of an apostrophe continues the trend of “gun-rights” supporters evidently being unable to write two sentences without epically failing. One misplaced apostrophe isn’t epic, but the combined intellectual failure rate of y’all is pretty impressive.
Kim Sanders October 10th, 2014 at 10:55
You’re basing your superiority on a type-o? Bogart, that boot on your neck is federal issue.
Guest October 10th, 2014 at 11:52
Kim this is who you are,plain and simple another Koch brothers sheep.
Guest October 10th, 2014 at 11:53
This is who you are Kim,pretty obvious.
Angeline October 9th, 2014 at 21:20
Actually, the fact that a photo is posted on a social media site does not mean the owner has forfeited copyright to reproduce the photo. Their copyright remains intact unless specifically disclaimed through something like a Creative Commons license. To claim otherwise is kind of a wild west mentality all its own.
Angeline October 9th, 2014 at 21:20
Actually, the fact that a photo is posted on a social media site does not mean the owner has forfeited copyright to reproduce the photo. Their copyright remains intact unless specifically disclaimed through something like a Creative Commons license. To claim otherwise is kind of a wild west mentality all its own.
Tiffany Miller October 9th, 2014 at 23:04
gun rights activists are terrorists
Sprocket October 10th, 2014 at 00:25
Sounds like you need to go look up the definition of terrorist….
jules October 10th, 2014 at 03:53
I think the Bloomberg Bullies more closely fit that definition…
Chuck Larlham October 10th, 2014 at 06:23
How so, lackwit? They threaten no physical harm. There is nothing they could do at any time that would result in anyone’s injury or death (unlike the nitwit who dropped an unsafetied gun with a round under the hammer and shot two people and a can of tomatoes… with one bullet). So in what way are they terrorists?
freakbiker . October 10th, 2014 at 09:45
I wouldn’t call them terrorists. Maybe National Socialists Party
Chuck Larlham October 10th, 2014 at 06:25
Why should she? Looks like she has pretty much the right of it. Reading the comments of gun rights activists, and watching their behavior, it’s evident to anyone with enough smarts to pour water out of a boot without directions on the heel that those fools are terrorists.
Guest October 10th, 2014 at 09:44
You are right. National Socialist Party describes them more.
annaaurora October 10th, 2014 at 17:12
hey don’t bitch too hard on that socialist party that once started in this here USA. It kinda got some work regulations and practices going on.
Chuck Larlham October 11th, 2014 at 09:26
Um-m-m… National Socialist Party was Nazis.
annaaurora October 11th, 2014 at 10:53
Read your history…..
Chuck Larlham October 11th, 2014 at 11:59
I have. You should do the same, but here’s a short precis from Wikipedia:
National Socialist German Workers’ Party. Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei… literally the, “National Socialist German Negotiators Party.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party
The word “Nazi” comes from dividing up the first word thusly: {“Na” tionalso “zi” alistische} and using the Na and zi to create the word “Nazi”)
annaaurora October 11th, 2014 at 19:54
Before that. American Socialists Party starting in 1867.
annaaurora October 11th, 2014 at 20:18
I never said they started here you hump.
OldLefty October 11th, 2014 at 12:17
Also;
Ernst Roehm, was in charge of the
Sturmabteilung which included many
members who actually believed in the ‘socialism’ of National Socialism and also
wanted to become a true revolutionary army in place of the regular German
Army. Their anti-capitalist ideologies of the SA
leaders (and echoed by the restless masses ) caused great concern to big
industry leaders who had helped put Hitler in power. Hitler had promised
them he would put down the trade union movement and Marxists, which he had
done, but now his own storm troopers were sounding more and more like Marxists
themselves.
According to Hitler, 61 had been executed while 13 had been shot, resisting arrest and three had committed suicide. Others have argued that as many as 400 people were killed . This was The Night of the Long Knives.
The Nazis believed that communism was dangerous to the well-being of nations
because of its intention to dissolve private property and it’s atheism.
annaaurora October 11th, 2014 at 19:47
I’m talking about the American Socialistic. Started in 1867. We did have a pretty big one for a while especially from 1901-1918.
OldLefty October 12th, 2014 at 08:12
I’m talking about the American Socialistic. Started in 1867. We did have a pretty big one for a while especially from 1901-1918
___________
What does that have to do with the Nazis?
annaaurora October 12th, 2014 at 09:46
I never said anything about the Nazi’s. It was you who and Chuck who brought up the Nazi’s.
OldLefty October 12th, 2014 at 09:50
We were responding to comments about Nazis …… I thought.
Perhaps this comes down to, ‘never mind”.
annaaurora October 13th, 2014 at 11:36
Oh I didn’t realize the WE. Sometimes, well often, I forget to pay attention and further more I need to remember it’s not all about me. Sorry OldLefty. Here’s to Hibbing and the Haymarket.
OldLefty October 13th, 2014 at 11:40
Me too.
Actually, I lost track of the thread.
annaaurora October 13th, 2014 at 11:49
On a thread someone was calling the anti-gun folks socialists. I made mention that socialists had much to do regarding worker’s rights. Which they did. When I said this I was specifically thinking of American Socialism. And like all gun people he went down the Nazi path. That is one of their ever loving charms.
OldLefty October 13th, 2014 at 11:53
Ok.
I lost track of who was calling who, what.
OldLefty October 13th, 2014 at 11:53
Ok.
I lost track of who was calling who, what.
annaaurora October 13th, 2014 at 12:04
If you really want to know ask again but you must know I am not fond of guns!
OldLefty October 13th, 2014 at 12:51
I’m done.
annaaurora October 13th, 2014 at 11:49
On a thread someone was calling the anti-gun folks socialists. I made mention that socialists had much to do regarding worker’s rights. Which they did. When I said this I was specifically thinking of American Socialism. And like all gun people he went down the Nazi path. That is one of their ever loving charms.
annaaurora October 11th, 2014 at 20:26
American Socialist Party.
OldLefty October 12th, 2014 at 07:47
“American Socialist Party”
__________
????????
Sprocket October 11th, 2014 at 15:14
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10647110_833918873297915_1492543666263233379_n.jpg?oh=9036d4dae5d3a7dd42a3fc6492c82375&oe=54BF9496&__gda__=1420646190_fcb2af9cb929839f48966ccfa6ea8886
Tiffany Miller October 9th, 2014 at 23:04
gun rights activists are terrorists
Sprocket October 10th, 2014 at 00:25
Sounds like you need to go look up the definition of terrorist….
jules October 10th, 2014 at 03:53
I think the Bloomberg Bullies more closely fit that definition…
Chuck Larlham October 10th, 2014 at 06:23
How so, lackwit? They threaten no physical harm. There is nothing they could do at any time that would result in anyone’s injury or death (unlike the nitwit who dropped an unsafetied gun with a round under the hammer and shot two people and a can of tomatoes… with one bullet). So in what way are they terrorists?
freakbiker . October 10th, 2014 at 09:45
I wouldn’t call them terrorists. Maybe National Socialists Party
Chuck Larlham October 10th, 2014 at 06:25
Why should she? Looks like she has pretty much the right of it. Reading the comments of gun rights activists, and watching their behavior, it’s evident to anyone with enough smarts to pour water out of a boot without directions on the heel that those fools are terrorists.
Guest October 10th, 2014 at 09:44
You are right. National Socialist Party describes them more.
annaaurora October 10th, 2014 at 17:12
hey don’t bitch too hard on that socialist party that once started in this here USA. It kinda got some work regulations and practices going on.
Chuck Larlham October 11th, 2014 at 09:26
Um-m-m… National Socialist Party was Nazis.
annaaurora October 11th, 2014 at 10:53
Read your history…..
Chuck Larlham October 11th, 2014 at 11:59
I have. You should do the same, but here’s a short precis from Wikipedia:
National Socialist German Workers’ Party. Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei… literally the, “National Socialist German Negotiators Party.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party
The word “Nazi” comes from dividing up the first word thusly: {“Na” tionalso “zi” alistische} and using the Na and zi to create the word “Nazi”)
Despite Wikipedia’s shortcomings, their description of this matter is accurate. Nazi-ism didn’t begin in America, nor did “Socialism,” per se. That started in Canada as Communism reimagined. I don’t know who taught you history, but you need to have a talk with them. Whoever it was failed you, and badly.
annaaurora October 11th, 2014 at 19:54
Before that. American Socialist Party started in 1876 and was made up of mostly English, Germans and Jews. It then kind of died before gaining wind again. It was a workers party, or at least one of them. Check out Minnesota for it’s place on the map for worker’s rights and that of Chicago’s. Haymarket was the turning point for workers across the globe. We are not talking Nazi’s. We are talking American’s. When the Bolsheviks came around that’s when we started putting the progressives back in the bag. Which is quite frankly what you gun people, or rather the Gun, Gladstone Flag Flying, Tea Voting or RePubs like. That’s when the bircher’s, and the knights shine their brightest Chum?
annaaurora October 11th, 2014 at 20:18
I never said they started here you hump.
OldLefty October 11th, 2014 at 12:17
Also;
Ernst Roehm, was in charge of the
Sturmabteilung which included many
members who actually believed in the ‘socialism’ of National Socialism and also
wanted to become a true revolutionary army in place of the regular German
Army. Their anti-capitalist ideologies of the SA
leaders (and echoed by the restless masses ) caused great concern to big
industry leaders who had helped put Hitler in power. Hitler had promised
them he would put down the trade union movement and Marxists, which he had
done, but now his own storm troopers were sounding more and more like Marxists
themselves.
According to Hitler, 61 had been executed while 13 had been shot, resisting arrest and three had committed suicide. Others have argued that as many as 400 people were killed . This was The Night of the Long Knives.
The Nazis believed that communism was dangerous to the well-being of nations
because of its intention to dissolve private property and it’s atheism.
annaaurora October 11th, 2014 at 19:47
I’m talking about the American Socialistic. Started in 1867. We did have a pretty big one for a while especially from 1901-1918.
OldLefty October 12th, 2014 at 08:12
I’m talking about the American Socialistic. Started in 1867. We did have a pretty big one for a while especially from 1901-1918
___________
What does that have to do with the Nazis?
annaaurora October 12th, 2014 at 09:46
I never said anything about the Nazi’s. It was you who and Chuck who brought up the Nazi’s.
OldLefty October 12th, 2014 at 09:50
We were responding to comments about Nazis …… I thought.
Perhaps this comes down to, ‘never mind”.
annaaurora October 13th, 2014 at 11:36
Oh I didn’t realize the WE. Sometimes, well often, I forget to pay attention and further more I need to remember it’s not all about me. Sorry OldLefty. Here’s to Hibbing and the Haymarket.
OldLefty October 13th, 2014 at 11:40
Me too.
Actually, I lost track of the thread.
annaaurora October 13th, 2014 at 11:49
On a thread someone was calling the anti-gun folks socialists. I made mention that socialists had much to do regarding worker’s rights. Which they did. When I said this I was specifically thinking of American Socialism. And like all gun people he went down the Nazi path. That is one of their ever loving charms.
OldLefty October 13th, 2014 at 11:53
Ok.
I lost track of who was calling who, what.
annaaurora October 13th, 2014 at 12:04
If you really want to know ask again but you must know I am not fond of guns!
OldLefty October 13th, 2014 at 12:51
I’m done.
annaaurora October 11th, 2014 at 20:26
American Socialist Party.
OldLefty October 12th, 2014 at 07:47
“American Socialist Party”
__________
????????
Sprocket October 11th, 2014 at 15:14
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10647110_833918873297915_1492543666263233379_n.jpg?oh=9036d4dae5d3a7dd42a3fc6492c82375&oe=54BF9496&__gda__=1420646190_fcb2af9cb929839f48966ccfa6ea8886
minnginn October 10th, 2014 at 00:05
There is no arguing with those who insist on carrying loaded guns everywhere they go, so protest with your dollars and use them elsewhere.
Melisa Bruner October 10th, 2014 at 10:05
why shouldn’t people be allowed to pack firearms?
minnginn October 10th, 2014 at 00:05
There is no arguing with those who insist on carrying loaded guns everywhere they go, so protest with your dollars and use them elsewhere.
Melisa Bruner October 10th, 2014 at 10:05
why shouldn’t people be allowed to pack firearms?
postone October 10th, 2014 at 01:26
If you are a law abiding citizen its no one’s else’s business what you, say, or carry as long as you are not breaking any laws. And the same goes for the people who oppose open carry, CCW, gays or what have you, its their right to express their views again as long as no laws are broken.
I have carried 38 special and then a Colt Government Issue 380 (they aren’t made any longer) since I was 21 years old. I have never had to use it, but I did pull it one time. Some say if you pull a gun you should be ready to use it. That’s, crap because the police pull theirs all the time and don’t always shoot.
The problem with both sides of this issue and both sides of people, is that neither one of ya will let the other live their lives. Just mind your own business (both sides) and tend to your families. None of you are so special that your backyard is all cleaned up and you have nothing to do.
And grow up…
bogart14 October 10th, 2014 at 03:59
Oy vei, obviously the issue is what the laws are, what is contraband or not. Cocaine is not legal, even though, a priori, there is no theoretical necessity for your possession of a baggie of coke to harm me. Driving 120 mph doesn’t in and of itself harm anyone either. But there are laws against that activity. The relative positivity of those laws may be up for debate, but your post clearly lacks any realistic perspective. The Guvment regulates cars (and crack), unless you disagree with the basic proposition that these fall under the purview of the state, then you would be intellectually failing if you somehow separated guns from said regulatory mechanisms.
verneoz October 10th, 2014 at 08:36
There are over 20,000 local, state and federal gun laws on the books in the 50 states. Guns are definitely regulated.