President (Reagan) Criticizes Right Wing Response To Downed Airline
From his diaries:
He also complained about sniping from his right flank.
“Short of going to war, what would they have us do?” he asked in a speech.
“I know that some of our critics have sounded off that somehow we haven’t exacted enough vengeance,” Reagan said. “Well, vengeance isn’t the name of the game in this.”
It wasn’t enough for some conservatives. “The administration is pathetic when it says this proves the President’s words have been right all along,” declared columnist George Will, referring to Reagan’s anti-Soviet rhetoric. “We didn’t elect a dictionary. We elected a president and it’s time for him to act.”
Probably pretty similar to what President Obama is thinking right now.
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Jeff Allen July 22nd, 2014 at 10:26
That awkward moment when you realize your President is basically phoning it in and your only defense is to scour the archives of past presidents to create some sort of justification as opposed to putting together a cogent argument as to how he handled it in a clear, decisive, and Presidential manner.
arc99 July 22nd, 2014 at 10:58
That awkward moment when critics of the President are shown to lack the guts and integrity to state exactly what else should be done, how many American lives should be put at risk, how many hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars should be spent, exactly what tangible benefits will accrue to the United States, and why we have an obligation that is greater than either the Dutch or the Australians or the Malaysians who lost far more than we did in this recent tragedy.
Jeff Allen July 22nd, 2014 at 11:09
Again, instead of addressing the issue, go off on some unrelated tangent. This is not about what action should be taken, this is about Presidential response to major events. The tides of liberal media support are clearly turning. What they used to call “cool and measured” they now refer to as “disconnected and uninvolved”. The overarching theme of Obama’s presidency of late is one of being semi-retired. The border crisis and the Malaysian jet incident are just two of the recent opportunities that Obama has had to respond in a way befitting a world leader and when you have lost your biggest cheering section (MSNBC of note) then it’s time to begin asking questions. In a rare, impromptu news conference the other day (you know those moments when a President has something important, breaking, or urgent to say) he basically repeated old platitudes that amounted to zero substance. It’s ok to scratch your heads and wonder what’s up, many on the left are already doing so…finally.
Hirightnow July 22nd, 2014 at 11:32
You lost me at “liberal media”
You lost any credibility at “Jeff Allen”.
Jeff Allen July 22nd, 2014 at 12:16
such a substantive response
Hirightnow July 22nd, 2014 at 22:21
You actually deserve less, but I’m feeling generous today.
Jeff Allen July 23rd, 2014 at 09:42
Thank you for the generosity
cwazycajun July 23rd, 2014 at 10:19
dont you wish you had as you call a substantive response???
Jeff Allen July 23rd, 2014 at 10:43
How old are you? 12?
jasperjava July 24th, 2014 at 08:09
Thus, from a guy who hates the President so much, that he obsessed about his “tone”.
Face it, you’ve hated his tone from Day One. His skintone, that is.
Jeff Allen July 24th, 2014 at 08:51
Tossing out random accusations of racism is lazy and childish. Using my posts and responses on this site, back it up.
jasperjava July 24th, 2014 at 08:56
Just trying to understand your irrational hatred for President Obama. When you start talking about his “tone”, you make it easy.
Jeff Allen July 24th, 2014 at 09:37
I should have clarified by using terms like “apartment”, “angry”, “Chicago”, or any of the other newly minted dog whistles. Again, crying racism for the sake of racism when it is not supported is lazy and childish. It certainly does nothing to further progress in fighting real instances of racism.
ChrisVosburg July 22nd, 2014 at 14:29
Short of going to war, Jeff, what would you have him do?
Jeff Allen July 22nd, 2014 at 17:47
Again, it is not the action but the tone, tenor, and engagement of the response. What had just been established was that any fragmented, rag tag terror group can get a hold of relatively simple weaponry and shoot down commercial airliners. The impact of that act on other budding terror organizations alone requires an immediate and clear response…not a lackadaisical “it looks like it might be a tragedy, now watch this drive (or burger, or photo op that I don’t like)”.
ChrisVosburg July 22nd, 2014 at 18:01
That’s it? You don’t care for his tone? You poor thing, stop sniffling, pull the handkerchief from your sleeve and dry your tears, and give your nose a good blow while you’re at it.
For a guy who does nothing but bitch endlessly about a lack of substance in others’ comments, you’ve got a lot of nerve.
Jeff Allen July 23rd, 2014 at 09:41
Politicians, pundits, media, advisors, etc. are always talking about the importance of “optics”. The optics were flat out poor on this one. If you watch MSNBC at all you’ll find I’m not alone.
I_B_ME July 28th, 2014 at 23:22
BLA BLA BLA you are a gas bag of no ideas
Ghostie July 22nd, 2014 at 15:30
Fine, Jeff. I’m sure if you ask nicely Obama will let YOU push the big red button that will start WWIII.
Jeff Allen July 22nd, 2014 at 17:50
nice leap in logic
jasperjava July 24th, 2014 at 08:04
You’re the one who is being absurd.
President Obama IS handling this in a clear, decisive, and Presidential manner.
It’s only your bigoted hate that makes you see it otherwise.
Jeff Allen July 24th, 2014 at 08:49
Given the responses and posts of mine you have read on this site, please support the bigotry charge.
jasperjava July 24th, 2014 at 09:03
You criticise President Obama over things that previous Presidents have done. Your criticisms are almost always without foundation, and seem to spring from some kind of irrational antipathy.
You complain about the President’s “tone”. You should look at your *own* tone, which is one of endless, bitter hatred.
Jeff Allen July 24th, 2014 at 09:40
If criticism equates to hatred then you are engaged in an epic display of irony on this site when you attempt to tag others as hateful.
I_B_ME July 28th, 2014 at 23:21
Jeff we get it, you think like a child and act like a child and this is for adults, get your diaper changed, go take a nap then go back to your cartoons, we have things to discus here and you are the the screaming baby in the room.
Jeff Allen July 29th, 2014 at 01:27
Way to be right on top of things, you are only about 5 days behind, but if it makes you feel better, go for it.
I_B_ME July 29th, 2014 at 01:29
I was busy and felt like slumming, so I replied to you, kinda of like picking up trash.
Jeff Allen July 29th, 2014 at 01:35
Well I for one appreciate your display of intellectual acumen.
I_B_ME July 29th, 2014 at 01:43
LOL and I think it is funny that you, can type with your head shoved so far up your @ss
kevin11falcon July 22nd, 2014 at 10:26
????? lost on this
Abby Normal July 22nd, 2014 at 10:34
Wingnuts attacked Reagan for not doing enough when the USSR shot down the Korean airliner, just like the wingnuts are attacking Obama for allegedly not doing enough now.
fancypants July 23rd, 2014 at 21:49
There were not enough questions directed at john Mccain on this topic when he was shot down over south viet-nam.
If we can get him to answer on video ? we can play it over and over again to the rw ding bats.
jasperjava July 24th, 2014 at 08:17
I know! Let’s shoot down an Aeroflot airliner full of innocent civilians! That’ll learn ’em!
Jeff Allen July 22nd, 2014 at 10:26
That awkward moment when you realize your President is basically phoning it in and your only defense is to scour the archives of past presidents to create some sort of justification as opposed to putting together a cogent argument as to how he handled it in a clear, decisive, and Presidential manner.
arc99 July 22nd, 2014 at 10:58
That awkward moment when critics of the President are shown to lack the guts and integrity to state exactly what else should be done, how many American lives should be put at risk, how many hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars should be spent, exactly what tangible benefits will accrue to the United States, and why we have an obligation that is greater than either the Dutch or the Australians or the Malaysians who lost far more than we did in this recent tragedy.
Jeff Allen July 22nd, 2014 at 11:09
Again, instead of addressing the issue, go off on some unrelated tangent. This is not about what action should be taken, this is about Presidential response to major events. The tides of liberal media support are clearly turning. What they used to call “cool and measured” they now refer to as “disconnected and uninvolved”. The overarching theme of Obama’s presidency of late is one of being semi-retired. The border crisis and the Malaysian jet incident are just two of the recent opportunities that Obama has had to respond in a way befitting a world leader and when you have lost your biggest cheering section (MSNBC of note) then it’s time to begin asking questions. In a rare, impromptu news conference the other day (you know those moments when a President has something important, breaking, or urgent to say) he basically repeated old platitudes that amounted to zero substance. It’s ok to scratch your heads and wonder what’s up, many on the left are already doing so…finally.
Hirightnow July 22nd, 2014 at 11:32
You lost me at “liberal media”
You lost any credibility at “Jeff Allen”.
Jeff Allen July 22nd, 2014 at 12:16
such a substantive response
Hirightnow July 22nd, 2014 at 22:21
You actually deserve less, but I’m feeling generous today.
Jeff Allen July 23rd, 2014 at 09:42
Thank you for the generosity
cwazycajun July 23rd, 2014 at 10:19
dont you wish you had as you call a substantive response???
Jeff Allen July 23rd, 2014 at 10:43
How old are you? 12?
jasperjava July 24th, 2014 at 08:09
This, from a guy who hates the President so much, that he obsesses about his “tone”.
Face it, you’ve hated his tone from Day One. His skintone, that is.
Jeff Allen July 24th, 2014 at 08:51
Tossing out random accusations of racism is lazy and childish. Using my posts and responses on this site, back it up.
jasperjava July 24th, 2014 at 08:56
Just trying to understand your irrational hatred for President Obama. When you start talking about his “tone”, you make it easy.
Jeff Allen July 24th, 2014 at 09:37
I should have clarified by using terms like “apartment”, “angry”, “Chicago”, or any of the other newly minted dog whistles. Again, crying racism for the sake of racism when it is not supported is lazy and childish. It certainly does nothing to further progress in fighting real instances of racism.
ChrisVosburg July 22nd, 2014 at 14:29
Short of going to war, Jeff, what would you have him do?
Jeff Allen July 22nd, 2014 at 17:47
Again, it is not the action but the tone, tenor, and engagement of the response. What had just been established was that any fragmented, rag tag terror group can get a hold of relatively simple weaponry and shoot down commercial airliners. The impact of that act on other budding terror organizations alone requires an immediate and clear response…not a lackadaisical “it looks like it might be a tragedy, now watch this drive (or burger, or photo op that I don’t like)”.
ChrisVosburg July 22nd, 2014 at 18:01
That’s it? You don’t care for his tone? You poor thing, stop sniffling, pull the handkerchief from your sleeve and dry your tears, and give your nose a good blow while you’re at it.
For a guy who does nothing but bitch endlessly about a lack of substance in others’ comments, you’ve got a lot of nerve.
Jeff Allen July 23rd, 2014 at 09:41
Politicians, pundits, media, advisors, etc. are always talking about the importance of “optics”. The optics were flat out poor on this one. If you watch MSNBC at all you’ll find I’m not alone.
I_B_ME July 28th, 2014 at 23:22
BLA BLA BLA you are a gas bag of no ideas
Ghostie July 22nd, 2014 at 15:30
Fine, Jeff. I’m sure if you ask nicely Obama will let YOU push the big red button that will start WWIII.
Jeff Allen July 22nd, 2014 at 17:50
nice leap in logic
jasperjava July 24th, 2014 at 08:04
You’re the one who is being absurd.
President Obama IS handling this in a clear, decisive, and Presidential manner.
It’s only your bigoted hate that makes you see it otherwise.
Jeff Allen July 24th, 2014 at 08:49
Given the responses and posts of mine you have read on this site, please support the bigotry charge.
jasperjava July 24th, 2014 at 09:03
You criticise President Obama over things that previous Presidents have done. Your criticisms are almost always without foundation, and seem to spring from some kind of irrational antipathy.
You complain about the President’s “tone”. You should look at your *own* tone, which is one of endless, bitter hatred.
Jeff Allen July 24th, 2014 at 09:40
If criticism equates to hatred then you are engaged in an epic display of irony on this site when you attempt to tag others as hateful.
I_B_ME July 28th, 2014 at 23:21
Jeff we get it, you think like a child and act like a child and this is for adults, get your diaper changed, go take a nap then go back to your cartoons, we have things to discus here and you are the the screaming baby in the room.
Jeff Allen July 29th, 2014 at 01:27
Way to be right on top of things, you are only about 5 days behind, but if it makes you feel better, go for it.
I_B_ME July 29th, 2014 at 01:29
I was busy and felt like slumming, so I replied to you, kinda of like picking up trash.
Jeff Allen July 29th, 2014 at 01:35
Well I for one appreciate your display of intellectual acumen.
I_B_ME July 29th, 2014 at 01:43
LOL and I think it is funny that you, can type with your head shoved so far up your @ss
kevin11falcon July 22nd, 2014 at 10:26
????? lost on this
Abby Normal July 22nd, 2014 at 10:34
Wingnuts attacked Reagan for not doing enough when the USSR shot down the Korean airliner, just like the wingnuts are attacking Obama for allegedly not doing enough now.
fancypants July 23rd, 2014 at 21:49
There were not enough questions directed at john Mccain on this topic when he was shot down over south viet-nam.
If we can get him to answer on video ? we can play it over and over again to the rw ding bats.
jasperjava July 24th, 2014 at 08:17
I know! Let’s shoot down an Aeroflot airliner full of innocent civilians! That’ll learn ’em!
Abby Normal July 22nd, 2014 at 10:32
“Short of going to war, what would they have us do?” he asked in a speech.
Reagan’s comment was correct. And Obama is doing everything he can do now. In fact, he’s imposed much harsher sanctions on Russia than it would appear Europe is willing to do.
The fact is, Obama could find a cure for cancer, bring unemployment down to zero, eliminate the national debt and poverty and the tightie righties would still hate him. Such is the irrational mind.
edmeyer_able July 22nd, 2014 at 10:35
Talk about irony…….http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/europe/140721/mh17-europe-eu-european-union-russia
mea_mark July 22nd, 2014 at 11:47
Don’t you mean … http://www.alan.com/2014/07/22/mh17-is-changing-eus-game-on-russia/ Come on show some loyalty. lol :-)
edmeyer_able July 22nd, 2014 at 13:20
Wanted to post from an unbiased source…./s
Must have missed that one when I was having a life off of twitter…lol
Pilotshark July 22nd, 2014 at 13:20
” In fact, he’s imposed much harsher sanctions on Russia than it would appear Europe is willing to do.”
I kind of wonder if the Netherlands, or Germany is not waiting until they get their dead back and safe before joining the sanctions band wagon. Seeing how the body’s and such was treated, maybe they don’t want to rock the boat just yet. imho
mea_mark July 22nd, 2014 at 14:37
I’ve been thinking the same thing. It is too early, let’s get what we can get then rock the boat.
Abby Normal July 22nd, 2014 at 10:32
“Short of going to war, what would they have us do?” he asked in a speech.
Reagan’s comment was correct. And Obama is doing everything he can do now. In fact, he’s imposed much harsher sanctions on Russia than it would appear Europe is willing to do.
The fact is, Obama could find a cure for cancer, bring unemployment down to zero, eliminate the national debt and poverty and the tightie righties would still hate him. Such is the irrational mind.
edmeyer_able July 22nd, 2014 at 10:35
Talk about irony…….http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/europe/140721/mh17-europe-eu-european-union-russia
mea_mark July 22nd, 2014 at 11:47
Don’t you mean … http://www.alan.com/2014/07/22/mh17-is-changing-eus-game-on-russia/ Come on show some loyalty. lol :-)
edmeyer_able July 22nd, 2014 at 13:20
Wanted to post from an unbiased source…./s
Must have missed that one when I was having a life off of twitter…lol
Pilotshark July 22nd, 2014 at 13:20
” In fact, he’s imposed much harsher sanctions on Russia than it would appear Europe is willing to do.”
I kind of wonder if the Netherlands, or Germany is not waiting until they get their dead back and safe before joining the sanctions band wagon. Seeing how the body’s and such was treated, maybe they don’t want to rock the boat just yet. imho
mea_mark July 22nd, 2014 at 14:37
I’ve been thinking the same thing. It is too early, let’s get what we can get then rock the boat.
Herb Sarge Phelps July 22nd, 2014 at 13:25
These are people who have an identity problem and thinks flexing American Military Power is their claim to toughness. They don’t realize a good brain will overcome muscles most any day.
Herb Sarge Phelps July 22nd, 2014 at 13:25
These are people who have an identity problem and thinks flexing American Military Power is their claim to toughness. They don’t realize a good brain will overcome muscles most any day.
mmmjv July 22nd, 2014 at 16:29
Cons really do worship St. Ronald the same way they worship Jesus (pay no attention to that turn the other cheek stuff)
viva_democracy July 23rd, 2014 at 14:56
They worship their revisionist Ronnie. The real one couldn’t pass the RWNJ test today.
mmmjv July 22nd, 2014 at 16:29
Cons really do worship St. Ronald the same way they worship Jesus (pay no attention to that turn the other cheek stuff)
runner_runner July 23rd, 2014 at 14:56
They worship their revisionist Ronnie. The real one couldn’t pass the RWNJ test today.
Mark Miller July 22nd, 2014 at 18:37
He is right. What should we do then as well as now?
Mark Miller July 22nd, 2014 at 18:37
He is right. What should we do then as well as now?