Ferguson PD Video Backfires; Brown Seen Paying For Cigarillos
A hat tip to our good friends at AATTP and YouTube user Wango Tango. The Ferguson PD has a lot of explaining to do.
By: dave-dr-gonzo
David Hirsch, a.k.a. Dave "Doctor" Gonzo*, is a renegade record producer, video producer, writer, reformed corporate shill, and still-registered lobbyist for non-one-percenter performing artists and musicians. He lives in a heavily fortified compound in one of Manhattan's less trendy neighborhoods.
* Hirsch is the third person to use the pseudonym, a not-so-veiled tribute to journalist and author Hunter S. Thompson, with the permission of his predecessors Gene Gaudette of American Politics Journal (currently webmaster and chief bottlewasher at Liberaland) and Stephen Meese at Smashmouth Politics.
TKLBC August 20th, 2014 at 11:31
Yes, this is a typical transaction. I can’t tell you how many times I have had to reach over the counter to get my stuff and pay, and then when I try to leave the store only to have the clerk come out to thank me so I have to playfully grab him by his collar and push him up against a store display before I leave. Those clerks can be jokesters.
TKLBC April 24th, 2018 at 16:08
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Kevin Ryan August 20th, 2014 at 13:29
This video proves nothing except the fact that Brown was at the clerk’s counter for approximately 30 seconds. It shows us nothing of what happened before, and most importantly after. Why wasn’t a longer video clip provided?
Kevin Ryan August 20th, 2014 at 13:29
This video proves nothing except the fact that Brown was at the clerk’s counter for approximately 30 seconds. It shows us nothing of what happened before, and most importantly after. Why wasn’t a longer video clip provided?
Welcome to the Spin Zone. :-/
Paulette Wilson August 20th, 2014 at 14:16
Please my people don’t indulge yourself in this stupid conversation let them talk among themself because they are not intelligent enough for a response
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Purposedrivenlife Lewis August 20th, 2014 at 18:41
Amen its irrelevant, because as George Zimmerman lied so will they God will have the final say believe that vengeance is mine saith the Lord
Paulette Wilson August 20th, 2014 at 14:16
Please my people don’t indulge yourself in this stupid conversation let them talk among themself because they are not intelligent enough for a response
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Purposedrivenlife Lewis August 20th, 2014 at 18:41
Amen its irrelevant, because as George Zimmerman lied so will they God will have the final say believe that vengeance is mine saith the Lord
bruceclark August 20th, 2014 at 14:49
This article is irrelevant. The relevant fact is that a customer called 911 claiming a strong arm robbery had occurred. The store owner never denied that. The police were responding to the call for help and claim of robbery. That’s all that is relevant. The video MIGHT show him paying or might not. But it certainly DOES show him getting violent with the clerk. So there is absolutely nothing about this video or the police claims surrounding this incident that is misleading or racism. The only thing misleading and racist is this article
Dez August 20th, 2014 at 18:40
Of course this is racism. Only a complete idiot would ignore the systematic killings of unarmed black men. Look what happened here. People automatically assume black men are guilty and deserve to be gunned down for jaywalking and stealing cigs. If this was the other way around and this was a white man, the officer would have been arrested already. Plus the officer didn’t know Brown was a suspect in a robbery. The officer was the one trained to handle citizens and failed to do so by killing Brown instead of detaining him.
GrannyBug August 30th, 2014 at 18:01
A young white boy was recently killed by a black officer and all we are hearing is crickets …. chirp, chirp, chirp …. Surprise, surprise. Be careful what you wish for.
Dez September 2nd, 2014 at 17:09
Is it systematic killings of white kids by black cops? Nope then you don’t have a point. Once it is then get back to me.
R.J. Carter September 2nd, 2014 at 17:17
The crucial thing that makes something “systematic” is media coverage.
Torian Richardson August 20th, 2014 at 22:24
The one thing that would be relevant is if it is true that the cops only obtained the video after Mike was dead. That would be in direct conflict of the polices statements of the officers excuse for confronting Mike the second time. This also decreds the polices trustworthiness.
Jason Neal August 21st, 2014 at 17:21
“Confronting Mike the second time.” Wtf? Are you making up your own news? Mike was confronted once and shot at the same time. He was never stopped regarding the burglary. The fact that he robbed the place in the first place only throws the community claims that “He was a quiet, gentle giant that never hurt anyone” was just BS.
Torian Richardson August 21st, 2014 at 17:31
Really, because the “official” police statement says that the initial confrontation between the policeman and Mike was about him walking in the road. Apparently while driving off, the police officer heard of a robbery and Mike fit the description. This would now count as the second encounter. You are saying he was never stopped regarding the burglary, maybe you need to read the officers side of the story again.
“he fact that he robbed the place in the first place only throws the community claims that “He was a quiet, gentle giant that never hurt anyone” was just BS.”. I am not convinced that he did rob the store. Apparently, neither the store clerk or any store employee called to report a robbery. Do you know a store employee who does not call the police after being “strong arm robbed”? There are too many things that don’t add up. I will wait until the trial for all the facts to show up and kill the rumors and misinformation.
Jason Neal August 21st, 2014 at 19:10
Torian, I’m done with you. The fact that you don’t even know what happened regarding Mike Brown’s shooting leaves me no faith that you’re capable of reading the evidence presented to you. You don’t look at facts, you don’t read proof provided for you (since you’re too lazy to get it yourself), and you rely on hear-say to formulate an opinion. You give me little hope for the American people has a whole.
I’m “Outie”.
Torian Richardson August 21st, 2014 at 19:17
“Torian, I’m done with you. “.. as you spend the next paragraph speaking of evidence and facts yet providing no counter argument against anything I said. Were you at the shooting? It seems to me that everything you are saying is something you HEARD or READ. I was repeating the Police Chief verified statement from the officer himself. But as typical, because you can’t actually debate anything I said, you are “outie” which is fine with me. I never asked you to be in OUR conversation in the first place.
Michael "Mk" Simpson Jr August 21st, 2014 at 02:27
Thank you. I needed a good laugh and you’re very entertaining. I’m showing this to my white neighbor right now and she is basically falling out of the chair with laughter.
bruceclark August 20th, 2014 at 14:49
This article is irrelevant. The relevant fact is that a customer called 911 claiming a strong arm robbery had occurred. The store owner never denied that. The police were responding to the call for help and claim of robbery. That’s all that is relevant. The video MIGHT show him paying or might not. But it certainly DOES show him getting violent with the clerk. So there is absolutely nothing about this video or the police claims surrounding this incident that is misleading or racism. The only thing misleading and racist is this article
Dez August 20th, 2014 at 18:40
Of course this is racism. Only a complete idiot would ignore the systematic killings of unarmed black men. Look what happened here. People automatically assume black men are guilty and deserve to be gunned down for jaywalking and stealing cigs. If this was the other way around and this was a white man, the officer would have been arrested already. Plus the officer didn’t know Brown was a suspect in a robbery. The officer was the one trained to handle citizens and failed to do so by killing Brown instead of detaining him.
GrannyBug August 30th, 2014 at 18:01
A young white boy was recently killed by a black officer and all we are hearing is crickets …. chirp, chirp, chirp …. Surprise, surprise. Be careful what you wish for.
Dez September 2nd, 2014 at 17:09
Is it systematic killings of white kids by black cops? Nope then you don’t have a point. Once it is then get back to me.
R.J. Carter September 2nd, 2014 at 17:17
The crucial thing that makes something “systematic” is media coverage.
Torian Richardson August 20th, 2014 at 22:24
The one thing that would be relevant is if it is true that the cops only obtained the video after Mike was dead. That would be in direct conflict of the polices statements of the officers excuse for confronting Mike the second time. This also decreds the polices trustworthiness.
Jason Neal August 21st, 2014 at 17:21
“Confronting Mike the second time.” Wtf? Are you making up your own news? Mike was confronted once and shot at the same time. He was never stopped regarding the burglary. The fact that he robbed the place in the first place only throws the community claims that “He was a quiet, gentle giant that never hurt anyone” was just BS.
Torian Richardson August 21st, 2014 at 17:31
Really, because the “official” police statement says that the initial confrontation between the policeman and Mike was about him walking in the road. Apparently while driving off, the police officer heard of a robbery and Mike fit the description. This would now count as the second encounter. You are saying he was never stopped regarding the burglary, maybe you need to read the officers side of the story again.
“he fact that he robbed the place in the first place only throws the community claims that “He was a quiet, gentle giant that never hurt anyone” was just BS.”. I am not convinced that he did rob the store. Apparently, neither the store clerk or any store employee called to report a robbery. Do you know a store employee who does not call the police after being “strong arm robbed”? There are too many things that don’t add up. I will wait until the trial for all the facts to show up and kill the rumors and misinformation.
Jason Neal August 21st, 2014 at 19:10
Torian, I’m done with you. The fact that you don’t even know what happened regarding Mike Brown’s shooting leaves me no faith that you’re capable of reading the evidence presented to you. You don’t look at facts, you don’t read proof provided for you (since you’re too lazy to get it yourself), and you rely on hear-say to formulate an opinion. You give me little hope for the American people has a whole.
I’m “Outie”.
Torian Richardson August 21st, 2014 at 19:17
“Torian, I’m done with you. “.. as you spend the next paragraph speaking of evidence and facts yet providing no counter argument against anything I said. Were you at the shooting? It seems to me that everything you are saying is something you HEARD or READ. I was repeating the Police Chief verified statement from the officer himself. But as typical, because you can’t actually debate anything I said, you are “outie” which is fine with me. I never asked you to be in the conversation in the first place.
Michael "Mk" Simpson Jr August 21st, 2014 at 02:27
Thank you. I needed a good laugh and you’re very entertaining. I’m showing this to my white neighbor right now and she is basically falling out of the chair with laughter.
Richard August 20th, 2014 at 16:44
So according to the article, it’s OK for me to go around and start shoving people?
Dez August 20th, 2014 at 18:35
According to you it’s okay to shoot and kill an unarmed black teen for stealing and jaywalking.
The Correctness August 20th, 2014 at 23:51
Him being killed for jaywalking is not looking to accurate right now lol
Dez August 21st, 2014 at 10:50
Yeah he was shoot for no reason which is not any better than being shoot for stealing cigs or jaywalking.
The Correctness August 21st, 2014 at 12:44
No reason huh? glad you were there. How do you explain a fractured orbital bone on the policemen? how do you explain a shot that went off in the car? how do you explain witnesses in the community saying Brown charged him? Just think about that in silence and realize that your own prejudice is clouding potential facts. If then you can get over your own bias and denial, you will be a better more aptly suited person.
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 11:16
Let me get this straight? Did Officer Wilson shoot Brown at a distance or at close range? That estimated distance can be easily determined. Did Brown get shoot from the back or the front or both. That can also be determined. Did Brown surrendered after he was wounded or did Officer Wilson continue to shot even after Brown had surrendered? This is the real crux of the matter. Officers are not allowed to continue shooting a suspect after the suspect has been subdued. They cross the line when officers create additional harm to the suspect, which is why we call it excessive force and why it is wrong and why it is a crime.
The issue is that Officer Wilson used excessive force that ended the life of Mike Brown. We as a society can not and do not allow people that we trust to protect and serve to arbitrarily kill another human being without any accountability. When Officer Wilson made the choice to raise his gun and shoot, it better be for a better reason than Brown failing to take his gun so that’s why Wilson decided to mindlessly shoot Brown multiple times.
The Correctness August 25th, 2014 at 11:25
Good post, I agree completely. As witnesses on tape said in contrast to what some others had said, he ran at the cop yelling “shoot me” after allegedly attacking the cop and trying to get his gun from him where a shot is said to have gone off in the car. If this is proven to be false, then the cop should be liable to any and all criminal charges. Notice to thugs, attack me and try to wrestle my gun from me you WILL BE SHOT….take heed.
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 12:49
So you believe that an officer is rightly justified in killing a person fleeing after a failed attempt at a struggle for a gun. Well unlike you, I rather that we have officers that do not have the right to arbitrarily decide who should die. Sorry but I do not believe that Mike Brown stopped, turned around and started to go after Officer Wilson after being shot multiple times. It is more conceivable that Officer Wilson used very poor judgment and escalated altercation that he no longer had control over rather than wait for backup.
Officer Wilson initiated an encounter that either he was ill trained for or his actions were completely uncalled for and should be charged with manslaughter. And due to the history of police enforcement in primarily black communities, the police in these areas don’t seem to have the best interest of the community or its citizens.
The Correctness August 25th, 2014 at 13:48
It doesn’t matter what we believe, facts matter. How could he be fleeing if all the shots were on the front torso?! As witnesses stated on tape, he charged the cop screaming “shoot me”. He was a violent thug, this is without question.
Unfortunately, there are excessive run in’s with police in black communities, in most cases they are overran with violent miscreants. If HALF this energy was put into restructuring the hoods and shaming the thug culture instead of encouraging it, not only would the neighborhood flourish but run ins with police would come to a screeching halt.
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 15:18
Your assessment of how black communities behave and black people are is truly horrifying. Your inability to empathies in with the blight of our black citizens is clear and your call for shaming the “thug culture” is laughable. If half the energy was put into treating every citizen as equal and treating every citizen with respect and stop demonizing a whole group like you have done. The most violent miscreants we have in America are the people residing in government and corporations. These are people that evidently cause the most deaths and destruction upon us and you are more concerned with how black folks act.
Let me know when the police forces have targeted the lying, cheating, stealing, folks of Wall Street and Congress or the polluting, war mongering, middle class raping of the wealthy CEOs of corporations. When you finally stop these pompous sociopaths from ever gaining power or influences then maybe we wouldn’t have to deal with police stomping on our liberties.
Mike Brown may not be an outstanding role model citizen but he still had rights to due process like every citizen. But since he’s black, poor, and from a black neighborhood an asshole cop can always roll up anytime for any reason to harass, interrogate, and detain them without having to give any reason. Any black man in public is considered a suspect and its a free for all in how much force officers can apply on them even causing death. Is it a given now that all black men are a possible threat and have no rights? I do still believe we are a nation of laws and our justice system should apply equally and fairly, but this is not the case. When a white officer happens to kill an unarmed black suspect, the community cant demand an thorough, transparent investigation. Why have the justice system trying so hard to sweep it under the rug like so many police shooting unarmed black suspects? Why the need to vilify and demonize the dead suspect before all the facts are known? Why all the cover-up and delays? The officer should be in a cell by now waiting on a bond hiring and preparing to be indicted on murder charges. But still Officer Wilson is protected and resting comfortably in an undisclosed location while on paid leave pending the investigation.
The Correctness August 25th, 2014 at 17:27
Please, I have lived in hoods off and on my whole life, I am very familiar thus an accurate assessment from my experience. Why is shaming the thug culture “laughable”?, when did accountability a bad thing?. MLK is rolling over in his grave right now.
Why is pointing the finger at anywhere but at one’s own destructive habits a good thing? I am not saying everyone in the hood are bad people, but plenty are. Corporations are not violent, shady? plenty are definitely. Government is not violent, unless your want to get into the war aspect which is a whole other debate that we might actually see eye to eye on more. Plenty of CEO’s have been imprisoned for their shady acts. I will admit there is a degree of inequality in sentencing but let’s not be ridiculous. There is a difference in embezzlement and taking people’s life. We are definitely in “off topic” water here anyhow, which will never get to the root of why blacks kill each other and commit crimes at alarming rates exceeding that of the overwhelming majority in whites and Hispanics. Like I said earlier, clean up your neighborhoods, eradicate the cancer of thuggery being cool and the communities will flourish. The term “ghetto” started by one the first oppressed people in America, the Irish, extremely poor, discriminated against yet extremely resilient. With hard work and accountability they rose from the bottom against the odds.
The officer should not be in jail, until the facts say so. As of right now, there are two stories, I am definitely leaning towards the officers story as we see the “gentle giant” wasn’t so gentle, he’s a violent thief thug as a matter of fact. As I said earlier, deer are responsible for more deaths to black people per year than police.
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 13:12
Also take heed that if you kill a person that is running away no matter if they tried to wrestle your gun from you or not, you will still be on trial for murder. No matter self-defense story you come up with, its only going to be your side of the story because the other person is dead. So rather than believe the accounts of the person that has everything to lose, I rather depend on the evidence. The evidence seem to show that Mike Brown was at a considerable distance at the point where he was shot. He was shot multiple times and twice in the head. And the shots on his arm does appear that he had them raised at some point in shooting.
And I would greatly question if a person would come rushing with their arms raised above their head to attack a person with a gun. That clearly doesn’t make good sense.
Even if Brown did try to wrestle a gun from Officer Wilson, he didn’t succeed. And clearly during the time Brown got shot and the supposed struggle in the car, Brown ended up several feet away from the officer when he was shot, which would indicate that Brown did escape some distance from the officer before he was shot. So this would mean that Office Wilson had time to recover his gun and shoot Brown as he was getting away. That to me is more conceivable. Officer Wilson shot a man running away from him and that to me and any reasonable person is murder.
Dez August 27th, 2014 at 18:18
That was a lie that many racists like to believe to fit the racist stereotype of the violent black man that had to be killed or else the cop would have been killed. Like we haven’t heard that narrative of the years.
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 10:46
So why wasnt his friends killed for the same reason ? I guess Officer Wilson justt didn’t like Michael all that much huh
Dez August 21st, 2014 at 10:49
Unfortunately the officer could only kill one unarmed teen at a time. Yet you do not dispute the fact you think it is okay to shoot a teen for stealing cigs. Says a lot about you that you think the friend should have been shot too.
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 11:15
Do you know for a fact he was shot for stealing ? I never said his friends should have been shot too so stop twisting my words, I said if michael was shot then why wasnt his friends shot as well, if they were all at a distance why didnt the officer unload on them too when he started firing ?
Richard August 20th, 2014 at 16:44
So according to the article, it’s OK for me to go around and start shoving people?
Dez August 20th, 2014 at 18:35
According to you it’s okay to shoot and kill an unarmed black teen for stealing and jaywalking.
The Correctness August 20th, 2014 at 23:51
Him being killed for jaywalking is not looking to accurate right now lol
Dez August 21st, 2014 at 10:50
Yeah he was shoot for no reason which is not any better than being shoot for stealing cigs or jaywalking.
The Correctness August 21st, 2014 at 12:44
No reason huh? glad you were there. How do you explain a fractured orbital bone on the policemen? how do you explain a shot that went off in the car? how do you explain witnesses in the community saying Brown charged him? Just think about that in silence and realize that your own prejudice is clouding potential facts. If then you can get over your own bias and denial, you will be a better more aptly suited person.
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 11:16
Let me get this straight? Did Officer Wilson shoot Brown at a distance or at close range? That estimated distance can be easily determined. Did Brown get shoot from the back or the front or both. That can also be determined. Did Brown surrendered after he was wounded or did Officer Wilson continue to shot even after Brown had surrendered? This is the real crux of the matter. Officers are not allowed to continue shooting a suspect after the suspect has been subdued. They cross the line when officers create additional harm to the suspect, which is why we call it excessive force and why it is wrong and why it is a crime.
The issue is did Officer Wilson used excessive force that ended the life of Mike Brown? We as a society can not and do not allow people that we trust to protect and serve to arbitrarily kill another human being without any accountability. When Officer Wilson made the choice to raise his gun and shoot, it better be for a better reason than Brown failing to take his gun so that’s why Wilson decided to mindlessly shoot Brown multiple times.
The Correctness August 25th, 2014 at 11:25
Good post, I agree completely. As witnesses on tape said in contrast to what some others had said, he ran at the cop yelling “shoot me” after allegedly attacking the cop and trying to get his gun from him where a shot is said to have gone off in the car. If this is proven to be false, then the cop should be liable to any and all criminal charges. Notice to thugs, attack me and try to wrestle my gun from me you WILL BE SHOT….take heed.
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 12:49
So you believe that an officer is rightly justified in killing a person fleeing after a failed attempt at a struggle for a gun. Well unlike you, I rather that we have officers that do not have the right to arbitrarily decide who should die. Sorry but I do not believe that Mike Brown stopped, turned around and started to go after Officer Wilson after being shot multiple times. It is more conceivable that Officer Wilson used very poor judgment and escalated an altercation that he no longer had control over rather than wait for backup.
Officer Wilson initiated an encounter that either he was ill trained for or his actions were completely uncalled for and should be charged with manslaughter. And due to the history of police enforcement in primarily black communities, the police in these areas don’t seem to have the best interest of the community or its citizens.
The Correctness August 25th, 2014 at 13:48
It doesn’t matter what we believe, facts matter. How could he be fleeing if all the shots were on the front torso?! As witnesses stated on tape, he charged the cop screaming “shoot me”. He was a violent thug, this is without question.
Unfortunately, there are excessive run in’s with police in black communities, in most cases they are overran with violent miscreants. If HALF this energy was put into restructuring the hoods and shaming the thug culture instead of encouraging it, not only would the neighborhood flourish but run ins with police would come to a screeching halt.
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 15:18
Your assessment of how black communities behave and black people are is truly horrifying. Your inability to empathize with the blight of our black citizens is clear and your call for shaming the “thug culture” is laughable. If half the energy was put into treating every citizen as equal and treating every citizen with respect and stop demonizing a whole group like you have done. The most violent miscreants we have in America are the people residing in government and corporations. These are people that evidently cause the most deaths and destruction upon us and you are more concerned with how black folks act.
Let me know when the police forces have targeted the lying, cheating, stealing, folks of Wall Street and Congress or the polluting, war mongering, middle class raping of the wealthy CEOs of corporations. When you finally stop these pompous sociopaths from ever gaining power or influences then maybe we wouldn’t have to deal with police stomping on our liberties.
Mike Brown may not be an outstanding role model citizen but he still had rights to due process like every citizen. But since he’s black, poor, and from a black neighborhood an asshole cop can always roll up anytime for any reason to harass, interrogate, and detain them without having to give any reason. Any black man in public is considered a suspect and its a free for all in how much force officers can apply on them even causing death. Is it a given now that all black men are a possible threat and have no rights? I do still believe we are a nation of laws and our justice system should apply equally and fairly, but this is not the case. When a white officer happens to kill an unarmed black suspect, the community cant demand a thorough, transparent investigation without protesting and crying out for justice. Why have the justice system trying so hard to sweep this under the rug like so many police shooting unarmed black suspects? Why the need to vilify and demonize the dead suspect before all the facts are known? Why all the cover-up and delays? The officer should be in a cell by now waiting on a bond hearing and preparing to be indicted on murder charges. But still Officer Wilson is protected and resting comfortably in an undisclosed location while on paid leave pending the investigation.
The Correctness August 25th, 2014 at 17:27
Please, I have lived in hoods off and on my whole life, I am very familiar thus an accurate assessment from my experience. Why is shaming the thug culture “laughable”?, when did accountability a bad thing?. MLK is rolling over in his grave right now.
Why is pointing the finger at anywhere but at one’s own destructive habits a good thing? I am not saying everyone in the hood are bad people, but plenty are. Corporations are not violent, shady? plenty are definitely. Government is not violent, unless your want to get into the war aspect which is a whole other debate that we might actually see eye to eye on more. Plenty of CEO’s have been imprisoned for their shady acts. I will admit there is a degree of inequality in sentencing but let’s not be ridiculous. There is a difference in embezzlement and taking people’s life. We are definitely in “off topic” water here anyhow, which will never get to the root of why blacks kill each other and commit crimes at alarming rates exceeding that of the overwhelming majority in whites and Hispanics. Like I said earlier, clean up your neighborhoods, eradicate the cancer of thuggery being cool and the communities will flourish. The term “ghetto” started by one the first oppressed people in America, the Irish, extremely poor, discriminated against yet extremely resilient. With hard work and accountability they rose from the bottom against the odds.
The officer should not be in jail, until the facts say so. As of right now, there are two stories, I am definitely leaning towards the officers story as we see the “gentle giant” wasn’t so gentle, he’s a violent thief thug as a matter of fact. As I said earlier, deer are responsible for more deaths to black people per year than police.
Leysin August 25th, 2014 at 13:12
Also take heed that if you kill a person that is running away no matter if they tried to wrestle your gun from you or not, you will still be on trial for murder. No matter what self-defense story you come up with, its only going to be your side of the story because the other person is dead. So rather than believe the accounts of the person that has everything to lose, I rather depend on the evidence. The evidence seem to show that Mike Brown was at a considerable distance at the point where he was shot. He was shot multiple times and twice in the head. And the shots on his arm does appear that he had them raised at some point in shooting.
And I would greatly question if a person would come rushing with their arms raised above their head to attack a person with a gun. That clearly doesn’t make good sense.
Even if Brown did try to wrestle a gun from Officer Wilson, he didn’t succeed. And clearly during the time Brown got shot and the supposed struggle in the car, Brown ended up several feet away from the officer when he was shot, which would indicate that Brown did escape some distance from the officer before he was shot. So this would mean that Office Wilson had time to recover his gun and shoot Brown as he was getting away. That to me is more conceivable. Officer Wilson shot a man running away from him and that to me and any reasonable person is murder.
Dez August 27th, 2014 at 18:18
That was a lie that many racists like to believe to fit the racist stereotype of the violent black man that had to be killed or else the cop would have been killed. Like we haven’t heard that narrative of the years.
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 10:46
So why wasnt his friends killed for the same reason ? I guess Officer Wilson justt didn’t like Michael all that much huh
Dez August 21st, 2014 at 10:49
Unfortunately the officer could only kill one unarmed teen at a time. Yet you do not dispute the fact you think it is okay to shoot a teen for stealing cigs. Says a lot about you that you think the friend should have been shot too.
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 11:15
Do you know for a fact he was shot for stealing ? I never said his friends should have been shot too so stop twisting my words, I said if michael was shot then why wasnt his friends shot as well, if they were all at a distance why didnt the officer unload on them too when he started firing ?
Kishona Woodfork August 20th, 2014 at 17:03
All y’all just stfu Wilson needs a lawyer and the ones that disagree needs a life…. Good day!!!! :)
Kishona Woodfork August 20th, 2014 at 17:03
All y’all just stfu Wilson needs a lawyer and the ones that disagree needs a life…. Good day!!!! :)
Tom Bean August 20th, 2014 at 17:10
How about showing the entire video…
Tom Bean August 20th, 2014 at 17:10
How about showing the entire video…
CowboyUpAmerica August 20th, 2014 at 17:46
LOL, you libs are fools…
He is a liar, he is not a doctor…The Brown family hired him…
LOL, http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-mike-brown-autopsy-expert-is-not-a-doctor-has-degree-in-non-existent-medical-field-video/
Anomaly 100 August 20th, 2014 at 19:01
And I’m taking out your extreme right wing link. Thanks just the same.
LX-23 August 20th, 2014 at 22:25
Michael Baden has an MD. Therefore, he is a doctor. Try not to make a fool of yourself when accusing other people of being fools…
R.J. Carter August 21st, 2014 at 14:54
He’s not talking about Michael Baden.
Nicholas Russell Harris August 21st, 2014 at 14:48
Hey look another Fascist
CowboyUpAmerica August 20th, 2014 at 17:46
https://liberaland.disqus.com/admin/moderate/LOL, you libs are fools…
He is a liar, he is not a doctor…The Brown family hired him…
LOL,
Anomaly 100 August 20th, 2014 at 19:01
And I’m taking out your extreme right wing link. Thanks just the same.
LX-23 August 20th, 2014 at 22:25
Michael Baden has an MD. Therefore, he is a doctor. Try not to make a fool of yourself when accusing other people of being fools…
R.J. Carter August 21st, 2014 at 14:54
He’s not talking about Michael Baden.
Nicholas Russell Harris August 21st, 2014 at 14:48
Hey look another Fascist
RogDog August 20th, 2014 at 18:26
We simply do not have all the facts. The police should not have released this video. It was completely unwise to do so. It looks like an attempt at character assassination. People jump on one side or another based on their own experiences. Let’s do our best to be on the side of truth. No matter where that lies.
RogDog August 20th, 2014 at 18:26
We simply do not have all the facts. The police should not have released this video. It was completely unwise to do so. It looks like an attempt at character assassination. People jump on one side or another based on their own experiences. Let’s do our best to be on the side of truth. No matter where that lies.
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 08:48
Um ok…what does that have to do with the mike brown shooting ? That is an after the fact incodent…off topic much ?
raincheck August 21st, 2014 at 09:00
“Sorry, but no officer in their right mind would shoot someone just for being black.” I was responding to your comment.. which implies a cop would NEVER shoot a man because he was black.. by directing you to a video that shows a cop threatening to kill a member of the press for no apparent reason…please try to keep up!!
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 09:04
Off topic much still ? Lets get back to the shooting huh ? Try and keep up
raincheck August 21st, 2014 at 09:58
You’re being obtuse…
phantasm76 August 21st, 2014 at 10:51
Ran out of discussion and had to resort to name calling huh, you must be a liberal. I am actually surprised you didn’t call me racist on top of being stupid
raincheck August 21st, 2014 at 12:37
I didn’t call you a name.. is obtuse a name? I suggest you look it up… Now If I called you “Comic book Man” (phantasm?) lol THAT would be calling you a name! Aren’t you getting “Off topic”? I’m not interested in ANYTHING you have to say, so you’re wasting your time. If I wanted to call you a racist , I would have! As far as being a “Liberal”… well I could be called worse. “Ran out of discussion”? No… it just seems futile to try and engage you any further than I already have… go away! Go hump someone else’ leg.. Do you have some kind of drinking problem? Drugs? mental health issues?… See what you did? Now we’re really “off topic”…. PEACE!!
phantasm76 August 22nd, 2014 at 22:21
My apologies…you must have been refering to me as obtuse..like the angle and clearly not the insulting definition of obtuse which says I lack intellegence, and lets not get on user names because yours must mean you had to take a raincheck the day personalities were handed out, but you have a nice day sir it was fun have a rational (yes I had to snicker while writing that) conversation
raincheck August 21st, 2014 at 09:03
Judging from a lot of these comments… it looks like the FPD releasing the video to distract people.. is working
raincheck August 21st, 2014 at 09:03
Judging from a lot of these comments… it looks like the FPD releasing the video to distract people.. is working