Despite Concerns, Open Carry Group In Virginia Plans March Through Predominately Black Area Again

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An Open Carry Group in Richmond, Virginia plans a “Freedom March” on Saturday through Creighton Court, a predominately African American area. The group tried this before and it didn’t go down well. Open Carry Texas made plans to march through the 5th Ward, also a predominately black area, and that group was specifically told, “You are not welcome here.” OCT cancelled the march after being confronted by community leaders.

This group is equally obstinate.

Jason Spitzer on August 2nd.

 

Marilyn B. Olds, who has lived in Creighton Court for 50 years, was on her way home last Friday when her upset granddaughter phoned her, the Times Dispatch reports.

“Don’t come home right now,” she told her grandmother. “They’re shooting out there. There are shots all over.”

That’s not uncommon in an area stricken with violence but that’s the neighborhood the Open Carry group chose.

“That’s the environment we live in,” Olds said, who is, vice chairwoman of the board of commissioners of the Richmond Redevelopment and Housing Authority, which operates her public housing community in the city’s East End. “So why would you bring guns in to promote them?”

The march will start on Saturday at 11:30 a.m.

“I think they picked a bad area to promote guns,” Olds said. “Our young men already see enough violence, they hear enough gunshots. They hear that seven days a week.”

Michael Paul Williams of the Times Dispatch contacted the group through its Facebook page, The Right to Bear Arms Richmond.

Jason Spitzer, the organizer of the group, told Williams that he expects about five people will participate in the march, and the participants will carry unloaded “long guns.”

And that’s a good thing for Spitzer considering it is not legal to carry a loaded rifle or shotgun in the city, not to distribute leaflets.

“We spread constitutional awareness to any and all citizens or people that are willing to listen, not just about firearms but all rights,” he said.

He said that if anyone is intimidated“then come talk to us.”

“Me personally, I’m not going to walk into Creighton Court. And that is not because of the area. But we do not want to push the boundaries” of trespassing laws, he said.

Spitzer and his gang previously attended a rally in support of Michael Brown, the slain Ferguson teenager. Spitzer and his crew inadvertently threw their support in for “Chris Brown.” When an activist told that they did not know the teen’s name, Spitzer said, “I know his last name is Ferguson.”

In September, the group visited Creighton Court, which prompted calls to the police by alarmed residents in the area while the members of the group marched with rifles.

Andrew Goddard, legislative director for the Virginia Center for Public Safety, whose son is a survivor of the Virginia Tech shootings, wonders if intimidation plays a factor in the marches.

“The open-carry movement is beginning to spread and is getting bolder about where they carry their weapons,” Goddard said. “There have been numerous cases where people openly exhibit military-style rifles in public areas, like grocery stores, coffee shops and on public streets such as Cary Street. I think this is a very dangerous trend that needs to be dealt with before it becomes more widespread.”

“While I agree that there is technically a ‘right’ to do this, I am not convinced that there is a valid need, or that the display is of any benefit to either those carrying or those observing,” he said.

“What’s the difference between seeing an armed citizen walking down the street, open carry, and a police officer?” he asked.

We know who the police are. We do not know who the mostly male group of gun toting activists are. We don’t need others to educate us, especially if they are carrying weapons in a troubled area.

In addition, one of the group’s members — the only black one — changed his Facebook name to include “III,” a sign of support for the Three Percenters. Adding to that, the group has been seen carrying a Confederate Flag during protests.

Their motivation is intimidation. Also, too, the South will not ‘rise again’ and most assuredly, not from Creighton Court.

Big thanks to my source whose anonymity will be respected here.

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238 responses to Despite Concerns, Open Carry Group In Virginia Plans March Through Predominately Black Area Again

  1. M D Reese October 3rd, 2014 at 12:34

    Maybe they will accidentally get shot. Not that that would be a crying shame.

    • Pilotshark October 3rd, 2014 at 12:55

      I was thinking in the line of the gangs/thugs getting together and stand there ground.
      OC might unite a bad place.

      • granpa.usthai October 3rd, 2014 at 13:39

        I think a heavily armed UNREGULATED black militia might well be what is needed to stop the show of guns in the streets, grocery stores, pizza parlors, shopping malls, toys-r-us and other public places. I’m sure the NRA would be very happy to charge them outrageous prices, but the state of North Korea could probably give them a much better deal.

      • M D Reese October 3rd, 2014 at 16:50

        I was thinking of something along those lines.

    • granpa.usthai October 3rd, 2014 at 13:34

      who’s ever heard of anyone being shot by an unloaded gun?

      • M D Reese October 3rd, 2014 at 16:49

        “Unloaded” guns go off all the time.

  2. M D Reese October 3rd, 2014 at 12:34

    Maybe they will accidentally get shot. Not that that would be a crying shame.

    • Pilotshark October 3rd, 2014 at 12:55

      I was thinking in the line of the gangs/thugs getting together and stand there ground.
      OC might unite a bad place.

      • granpa.usthai October 3rd, 2014 at 13:39

        I think a heavily armed UNREGULATED black militia might well be what is needed to stop the show of guns in the streets, grocery stores, pizza parlors, shopping malls, toys-r-us and other public places. I’m sure the NRA would be very happy to charge them outrageous prices, but the state of North Korea could probably give them a much better deal.

      • M D Reese October 3rd, 2014 at 16:50

        I was thinking of something along those lines.

    • granpa.usthai October 3rd, 2014 at 13:34

      who’s ever heard of anyone being shot by an unloaded gun?

      • M D Reese October 3rd, 2014 at 16:49

        “Unloaded” guns go off all the time.

  3. Larry Schmitt October 3rd, 2014 at 12:35

    What are they trying to prove, carrying guns in an area where they don’t live, where the residents have not expressed an interest in open carry? I just don’t get the point of this whole exercise, except to say, “Hey, look at me and my big manly guns.”

    • Larry Schmitt October 3rd, 2014 at 13:08

      And the confederate flags don’t help either.

      • tiredoftea October 3rd, 2014 at 13:18

        I don’t know, they have the black guy for cover.

        • Khary A October 3rd, 2014 at 13:26

          I just got a telegram from the B.G.C.C. (Black Guy Central Command) and his black guy card is currently under review.

          • Khary A October 3rd, 2014 at 13:26

            and yeah we still use telegrams.

            • tiredoftea October 3rd, 2014 at 13:35

              Welcome back, BTW.

              • Khary A October 3rd, 2014 at 13:39

                Aww it’s good to be missed. I still feel the same as I did in that melancholic statement i made. So now I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind or even educate them on any issue but I have a snark gland on me that needs to be expressed from time to time. (No it’s not that, it’s actually behind the knee but you gotta believe it’s there to see it.)

                • tiredoftea October 3rd, 2014 at 18:47

                  I’ll trust you on the gland’s location.

            • Larry Schmitt October 3rd, 2014 at 13:58

              Must be the O.S.B.G.C.C.
              Old School

              • Khary A October 3rd, 2014 at 14:11

                We’re currently headed up by this guy so he insists on old tech

          • tiredoftea October 3rd, 2014 at 13:29

            Brilliant!

        • Mainah October 3rd, 2014 at 14:04

          For some reason, I was reminded of this classic movie:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxtixtZzU2c

    • granpa.usthai October 3rd, 2014 at 13:33

      hard to say, Larry. Perhaps they’ve stumbled on the remains of an antiquated British fleet in the backwaters of the Potomac?
      Weirder things than that have come out of the Eastern Virginia Swamps (note the middle figure).

  4. Larry Schmitt October 3rd, 2014 at 12:35

    What are they trying to prove, carrying guns in an area where they don’t live, where the residents have not expressed an interest in open carry? I just don’t get the point of this whole exercise, except to say, “Hey, look at me and my big manly guns.”

    • Larry Schmitt October 3rd, 2014 at 13:08

      And the confederate flags don’t help either.

    • granpa.usthai October 3rd, 2014 at 13:33

      hard to say, Larry. Perhaps they’ve stumbled on the remains of an antiquated British fleet in the backwaters of the Potomac?
      Weirder things than that have come out of the Eastern Virginia Swamps (note the middle figure).

  5. pinballsdoll October 3rd, 2014 at 12:37

    What could possibly go wrong?

    • granpa.usthai October 3rd, 2014 at 13:26

      relax! if their weapons are unloaded, nothing bad can possibly happen.

  6. pinballsdoll October 3rd, 2014 at 12:37

    What could possibly go wrong?

    • granpa.usthai October 3rd, 2014 at 13:26

      relax! if their weapons are unloaded, nothing bad can possibly happen.

  7. Mainah October 3rd, 2014 at 12:55

    They need a fashion advisor. Desperately. You can’t fix stupid but at least you can dress it up a bit. XD

    • granpa.usthai October 3rd, 2014 at 13:25

      agreed!

      pink bow ribbons around their heads would show some uniformity to the group, add a beautiful color, and help draw attention to their cause.

      • Mainah October 3rd, 2014 at 14:00

        It would but I doubt they’re down for Breast Cancer Awareness Month. ;-)

  8. Mainah October 3rd, 2014 at 12:55

    They need a fashion advisor. Desperately. You can’t fix stupid but at least you can dress it up a bit. XD

    • granpa.usthai October 3rd, 2014 at 13:25

      agreed!

      pink bow ribbons around their heads would show some uniformity to the group, add a beautiful color, and help draw attention to their cause.

      • Mainah October 3rd, 2014 at 14:00

        It would but I doubt they’re down for Breast Cancer Awareness Month. ;-)

  9. eddie1247 October 3rd, 2014 at 13:04

    Interesting looking group, but I’m wondering if combined there is the equivalent of a complete brain?

    • tiredoftea October 3rd, 2014 at 13:19

      Depends on which species of brain bearing animal you want them to add up to.

      • Larry Schmitt October 3rd, 2014 at 13:23

        You beat me to it. Squirrel, maybe? One of the dumber ones.

        • tiredoftea October 3rd, 2014 at 13:24

          Maybe slugs or worms.

          • fahvel October 4th, 2014 at 02:55

            like wise to worms and slugs.

        • fahvel October 4th, 2014 at 02:55

          insulting squirrels is not nice.

      • Skydog2 October 4th, 2014 at 04:21

        They’re nothing like the mensa group who protested in Ferguson.

  10. eddie1247 October 3rd, 2014 at 13:04

    Interesting looking group, but I’m wondering if combined there is the equivalent of a complete brain?

  11. forpeace October 3rd, 2014 at 13:05

    It is very obvious that these Open Carry crazy nuts are looking for trouble, and are trying to terrorize that neighborhood, that is exactly what terrorists do (either Foreign or Domestic).

    These are un-American anarchists are still living in the 1861-1865 American Civil War era. They need to wake up, and stop living in an alternative reality, it’s about time they come back to the real world and start living in 21st Century.

    And let go of that Confederate Flag.

  12. forpeace October 3rd, 2014 at 13:05

    It is very obvious that these Open Carry crazy nuts are looking for trouble, and are trying to terrorize that neighborhood, that is exactly what terrorists do (either Foreign or Domestic).

    These are un-American anarchists who are still living in the 1861-1865 American Civil War era. They need to wake up, and stop living in an alternative reality, it’s about time they come back to the real world and start living in 21st Century.

    And let go of that Confederate Flag.

    • Skydog2 October 4th, 2014 at 04:19

      “…… are looking for trouble”

      Unlike the beloved peaceful protestors in Ferguson who rioted, looted, and attacked police officers.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rNvhGDsGXM

      • Matt Stewart October 4th, 2014 at 19:53

        What about the residents who blocked the looters? What about the fact that many of the looters were from elsewhere? You’re just looking for justification for your hatred.

        • OldLefty October 4th, 2014 at 20:16

          What about the residents who blocked the looters?

          _______

          Why let facts get in the way?

        • Skydog2 October 4th, 2014 at 23:05

          So? Some protesters were not from Ferguson, some looters were not from Ferguson. Those thugs were looking for trouble yet so many keep making excuses for them.
          The open carry group is protesting peacefully.

  13. tiredoftea October 3rd, 2014 at 13:17

    When you’re stupid and you know it, insist on carrying your rifles.

    • Mainah October 3rd, 2014 at 15:00

      I just read that to the tune of “When your happy and you know it, clap your hands” LOL!!!!

  14. tiredoftea October 3rd, 2014 at 13:17

    When you’re stupid and you know it, insist on carrying your rifles.

    • Mainah October 3rd, 2014 at 15:00

      I just read that to the tune of “When your happy and you know it, clap your hands” LOL!!!!

  15. granpa.usthai October 3rd, 2014 at 13:19

    sigh!
    that’s one of the biggest problems in a 21st century armed uprising isn’t it?
    come into an area where you, the outsider, only wants to make them aware of their ‘rights’ -even when not requested. Kinda makes you out to be the armed TYRANT!

    BUT!

    times being as crazy as they are…

    saw a lady heading north on I-95 outside Savannah wearing a red top in a vehicle with New Jersey tags. Don’t know if she was British or not (kinda hard to carry on a conversation from different vehicles with the windows rolled up – at +70MPH in passing).

    Might want to see if any of the state line church steeples has a single candle burning?

  16. granpa.usthai October 3rd, 2014 at 13:19

    sigh!
    that’s one of the biggest problems in a 21st century armed uprising isn’t it?
    come into an area where you, the outsider, only wants to make them aware of their ‘rights’ -even when not requested. Kinda makes you out to be the armed TYRANT!

    BUT!

    times being as crazy as they are…

    saw a lady heading north on I-95 outside Savannah wearing a red top in a vehicle with New Jersey tags. Don’t know if she was British or not (kinda hard to carry on a conversation from different vehicles with the windows rolled up – at +70MPH in passing).

    Might want to see if any of the state line church steeples has a single candle burning?

  17. forpeace October 3rd, 2014 at 13:28

    Gang members do the same exact thing as Open Carry groups do.

    They go to certain neighborhoods to terrorize people.

    I do not see any difference between gangs and open carry.

    Both of them are thugs.

    • Khary A October 3rd, 2014 at 13:29

      Agreed, in fact did you notice the “gang signs” the guy was flashing? Why is it that there arent 50 cops surrounding them and an army of right wing reporters using thinly veiled racially driven comments to describe them?

      • forpeace October 3rd, 2014 at 13:32

        If you check their websites, they are trying so hard to deny that gang members are not interested in Open Carry activities!

        They know very well that some of their members are gang members otherwise, why trying so hard to deny that.

        • Khary A October 3rd, 2014 at 13:43

          Gee whiz, a group that is subtly protected by factions of law enforcement. Those same guys who are always trying to catch me doing stuff now look the other way when I walk around with this group? Where do I sign up?

  18. forpeace October 3rd, 2014 at 13:28

    Gang members do the same exact thing as Open Carry groups do.

    They go to certain neighborhoods to terrorize people.

    I do not see any difference between gangs and open carry.

    All of them are thugs.

    • The last of the Thousad Sons October 3rd, 2014 at 13:29

      Agreed, in fact did you notice the “gang signs” the guy was flashing? Why is it that there arent 50 cops surrounding them and an army of right wing reporters using thinly veiled racially driven comments to describe them?

      • forpeace October 3rd, 2014 at 13:32

        If you check their websites, they are trying so hard to deny that gang members are not interested in Open Carry activities!

        They know very well that some of their members are gang members otherwise, why trying so hard to deny that.

        • The last of the Thousad Sons October 3rd, 2014 at 13:43

          Gee whiz, a group that is subtly protected by factions of law enforcement. Those same guys who are always trying to catch me doing stuff now look the other way when I walk around with this group? Where do I sign up?

  19. Abby Normal October 3rd, 2014 at 13:31

    Maybe Dick Cheney will march with them and accidentally eliminate a few of them. Idiots.

    • tiredoftea October 3rd, 2014 at 13:36

      Not a chance, Darth only shoots campaign contributors.

      • granpa.usthai October 3rd, 2014 at 13:51

        I thought it was BFF’s only? I mean, if a BFF shot me in the face with a shotgun, I’d probably want to agree with whatever he said – at least until somebody took the damn shotgun away!

    • Mainah October 3rd, 2014 at 14:06

      They don’t look like lawyers, though. I think he only shoots lawyers.

  20. forpeace October 3rd, 2014 at 13:35

    Why aren’t these people even working?

    Where do they get the money from?

    Are they using government social programs to live on?

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