UPDATED: Anonymous Outs Officer In Brown Shooting; Identity In Doubt

Posted by | August 14, 2014 09:08 | Filed under: News Behaving Badly Top Stories

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UPDATE, 8/15, 8:27am: As reported by CNN, the name of the cop alleged to have shot Michael Brown will be released today by law enforcement authorities in Ferguson, around 10amEST. And The Guardian has more of the back story on the suspension of the Anonymous-related Twitter account that made public the name of Bryan Willman, who is not a police officer with either Ferguson or Saint Louis. Interestingly, if an IRC chat copied to Pastebin is to be believed, members of Anonymous – including the member whose Twitter account was quashed – had identified a possible suspect with a very different name!

UPDATE, 2:33pmEST: Anonymous’ official #OpFerguson Twitter account are reporting that the name of a Ferguson police officer released by another Anonymous activist’s account is not the same as that of the officer that they have independently identified as the officer who shot Michael Brown last week.

UPDATE, 12:59pmEST: Raw Story reports that the Saint Louis Police are saying that the officer named by Anonymous is not the officer who shot Michael Brown.

This morning at 9amEST, Anonymous has named the Ferguson, MO police officer who they allege shot Michael Brown in an incident that has triggered nearly a week of protests. At 11amEST, they released a photograph of officer Bryan Willman, and are threatening to release additional information about the officer unless the Ferguson police department responds.

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459 responses to UPDATED: Anonymous Outs Officer In Brown Shooting; Identity In Doubt

  1. The Third Archon August 14th, 2014 at 12:01

    Has anyone cross-referenced the name with the list of 53 officers (I thought) of Ferguson? Isn’t that information public?

  2. John_St_John August 14th, 2014 at 12:01

    You know folks, with all the violence being perpetuated against Blacks and Latinos over the last six years I have come to one conclusion, full blown South African Apartheid has come to America.

  3. EMB August 14th, 2014 at 12:21

    There’s violence back and forth Across all races against all races. We all came into the world the same way and will turn to dust the same way. Media sensationalizes everything but doesn’t report incidences equally.

  4. BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:21

    More “transparency” by Ferguson PD: From Daily Kos:

    In other developments, Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson said that:

    … a St. Louis County coroner’s report has not been released due, in part, to concerns that releasing certain details–such as the exact number of gunshot wounds on Brown’s body–could taint possible witness testimony.

    Yes, an official autopsy report, detailing the number of bullets that slammed into Michael Brown’s body and from what distance might “taint” witness testimony on how many times Brown was shot and from where. Either that or it will taint the spin Ferguson police have been peddling since Michael Brown was killed. Oh, and speaking of reports, Police Chief Jackson is now claiming that the officer who shot Michael Brown was injured and taken to the hospital that day because his “face was swollen.” How about releasing that report?

  5. EMB August 14th, 2014 at 12:21

    There’s violence back and forth Across all races against all races. We all came into the world the same way and will turn to dust the same way. Media sensationalizes everything but doesn’t report incidences equally.

  6. BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:21

    More “transparency” by Ferguson PD: From Daily Kos:

    In other developments, Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson said that:

    … a St. Louis County coroner’s report has not been released due, in part, to concerns that releasing certain details–such as the exact number of gunshot wounds on Brown’s body–could taint possible witness testimony.

    Yes, an official autopsy report, detailing the number of bullets that slammed into Michael Brown’s body and from what distance might “taint” witness testimony on how many times Brown was shot and from where. Either that or it will taint the spin Ferguson police have been peddling since Michael Brown was killed. Oh, and speaking of reports, Police Chief Jackson is now claiming that the officer who shot Michael Brown was injured and taken to the hospital that day because his “face was swollen.” How about releasing that report?

  7. Terry Hatch August 14th, 2014 at 12:22

    The name of the officer they gave out is not correct.

    • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:24

      Since no one knows that for sure, speculation that this is inaccurate will continue. No one KNOWS that it’s not the right name.

      All in the name of transparency.

      • The Third Archon August 14th, 2014 at 12:27

        Well presumably the police do in fact know if it’s the right name–they just cannot be trusted to honestly report what they know since they have an incentive to deflect if it ISN’T him and to deflect if it IS him (him being the name identified).

        • Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 12:33

          An interesting exchange on their page.
          |Trïll|✨ @SheeeeRatchetx

          @stlcountypd @TheAnonMessage when a regular joe shmo kills someone, their information is released…

          St. Louis County PD @stlcountypdFollow

          @SheeeeRatchetx We only release suspect information after the investigation is complete and charges have been issued.

          10:58 AM – 14 Aug 2014

          • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:51

            Which sounds exactly like the cover up that everyone thinks it is.

      • Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 12:28

        St. Louis County PD @stlcountypdFollow
        @TheAnonMessage Bryan Willman is not even an officer with Ferguson or St. Louis County PD. Do not release more info on this random citizen.
        10:45 AM – 14 Aug 2014

        • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:29

          And you choose to believe – that’s your choice. It may very well be wrong (as Anon is sometimes). On the other hand, THIS is what happens when people HIDE information. And since when has the PD proven itself “honest” in this entire case?

          • R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 12:31

            You mean flawed information being released because of the need to know immediately? This just brought the whole thing a step closer to being “Ferguson Ferguson FERGUSON!”

            • Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 12:38

              Take a look at Anonymous’ Project Chanology and all the deliberate misinformation they distributed then.

              • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:50

                Why? I’m not interested in spreading their info. It would seem that if the local police took the initiative to be honest, tell the truth .. it would calm things down a well.
                The ONLY people rioting last night were the cops. I think the people of Ferguson only want answers. And instead they are getting rubber bullets, concussion grenades and tear gas in their homes.
                Citizens have a right to question authority when a citizen is killed by a police officer.

            • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:46

              “Flawed information” – are you referring to Anonymous or are you referring to the PD?
              All the bullets came from the cops gun … did Brown magically grab the gun and shoot himself 8 times including at least once in the back?
              What are you referring to now?
              And why DO people pay attention to Anonymous?
              When a police officer paid for by the City shoots and kills an unarmed citizen (walking while black), yes the people have a need to know.
              When the police give the appearance of a coverup, yes the cops are doing something wrong. When they refuse to interview the witnesses, they are giving the appearance of doing something wrong.
              I would also be interested to know just what type of record this cop has? Or does no one have a “need to know” for that too?
              Public servant?
              Public payroll?
              Right to know exists.

              • geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 00:25

                You can’t believe everything you hear or read. Just because it’s in full color on TV or on the Internet doesn’t make it true. There are three sides to every story. One of them is the truth. How about if everyone exercised some patience and wait for the truth to be revealed?

          • Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 12:33

            Why do you choose to believe Anonymous? I can tell you from personal experience that they are more than willing to lie when they think they are on the right side of an issue.

            • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:38

              Did I say I believed Anonymous? From the very beginning I have stated that the police officers name should be released by the PD…as is usually the case. The PD is making themselves look ever dirtier as they continue to stonewall and drag their feet on even releasing the young man’s autopsy.
              Secrecy is bad – when you are a public servant and your department appears to be hiding everything. It makes people angry and makes them appear to be lying, obfuscating, delaying and protecting a bad cop.
              Stop and think about this a minute. WHO is making the cops look bad? They are doing a wonderful job of screwing themselves without anyone elses help.
              Anonymous is just trying for attention. They have their own agenda –

            • Tammy Minton Haley August 14th, 2014 at 15:10

              …almost all will lie if they believe their cause is high-minded enough–it’s classic “end justifies the means” behavior…humans being human, straining at the seams…

              what’s killing me with incredulity, is all this hoo-haw about “the militarization of the police”…where the hell has everybody been? i’ve been hearing about this since 9/11–but it started happening in the 80’s, with the big build-up on the failed and utterly lost “Drug War”…i think it started when cops began to be outgunned by cartels and such….then, 9/11 happened, and even these tiny hamlets started getting ridiculous amounts of battleground equipment…

              let’s not forget the NRA’s place in this–lax gun restrictions leads to the general populace being better armed than the cops…the police really don’t like that…it scares them, and rightly so….the cop shop shouldn’t have to have a rocket launcher to be better-equipped than the general citizenry…

              as usual, we’ve done this to ourselves by being short-sighted and led by fear–i won’t even mention lazy and apathetic (well, maybe i will)…we deserve the country we’ve got…let’s see if no abortion facilities available to exercise a constitutional right will bring people out to vote…no?…okay…how about the government spying on you?…no?…alright, what of the militarization of the police across the nation?…

              ah, poo…there’s my rant o’ the day… :)

              • Gary August 14th, 2014 at 17:31

                I think you’re right about militarization starting a while back. Under Raygun, more than likely. Then after 9/11, Bush/Cheney added fuel to the fire by awarding no-bid contracts to military contractors. Now there’s no war to make them tons o’bucks so they still have to sell their hardware somewhere. And who better to outfit against the black and brown inferior races? Why our police of course. I’m way out in WA state and I’m white, but I’m scared to death of these Rambos. This is at the core of these events and is the issue that needs to be resolved…and damn soon.

                • Tammy Minton Haley August 14th, 2014 at 21:50

                  these local departments are granted this equipment from “Homeland Security”–these tiny little cop shops have $250K “Mine Repellant Armored Patrols” (?)–the military invented them special for the IED’s in Irag/Afghanistan…

                  (reference “Rachel Maddow Show/MSNBC/08.14.14)

              • Gary August 14th, 2014 at 17:31

                I think you’re right about militarization starting a while back. Under Raygun, more than likely. Then after 9/11, Bush/Cheney added fuel to the fire by awarding no-bid contracts to military contractors. Now there’s no war to make them tons o’bucks so they still have to sell their hardware somewhere. And who better to outfit against the black and brown inferior races? Why our police of course. I’m way out in WA state and I’m white, but I’m scared to death of these Rambos. This is at the core of these events and is the issue that needs to be resolved…and damn soon.

        • Heather Craft August 14th, 2014 at 15:28

          http://www.ddotomen.com/2014/08/14/prison-break-bryan-willman-police-officer-shot-killed-mike-brown-revealed/

        • KatieAnnieOakley August 14th, 2014 at 16:32

          No, he is NOT a “police officer” – he is a Communications Supervisor with the Saint Ann PD in nearby Saint Ann.

          So, yes – they can claim that man is not an officer – he’s not.

          But they did not say “No, that is not the name of the person that shot Brown”.

      • Terry Hatch August 14th, 2014 at 12:31

        I think the name should be released immediately by the police dept, but the mayor was just on TV and said the name given out by Anonymous is wrong. Maybe the mayor is lying ???? If he is this makes the situation even worse.

        • Oh Geez August 14th, 2014 at 12:33

          I wouldn’t believe the police in this matter.

        • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:34

          That is the problem with secrecy. No one knows and at this point, who trusts the Mayor? Secrecy breeds mistrust and doubt. Of course he could be telling the truth. Of course he could be lying. Which is it?
          If you are a RWNJ you “believe” the police because they never do anything wrong and “being black” should obviously be a crime.

        • mea_mark August 14th, 2014 at 12:44

          If the Mayor had said the name is wrong and the real name is … I might find it more credible. As it is, I am still very suspicious.

          • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:48

            That’s at the bottom of the whole thing. How can any citizen of Ferguson trust anything these people say?
            Of course they are angry – upset – but at this point, diffusing the situation has to happen so cooler heads can prevail.

    • AnonymousSupporter August 14th, 2014 at 20:03

      Of coarse the police department will say the information is not correct to prevent any violence against the person. Its funny people don’t take this group seriously. Here terry read this, http://pastebin.com/icyzemqk

  8. Tolerance August 14th, 2014 at 12:22

    The name of the officer they gave out is not correct.

    • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:24

      Since no one knows that for sure, speculation that this is inaccurate will continue. No one KNOWS that it’s not the right name.

      All in the name of transparency.

      • The Third Archon August 14th, 2014 at 12:27

        Well presumably the police do in fact know if it’s the right name–they just cannot be trusted to honestly report what they know since they have an incentive to deflect if it ISN’T him and to deflect if it IS him (him being the name identified).

        • Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 12:33

          An interesting exchange on their page.
          |Trïll|✨ @SheeeeRatchetx

          @stlcountypd @TheAnonMessage when a regular joe shmo kills someone, their information is released…

          St. Louis County PD @stlcountypdFollow

          @SheeeeRatchetx We only release suspect information after the investigation is complete and charges have been issued.

          10:58 AM – 14 Aug 2014

          • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:51

            Which sounds exactly like the cover up that everyone thinks it is.

      • Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 12:28

        St. Louis County PD @stlcountypdFollow
        @TheAnonMessage Bryan Willman is not even an officer with Ferguson or St. Louis County PD. Do not release more info on this random citizen.
        10:45 AM – 14 Aug 2014

        • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:29

          And you choose to believe – that’s your choice. It may very well be wrong (as Anon is sometimes). On the other hand, THIS is what happens when people HIDE information. And since when has the PD proven itself “honest” in this entire case?

          • R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 12:31

            You mean flawed information being released because of the need to know immediately? This just brought the whole thing a step closer to being “Ferguson Ferguson FERGUSON!”

            • Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 12:38

              Take a look at Anonymous’ Project Chanology and all the deliberate misinformation they distributed then.

              • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:50

                Why? I’m not interested in spreading their info. It would seem that if the local police took the initiative to be honest, tell the truth .. it would calm things down a well.
                The ONLY people rioting last night were the cops. I think the people of Ferguson only want answers. And instead they are getting rubber bullets, concussion grenades and tear gas in their homes.
                Citizens have a right to question authority when a citizen is killed by a police officer.

            • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:46

              “Flawed information” – are you referring to Anonymous or are you referring to the PD?
              All the bullets came from the cops gun … did Brown magically grab the gun and shoot himself 8 times including at least once in the back?
              What are you referring to now?
              And why DO people pay attention to Anonymous?
              When a police officer paid for by the City shoots and kills an unarmed citizen (walking while black), yes the people have a need to know.
              When the police give the appearance of a coverup, yes the cops are doing something wrong. When they refuse to interview the witnesses, they are giving the appearance of doing something wrong.
              I would also be interested to know just what type of record this cop has? Or does no one have a “need to know” for that too?
              Public servant?
              Public payroll?
              Right to know exists.

              • geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 00:25

                You can’t believe everything you hear or read. Just because it’s in full color on TV or on the Internet doesn’t make it true. There are three sides to every story. One of them is the truth. How about if everyone exercised some patience and wait for the truth to be revealed?

          • Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 12:33

            Why do you choose to believe Anonymous? I can tell you from personal experience that they are more than willing to lie when they think they are on the right side of an issue.

            • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:38

              Did I say I believed Anonymous? From the very beginning I have stated that the police officers name should be released by the PD…as is usually the case. The PD is making themselves look ever dirtier as they continue to stonewall and drag their feet on even releasing the young man’s autopsy.
              Secrecy is bad – when you are a public servant and your department appears to be hiding everything. It makes people angry and makes them appear to be lying, obfuscating, delaying and protecting a bad cop.
              Stop and think about this a minute. WHO is making the cops look bad? They are doing a wonderful job of screwing themselves without anyone elses help.
              Anonymous is just trying for attention. They have their own agenda –

            • Tammy Minton Haley August 14th, 2014 at 15:10

              …almost all will lie if they believe their cause is high-minded enough–it’s classic “end justifies the means” behavior…humans being human, straining at the seams…

              what’s killing me with incredulity, is all this hoo-haw about “the militarization of the police”…where the hell has everybody been? i’ve been hearing about this since 9/11–but it started happening in the 80’s, with the big build-up on the failed and utterly lost “Drug War”…i think it started when cops began to be outgunned by cartels and such….then, 9/11 happened, and even these tiny hamlets started getting ridiculous amounts of battleground equipment…

              let’s not forget the NRA’s place in this–lax gun restrictions leads to the general populace being better armed than the cops…the police really don’t like that…it scares them, and rightly so….the cop shop shouldn’t have to have a rocket launcher to be better-equipped than the general citizenry…

              as usual, we’ve done this to ourselves by being short-sighted and led by fear–i won’t even mention lazy and apathetic (well, maybe i will)…we deserve the country we’ve got…let’s see if no abortion facilities available to exercise a constitutional right will bring people out to vote…no?…okay…how about the government spying on you?…no?…alright, what of the militarization of the police across the nation?…

              ah, poo…there’s my rant o’ the day… :)

              • Gary August 14th, 2014 at 17:31

                I think you’re right about militarization starting a while back. Under Raygun, more than likely. Then after 9/11, Bush/Cheney added fuel to the fire by awarding no-bid contracts to military contractors. Now there’s no war to make them tons o’bucks so they still have to sell their hardware somewhere. And who better to outfit against the black and brown inferior races? Why our police of course. I’m way out in WA state and I’m white, but I’m scared to death of these Rambos. This is at the core of these events and is the issue that needs to be resolved…and damn soon.

                • Tammy Minton Haley August 14th, 2014 at 21:50

                  these local departments are granted this equipment from “Homeland Security”–these tiny little cop shops have $250K “Mine Repellant Armored Patrols” (?)–the military invented them special for the IED’s in Irag/Afghanistan…

                  (reference “Rachel Maddow Show/MSNBC/08.14.14)

        • Heather Craft August 14th, 2014 at 15:28

          http://www.ddotomen.com/2014/08/14/prison-break-bryan-willman-police-officer-shot-killed-mike-brown-revealed/
          This shows that he is an Officer. I don’t trust what the Chief of police have to say. They are covering up for this murderer..

        • KatieAnnieOakley August 14th, 2014 at 16:32

          No, he is NOT a “police officer” – he is a Communications Supervisor with the Saint Ann PD in nearby Saint Ann.

          So, yes – they can claim that man is not an officer – he’s not.

          But they did not say “No, that is not the name of the person that shot Brown”.

      • Tolerance August 14th, 2014 at 12:31

        I think the name should be released immediately by the police dept, but the mayor was just on TV and said the name given out by Anonymous is wrong. Maybe the mayor is lying ???? If he is this makes the situation even worse.

        • Oh Geez August 14th, 2014 at 12:33

          I wouldn’t believe the police in this matter.

        • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:34

          That is the problem with secrecy. No one knows and at this point, who trusts the Mayor? Secrecy breeds mistrust and doubt. Of course he could be telling the truth. Of course he could be lying. Which is it?
          If you are a RWNJ you “believe” the police because they never do anything wrong and “being black” should obviously be a crime.

        • mea_mark August 14th, 2014 at 12:44

          If the Mayor had said the name is wrong and the real name is … I might find it more credible. As it is, I am still very suspicious.

          • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:48

            That’s at the bottom of the whole thing. How can any citizen of Ferguson trust anything these people say?
            Of course they are angry – upset – but at this point, diffusing the situation has to happen so cooler heads can prevail.

    • AnonymousSupporter August 14th, 2014 at 20:03

      Of coarse the police department will say the information is not correct to prevent any violence against the person. Its funny people don’t take this group seriously. Here terry read this, http://pastebin.com/icyzemqk

  9. Foundryman August 14th, 2014 at 12:38

    We deserve to know who the trigger man was, and we also deserve to now why the police is covering up with smoke clouds and teargas what’s happening there.
    We deserve to know why they are using armored military vehicles, camouflaged uniforms against unarmed American protesters.
    We deserve to know why people are being gassed standing in their own front yards.
    We deserve to know why children, some with breathing conditions, are being gassed while in their own homes.
    We deserve to know why there wasn’t any teargas and armored vehicles used against the Armed protesters at Bundy’s ranch who pointed weapons at the police.

    • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:40

      Good luck with all of that.
      Militarized police obviously tend to go all squirrelly when given REALLY big guns and weapons of destruction.
      Coming soon to a neighborhood near you!

      • Foundryman August 14th, 2014 at 12:42

        They are definitely giving us a clear view of why militarizing the police is a very bad idea, and needs reversed.

        • Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 12:45

          Amen to that!

          • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:47

            I could post that photo of the Flaccid Fool’s Sheriff Joes tank again … not sure if anyone knows how to drive it yet.

      • Sabrina Hawkins August 14th, 2014 at 20:01

        Thats what happens when you put a veteran who has spent the bulk of his adult life in Iraq and Afghanistan a gun and badge and control of American Citizenry.

        • geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 00:02

          That is wrong to say so. Not all Veterans are bad and I there are plenty police officers who have never been in the military. Besides, having a gun and wearing a badge doesn’t give you control of American Citizens. This was proved by the results at the Bundy Ranch and apparently by the protests that are now going on. The police don’t appear to be in control of much of anything in Ferguson. If they all packed up and left, the community would be begging for them to return within 24 hours.

  10. Foundryman August 14th, 2014 at 12:38

    We deserve to know who the trigger man was, and we also deserve to now why the police is covering up with smoke clouds and teargas what’s happening there.
    We deserve to know why they are using armored military vehicles, camouflaged uniforms against unarmed American protesters.
    We deserve to know why people are being gassed standing in their own front yards.
    We deserve to know why children, some with breathing conditions, are being gassed while in their own homes.
    We deserve to know why there wasn’t any teargas and armored vehicles used against the Armed protesters at Bundy’s ranch who pointed weapons at the police.

    • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:40

      Good luck with all of that.
      Militarized police obviously tend to go all squirrelly when given REALLY big guns and weapons of destruction.
      Coming soon to a neighborhood near you!

      • Foundryman August 14th, 2014 at 12:42

        They are definitely giving us a clear view of why militarizing the police is a very bad idea, and needs reversed.

        • Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 12:45

          Amen to that!

          • BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:47

            I could post that photo of the Flaccid Fool’s Sheriff Joes tank again … not sure if anyone knows how to drive it yet.

      • Sabrina Hawkins August 14th, 2014 at 20:01

        Thats what happens when you put a veteran who has spent the bulk of his adult life in Iraq and Afghanistan a gun and badge and control of American Citizenry.

        • geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 00:02

          That is wrong to say so. Not all Veterans are bad and I there are plenty police officers who have never been in the military. Besides, having a gun and wearing a badge doesn’t give you control of American Citizens. This was proved by the results at the Bundy Ranch and apparently by the protests that are now going on. The police don’t appear to be in control of much of anything in Ferguson. If they all packed up and left, the community would be begging for them to return within 24 hours.

  11. WellThereItIsThen August 14th, 2014 at 13:31

    The rioters’ behaviour is proof enough they can’t be trusted to know who the cop is.

    • Anomaly 100 August 14th, 2014 at 14:46

      Killing a teenager is what started the rioting.

      • geektinker August 14th, 2014 at 23:59

        The rioting had nothing to do with the killing of that teenager. Those who started the rioting and looting weren’t the same people as those protesting Mike Brown’s tragic death. The looters were people taking advantage of the situation to steal for their own gan. They are the ones who put the peaceful protesters at risk from being harmed by police.

        • Anomaly 100 August 15th, 2014 at 00:01

          Agreed but there are always predators in a situation like that. Remember the Rodney King incident?

          • geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 00:03

            Remember the riots after the Rodney King incident?

            • Anomaly 100 August 15th, 2014 at 00:18

              That’s what I was referring to.

              • geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 00:22

                Al Sharpton is in St. Louis as well. He’s as much a predator as anyone. In addition, the Black Panthers have arrived. Most of the people that you see protesting on the news aren’t even from Ferguson or even from the state of Missouri. I live close by. The actual residents of Ferguson are tired of it and just want the protesters to leave. They are knocking on random doors at 3 a.m. to ask for directions and water because they are from out of state. A co-worker of mine who is from there didn’t get any sleep for two nights earlier in the week and is now staying with her sister. The predators are literally running the citizens of Ferguson out of their own city.

                • Anomaly 100 August 15th, 2014 at 00:30

                  You almost make it sound like you’re inconvenienced by this teenager’s shooting death.

                  • geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 09:01

                    You almost make it sound like you want to intellectually contribute to this conversation.

                    • mea_mark August 15th, 2014 at 09:20

                      You sound like a troll that wants to be banned.

                    • geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 11:10

                      mea_mark, How would you advise me to respond to your post or the one from Anomaly 100?
                      Do the mods here simply delete the comments of and ban those who disagree with them?
                      One mod instigates with a lightly veiled personal attack aimed at my comment above and then another mod deletes my response? A response that did not use profanity or violate any rules of Disqus. If that’s the way you want to moderate your forum, then you’ve already completely lost your purpose to be here.

                    • R.J. Carter August 15th, 2014 at 11:31

                      I’m living proof that disparate and opposing thought is allowed here. Argue, debate — even snark if you must.

                      That being said: Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus.

                    • geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 11:33

                      My comment that was deleted was no more or less snarky than the comment I was replying to. ;)

                    • R.J. Carter August 15th, 2014 at 11:38

                      I saw it. And while I agree that the tone and words of it are repeated frequently from many posters here on both sides of the aisle… directing them at the hostess of the site might be considered “unwise.”

                    • mea_mark August 15th, 2014 at 11:45

                      Think of it as a warning. Insulting the authors or mods even without abusive language can get you in trouble.

                    • geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 12:14

                      In that case, I would suggest that the author and the mods should follow their own rules towards their guests.

                  • geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 11:35

                    Before this is over, I fear that everyone in this country could become inconvenienced by this teenager’s shooting death.

                • R.J. Carter August 15th, 2014 at 09:25

                  Your story jibes with the stories I hear from my Ferguson co-workers.

    • allison1050 August 14th, 2014 at 17:22

      Silly you.

    • allison1050 August 14th, 2014 at 17:22

      Silly you.

  12. WellThereItIsThen August 14th, 2014 at 13:31

    The rioters’ behaviour is proof enough they can’t be trusted to know who the cop is.

    • Anomaly 100 August 14th, 2014 at 14:46

      Killing a teenager is what started the rioting.

      • geektinker August 14th, 2014 at 23:59

        The rioting had nothing to do with the killing of that teenager. Those who started the rioting and looting weren’t the same people as those protesting Mike Brown’s tragic death. The looters were people taking advantage of the situation to steal for their own gan. They are the ones who put the peaceful protesters at risk from being harmed by police.

        • Anomaly 100 August 15th, 2014 at 00:01

          Agreed but there are always predators in a situation like that. Remember the Rodney King incident?

          • geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 00:03

            Remember the riots after the Rodney King incident?

            • Anomaly 100 August 15th, 2014 at 00:18

              That’s what I was referring to.

              • geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 00:22

                Al Sharpton is in St. Louis as well. He’s as much a predator as anyone. In addition, the Black Panthers have arrived. Most of the people that you see protesting on the news aren’t even from Ferguson or even from the state of Missouri. I live close by. The actual residents of Ferguson are tired of it and just want the protesters to leave. They are knocking on random doors at 3 a.m. to ask for directions and water because they are from out of state. A co-worker of mine who is from there didn’t get any sleep for two nights earlier in the week and is now staying with her sister. The predators are literally running the citizens of Ferguson out of their own city.

                • Anomaly 100 August 15th, 2014 at 00:30

                  You almost make it sound like you’re inconvenienced by this teenager’s shooting death.

                  • mea_mark August 15th, 2014 at 09:20

                    You sound like a troll that wants to be banned.

                    • geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 11:10

                      mea_mark, How would you advise me to respond to your post or the one from Anomaly 100?
                      Do the mods here simply delete the comments of and ban those who disagree with them?
                      One mod instigates with a lightly veiled personal attack aimed at my comment above and then another mod deletes my response? A response that did not use profanity or violate any rules of Disqus. If that’s the way you want to moderate your forum, then you’ve already completely lost your purpose to be here.

                    • R.J. Carter August 15th, 2014 at 11:31

                      I’m living proof that disparate and opposing thought is allowed here. Argue, debate — even snark if you must.

                      That being said: Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus.

                    • geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 11:33

                      My comment that was deleted was no more or less snarky than the comment I was replying to. ;)

                    • R.J. Carter August 15th, 2014 at 11:38

                      I saw it. And while I agree that the tone and words of it are repeated frequently from many posters here on both sides of the aisle… directing them at the hostess of the site might be considered “unwise.”

                    • mea_mark August 15th, 2014 at 11:45

                      Think of it as a warning. Insulting the authors or mods even without abusive language can get you in trouble.

                    • geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 12:14

                      In that case, I would suggest that the author and the mods should follow their own rules towards their guests.

                  • geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 11:35

                    Before this is over, I fear that everyone in this country could become inconvenienced by this teenager’s shooting death.

                • R.J. Carter August 15th, 2014 at 09:25

                  Your story jibes with the stories I hear from my Ferguson co-workers.

    • allison1050 August 14th, 2014 at 17:22

      Silly you.

  13. thehossdriver . August 14th, 2014 at 13:54

    Why do you need the trigger man’s name? So you can go burn his house down without due process? There would be no need for militarization if your protests were peaceful and non-violent. What do you expect when millions of dollars of fire, looting, and vandalism are being used on other ‘innocent’ victims?

    • supersajin August 14th, 2014 at 15:32

      WHY? So a real investigation can begin, unless you trust the local police to do the job. WHY? so we can shine a light on this murderers activities, did he have a history of discriminatory posts or tweets? We may never know because i’m sure all his social media accounts have been scrubbed by now.

      • geektinker August 14th, 2014 at 23:56

        The local police department isn’t conducting the investigation. They immediately turned that over to the County police. The Department of Justice and the FBI have launched coinciding investigations. The State Police have now been called in to handle the police presence at the protests. The State Police Capt. Johnson is marching with the protesters in his normal police uniform. pic.twitter.com/tUsZNIltNv

    • allison1050 August 14th, 2014 at 17:21

      What “millions of dollars” are you trying to refer to? There is NO NEED for militarization P E R I O D…get it or are you 1 of the many still willing to give up more of your rights as an American?

    • allison1050 August 14th, 2014 at 17:21

      What “millions of dollars” are you trying to refer to? There is NO NEED for militarization P E R I O D…get it or are you 1 of the many still willing to give up more of your rights as an American?

    • Sabrina Hawkins August 14th, 2014 at 19:58

      oh really? Have you forgotten the police mob which descended on Zuccotti Park already? You people who are advocating for continued peaceful protests are being paid by someone to continue saying it.

    • AnonymousSupporter August 14th, 2014 at 20:01

      Anonymous wants the man arrested and charged for murder.

      • geektinker August 14th, 2014 at 23:53

        Anonymous needs to have the patience to wait for due process. If they can’t do that, they have already lost their effectiveness.

        • IAMMIKEBROWN August 15th, 2014 at 06:32

          THERES REALLY NO INVESTIGATION NEEDED WHEN OVER 10+ PEOPLE IN THE CANFIELD APARTMENT COMPLEX SAW MIKE BROWN GET SHOT WITH HIS HANDS UP BEGGING FOR HIS LIFE… KILLED IN COLD BLOOD BY THIS OFFICER THEY’RE PROTECTING !! IF ONLY YOU WERE THERE…

          • geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 09:13

            To say that there is no investigation needed is ridiculous, regardless if 100 people witnessed the incident. If the officer is guilty of wrongdoing, He could get a mistrial or acquittal because of an improperly prepared case.
            If multiple witnesses were testifying that you had killed a man, I’m positive that you would want an investigation and a fair trial by a jury of your peers.
            If we, as a society, cannot find a way to remain impartial and look at both sides of an issue. Then society has crumbled in failure.
            When a man is considered guilty until he proves his innocence instead of innocent until proven guilty, then we have abandoned the very foundation upon which this country was built.
            What you are advocating against the officer is exactly what we are attempting to prevent from happening to any other young men like Mike Brown in the present or the future.

    • DenitaEllis123 August 15th, 2014 at 19:00

      Why not? He wasn’t scared to murder that child,so why in the hell would be scared to let his name be known especially if he feels he didnt do a damn thing wrong. Umph!!!! Privacy my ass

  14. thehossdriver . August 14th, 2014 at 13:54

    Why do you need the trigger man’s name? So you can go burn his house down without due process? There would be no need for militarization if your protests were peaceful and non-violent. What do you expect when millions of dollars of fire, looting, and vandalism are being used on other ‘innocent’ victims?

    • supersajin August 14th, 2014 at 15:32

      WHY? So a real investigation can begin, unless you trust the local police to do the job. WHY? so we can shine a light on this murderers activities, did he have a history of discriminatory posts or tweets? We may never know because i’m sure all his social media accounts have been scrubbed by now.

      • geektinker August 14th, 2014 at 23:56

        The local police department isn’t conducting the investigation. They immediately turned that over to the County police. The Department of Justice and the FBI have launched coinciding investigations. The State Police have now been called in to handle the police presence at the protests. The State Police Capt. Johnson is marching with the protesters in his normal police uniform. pic.twitter.com/tUsZNIltNv

    • allison1050 August 14th, 2014 at 17:21

      What “millions of dollars” are you trying to refer to? There is NO NEED for militarization P E R I O D…get it or are you 1 of the many still willing to give up more of your rights as an American?

    • Sabrina Hawkins August 14th, 2014 at 19:58

      oh really? Have you forgotten the police mob which descended on Zuccotti Park already? You people who are advocating for continued peaceful protests are being paid by someone to continue saying it.

    • AnonymousSupporter August 14th, 2014 at 20:01

      Anonymous wants the man arrested and charged for murder.

      • geektinker August 14th, 2014 at 23:53

        Anonymous needs to have the patience to wait for due process. If they can’t do that, they have already lost their effectiveness.

        • IAMMIKEBROWN August 15th, 2014 at 06:32

          THERES REALLY NO INVESTIGATION NEEDED WHEN OVER 10+ PEOPLE IN THE CANFIELD APARTMENT COMPLEX SAW MIKE BROWN GET SHOT WITH HIS HANDS UP BEGGING FOR HIS LIFE… KILLED IN COLD BLOOD BY THIS OFFICER THEY’RE PROTECTING !! IF ONLY YOU WERE THERE…

          • geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 09:13

            To say that there is no investigation needed is ridiculous, regardless if 100 people witnessed the incident. If the officer is guilty of wrongdoing, He could get a mistrial or acquittal because of an improperly prepared case.
            If multiple witnesses were testifying that you had killed a man, I’m positive that you would want an investigation and a fair trial by a jury of your peers.
            If we, as a society, cannot find a way to remain impartial and look at both sides of an issue. Then society has crumbled in failure.
            When a man is considered guilty until he proves his innocence instead of innocent until proven guilty, then we have abandoned the very foundation upon which this country was built.
            What you are advocating against the officer is exactly what we are attempting to prevent from happening to any other young men like Mike Brown in the present or the future.

    • DenitaEllis123 August 15th, 2014 at 19:00

      Why not? He wasn’t scared to murder that child,so why in the hell would be scared to let his name be known especially if he feels he didnt do a damn thing wrong. Umph!!!! Privacy my ass

      • thehossdriver . August 17th, 2014 at 09:34

        You gotta unruly blacks running around with guns, looting, and burning shit down… the fact that you’ve already labeled him a murderer is he and his family need to fear their safety. what stops some crazed fucktard fromantic taking out vigilante before all the facts are out?

  15. R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 14:58

    Sunshine Law not applicable to police incidents.

    Lawsuit from ACLU is not a law.

  16. TEEJAYZ August 14th, 2014 at 15:44

    Bad move for all concerned. First, ANYONE can say they are ‘Anonymous” and can post the info of ANYONE they choose. And what’s the end game here? Throwing red meat to a crowd for some street justice? Are we devolving in to the Middle East? Is it time for Sharia law?

    I was in L.A. for the riots and have a pretty good understanding of mob mentality. Ferguson isn’t Los Angeles and the looting was obviously done by scum who just recognized an opportunity for free stuff. What needs to take place is continued PEACEFUL protests, which is our right, and when the police behave inappropriately or illegally they need to be taken down by the law. It looks like that is what is going to take place and when/if it does, a LARGER more important message will be sent.

    • geektinker August 14th, 2014 at 23:52

      I couldn’t agree with you more.

  17. TEEJAYZ August 14th, 2014 at 15:44

    Bad move for all concerned. First, ANYONE can say they are ‘Anonymous” and can post the info of ANYONE they choose. And what’s the end game here? Throwing red meat to a crowd for some street justice? Are we devolving in to the Middle East? Is it time for Sharia law?

    I was in L.A. for the riots and have a pretty good understanding of mob mentality. While Ferguson is more like Mayberry than Los Angeles, the looting was obviously done by scum who just recognized an opportunity for free stuff. But that was pretty much what burning down South Central was about too. It wasn’t protest. It was opportunity.

    What needs to take place is continued PEACEFUL protests, which is our right, and when the police behave inappropriately or illegally they need to be taken down by the law. It looks like that is what is going to take place and when/if it does, a LARGER more important message will be sent.

    • geektinker August 14th, 2014 at 23:52

      I couldn’t agree with you more.

  18. damorganjr August 14th, 2014 at 17:08

    LOL! their account was suspended by twitter. That’s what you get when you try to fuel more riots and looting of c-stores. Also, they could have gotten that person killed.

    • ExPat ExLawyer August 14th, 2014 at 18:54

      No, it’s the police who are fomenting misinformation by acting more secret than the Stasi.

      • damorganjr October 12th, 2014 at 10:52

        Looking back on this, I think we can agree that you were wrong ExPat ExLawyer. The police were just doing an investigation. They are actually not obligated to keep you informed in their progress.

    • AnonymousSupporter August 14th, 2014 at 20:00

      Anonymous doesn’t condone violence or looting, peaceful protest is whats proposed in such situations, but when the time comes we will stand together against the crooked government.

      • drnimrod August 16th, 2014 at 00:20

        Oh god please shut your fucking face.

  19. damorganjr August 14th, 2014 at 17:08

    LOL! their account was suspended by twitter. That’s what you get when you try to fuel more riots and looting of c-stores. Also, they could have gotten that person killed.

  20. damorganjr August 14th, 2014 at 17:08

    LOL! their account was suspended by twitter. That’s what you get when you try to fuel more riots and looting of c-stores. Also, they could have gotten that person killed.

    • ExPat ExLawyer August 14th, 2014 at 18:54

      No, it’s the police who are fomenting misinformation by acting more secret than the Stasi.

      • damorganjr October 12th, 2014 at 10:52

        Looking back on this, I think we can agree that you were wrong ExPat ExLawyer. The police were just doing an investigation. They are actually not obligated to keep you informed in their progress.

    • AnonymousSupporter August 14th, 2014 at 20:00

      Anonymous doesn’t condone violence or looting, peaceful protest is whats proposed in such situations, but when the time comes we will stand together against the crooked government.

      • drnimrod August 16th, 2014 at 00:20

        Oh god please shut your fucking face.

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