Despite Concerns, Open Carry Group In Virginia Plans March Through Predominately Black Area Again
An Open Carry Group in Richmond, Virginia plans a “Freedom March” on Saturday through Creighton Court, a predominately African American area. The group tried this before and it didn’t go down well. Open Carry Texas made plans to march through the 5th Ward, also a predominately black area, and that group was specifically told, “You are not welcome here.” OCT cancelled the march after being confronted by community leaders.
This group is equally obstinate.
Jason Spitzer on August 2nd.
“Don’t come home right now,” she told her grandmother. “They’re shooting out there. There are shots all over.”
That’s not uncommon in an area stricken with violence but that’s the neighborhood the Open Carry group chose.
“That’s the environment we live in,” Olds said, who is, vice chairwoman of the board of commissioners of the Richmond Redevelopment and Housing Authority, which operates her public housing community in the city’s East End. “So why would you bring guns in to promote them?”
The march will start on Saturday at 11:30 a.m.
“I think they picked a bad area to promote guns,” Olds said. “Our young men already see enough violence, they hear enough gunshots. They hear that seven days a week.”
Michael Paul Williams of the Times Dispatch contacted the group through its Facebook page, The Right to Bear Arms Richmond.
Jason Spitzer, the organizer of the group, told Williams that he expects about five people will participate in the march, and the participants will carry unloaded “long guns.”
And that’s a good thing for Spitzer considering it is not legal to carry a loaded rifle or shotgun in the city, not to distribute leaflets.
“We spread constitutional awareness to any and all citizens or people that are willing to listen, not just about firearms but all rights,” he said.
He said that if anyone is intimidated“then come talk to us.”
“Me personally, I’m not going to walk into Creighton Court. And that is not because of the area. But we do not want to push the boundaries” of trespassing laws, he said.
Spitzer and his gang previously attended a rally in support of Michael Brown, the slain Ferguson teenager. Spitzer and his crew inadvertently threw their support in for “Chris Brown.” When an activist told that they did not know the teen’s name, Spitzer said, “I know his last name is Ferguson.”
In September, the group visited Creighton Court, which prompted calls to the police by alarmed residents in the area while the members of the group marched with rifles.
Andrew Goddard, legislative director for the Virginia Center for Public Safety, whose son is a survivor of the Virginia Tech shootings, wonders if intimidation plays a factor in the marches.
“The open-carry movement is beginning to spread and is getting bolder about where they carry their weapons,” Goddard said. “There have been numerous cases where people openly exhibit military-style rifles in public areas, like grocery stores, coffee shops and on public streets such as Cary Street. I think this is a very dangerous trend that needs to be dealt with before it becomes more widespread.”
“While I agree that there is technically a ‘right’ to do this, I am not convinced that there is a valid need, or that the display is of any benefit to either those carrying or those observing,” he said.
“What’s the difference between seeing an armed citizen walking down the street, open carry, and a police officer?” he asked.
We know who the police are. We do not know who the mostly male group of gun toting activists are. We don’t need others to educate us, especially if they are carrying weapons in a troubled area.
In addition, one of the group’s members — the only black one — changed his Facebook name to include “III,” a sign of support for the Three Percenters. Adding to that, the group has been seen carrying a Confederate Flag during protests.
Their motivation is intimidation. Also, too, the South will not ‘rise again’ and most assuredly, not from Creighton Court.
Big thanks to my source whose anonymity will be respected here.
All images were obtained through social media after the group circulated them, thereby making them fair use.
Copyright 2014 Liberaland
By: Anomaly100
forpeace October 3rd, 2014 at 13:35
Why aren’t these people even working?
Where do they get the money from?
Are they using government social programs to live on?
granpa.usthai October 3rd, 2014 at 13:47
you hiring? – I’m sure they could come to an interview, before or after their class, as long as your workplace is ‘gun friendly’.
forpeace October 3rd, 2014 at 14:01
I don’t hire the thugs.
tiredoftea October 3rd, 2014 at 13:36
Not a chance, Darth only shoots campaign contributors.
granpa.usthai October 3rd, 2014 at 13:51
I thought it was BFF’s only? I mean, if a BFF shot me in the face with a shotgun, I’d probably want to agree with whatever he said – at least until somebody took the damn shotgun away!
Abby Normal October 3rd, 2014 at 13:37
These guys suffer from the same condition Kim Jong Un has.
http://www.madeincommunistchina.com
Abby Normal October 3rd, 2014 at 13:37
These guys suffer from the same condition Kim Jong Un has.
http://www.madeincommunistchina.com
tracey marie October 3rd, 2014 at 13:43
Being ignorant, pugnacious and doughy but feeling “manly” because they have a gun(s)
tracey marie October 3rd, 2014 at 13:43
Being ignorant, pugnacious and doughy but feeling “manly” because they have a gun(s)
granpa.usthai October 3rd, 2014 at 13:46
granma wants to know if it’s legal to chase armed men down the streets of Virginia with a cast iron frying pan?
not up to snuff on Virginia state laws –
anybody?
granpa.usthai October 3rd, 2014 at 13:46
granma wants to know if it’s legal to chase armed men down the streets of Virginia with a cast iron frying pan?
not up to snuff on Virginia state laws –
anybody?
forpeace October 3rd, 2014 at 13:57
None of them can pass a GED test. They can even ask San Antonia, Texas “Goddesses with Guns” to join them. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/ksat_gun_goddess_140922a-800×430.jpg
granpa.usthai October 3rd, 2014 at 14:01
well, for US southerners, I think most of us are able to figure out why the war ended in Virginia so quickly.
dumb.
just pure t rotten stump dumb.
Larry Schmitt October 3rd, 2014 at 14:09
If there’s trouble, they’ll have to drop their drinks to use their guns. I’m not sure they’re that coordinated.
NoInfo ToShare October 3rd, 2014 at 14:25
More like “Gordas for Guns.”
Anomaly 100 October 3rd, 2014 at 14:53
Laughing!
William October 3rd, 2014 at 14:43
Ah yes….good ‘ol Texas. GED tests can be very confusing in the lone star state.
Raymond G. Whitham October 4th, 2014 at 03:34
Maybe this time they will pass their kindergarden GED!
forpeace October 3rd, 2014 at 13:57
None of them can pass a GED test. They can even ask San Antonia, Texas “Goddesses with Guns” to join them. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/ksat_gun_goddess_140922a-800×430.jpg
granpa.usthai October 3rd, 2014 at 14:01
well, for US southerners, I think most of us are able to figure out why the war ended in Virginia so quickly.
dumb.
just pure t rotten stump dumb.
Larry Schmitt October 3rd, 2014 at 14:09
If there’s trouble, they’ll have to drop their drinks to use their guns. I’m not sure they’re that coordinated.
NoInfo ToShare October 3rd, 2014 at 14:25
More like “Gordas for Guns.”
Anomaly 100 October 3rd, 2014 at 14:53
Laughing!
William October 3rd, 2014 at 14:43
Ah yes….good ‘ol Texas. GED tests can be very confusing in the lone star state.
Raymond G. Whitham October 4th, 2014 at 03:34
Maybe this time they will pass their kindergarden GED!
Guy Lauten October 3rd, 2014 at 14:04
If I was one of those young black men in that neighborhood who owned a gun, and I saw 15 wannbe tough white assholes bring their high-powered rifles onto my turf, I would be sorely tempted to blow one or two of them away and take all of their guns. Should be able to get a good price for white-boy pieces. March away little boys, march away.
Larry Schmitt October 3rd, 2014 at 14:21
Their guns are worth more than they are.
Guy Lauten October 3rd, 2014 at 16:59
Indeed… a LOT more! It’s like taking your favorite muscle car into 8-mile after midnight… good luck holding on to THAT!
Skydog2 October 4th, 2014 at 04:14
Violent hat speech is alive and well at Liberaland.
Wendy Wilkins Valdez October 4th, 2014 at 09:09
The violent hate speech is planning the march. The comment above is more a supposition of the mindset they may be walking into. None of it is right, but some lessons are hard learned.
Skydog2 October 4th, 2014 at 13:01
Planning the march is what free people do, hating them is what liberals do.
Guy Lauten October 4th, 2014 at 14:34
That’s right. Do something about it, shithead. Or is whining your entire repertoire?
mea_mark October 4th, 2014 at 14:49
Careful now. There is a much better view of things on the high road, the low road is full of traps that are best avoided.
Matt Stewart October 4th, 2014 at 19:46
You mean, the low road is full of conservatives.
Guy Lauten October 4th, 2014 at 14:33
Yes, it is. Come and get it, asshole.
Matt Stewart October 4th, 2014 at 19:45
You always point out “liberal violent hate speech”, but seem to be oblivious to the incessant vitriolic hatred spewed by conservatives. But that’s okay, right? Because conservatives hate the right people.
Skydog2 October 4th, 2014 at 19:49
I see hate speech on both sides.
Anthony Dewayne Overall October 5th, 2014 at 16:15
that’s reality it has nothing to do with conservative or liberal, you don’t see these idiots trying to “educate” people in Watts, Compton or any other gang infested areas.
Guy Lauten October 3rd, 2014 at 14:04
If I was one of those young black men in that neighborhood who owned a gun, and I saw 15 wannbe tough white assholes bring their high-powered rifles onto my turf, I would be sorely tempted to blow one or two of them away and take all of their guns. Should be able to get a good price for white-boy pieces. March away little boys, march away.
Larry Schmitt October 3rd, 2014 at 14:21
Their guns are worth more than they are.
Guy Lauten October 3rd, 2014 at 16:59
Indeed… a LOT more! It’s like taking your favorite muscle car into 8-mile after midnight… good luck holding on to THAT!
Skydog2 October 4th, 2014 at 04:14
“I would be sorely tempted to blow one or two of them away ”
Violent hate speech is alive and well at Liberaland.
Wendy Wilkins Valdez October 4th, 2014 at 09:09
The violent hate speech is planning the march. The comment above is more a supposition of the mindset they may be walking into. None of it is right, but some lessons are hard learned.
Skydog2 October 4th, 2014 at 13:01
Planning the march is what free people do, hating them is what liberals do.
Guy Lauten October 4th, 2014 at 14:34
That’s right. Do something about it. Or is whining your entire repertoire?
mea_mark October 4th, 2014 at 14:49
Careful now. There is a much better view of things on the high road, the low road is full of traps that are best avoided.
Matt Stewart October 4th, 2014 at 19:46
You mean, the low road is full of conservatives.
Guy Lauten October 4th, 2014 at 14:33
Yes, it is. Come and get it.
Matt Stewart October 4th, 2014 at 19:45
You always point out “liberal violent hate speech”, but seem to be oblivious to the incessant vitriolic hatred spewed by conservatives. But that’s okay, right? Because conservatives hate the right people.
Skydog2 October 4th, 2014 at 19:49
I see hate speech on both sides.
Anthony Dewayne Overall October 5th, 2014 at 16:15
that’s reality it has nothing to do with conservative or liberal, you don’t see these idiots trying to “educate” people in Watts, Compton or any other gang infested areas.
Mainah October 3rd, 2014 at 14:06
They don’t look like lawyers, though. I think he only shoots lawyers.
amwa October 3rd, 2014 at 19:02
Look like a bunch of misfits who without a gun are a bunch of wimps too dumb and ignorant to fit in the normal world and think by trying to intimidate others makes them big shots.
amwa October 3rd, 2014 at 19:02
Look like a bunch of misfits who without a gun are a bunch of wimps too dumb and ignorant to fit in the normal world and think by trying to intimidate others makes them big shots.
christianh October 3rd, 2014 at 20:49
Some how I think we all over-exaggerate the exposure of kids to gun fire… Most shootings occur when disciplined kids are asleep…
I lived in BedStuy Brooklyn for five years and saw more drug dealers than I heard gunshots…
But these idiots should catch beat down with their weapons… They’re little punks anyway… I’m sick of the drama…
Whiny little BIZNITCHES…
BaronMatrix October 3rd, 2014 at 20:49
Some how I think we all over-exaggerate the exposure of kids to gun fire… Most shootings occur when disciplined kids are asleep…
I lived in BedStuy Brooklyn for five years and saw more drug dealers than I heard gunshots…
But these idiots should catch beat down with their weapons… They’re little punks anyway… I’m sick of the drama…
Whiny little BIZNITCHES…
Raymond G. Whitham October 4th, 2014 at 03:33
They should be shot on sight!
Skydog2 October 4th, 2014 at 04:12
Typical liberal response to opposing points of view.
OldLefty October 4th, 2014 at 07:50
Skydog 2;
“Typical liberal response to opposing points of view”
______________
I would say that in the Reality Based Community;
Typical CONSERVATIVE response;
1) Focus on the 5% of the story that confirms your preconceived, desired bias while ignoring all facts that get in the way of that desired bias.
Very telling is the YouTube poster’s (not CNN’s ) headline;
“Predictably, Ferguson residents loot a liquor store” while ignoring headlines like;
Ferguson Residents Protect Stores from Looters During Police Standoff
http://gawker.com/ferguson-residents-protect-stores-from-looters-during-p-1622633871
And also;
‘Outside agitators’ worsening unrest in Ferguson, Mo.,
And who can forget THIS typical conservative response …..
The two photos from the aftermath of Katrina, where …..
Black people “loot” but white people “find” food for their family”??
http://www.urban75.org/blog/661/
That’s typical conservative racism.
Raymond G. Whitham October 12th, 2014 at 18:28
Yes, racist whites with the confederate flag marching with guns in a black community are “peaceful”. Go back to the 1950s so you can meet people that actually would believe that. People today no longer believe that, unless you’re a racist pig. Go away, Troll – you’ve been outed.
Raymond G. Whitham October 4th, 2014 at 03:33
They should be shot on sight!
Skydog2 October 4th, 2014 at 04:12
Typical liberal response to opposing points of view ….. shoot peaceful protestors but give violent looters a free pass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PpjVHbDALs
OldLefty October 4th, 2014 at 07:50
Skydog 2;
“Typical liberal response to opposing points of view”
______________
I would say that in the Reality Based Community;
Typical CONSERVATIVE response;
1) Focus on the 5% of the story that confirms your preconceived, desired bias while ignoring all facts that get in the way of that desired bias.
Very telling is the YouTube poster’s (not CNN’s ) headline;
“Predictably, Ferguson residents loot a liquor store” while ignoring headlines like;
Ferguson Residents Protect Stores from Looters During Police Standoff
http://gawker.com/ferguson-residents-protect-stores-from-looters-during-p-1622633871
And also;
‘Outside agitators’ worsening unrest in Ferguson, Mo.,
And who can forget THIS typical conservative response …..
The two photos from the aftermath of Katrina, where …..
Black people “loot” but white people “find” food for their family”??
http://www.urban75.org/blog/661/
That’s typical conservative racism.
Raymond G. Whitham October 12th, 2014 at 18:28
Yes, racist whites with the confederate flag marching with guns in a black community are “peaceful”. Go back to the 1950s so you can meet people that actually would believe that. People today no longer believe that, unless you’re a racist pig. Go away, Troll – you’ve been outed.
Skydog2 October 4th, 2014 at 04:11
“…. and that group was specifically told, “You are not welcome here.”
This is still America right, can you only protest where you’re welcome?
Joseph Blow October 5th, 2014 at 15:10
Yet whites are saying blacks aren’t welcome to protest in Ferguson. As always, one sided.
Skydog2 October 5th, 2014 at 21:30
Which whites said blacks aren’t welcome to “protest” in Ferguson?
People can’t protest anywhere they want. Rioting & looting is a different matter.
raincheck October 6th, 2014 at 08:49
Does that include the KKK?
Skydog2 October 6th, 2014 at 09:05
Yes. The KKK, New Black Panthers, and Nation of Islam are allowed to peacefully protest.
raincheck October 6th, 2014 at 09:15
And their “Peaceful Protests” were met with an appropriate response