Miami Underwater?

Posted by | July 15, 2014 16:41 | Filed under: Contributors Opinion Planet Stuart Shapiro Top Stories


While developing countries have been experiencing the consequences of climate change for a while, the United States is only beginning to feel its effects. One area that is likely to be among the most affected is Miami:

Miami and its surroundings are facing a calamity worthy of the Old Testament. It is an astonishing story. Despite its vast wealth, the city might soon be consumed by the waves, for even if all emissions of carbon dioxide were halted tomorrow – a very unlikely event given their consistent rise over the decades – there is probably enough of the gas in the atmosphere to continue to warm our planet, heat and expand our seas, and melt polar ice. In short, there seems there is nothing that can stop the waters washing over Miami completely.

It a devastating scenario. But what really surprises visitors and observers is the city’s response, or to be more accurate, its almost total lack of reaction. The local population is steadily increasing; land prices continue to surge; and building is progressing at a generous pace.

Maybe this is why Lebron decided to go back to Cleveland?

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Copyright 2014 Liberaland
By: Stuart Shapiro

Stuart is a professor and the Director of the Public Policy
program at the Bloustein School of Planning and Public Policy at Rutgers
University. He teaches economics and cost-benefit analysis and studies
regulation in the United States at both the federal and state levels.
Prior to coming to Rutgers, Stuart worked for five years at the Office
of Management and Budget in Washington under Presidents Clinton and
George W. Bush.

55 responses to Miami Underwater?

  1. Anomaly 100 July 15th, 2014 at 16:47

    “Maybe this is why Lebron decided to go back to Cleveland?”

    He’s smarter than the GOP-led House, apparently.

    • Tommy6860 July 15th, 2014 at 16:59

      Wait until an irreversible amount of damage is caused due to the effects of rising oceans. Yea, right now, the effects are tangible but seemingly innocuous enough to be ignored. But when a nasty storm hits, it will erode the land even farther inland, then those calm seas can encroach even farther inland. Most coastal areas (hell even inland too) are extremely close to being near sea level. Want to see a economic disaster worse than this past recession, watch all of those property values plummet, especially when underwriters will no longer insure real estate, that is too easily prone to natural disasters and persistent flooding, to then where many homes and businesses will simply not be able to survive because they cannot absorb the uninsured losses.

      Want to see the masses finally come to a realization in a nasty way that this is real stuff? Just wait and see when only the uber-rich will be able to absorb those losses and move on, leaving those who made them so to their ignorance.

      • Anomaly 100 July 15th, 2014 at 17:05

        They’ll just blame Obama and die happily.

        • Tommy6860 July 15th, 2014 at 17:14

          Yep it’s amazing that blaming Obama seems to be the catch-all to everything that goes wrong due to ignorance.

          • tiredoftea July 15th, 2014 at 18:44

            No, blaming Obama is the catch all for everything that goes wrong because of Obama!

            • bhil July 15th, 2014 at 19:03

              More guns!

              • tiredoftea July 15th, 2014 at 20:56

                Absolutely! More guns solves all problems.

      • Pilotshark July 15th, 2014 at 17:08

        if i remember correctly the highest point in Florida is just 340 feet above sea level now.

        • Shades July 15th, 2014 at 17:15

          I hear tell there’s a hill somewhere around Orlando.

          • Pilotshark July 15th, 2014 at 18:00

            Britton Hill is the highest natural point in the state of Florida, USA, with a summit elevation of 345 feet (105 meters) above mean sea level.
            think that`s some where in the pan handle.

        • Tommy6860 July 15th, 2014 at 17:29

          True that! Just think what will happen if they begin fracking there en masse. I know fracking has already been shot down around the Everglades, thankfully. But as low lying as Florida is in relation to seal levels, fracking will cause geological gaps deep underground. And since water moves, water erodes, therefor sink-holes of unimaginable magnitudes will happen.

          But, I need to remember that geology is a science, something to which the wingers have a serious aversion.

          • Pilotshark July 15th, 2014 at 17:56

            yep, and think of the sink holes that would created.

          • tiredoftea July 15th, 2014 at 18:43

            They already have more than a few there now.

    • edmeyer_able July 15th, 2014 at 16:59

      But at 6’8″ he could have waited longer.

    • tiredoftea July 15th, 2014 at 18:42

      He’s like, seven feet tall. The rising sea level won’t other him as much as most other people.

      • Anomaly 100 July 15th, 2014 at 18:58

        I know. Are you talking down to me because I’m a lowly woman?

        • tiredoftea July 15th, 2014 at 18:59

          I did use small words to help you get it.

  2. Anomaly 100 July 15th, 2014 at 16:47

    “Maybe this is why Lebron decided to go back to Cleveland?”

    He’s smarter than the GOP-led House, apparently.

    • Tommy6860 July 15th, 2014 at 16:59

      Wait until an irreversible amount of damage is caused due to the effects of rising oceans. Yea, right now, the effects are tangible but seemingly innocuous enough to be ignored. But when a nasty storm hits, it will erode the land even farther inland, then those calm seas can encroach even farther inland. Most coastal areas (hell even inland too) are extremely close to being near sea level. Want to see a economic disaster worse than this past recession, watch all of those property values plummet, especially when underwriters will no longer insure real estate, that is too easily prone to natural disasters and persistent flooding, to then where many homes and businesses will simply not be able to survive because they cannot absorb the uninsured losses.

      Want to see the masses finally come to a realization in a nasty way that this is real stuff? Just wait and see when only the uber-rich will be able to absorb those losses and move on, leaving those who made them so to their ignorance.

      • Anomaly 100 July 15th, 2014 at 17:05

        They’ll just blame Obama and die happily.

        • Tommy6860 July 15th, 2014 at 17:14

          Yep it’s amazing that blaming Obama seems to be the catch-all to everything that goes wrong due to ignorance.

          • tiredoftea July 15th, 2014 at 18:44

            No, blaming Obama is the catch all for everything that goes wrong because of Obama!

            • bhil July 15th, 2014 at 19:03

              More guns!

              • tiredoftea July 15th, 2014 at 20:56

                Absolutely! More guns solves all problems.

      • Pilotshark July 15th, 2014 at 17:08

        if i remember correctly the highest point in Florida is just 340 feet above sea level now.

        • Shades July 15th, 2014 at 17:15

          I hear tell there’s a hill somewhere around Orlando.

          • Pilotshark July 15th, 2014 at 18:00

            Britton Hill is the highest natural point in the state of Florida, USA, with a summit elevation of 345 feet (105 meters) above mean sea level.
            think that`s some where in the pan handle.

        • Tommy6860 July 15th, 2014 at 17:29

          True that! Just think what will happen if they begin fracking there en masse. I know fracking has already been shot down around the Everglades, thankfully. But as low lying as Florida is in relation to sea levels, fracking will cause geological gaps deep underground. And since water moves, water erodes, therefor sink-holes of unimaginable magnitudes will happen.

          But, I need to remember that geology is a science, something to which the wingers have a serious aversion.

          • Pilotshark July 15th, 2014 at 17:56

            yep, and think of the sink holes that would created.

          • tiredoftea July 15th, 2014 at 18:43

            They already have more than a few there now.

    • edmeyer_able July 15th, 2014 at 16:59

      But at 6’8″ he could have waited longer.

    • tiredoftea July 15th, 2014 at 18:42

      He’s like, seven feet tall. The rising sea level won’t bother him as much as most other people.

      • Anomaly 100 July 15th, 2014 at 18:58

        I know. Are you talking down to me because I’m a lowly woman?

        • tiredoftea July 15th, 2014 at 18:59

          I did use small words to help you get it.

  3. bhil July 15th, 2014 at 19:01

    God indeed has a sense of humor!

  4. bhil July 15th, 2014 at 19:01

    God indeed has a sense of humor!

  5. Roctuna July 15th, 2014 at 19:22

    That’s not rising sea, that’s freedom water.

    • Shades July 15th, 2014 at 19:27

      And it will drown blue Miami. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.

    • Dwendt44 July 15th, 2014 at 21:26

      The sea level isn’t rising, the land is sinking.
      So says a climate change denier.

      • Robert M. Snyder July 15th, 2014 at 23:52

        I don’t know about Miami, but scientists estimate that New Orleans is sinking at a rate of about 7 millimeters per year, which is roughly three times the estimated rate of sea level rise (2-3 mm/yr).

      • Drinkingthekoolaide July 16th, 2014 at 20:29

        How long till Washington DC is under water?
        Can we speed up the process?

  6. Roctuna July 15th, 2014 at 19:22

    That’s not rising sea, that’s freedom water.

    • Shades July 15th, 2014 at 19:27

      And it will drown blue Miami. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.

    • Dwendt44 July 15th, 2014 at 21:26

      The sea level isn’t rising, the land is sinking.
      So says a climate change denier.

      • Robert M. Snyder July 15th, 2014 at 23:52

        I don’t know about Miami, but scientists estimate that New Orleans is sinking at a rate of about 7 millimeters per year, which is roughly three times the estimated rate of sea level rise (2-3 mm/yr).

      • Drinkingthekoolaide July 16th, 2014 at 20:29

        How long till Washington DC is under water?
        Can we speed up the process?

  7. fancypants July 16th, 2014 at 01:17

    If you have a mansion you can move to the 2nd floor when the water gets too high

  8. fancypants July 16th, 2014 at 01:17

    If you have a mansion you can move to the 2nd floor when the water gets too high

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  10. labman57 July 17th, 2014 at 10:14

    Poignant irony — most of the folks who poo-poo global climate change and its causal relationship with disappearing glaciers and polar ice, severe storm patterns, oceanic acidification, severe droughts and associated massive wildfires, and rising sea level … are the very same people who believe in a literal interpretation of the Great Flood as described in the Bible.

  11. labman57 July 17th, 2014 at 10:14

    Poignant irony — most of the folks who poo-poo global climate change and its causal relationship with disappearing glaciers and polar ice, severe storm patterns, oceanic acidification, severe droughts and associated massive wildfires, and rising sea level … are the very same people who believe in a literal interpretation of the Great Flood as described in the Bible.

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