Absolutely Nothing: A Veteran’s Savage Indictment Of The Iraq War
Tragically, all we’ve fought for in Iraq, all that 4,500 American lives were shed to gain, is on the cusp, potentially, of vanishing. – Mitt Romney, “Ideas Summit,” 6/13/2014 All we fought for in Iraq. All we fought for in Iraq is on the cusp…
By: dave-dr-gonzo
David Hirsch, a.k.a. Dave "Doctor" Gonzo*, is a renegade record producer, video producer, writer, reformed corporate shill, and still-registered lobbyist for non-one-percenter performing artists and musicians. He lives in a heavily fortified compound in one of Manhattan's less trendy neighborhoods.
* Hirsch is the third person to use the pseudonym, a not-so-veiled tribute to journalist and author Hunter S. Thompson, with the permission of his predecessors Gene Gaudette of American Politics Journal (currently webmaster and chief bottlewasher at Liberaland) and Stephen Meese at Smashmouth Politics.
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PatriotNews June 15th, 2014 at 14:00
Whoever wrote this doesn’t seem to know much about the intelligence going into Iraq, especially for someone who claims to have been in military intelligence. He is rather ignorant of the reasons for going to war in Iraq, which is again surprising since he claims he was there. You would think he would take an interest in finding out why we were invading Iraq. While I’m sure there are democrats in the military, usually they are not like most civilian democrats, that is to say, America hating, military hating racists. This guy is the exception.
mea_mark June 15th, 2014 at 14:04
If you know so much why don’t you enlighten us. Or are you just trolling?
arc99 June 15th, 2014 at 14:34
you are clearly quite confused. first of all, the only America-haters I know of are the Cliven Bundy apologists who hate this country so much, they will pick up a gun and threaten violence against sworn law enforcement officers. your clear hatred for millions of your fellow citizens is also indicative of where the hatred in this country originates.
Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Bob Kerrey, Jimmy Carter, Charlie Rangel, Max Cleland, the founder of leftist website Daily Kos Markos Moulitsas, Tammy Duckworth are just a few prominent Democrats who served with distinction.
No one can control how things “seem” to you. Your misconceptions are your problem and no one else’s. The author of the article has fully disclosed his name and background. If you have objective information to support your rants about his background, then share it.
Otherwise, you are just another low information right wing apologist who actually believed Iraq would cost no more than $50billion and we would be welcomed as liberators.
William June 15th, 2014 at 19:40
OK Genius. Please enlighten us all and explain just why we went into Iraq.
We’re waiting. (BTW, this Democrat veteran actually is retired military).
Further, the author is a retired Warrant Officer, Naval Intelligence. That means he walks the walk, IE he worked his way up from Enlisted.
granpa.usthai June 15th, 2014 at 14:19
BS has already been floated in it’s lead balloon out over the Atlantic. Immediate need to jump back in with both feet and plenty of time to respond to questions AFTER we’re neck deep in blood , AGAIN:
1. these people (terrorist) are from all over the world. They have passports, after 2-3 years of fighting they’ll be coming back home to Europe, to USA! – MUST JUMP BACK IN WITH BOTH FEET NOW, RIGHT NOW! (otherwise, John Deere might begin to suspect those who actually put their life on the line in an attempt to free him and other POW’s in the North have up and turned YELLER!).
take a breath and think: they have passports, yes. They can return to the country that issued them the passports, yes. DOES IT REALLY MATTER!?! -how does this work: we go into Iraq (AGAIN) – they come back home and -what? – We don’t go back into Iraq -they come back home and-what? If their passport shows they were in Iraq during this time period and we DON’T go back in, we can’t legally keep tabs on them, BUTT- if we do go back in, we can legally keep tabs on them? HTF does that work?
2. THIS JEOPARDIZES WORLD OIL SUPPLIES!!!
take a breath and think: those who oppose the despot Maliki who was placed into power by the coalition of the willing want to overthrow him so they can seal off the Iraqi Oil? No reason to sell it, as they want to go out into the desert and starve to death with their families? THIS is their goal? OH, but they will sell the oil to OUR enemies? HTF does that work? – WORLD OIL SUPPLY- other side buys oil from Iraq, so the US and Europe won’t be buying oil from OUR (allies) – which is also part of WORLD OIL SUPPLY?
GOPs CONNED those who desires are to live in 24/7 FEAR.
9/11
WMD’s (don’t think about it taking a helicopter the size of Connecticut just to be able to carry enough fuel to transport a nuclear bomb to the US from Iraq)
TERRORIST COLOR CODED 24/7.
and like most slick salesmen hocking off a BS product…don’t take time to think about anything, just sign this contract here, NOW, RIGHT NOW –
Oh, and the future terrorist attacks that WILL happen in the USA (not counting domestic terrorist attacks that are actually KILLING US at 10X, 100X, …UKN X)
well, they could have been prevented had we just ‘fought them over there’ -right?
Explain that to me once again, HTF does that work? – could you maybe tell me which part of INS (now HOMELAND SECURITY) is issuing terrorist attack permits to foreign terrorist who wish to attack US here? That’s definitely one GOP agency that needs to be questioned before an Open congressional hearing!
granpa.usthai June 15th, 2014 at 14:19
BS has already been floated in it’s lead balloon out over the Atlantic. Immediate need to jump back in with both feet and plenty of time to respond to questions AFTER we’re neck deep in blood , AGAIN:
1. these people (terrorist) are from all over the world. They have passports, after 2-3 years of fighting they’ll be coming back home to Europe, to USA! – MUST JUMP BACK IN WITH BOTH FEET NOW, RIGHT NOW! (otherwise, John Deere might begin to suspect those who actually put their life on the line in an attempt to free him and other POW’s in the North have up and turned YELLER!).
take a breath and think: they have passports, yes. They can return to the country that issued them the passports, yes. DOES IT REALLY MATTER!?! -how does this work: we go into Iraq (AGAIN) – they come back home and -what? – We don’t go back into Iraq -they come back home and-what? If their passport shows they were in Iraq during this time period and we DON’T go back in, we can’t legally keep tabs on them, BUTT- if we do go back in, we can legally keep tabs on them? HTF does that work?
2. THIS JEOPARDIZES WORLD OIL SUPPLIES!!!
take a breath and think: those who oppose the despot Maliki who was placed into power by the coalition of the willing want to overthrow him so they can seal off the Iraqi Oil? No reason to sell it, as they want to go out into the desert and starve to death with their families? THIS is their goal? OH, but they will sell the oil to OUR enemies? HTF does that work? – WORLD OIL SUPPLY- other side buys oil from Iraq, so the US and Europe won’t be buying oil from OUR (allies) – which is also part of WORLD OIL SUPPLY?
GOPs CONNED those who desires are to live in 24/7 FEAR.
9/11
WMD’s (don’t think about it taking a helicopter the size of Connecticut just to be able to carry enough fuel to transport a nuclear bomb to the US from Iraq)
TERRORIST COLOR CODED 24/7.
and like most slick salesmen hocking off a BS product…don’t take time to think about anything, just sign this contract here, NOW, RIGHT NOW –
Oh, and the future terrorist attacks that WILL happen in the USA (not counting domestic terrorist attacks that are actually KILLING US at 10X, 100X, …UKN X)
well, they could have been prevented had we just ‘fought them over there’ -right?
Explain that to me once again, HTF does that work? – could you maybe tell me which part of INS (now HOMELAND SECURITY) is issuing terrorist attack permits to foreign terrorist who wish to attack US here? That’s definitely one GOP agency that needs to be questioned before an Open congressional hearing!
granpa.usthai June 15th, 2014 at 15:11
don’t fergit to mention Israel and Palestine by name. The RWNJ Christian Extremist get really upset when people fergit to mention Israel and Palestine by name, even if the opposition to Maliki is apparently a ‘good thing’ for their security. Let’s see, mentioned in the mid-east, countries whose security are directly threatened by the despot Maliki being deposed; Iraq, Iran, Syria, Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and….Afghanistan (IF WE DON’T KEEP ENOUGH TROOPS IN COUNTRY TO MAKE POTUS OBAMA out to be a liar). Hummmm, wondering why there was no outpouring of ‘GOD’s WRATH’ for not mentioning Israel and Palestine? -! – ???
granpa.usthai June 15th, 2014 at 15:11
don’t fergit to mention Israel and Palestine by name. The RWNJ Christian Extremist get really upset when people fergit to mention Israel and Palestine by name, even if the opposition to Maliki is apparently a ‘good thing’ for their security. Let’s see, mentioned in the mid-east, countries whose security are directly threatened by the despot Maliki being deposed; Iraq, Iran, Syria, Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and….Afghanistan (IF WE DON’T KEEP ENOUGH TROOPS IN COUNTRY TO MAKE POTUS OBAMA out to be a liar). Hummmm, wondering why there was no outpouring of ‘GOD’s WRATH’ for not mentioning Israel and Palestine? -! – ???
acturbo June 17th, 2014 at 00:58
Follow the money …. it’s not about grudges, it’s about money being used for ultimate power and control …. the international banksters want total control over the finances of ALL nations. Period. Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi had moved off the banksters “petro dollar” to a new, gold standard. This circumvented the international banksters control over them, so Saddam and Muammar were invaded along with the gold-standard supporting countries. The reasons conjured up for the wars are designed solely to make most of the public go along with the freedom charade. So many people waste so much time and energy trying to explain geo politics as if it were a giant high school popularity soap opera. There is no emotion here. It’s all about a fight to control the planet. Nothing less. Barrack, and all the other presidents ultimate have to answer to the banks …. and the Federal Reserve is a PRIVATE bank … and as it is, the government (the Administration to be more precise) cannot run without BORROWING money from these banksters. The banksters, in turn, wield total control over the politicians that are “voted” into office. They do what they are told, and spin bullshit story after bullshit story (sometimes backed by false flag operations to scare people into believing them). Just follow the money and you will have your answers.
acturbo June 17th, 2014 at 00:58
Follow the money …. it’s not about grudges, it’s about money being used for ultimate power and control …. the international banksters want total control over the finances of ALL nations. Period. Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi had moved off the banksters “petro dollar” to a new, gold standard. This circumvented the international banksters control over them, so Saddam and Muammar were invaded along with the gold-standard supporting countries. The reasons conjured up for the wars are designed solely to make most of the public go along with the freedom charade. So many people waste so much time and energy trying to explain geo politics as if it were a giant high school popularity soap opera. There is no emotion here. It’s all about a fight to control the planet. Nothing less. Barrack, and all the other presidents ultimate have to answer to the banks …. and the Federal Reserve is a PRIVATE bank … and as it is, the government (the Administration to be more precise) cannot run without BORROWING money from these banksters. The banksters, in turn, wield total control over the politicians that are “voted” into office. They do what they are told, and spin bullshit story after bullshit story (sometimes backed by false flag operations to scare people into believing them). Just follow the money and you will have your answers.
Sam_Jennings June 17th, 2014 at 21:00
Dear Alan: Even if your ideas are valid, I’m not going to link your opinions when they are expressed with so much profanity. That really restricts the range of readership you are likely to receive, because I doubt I’m alone in this rationale.
arc99 June 18th, 2014 at 18:53
Alan did not write the article.
I think it is part of the problem where cuss words are more offensive to people than thousands of soldiers and civilians dying for no reason.
Sam_Jennings June 17th, 2014 at 21:00
Dear Alan: Even if your ideas are valid, I’m not going to link your opinions when they are expressed with so much profanity. That really restricts the range of readership you are likely to receive, because I doubt I’m alone in this rationale.
arc99 June 18th, 2014 at 18:53
Alan did not write the article.
I think it is part of the problem where cuss words are more offensive to people than thousands of soldiers and civilians dying for no reason.
Last Hussar June 18th, 2014 at 18:12
I’m disgusted that you stole this post, stole intellectual property.
http://www.stonekettle.com/2014/06/absolutely-nothing.html#comment-form
mea_mark June 18th, 2014 at 18:29
It is a “repost” article … http://www.repost.us/about/ nothing was stolen.
Last Hussar June 18th, 2014 at 18:12
I’m disgusted that you stole this post, stole intellectual property.
http://www.stonekettle.com/2014/06/absolutely-nothing.html#comment-form
mea_mark June 18th, 2014 at 18:29
It is a “repost” article … http://www.repost.us/about/ nothing was stolen.