A hat tip to our good friends at AATTP and YouTube user Wango Tango. The Ferguson PD has a lot of explaining to do.
Ferguson police’s attempts to demonize Michael Brown, the unarmed African-American teen killed by Officer Darren Wilson, may have hit a small snag. The very video they released at the same time as they identified Wilson as the officer responsible for shooting Brown six times, including twice in the head, may show the opposite of what they…
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Neezy August 21st, 2014 at 14:03
I’ve watched this about 10x and it doesn’t look like he paid for anything here to me. LOL
Looks like he even offered the random female a few of the ones he snatched from behind the counter. Fail!
Nicholas Russell Harris August 21st, 2014 at 14:47
So because of what you “see” (which I doubt your eyes are functioning right) he deserves to be shot? I guess this means thieves, liars, and any other criminals now need to be executed, but only if they are black!
I am guesaing you watch Fox News and vote Republican?
wildbill357 August 21st, 2014 at 14:58
I don’t think ANYONE has definitively proved that the store incident and the shooting were related. I heard the cop stopped Brown and his friend because they were in the middle of the street. Again, only a madman would jump to conclusions and make accusations without evidence!
R.J. Carter August 21st, 2014 at 15:46
Exactly. The shooting was not because of the alleged robbery. The robbery itself is only relevant because it could set the narrative for later actions — i.e. how Brown may or may not have been acting around an officer confronting him for one thing if he had just committed a crime a few minutes prior.
Nicholas Russell Harris August 21st, 2014 at 16:45
You failed to answer my question friend, for any of those crimes (actual or supposed) did he DESERVE to be SHOT???
Isiah Abraham August 21st, 2014 at 19:07
You stated: “You failed to answer my question friend, for any of those crimes (actual or supposed) did he DESERVE to be SHOT???”
First of all, that decision is first and foremost one that is made by the officer at the scene. Evidently, based on his judgment, he felt that Mr. Brown deserved to be shot. Now was his judgment just or right? Well, that’s what we are trying to find out.
Secondly, If I were the officer at the scene, and if it is indeed the case that Mr. Brown attacked the officer and tried to take away the officer’s weapon (as has been reported), then I would probably have made the same decision as Mr. Wilson.
Now, whether you like it or not, police officers are first and foremost citizens, so they do not give up their right to self-defense just because they are “police officers.” Therefore, just like Mr. Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin case, if a police officer believes that his life is in danger, then he can defend himself with the force necessary to remove that danger.
Thirdly, let me ask you: Do you believe that the officer deserved to be killed?
Nicholas Russell Harris August 21st, 2014 at 19:35
One of my best friends, Mike Lewis is a cop in Oklahoma. (They carry cattle prods out there inatead of tasers, crazy right?) I thank the stars he puts his life on the line. For every bad cop there are ten more doing the right thing, and protecting us all, that is what I believe.
For some reason I doubt the story as truthful due to the time it took to come out. Having been a victim of police corruption myself and fasle accusations (which resulted in the loss of his job) I am always slow to believe a story that aurfaces long after the fact. That being said if he was “beaten” which I doubt he was, then yes deadly force was needed.
Mr. Zimmerman was no officer nor was he supposed to have a gun so THAT point is invalid, and he was told NOT TO FOLLOW OR SHOOT. Which he did, also making the point invalid.
No one deservea to die in a manner auch as this, and no the cop didn’t deserve to die either (if his story was correct and not concocted later).
But I digress. You STILL dodged my question though, did this young man deserve death??? Yes or no?
tweezy August 22nd, 2014 at 10:10
Nobody deserves to die! But at the same time, when you break the law (such as stealing from a store and pushing the clerk and then fighting with a cop, and then running from a cop…. all of which are highly illegal. And the cop was beaten because even the doctors said he was very clear that he had just been beaten based on the injuries the cop had…. a swollen face and a fractured eye socket) you get whatever the hell comes you way. It’s very said that someone lost there life but I have no sympathy whatsoever for someone who behaves like this. If you dont want to get shot then obey the law.
If Brown didn’t break the law (multiple times within just a few hours) then he never would have been shot. He brought this on himself.
Nicholas Russell Harris August 22nd, 2014 at 11:10
Where is the proof he was beaten? Wherr are the photos of his injuries? The interviews with witnesses that were at the scene go a long way towards discrediting what the police say
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 10:45
What officer did Mike Brown kill? Who was the person that had a gun and fired it off? Really? All the excuses you seem to make, just make you more ignorant and trying so hard to justify the actions of an officer who clearly needed more training. Basically you just testified that Officer Wilson killed Mike Brown after failing to take the officers gun and then fleeing. At that point Officer Wilson made the decision to kill Brown as revenge for trying to take his weapon? Sorry but that still doesn’t make justifiable homicide. But we’re suppose believe that Officer Wilson is so scared and fearful that as Brown is fleeing the scene he is still able to raise his gun, aim it at Brown and pull the trigger multiple time hitting Brown at least 6 times. Well, I don’t really want my taxes going to hire people that are so easily fearful and make irrational, unprofessional mistakes that cost the lives of citizens. They are not above the law and Officer Wilson should have been indicted soon after not weeks later and not after days of protest asking for his indictment. Wilson needs to be accountable for his actions.
Isiah Abraham August 27th, 2014 at 19:31
You state: “What officer did Mike Brown kill?”
Was the officer supposed to wait until after Mike Brown had
killed him? Is that your point? And if it is, why? Why do you think it appropriate for the officer to wait to react until after Mr. Brown has killed him? In fact, why would you even entertain the idea that the police officer is supposed to wait to
react only after he has died? If having already been attacked (as has been alleged in this case), is that what you would have done? Would you have waited until after you have been killed before you would react?
2. You state: “Who was the person that had a gun and fired
it off?”
According to reports, that would be the police officer. What is your point? Is the fact that the officer fired the gun supposed to make us ignore the fact that it has been reported that Mr. Brown physically attacked the police officer?
Secondly, what do you think that a police officer’s gun is
for? Is it not for the purpose of firing? Or do you believe that those guns are simply there to decorate and accentuate the waist?
3. You state: “Really? All the excuses you seem to make,
just make you more ignorant and trying so hard to justify the actions of an officer who clearly needed more training.”
Since it would seem that all the excuses that have been made
for those in the Black community has allowed them to grow ever more ignorant, methinks that you may have me confused with those in the Black community who are in need of “more training.”
Secondly, speaking of excuses and training, how about all
the excuses that are being made for Mr. Brown? Why are you trying so hard to justify the actions of an individual
who, if we are to believe the reports, clearly needed more decorum and training?
4. You state: “Basically you just testified that Officer Wilson killed Mike Brown after failing to take the officers gun and then fleeing.”
No, this is what was actually stated: “If I were the officer at the scene, and if it is indeed the case that Mr. Brown attacked the officer and tried to take away the officer’s weapon (as has been reported), then I would probably have made the same decision as Mr. Wilson.” So I did not say that Officer Wilson
killed Mike Brown after failing to take away his gun from himself. Why, when that makes absolutely very little sense, would I say that Officer Brown tried to take the gun from himself?
5. You state, “At that point Officer Wilson made the
decision to kill Brown as revenge for trying to take his weapon?”
Okay. What’s your point?
Secondly, if “revenge” against Mr. Wilson is what you now
seek, then what’s wrong with “revenge?” Are you the only one who is entitled to seek “revenge?” Is that some specific right that only you are allowed to exercise? If so, why?
Thirdly, why is it not the case that Officer Wilson made the
decision to kill Mr. Brown because the act of attacking Officer Wilson and trying to take away his gun had shown Officer Wilson that Mr. Brown was a threat to, not only Officer Wilson, but anyone else?
6. You state; “Sorry but that still doesn’t make justifiable
homicide. “
Yes, we know. Your revenge only makes for the justifiable
prosecution and destruction of a White officer who supposedly kills an “innocent gentle giant” who did not rob a store and who did not attack the officer.
7. You state: “But we’re suppose believe that Officer Wilson
is so scared and fearful that as Brown is fleeing the scene he is still able to raise his gun, aim it at Brown and pull the trigger multiple time hitting Brown at least 6 times”
Well, I don’t know why you would believe that when it has
been reported that, Michael Brown charged back at the police officer, at which time the officer pulled the trigger and hit Mr. Brown at least 6 times. When the report from the autopsies say that Mr. Brown was shot from the front, why would you still insist on believing that Mr. Brown was running away when he was shot? Or is it your belief that Mr. Brown was “fleeing” the officer by running backwards?
8. You said: “Well, I don’t really want my taxes going to hire people that are so easily fearful and make irrational, unprofessional mistakes that cost the lives of citizens.”
Well, since, according to you, Mr. Wilson shot
and killed Mr. Brown out of revenge or on purpose, then, in this case, you don’t have to worry about your taxes “going to hire people that are so easily fearful and
make irrational, unprofessional mistakes that cost the lives of citizens.”
Secondly, since Mr. Wilson is himself a citizen, can you
tell us how you feel about your taxes going towards citizens that make “irrational and unprofessional” decisions that cost the lives of other citizens? Or is that not as important to you?
9. You say, “They are not above the law and Officer Wilson
should have been indicted soon after not weeks later and not after days of protest asking for his indictment.”
Well, what are the rules for an Officer involved
shooting? Can you please bring us the rules that govern the procedures involved in an Officer involved shooting and
show us how, in this case, Mr. Wilson has been placed above the rules?
10. You say, “ Wilson needs to be accountable for his
actions.”
And what unfulfilled trust or violated obligation does Mr.
Wilson need to be “held accountable” for? I am still waiting to hear it.
GrannyBug August 30th, 2014 at 17:48
I wish I could “like” your post a million times! Way to go! Sadly, I believe it will fall on deaf ears. It is easier for him/her to continue with their hatred and racism than it is for him/her to do true research on their own and find the facts for themselves instead of some Facebook meme. Kudos to you!
tweezy August 22nd, 2014 at 09:59
here’s an answer to your question dumbass…..
First off, you are clearly racist because you brought up the idea that “its ok for you to be shot if you’re black”. You lowlifes always try pulling the race card every single chance you can get.
the officer had to be taken to the hospital because the entire side of his face was swollen and doctors declared that he was beaten nearly unconscious AND he had a fractured eye socket.
So in other words, he was beaten by Brown, and hard too! Bruises and swelling up like that do not come easily. It takes a lot of intentional force to the head for that to happen, ESPECIALLY to cause a fracture!!
Nobody deserves to die, but if you rob a place, and then walk down the street and fight with a cop then you deserve whatever the hell comes your way. I feel no sympathy whatsoever for people like that!!
Dont steal and dont be a thug and dont bust somebody’s face in, and respect the law and police officer’s and you’ll be fine. If Brown had behaved like we are required to by law then he would still be alive. He caused his own death!! The damn low life community needs to stop trying to blame others
tweezy August 22nd, 2014 at 10:04
And another thing…. yea, the robbery and then the officer stopping Brown on the street are probably 2 completely different things and are probably unrelated.
But the robbery (which the surveillance tape proves he did it and even if there was no camera then you still have the store clerk and several eyewitnesses claiming that he stole from the store). And like I was saying, they are probably unrelated but the theft just further proves that when talking about Brown we are dealing with a low life thug.
Get a fucking job and he wouldn’t need to steal and wouldn’t be walking in the middle of the street during the day….he should be at work instead
And who the hell walks down the road in the middle of the street? ….low lifes who think they can do whatever they want. Hince the whole stealing because he wanted to
wildbill357 September 4th, 2014 at 11:42
With that logic, Nick, no one DESERVES to be shot! YES, there are most definitely incidents everyday where lethal force is justifiable and USED and rightly so! Cops have one of the toughest jobs in the world putting up with gangsters, thugs, punks and everyday riff raff whose duty it is to break any every law that stops them from carrying on their “business”. They are trained and practice that exercise regularly and YOU PAY THEM TO DO IT! The fact that you now question the cop in this instance is your choice. It happened all the same and will continue to do so whether or not YOU think it was appropriate or not. YOU, in fact, don’t know what happened any more than I do BUT will, in the end, will be forced to accept the adjudication of it by someone who also was not there! That’s the way it works….or is supposed to. The process gets bastardized by people with an agenda unduly influencing the judicial process and not allowing it to take its course. Those who, including you, interject their unfounded perception of racism or accusations of same into a situation further inflamed by “outsiders” (pronounced Jackson, Sharpton and Holder) allow the true crime to take place! That is the subornation of justice and is the very thing that destroys our judicial systems effectiveness. Le the system work as it was intended. The same way it did in State vs. Simpson and State vs. Zimmerman. You may not like the outcome but it IS the way it works in both cases and will in this one, hopefully, in spite of a lynch mob mentality that you seem to be a part of.
Neezy August 22nd, 2014 at 11:28
Stop putting words in other people’s mouths, or their comments for that matter. I never said he “deserved to be shot,” dipshit AND if he never took anything, why did the store clerk pursue him TO the front door in other surveillance videos, as if he was trying to keep him from leaving? A known tactic of someone who is keeping someone from leaving a store with unpaid items.
Yeah, I’ll wait…
Nicholas Russell Harris August 22nd, 2014 at 11:51
Then perhaps you should clarify, because it sure seems like you are suggesting he deserved to be shot. So are we shooting thieves now then? Have we returned to the days of Ancient Rome or Egypt where we take hands or in a case like this, the very lives of an offender? What sort of barbaric society have we become?
But I digress. You still didn’t answer a single one of my questions.
Neezy August 21st, 2014 at 14:03
I’ve watched this about 10x and it doesn’t look like he paid for anything here to me. LOL
Looks like he even offered the random female a few of the ones he snatched from behind the counter. Fail!
Nicholas Russell Harris August 21st, 2014 at 14:47
So because of what you “see” (which I doubt your eyes are functioning right) he deserves to be shot? I guess this means thieves, liars, and any other criminals now need to be executed, but only if they are black!
I am guessing you watch Fox News and vote Republican?
wildbill357 August 21st, 2014 at 14:58
I don’t think ANYONE has definitively proved that the store incident and the shooting were related. I heard the cop stopped Brown and his friend because they were in the middle of the street. Again, only a madman would jump to conclusions and make accusations without evidence!
R.J. Carter August 21st, 2014 at 15:46
Exactly. The shooting was not because of the alleged robbery. The robbery itself is only relevant because it could set the narrative for later actions — i.e. how Brown may or may not have been acting around an officer confronting him for one thing if he had just committed a crime a few minutes prior.
Nicholas Russell Harris August 21st, 2014 at 16:45
You failed to answer my question friend, for any of those crimes (actual or supposed) did he DESERVE to be SHOT???
Isiah Abraham August 21st, 2014 at 19:07
You stated: “You failed to answer my question friend, for any of those crimes (actual or supposed) did he DESERVE to be SHOT???”
First of all, that decision is first and foremost one that is made by the officer at the scene. Evidently, based on his judgment, he felt that Mr. Brown deserved to be shot. Now was his judgment just or right? Well, that’s what we are trying to find out.
Secondly, If I were the officer at the scene, and if it is indeed the case that Mr. Brown attacked the officer and tried to take away the officer’s weapon (as has been reported), then I would probably have made the same decision as Mr. Wilson.
Now, whether you like it or not, police officers are first and foremost citizens, so they do not give up their right to self-defense just because they are “police officers.” Therefore, just like Mr. Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin case, if a police officer believes that his life is in danger, then he can defend himself with the force necessary to remove that danger.
Thirdly, let me ask you: Do you believe that the officer deserved to be killed?
Nicholas Russell Harris August 21st, 2014 at 19:35
One of my best friends, Mike Lewis is a cop in Oklahoma. (They carry cattle prods out there inatead of tasers, crazy right?) I thank the stars he puts his life on the line. For every bad cop there are ten more doing the right thing, and protecting us all, that is what I believe.
For some reason I doubt the story as truthful due to the time it took to come out. Having been a victim of police corruption myself and fasle accusations (which resulted in the loss of his job) I am always slow to believe a story that aurfaces long after the fact. That being said if he was “beaten” which I doubt he was, then yes deadly force was needed.
Mr. Zimmerman was no officer nor was he supposed to have a gun so THAT point is invalid, and he was told NOT TO FOLLOW OR SHOOT. Which he did, also making the point invalid.
No one deservea to die in a manner auch as this, and no the cop didn’t deserve to die either (if his story was correct and not concocted later).
But I digress. You STILL dodged my question though, did this young man deserve death??? Yes or no?
tweezy August 22nd, 2014 at 10:10
Nobody deserves to die! But at the same time, when you break the law (such as stealing from a store and pushing the clerk and then fighting with a cop, and then running from a cop…. all of which are highly illegal. And the cop was beaten because even the doctors said he was very clear that he had just been beaten based on the injuries the cop had…. a swollen face and a fractured eye socket) you get whatever the hell comes you way. It’s very said that someone lost there life but I have no sympathy whatsoever for someone who behaves like this. If you dont want to get shot then obey the law.
If Brown didn’t break the law (multiple times within just a few hours) then he never would have been shot. He brought this on himself.
Nicholas Russell Harris August 22nd, 2014 at 11:10
Where is the proof he was beaten? Where are the photos of his injuries? The interviews with witnesses that were at the scene go a long way towards discrediting what the police say
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 10:45
What officer did Mike Brown kill? Who was the person that had a gun and fired it off? Really? All the excuses you seem to make, just make you more ignorant and trying so hard to justify the actions of an officer who clearly needed more training. Basically you just testified that Officer Wilson killed Mike Brown after failing to take the officers gun and then fleeing. At that point Officer Wilson made the decision to kill Brown as revenge for trying to take his weapon? Sorry but that still doesn’t make justifiable homicide. But we’re suppose believe that Officer Wilson is so scared and fearful that as Brown is fleeing the scene he is still able to raise his gun, aim it at Brown and pull the trigger multiple time hitting Brown at least 6 times. Well, I don’t really want my taxes going to hire people that are so easily fearful and make irrational, unprofessional mistakes that cost the lives of citizens. They are not above the law and Officer Wilson should have been indicted soon after not weeks later and not after days of protest asking for his indictment. Wilson needs to be accountable for his actions.
Isiah Abraham August 27th, 2014 at 19:31
You state: “What officer did Mike Brown kill?”
Was the officer supposed to wait until after Mike Brown had
killed him? Is that your point? And if it is, why? Why do you think it appropriate for the officer to wait to react until after Mr. Brown has killed him? In fact, why would you even entertain the idea that the police officer is supposed to wait to
react only after he has died? If having already been attacked (as has been alleged in this case), is that what you would have done? Would you have waited until after you have been killed before you would react?
2. You state: “Who was the person that had a gun and fired
it off?”
According to reports, that would be the police officer. What is your point? Is the fact that the officer fired the gun supposed to make us ignore the fact that it has been reported that Mr. Brown physically attacked the police officer?
Secondly, what do you think that a police officer’s gun is
for? Is it not for the purpose of firing? Or do you believe that those guns are simply there to decorate and accentuate the waist?
3. You state: “Really? All the excuses you seem to make,
just make you more ignorant and trying so hard to justify the actions of an officer who clearly needed more training.”
Since it would seem that all the excuses that have been made
for those in the Black community has allowed them to grow ever more ignorant, methinks that you may have me confused with those in the Black community who are in need of “more training.”
Secondly, speaking of excuses and training, how about all
the excuses that are being made for Mr. Brown? Why are you trying so hard to justify the actions of an individual
who, if we are to believe the reports, clearly needed more decorum and training?
4. You state: “Basically you just testified that Officer Wilson killed Mike Brown after failing to take the officers gun and then fleeing.”
No, this is what was actually stated: “If I were the officer at the scene, and if it is indeed the case that Mr. Brown attacked the officer and tried to take away the officer’s weapon (as has been reported), then I would probably have made the same decision as Mr. Wilson.” So I did not say that Officer Wilson
killed Mike Brown after failing to take away his gun from himself. Why, when that makes absolutely very little sense, would I say that Officer Brown tried to take the gun from himself?
5. You state, “At that point Officer Wilson made the
decision to kill Brown as revenge for trying to take his weapon?”
Okay. What’s your point?
Secondly, if “revenge” against Mr. Wilson is what you now
seek, then what’s wrong with “revenge?” Are you the only one who is entitled to seek “revenge?” Is that some specific right that only you are allowed to exercise? If so, why?
Thirdly, why is it not the case that Officer Wilson made the
decision to kill Mr. Brown because the act of attacking Officer Wilson and trying to take away his gun had shown Officer Wilson that Mr. Brown was a threat to, not only Officer Wilson, but anyone else?
6. You state; “Sorry but that still doesn’t make justifiable
homicide. “
Yes, we know. Your revenge only makes for the justifiable
prosecution and destruction of a White officer who supposedly kills an “innocent gentle giant” who did not rob a store and who did not attack the officer.
7. You state: “But we’re suppose believe that Officer Wilson
is so scared and fearful that as Brown is fleeing the scene he is still able to raise his gun, aim it at Brown and pull the trigger multiple time hitting Brown at least 6 times”
Well, I don’t know why you would believe that when it has
been reported that, Michael Brown charged back at the police officer, at which time the officer pulled the trigger and hit Mr. Brown at least 6 times. When the report from the autopsies say that Mr. Brown was shot from the front, why would you still insist on believing that Mr. Brown was running away when he was shot? Or is it your belief that Mr. Brown was “fleeing” the officer by running backwards?
8. You said: “Well, I don’t really want my taxes going to hire people that are so easily fearful and make irrational, unprofessional mistakes that cost the lives of citizens.”
Well, since, according to you, Mr. Wilson shot
and killed Mr. Brown out of revenge or on purpose, then, in this case, you don’t have to worry about your taxes “going to hire people that are so easily fearful and
make irrational, unprofessional mistakes that cost the lives of citizens.”
Secondly, since Mr. Wilson is himself a citizen, can you
tell us how you feel about your taxes going towards citizens that make “irrational and unprofessional” decisions that cost the lives of other citizens? Or is that not as important to you?
9. You say, “They are not above the law and Officer Wilson
should have been indicted soon after not weeks later and not after days of protest asking for his indictment.”
Well, what are the rules for an Officer involved
shooting? Can you please bring us the rules that govern the procedures involved in an Officer involved shooting and
show us how, in this case, Mr. Wilson has been placed above the rules?
10. You say, “ Wilson needs to be accountable for his
actions.”
And what unfulfilled trust or violated obligation does Mr.
Wilson need to be “held accountable” for? I am still waiting to hear it.
GrannyBug August 30th, 2014 at 17:48
I wish I could “like” your post a million times! Way to go! Sadly, I believe it will fall on deaf ears. It is easier for him/her to continue with their hatred and racism than it is for him/her to do true research on their own and find the facts for themselves instead of some Facebook meme. Kudos to you!
wildbill357 September 4th, 2014 at 11:42
With that logic, Nick, no one DESERVES to be shot! YES, there are most definitely incidents everyday where lethal force is justifiable and USED and rightly so! Cops have one of the toughest jobs in the world putting up with gangsters, thugs, punks and everyday riff raff whose duty it is to break any every law that stops them from carrying on their “business”. They are trained and practice that exercise regularly and YOU PAY THEM TO DO IT! The fact that you now question the cop in this instance is your choice. It happened all the same and will continue to do so whether or not YOU think it was appropriate or not. YOU, in fact, don’t know what happened any more than I do BUT will, in the end, will be forced to accept the adjudication of it by someone who also was not there! That’s the way it works….or is supposed to. The process gets bastardized by people with an agenda unduly influencing the judicial process and not allowing it to take its course. Those who, including you, interject their unfounded perception of racism or accusations of same into a situation further inflamed by “outsiders” (pronounced Jackson, Sharpton and Holder) allow the true crime to take place! That is the subornation of justice and is the very thing that destroys our judicial systems effectiveness. Le the system work as it was intended. The same way it did in State vs. Simpson and State vs. Zimmerman. You may not like the outcome but it IS the way it works in both cases and will in this one, hopefully, in spite of a lynch mob mentality that you seem to be a part of.
Neezy August 22nd, 2014 at 11:28
Stop putting words in other people’s mouths, or their comments for that matter. I never said he “deserved to be shot,” AND if he never took anything, why did the store clerk pursue him TO the front door in other surveillance videos, as if he was trying to keep him from leaving? A known tactic of someone who is keeping someone from leaving a store with unpaid items.
Yeah, I’ll wait…
Nicholas Russell Harris August 22nd, 2014 at 11:51
Then perhaps you should clarify, because it sure seems like you are suggesting he deserved to be shot. So are we shooting thieves now then? Have we returned to the days of Ancient Rome or Egypt where we take hands or in a case like this, the very lives of an offender? What sort of barbaric society have we become?
But I digress. You still didn’t answer a single one of my questions.
wildbill357 August 21st, 2014 at 14:55
so lets see…first the strong armed robbery accusation had nothing to do with the murder and the Ferguson PD was racis’ for releasing it and now you’re saying that’s it’s okay to release it because your interpretation of what happened at the counter although you can’t see Brown pay for anything) is proof that there was no crime. Why did the cashier come around the counter and, apparently, leave the till unmanned? To open the door for Brown as a courtesy? Why can’t you let the investigators do their job before you form an opinion about what REALLY happened??
wildbill357 August 21st, 2014 at 14:55
so lets see…first the strong armed robbery accusation had nothing to do with the murder and the Ferguson PD was racis’ for releasing it and now you’re saying that’s it’s okay to release it because your interpretation of what happened at the counter although you can’t see Brown pay for anything) is proof that there was no crime. Why did the cashier come around the counter and, apparently, leave the till unmanned? To open the door for Brown as a courtesy? Why can’t you let the investigators do their job before you form an opinion about what REALLY happened??
wildbill357 August 21st, 2014 at 15:56
Let’s see what the toxicology reports tell us. I believe he was under the influence of drugs as his insane behavior indicates, to me at least.
Lawrence August 21st, 2014 at 16:06
Maybe you’re on drugs.
Inquiring minds want to know.
wildbill357 August 21st, 2014 at 15:56
Let’s see what the toxicology reports tell us. I believe he was under the influence of drugs as his insane behavior indicates, to me at least.
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 16:24
Because the media chooses not to focus on the good people trying to do the right thing, they only stroke the fired on the negative
True Grit August 21st, 2014 at 17:09
Bottom line is he paid for the darn cigars, and got shot six times, two of the times in the head…for walking in the middle of the street. Protest ON! It is well deserved. NO ONE from the store staff called the police to report a robbery. It’s all part of the bogus cover-up, along with the claim that he beat the officer in the face. An independent autopsy showed no trauma to Michael Browns hands consistent with a scuffle. The officer’s DNA would have been all over his knuckles (eye juice), if Brown broke his eye socket and swelled his face. Same bogus frame up like Zimmerman.
Jason Neal August 21st, 2014 at 17:27
Kindly look up facts instead of making up your own. The police report filed by the manager disagrees with you:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/ferguson-police-report
Isiah Abraham August 21st, 2014 at 18:51
You say: “Kindly look up facts instead of making up your own. The police report filed by the manager disagrees with you”
Don’t you know that that involves too much work? It’s much easier to sit back and make up your own.
R.J. Carter August 22nd, 2014 at 13:41
Thanks for that link. Up until now I was being led to believe the store manager had done nothing.
tweezy August 22nd, 2014 at 09:55
“eye juice”…. are you completely a retarded low life sticking up for a thug or are you just a dumb ass. You don’t know what you’re talking about. There is a very, very small chance that Brown would have any of the officer’s DNA on his hands after beating the officer. Learn a little bit about science and you would know that.
True Grit August 21st, 2014 at 17:09
Bottom line is he paid for the darn cigars, and got shot six times, two of the times in the head…for walking in the middle of the street. Protest ON! It is well deserved. NO ONE from the store staff called the police to report a robbery. It’s all part of the bogus cover-up, along with the claim that he beat the officer in the face. An independent autopsy showed no trauma to Michael Brown’s hands consistent with a scuffle. The officer’s DNA would have been all over his knuckles (eye juice), if Brown broke his eye socket and swelled his face. Same bogus frame up like Zimmerman.
Jason Neal August 21st, 2014 at 17:27
Kindly look up facts instead of making up your own. The police report filed by the manager disagrees with you:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/ferguson-police-report
Isiah Abraham August 21st, 2014 at 18:51
You say: “Kindly look up facts instead of making up your own. The police report filed by the manager disagrees with you”
Don’t you know that that involves too much work? It’s much easier to sit back and make up your own.
R.J. Carter August 22nd, 2014 at 13:41
Thanks for that link. Up until now I was being led to believe the store manager had done nothing.
Jason Neal August 21st, 2014 at 17:16
This will undoubtadely get deleted since every other comment here is deleted as well but I’ll say it anyways: Would you care sir to look up the actual police report FILED BY THE CLERK regarding the incident? No? Very well, I’ll look it up for you: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/ferguson-police-report
Try reading all 5 pages. (If your attention span lasts that long any ways)
Obviously the owner will deny anything and everything involving Mike Brown. His store has already been looted and he and his employees have received death threats. Do you really think his attorney is going to suggest he says “Yes, we called the cops.”?
This is of course completely separate from the tragic events that transpired 10 minutes later but seriously dude, don’t keep trying to make him a saint. There’s a mountain of evidence that says he committed the strong armed robbery.
Also, try writing your own shit instead of copy-pasting someone else’s controversial BS.
If you’re gonna blow wind, blow your own instead of plagiarizing that too.
I’ve seen 4 different copies of this “News” that read word for word the exact same from “different” authors.
Jason Neal August 21st, 2014 at 17:16
This will undoubtadely get deleted since every other comment here is deleted as well but I’ll say it anyways: Would you care sir to look up the actual police report FILED BY THE CLERK regarding the incident? No? Very well, I’ll look it up for you: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/ferguson-police-report
Try reading all 5 pages. (If your attention span lasts that long any ways)
Obviously the owner will deny anything and everything involving Mike Brown. His store has already been looted and he and his employees have received death threats. Do you really think his attorney is going to suggest he says “Yes, we called the cops.”?
This is of course completely separate from the tragic events that transpired 10 minutes later but seriously dude, don’t keep trying to make him a saint. There’s a mountain of evidence that says he committed the strong armed robbery.
Also, try writing your own shit instead of copy-pasting someone else’s controversial BS.
If you’re gonna blow wind, blow your own instead of plagiarizing that too.
I’ve seen 4 different copies of this “News” that read word for word the exact same from “different” authors.
James August 21st, 2014 at 21:06
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/unarmed-white-man-killed-by-black-cop-heres-how-the-media-reacted
WSHH Top Comments August 21st, 2014 at 22:45
If you believe this story then your just as delusional as the rest. How can you be so gullible as to let an article convince you something else happened when you see it with your own eyes? The man robbed the store get over it
Sam August 22nd, 2014 at 02:30
Again, robbery requires force and taking monetary assets. Ie money. What Michael MAY have done is shoplifted. But of course you don’t care because it isn’t you. I suggest getting an education and thinking for yourself
WSHH Top Comments August 21st, 2014 at 22:45
If you believe this story then your just as delusional as the rest. How can you be so gullible as to let an article convince you something else happened when you see it with your own eyes? The man robbed the store get over it
Sam August 22nd, 2014 at 02:30
Again, robbery requires force and taking monetary assets. Ie money. What Michael MAY have done is shoplifted. But of course you don’t care because it isn’t you. I suggest getting an education and thinking for yourself
WSHH Top Comments August 21st, 2014 at 22:52
Oh and let’s not forget that the friend admitted to robbing the store. So what’s he lying too? On his own self?
Sam August 22nd, 2014 at 02:28
The friend said they shoplifted. Robbing a store requires that you take the monetary assets which neither didn’t do. The shop owner never called the police. And this article isn’t the first to report that. Secondly, if they did rob the store why didn’t the police arrest him? Why would he just let him go if they robbed the store? Oh that’s right because he didnt. Are u one of those people who can’t think for themselves?
R.J. Carter August 22nd, 2014 at 13:39
You mean why haven’t they arrested Dorian Johnson for it?
Maybe because arresting him would then mirandize him, and he’d have the right to remain silent, thus taking away an avenue of testimony from the police investigation?
Sam August 24th, 2014 at 12:09
No my dad is a cop. And like he said….If they really committed the crime he would’ve been arrested. They still would’ve had the testimony they needed because the pressure of prison would’ve cracked him. Also, why are the owners of the store in question now stating they never called the police or that theyweren’t pressing charges because it wasn’t Mike Brown who shoplifted. Why is there now video showing Mike Brown PAYING for his cigarillos? Come man! Make it make sense!
R.J. Carter August 25th, 2014 at 10:11
But the video doesn’t show him paying for it. Only the headline says that, and the headline is incorrect.
HauteTrue ModelChic Barbie Mat December 29th, 2014 at 01:19
N0 HE DIDNT…
WSHH Top Comments August 21st, 2014 at 22:52
Oh and let’s not forget that the friend admitted to robbing the store. So what’s he lying too? On his own self?
Sam August 22nd, 2014 at 02:28
The friend said they shoplifted. Robbing a store requires that you take the monetary assets which neither didn’t do. The shop owner never called the police. And this article isn’t the first to report that. Secondly, if they did rob the store why didn’t the police arrest him? Why would he just let him go if they robbed the store? Oh that’s right because he didnt. Are u one of those people who can’t think for themselves?
R.J. Carter August 22nd, 2014 at 13:39
You mean why haven’t they arrested Dorian Johnson for it?
Maybe because arresting him would then mirandize him, and he’d have the right to remain silent, thus taking away an avenue of testimony from the police investigation?
Sam August 24th, 2014 at 12:09
No my dad is a cop. And like he said….If they really committed the crime he would’ve been arrested. They still would’ve had the testimony they needed because the pressure of prison would’ve cracked him. Also, why are the owners of the store in question now stating they never called the police or that theyweren’t pressing charges because it wasn’t Mike Brown who shoplifted. Why is there now video showing Mike Brown PAYING for his cigarillos? Come man! Make it make sense!
R.J. Carter August 25th, 2014 at 10:11
But the video doesn’t show him paying for it. Only the headline says that, and the headline is incorrect.
HauteTrue ModelChic Barbie Mat December 29th, 2014 at 02:19
N0 HE DIDNT…
churboysteezy August 21st, 2014 at 23:30
All you negro lovers should look up Dillon Taylor and how he got shot for absolutely nothing…unlike this fool
churboysteezy August 21st, 2014 at 23:33
Whenever someone white gets shot it is never on the news…wtf, that is bullshit..you don’t see us causing riots
Gwen Berry Towe August 22nd, 2014 at 00:28
You probably should, especially if it’s unjust! And The accurate term is “protest.” That’s what the bulk of the people on the streets of Ferguson did. Very few rioted, but that’s what some people and the media would like to focus on. If anyone’s killed by a cop, It should make the news. That’s a big reason why it continues.
Sam August 24th, 2014 at 12:20
No proof was given that he attacked the police officer. No picture nothing. You would think the ferguson PD would cover themselves by providing proof that the officer was attacked in some shape or form. They were quick to release a grainy video showing Mike Brown “robbing” a store. Make it make sense
Lboogiespeaks101 September 1st, 2014 at 17:21
Got melanin bytch? Our Sun doesn’t like you! That says alot about the much hated ORIGINAL MAN! You hate what you were not created with. You are dead pale energy who will disintegrate in the sun. You’ve been deceived by your own who created racism that you cling to….pitty
churboysteezy August 21st, 2014 at 23:30
All you negro lovers should look up Dillon Taylor and how he got shot for absolutely nothing…unlike this fool
churboysteezy August 21st, 2014 at 23:33
Whenever someone white gets shot it is never on the news…wtf, that is bullshit..you don’t see us causing riots
GetAlongGirl August 22nd, 2014 at 00:28
You probably should, especially if it’s unjust! And The accurate term is “protest.” That’s what the bulk of the people on the streets of Ferguson did. Very few rioted, but that’s what some people and the media would like to focus on. If anyone’s killed by a cop, It should make the news. That’s a big reason why it continues.
Sam August 24th, 2014 at 12:20
No proof was given that he attacked the police officer. No picture nothing. You would think the ferguson PD would cover themselves by providing proof that the officer was attacked in some shape or form. They were quick to release a grainy video showing Mike Brown “robbing” a store. Make it make sense
Lboogiespeaks101 September 1st, 2014 at 17:21
Got melanin bytch? Our Sun doesn’t like you! That says alot about the much hated ORIGINAL MAN! You hate what you were not created with. You are dead pale energy who will disintegrate in the sun. You’ve been deceived by your own who created racism that you cling to….pitty
Cassarah Love Ya Peony August 22nd, 2014 at 02:13
Yes because lets take away from the fact that he was actually shot while ATTACKING a police officer. SMH!
Sam August 22nd, 2014 at 02:24
Police cars have in dash cameras both looking outward and inside the vehicle. If Michael Brown did attack the police officer why not release the video proving it?
R.J. Carter August 22nd, 2014 at 13:38
It’s been documented already that the Ferguson police cars did not have dash cams. They were still in the box awaiting installation.
Sam August 24th, 2014 at 12:10
Well that’s suspicious to say the least.
Nicholas Russell Harris August 24th, 2014 at 16:05
And an awful convenient excuse to commit murder to say the most…
Lboogiespeaks101 September 1st, 2014 at 17:17
Excuses bytch excuses. Got melanin bytch? The sun doesn’t like your pale ass. Stop living in denial just stop it!
HauteTrue ModelChic Barbie Mat December 29th, 2014 at 01:18
HE NEVER ATTACKED A C0P…. THE C0P HIT HIM WITH HIS CAR D00R AND HE PUSHED IT BACK 0N THE C0P…AS HE SH0ULD HVE D0NE.. HERE IS A FACT.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yfbbt6DvHg
Cassarah Love Ya Peony August 22nd, 2014 at 02:13
Yes because lets take away from the fact that he was actually shot while ATTACKING a police officer. SMH!
Sam August 22nd, 2014 at 02:24
Police cars have in dash cameras both looking outward and inside the vehicle. If Michael Brown did attack the police officer why not release the video proving it?
R.J. Carter August 22nd, 2014 at 13:38
It’s been documented already that the Ferguson police cars did not have dash cams. They were still in the box awaiting installation.
Sam August 24th, 2014 at 12:10
Well that’s suspicious to say the least.
Nicholas Russell Harris August 24th, 2014 at 16:05
And an awful convenient excuse to commit murder to say the most…
Lboogiespeaks101 September 1st, 2014 at 17:17
Excuses bytch excuses. Got melanin bytch? The sun doesn’t like your pale ass. Stop living in denial just stop it!
HauteTrue ModelChic Barbie Mat December 29th, 2014 at 02:18
HE NEVER ATTACKED A C0P…. THE C0P HIT HIM WITH HIS CAR D00R AND HE PUSHED IT BACK 0N THE C0P…AS HE SH0ULD HVE D0NE.. HERE IS A FACT.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yfbbt6DvHg