Pregnant Woman Gets Apparent NYPD Chokehold After Grilling On Sidewalk
Click here for reuse options!The New York Daily News, which published several photos of a police officer wrapping his arm around 27-year-old Rosan Miller’s neck as Miller’s young daughter looks on, reports that police found Miller preparing food outside her East New York apartment building Saturday, “in violation of local law.” It’s unclear exactly what ensued, but Miller, her husband Moses Miller, and her brother John Miller were all arrested — Rosan for disorderly conduct, Moses for resisting arrest and obstruction of justice, and John for harassment and obstruction of justice.
Former city councilman Charles Barron told the News he contacted police to “expedite” the Millers’ release:
“This was all over a grill,” Barron said. “This is about grilling in front of her house.”
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By: Cheston Catalano
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40 responses to Pregnant Woman Gets Apparent NYPD Chokehold After Grilling On Sidewalk
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Teddy Simon July 28th, 2014 at 17:01
From what I’m seeing that is not a choke hold . Maybe there is more but just from this NO
mea_mark July 28th, 2014 at 17:19
There are some more pictures here … http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/pregnant-woman-apparently-put-chokehold-article-1.1882755?asdl;fkj&utm_content=buffer9e85a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw It does seem a little extreme however you look at it though. Come on, they were grilling ouitside, how big a crime can that be?
Eric Trommater July 28th, 2014 at 17:21
The guy they strangled to death was being hauled in for loose cigarettes. It does seem like a lot of violence over some pretty petty crimes.
raincheck1956 July 29th, 2014 at 09:54
Exactly…
Teddy Simon July 28th, 2014 at 17:01
From what I’m seeing that is not a choke hold . Maybe there is more but just from this NO
mea_mark July 28th, 2014 at 17:19
There are some more pictures here … http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/pregnant-woman-apparently-put-chokehold-article-1.1882755?asdl;fkj&utm_content=buffer9e85a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw It does seem a little extreme however you look at it though. Come on, they were grilling ouitside, how big a crime can that be?
Eric Trommater July 28th, 2014 at 17:21
The guy they strangled to death was being hauled in for loose cigarettes. It does seem like a lot of violence over some pretty petty crimes.
raincheck July 29th, 2014 at 09:54
Exactly…
Red Eye Robot July 28th, 2014 at 17:31
Bill De Blasio’s new more liberal NYCPD. Choke holds have replaced Stop and Frisk!
raincheck1956 July 29th, 2014 at 09:53
Really?… De Blasio’s fault?
Red Eye Robot July 28th, 2014 at 17:31
Bill De Blasio’s new more liberal NYCPD. Choke holds have replaced Stop and Frisk!
raincheck July 29th, 2014 at 09:53
Really?… De Blasio’s fault?
Tommy6860 July 28th, 2014 at 17:36
Wow! Seriously law enforcement people, are there not more serious crimes to prosecute? Just talk the woman into dismantling the grill or offer the alternative with a fine for violating a code and move on. Or is this maybe a crime of grilling out while black?
mea_mark July 28th, 2014 at 17:44
You would think that maybe just having water on hand would be good enough. I really don’t know what they are thinking up there in New York. People have to eat and if it is too hot inside to cook and you are poor, you cook outside. Is there a law targeted against poor people cooking outside?
Tommy6860 July 28th, 2014 at 17:50
I agree with your sentiments, but throwing water on an active grill (if this is what you mean) is not a good idea. Imagine tossing cold water on a light bulb when it’s on, you could get the same effect. But yes, you gave a possible situation where temperature inside were too high to tolerate indoor cooking. Maybe it is a choice of not using electricity and using up the coal or gas they have in the grill.
mea_mark July 28th, 2014 at 19:23
Geez, you don’t have to throw it on all at once. Has the general populace forgotten how to manage a small fire?
raincheck1956 July 29th, 2014 at 09:52
I’ve used a small amount of water many times to cool off the coals… no problem!
Tommy6860 July 28th, 2014 at 17:36
Wow! Seriously law enforcement people, are there not more serious crimes to prosecute? Just talk the woman into dismantling the grill or offer the alternative with a fine for violating a code and move on. Or is this maybe a crime of grilling out while black?
mea_mark July 28th, 2014 at 17:44
You would think that maybe just having water on hand would be good enough. I really don’t know what they are thinking up there in New York. People have to eat and if it is too hot inside to cook and you are poor, you cook outside. Is there a law targeted against poor people cooking outside?
Tommy6860 July 28th, 2014 at 17:50
I agree with your sentiments, but throwing water on an active grill (if this is what you mean) is not a good idea. Imagine tossing cold water on a light bulb when it’s on, you could get the same effect. But yes, you gave a possible situation where temperature inside were too high to tolerate indoor cooking. Maybe it is a choice of not using electricity and using up the coal or gas they have in the grill.
mea_mark July 28th, 2014 at 19:23
Geez, you don’t have to throw it on all at once. Has the general populace forgotten how to manage a small fire?
raincheck July 29th, 2014 at 09:52
I’ve used a small amount of water many times to cool off the coals… no problem!
Carla Akins July 28th, 2014 at 17:40
I don’t know if I would call it a chokehold but certainly this escalated to something it shouldn’r have. It’s an infraction, a violation not criminal behavior. Law enforcement need better interaction skills in these situations. We see too often the rush to place someone in handcuff and arrested as a first response to a situation instead of the last.
Tommy6860 July 28th, 2014 at 18:11
Exactly, would a speeding ticket warrant some kind of physical altercation with issuing law enforcement officer?
Carla Akins July 28th, 2014 at 18:32
No, of course not but certainly a speeding car has a higher probability of becoming, or creating a dangerous situation.
Tommy6860 July 28th, 2014 at 18:36
Oh I agree, but analogous nevertheless, and as a law enforcement officer, would you warrant that worthy of a physical altercation?
Carla Akins July 28th, 2014 at 19:31
I think a reasonable person could make that determination. In cases like this, or thee loose cigarette case officers should be able to engage the suspect. I realize some resist and make the situation worse – but many do so out of fear. If a concern is voiced properly and a discussion ensues, there’s a much higher probability of a positive resolution. Of course, some crimes, or the appearance of a serious crime that always involves an immediate takedown – this just wasn’t it.
Carla Akins July 28th, 2014 at 17:40
I don’t know if I would call it a chokehold but certainly this escalated to something it shouldn’r have. It’s an infraction, a violation not criminal behavior. Law enforcement need better interaction skills in these situations. We see too often the rush to place someone in handcuff and arrested as a first response to a situation instead of the last.
Tommy6860 July 28th, 2014 at 18:11
Exactly, would a speeding ticket warrant some kind of physical altercation with issuing law enforcement officer?
Carla Akins July 28th, 2014 at 18:32
No, of course not but certainly a speeding car has a higher probability of becoming, or creating a dangerous situation.
Tommy6860 July 28th, 2014 at 18:36
Oh I agree, but analogous nevertheless, and as a law enforcement officer, would you warrant that worthy of a physical altercation?
Carla Akins July 28th, 2014 at 19:31
I think a reasonable person could make that determination. In cases like this, or thee loose cigarette case officers should be able to engage the suspect. I realize some resist and make the situation worse – but many do so out of fear. If a concern is voiced properly and a discussion ensues, there’s a much higher probability of a positive resolution. Of course, some crimes, or the appearance of a serious crime that always involves an immediate takedown – this just wasn’t it.
fantagor July 28th, 2014 at 18:57
Guilty of being pregnant while black. Choke her, Danno.
fantagor July 28th, 2014 at 18:57
Guilty of being pregnant while black. Choke her, Danno.
Hirightnow July 28th, 2014 at 20:58
Grilling While Black?
GWB?
Why does this sound stupid to me?
Hirightnow July 28th, 2014 at 20:58
Grilling While Black?
GWB?
Why does this sound stupid to me?
David Carr July 28th, 2014 at 22:10
Why can’t the police just Politely state the case (broken law) and hand them a citation and go? They could have done the same thing with Eric Garner in the “loosy” cigarette case. It’s a culture that is out of control.
David Carr July 28th, 2014 at 22:10
Why can’t the police just Politely state the case (broken law) and hand them a citation and go? They could have done the same thing with Eric Garner in the “loosy” cigarette case. It’s a culture that is out of control.
raincheck1956 July 29th, 2014 at 10:00
Officers often move too fast…. it would be natural to resist for a moment until you understood what was going on…Someone might resist having arms twisted in un-natural positions, or try to keep themselves from being slammed on the ground… Police Officers are trained to escalate!
raincheck July 29th, 2014 at 10:00
Officers often move too fast…. it would be natural to resist for a moment until you understood what was going on…Someone might resist having arms twisted in un-natural positions, or try to keep themselves from being slammed on the ground… Police Officers are trained to escalate!